Re: Is "SeaMonkey 2.40" the last version, or will there be further updates?

[Gérard]

On 11/17/2016 08:16 AM, pthf1n...@gmail.com wrote:

On Tuesday, June 21, 2016 at 5:18:49 PM UTC-6, pthf...@gmail.com wrote:

SeaMonkey continues to have some issues,

for example, often when I hit the browser's Back button to go to previous 
webpage, nothing happens. Very frequent.

Is 2.40 the final version, or will there be future updates?

I really don't want to switch to another browser, but it definitely appears 
obvious that Seamonkey doesn't get updated much at all anymore.

Any word on this?
thank you.

long time Mozilla/Seamonkey user, K.


could anyone explain in plain english, what is happening with Seamonkey for 
windows 7 ? Please?

Is it really time to head over to Firefox and just learn how to use it and 
customize it, or is there any hope that seamonkey will be an ongoing project 
anything like it used to be?

And what links if any are currently available if we want to stay with seamonkey 
and try out current builds at our own peril. Not only that, but what version or 
build to look for in the links?

My impression is that the microsoft November update rollup makes seamonkey 2.46 
for windows 7 x32 crash.

thank you to anyone who can shed more light on this.
long time Mozilla/Seamonkey user, K.



do you use windhoos 7 version 2
then you should upgrade to version3
(then you have to have a microsoft licens)

sincerely,

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User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:51.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/51.0 
SeaMonkey/2.48a2

Build identifier: 20160923081035

To code the impossible code,This is my quest --
To bring up a virgin machine,   To debug that code,
To pop out of endless recursion,No matter how hopeless,
To grok what appears on the screen, No matter the load,
To write those routines
To right the unrightable bug,   Without question or pause,
To endlessly twiddle and thrash,To be willing to hack FORTRAN IV
To mount the unmountable magtape,   For a heavenly cause.
To stop the unstoppable crash!  And I know if I'll only be true
To this glorious quest,
And the queue will be better for this,  That my code will run CUSPy and calm,
That one man, scorned and   When it's put to the test.
destined to lose,
Still strove with his last allocation
To scrap the unscrappable kludge!
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Re: Is "SeaMonkey 2.40" the last version, or will there be further updates?

[pthf1nd3r]

On Tuesday, June 21, 2016 at 5:18:49 PM UTC-6, pthf...@gmail.com wrote:
> SeaMonkey continues to have some issues,
>  
> for example, often when I hit the browser's Back button to go to previous 
> webpage, nothing happens. Very frequent.
> 
> Is 2.40 the final version, or will there be future updates?
> 
> I really don't want to switch to another browser, but it definitely appears 
> obvious that Seamonkey doesn't get updated much at all anymore.
> 
> Any word on this?
> thank you.
> 
> long time Mozilla/Seamonkey user, K.

could anyone explain in plain english, what is happening with Seamonkey for 
windows 7 ? Please?

Is it really time to head over to Firefox and just learn how to use it and 
customize it, or is there any hope that seamonkey will be an ongoing project 
anything like it used to be? 

And what links if any are currently available if we want to stay with seamonkey 
and try out current builds at our own peril. Not only that, but what version or 
build to look for in the links? 

My impression is that the microsoft November update rollup makes seamonkey 2.46 
for windows 7 x32 crash.

thank you to anyone who can shed more light on this.
long time Mozilla/Seamonkey user, K.
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How long will SeaMonkey continue to support Mac OS X 10.6-10.8?

[JD]

I apologize if this is the wrong place to post this, but I'm not sure
exactly where to ask this question.  We've been having a discussion on
another site about the future of web browsers on OS X 10.6-10.8 since
Firefox is dropping support.  After Firefox ESR 45 support ends, SeaMonkey
will be the only browser (that I know of) that still supports 10.6-10.8.

Does SeaMonkey plan to end support for Mac OS 10.6-10.8 in the foreseeable
future?  Also, if this is not the place to ask this question, will someone
point me to the right place to ask it?

Thanks.
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Re: Allow Popups From A Site?

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Sanpam wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 11/16/2016 05:55 PM, Sanpam wrote:

Sanpam wrote:

I'm trying to access this login page, and all I get is a blue
screen. It
works with IE, and a window appears in the middle to type in your info.
It may have to do with popups, but I can't figure out how to enable
them
on this site. When I click "allow popups on this site" from the menu
bar, it takes me to the cookies manager page. I don't see anything
related to popups there. Can anyone help?
https://sleepiq.sleepnumber.com/#/signin


I figured out how to allow popups by right-clicking on the page, but I
still don't get the login box to enter my info.



The login box comes right up for me.

Restart SeaMonkey in safe mode, and test the site. Click Help > Restart
with Add-ons Disabled.



It works with no addons. Do you know which one might be causing it?


1 Enable one and try again.
2 If it fails, you've got the culprit.
3 If not, goto line 1.

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Re: SM2.46 default search engine problem

[rodney]

EE wrote:

cmcadams wrote:

I've just installed SM2.46, and discovered that the engine pick list in

Edit > Preferences > Browser > Internet Search

isn't working. I got my choice by deleting all the alternatives, which
becomes the new unchangeable option even if you then Restore Defaults.

Not a killer, because it can be gotten around, but still annoying.

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:49.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/49.0 SeaMonkey/2.46


My search bar is working.  I can change the search engine to whatever is
listed in there, and I put my own preferred engines in there.
I am using SM 2.46.  I use Mac OS, so is this problem just a Windows
problem?

I drug search from the customize toolbar to the navigation toolbar a 
long time ago.  And I can select from the search engines I have listed 
there.  Although I haven't tried adding any new ones.  Windows 7 x64 
SeaMonkey 2.46 build 4

Rodney
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Re: Allow Popups From A Site?

[Sanpam]

WaltS48 wrote:

On 11/16/2016 05:55 PM, Sanpam wrote:

Sanpam wrote:

I'm trying to access this login page, and all I get is a blue screen. It
works with IE, and a window appears in the middle to type in your info.
It may have to do with popups, but I can't figure out how to enable them
on this site. When I click "allow popups on this site" from the menu
bar, it takes me to the cookies manager page. I don't see anything
related to popups there. Can anyone help?
https://sleepiq.sleepnumber.com/#/signin


I figured out how to allow popups by right-clicking on the page, but I
still don't get the login box to enter my info.



The login box comes right up for me.

Restart SeaMonkey in safe mode, and test the site. Click Help > Restart
with Add-ons Disabled.



It works with no addons. Do you know which one might be causing it?
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Re: downloaded SM2.49a1

[Alexander Yudenitsch]

J. Weaver Jr. wrote, on 15 nov 16 03:22:


Ed Mullen wrote:

Composer should be dropped.  It is decades out of touch with HTML and
CSS standards.  It produces totally crappy code that won't validate.

Kill Composer.  It serves no useful valid purpose.  Rip the code out and
slim down SeaMonkey.


Hear hear! It's a large bundle of code with no modern purpose.  -JW


I don't much care whether a 'purpose' is "modern" or not, but I do 
occasionally use Composer to edit web pages for printing optimization: 
Taking out not-wanted items, doing a little rearrangement and editing, 
so a printout will be optimized for the person/purpose it's meant for.


Even the 'print' function isn't working, but 'print preview' is, and it 
does allow printing after that.


Of course, I never 'save' the edited pages, because after the printout 
my 'purpose' is accomplished...  and I don't know any other way to 
achieve it without Composer!  So, I hope it remains as a part of SM for 
a long time.


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Thanks beforehand for your attention, and I hope to hear from you soon.

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Re: Allow Popups From A Site?

[WaltS48]

On 11/16/2016 05:55 PM, Sanpam wrote:

Sanpam wrote:

I'm trying to access this login page, and all I get is a blue screen. It
works with IE, and a window appears in the middle to type in your info.
It may have to do with popups, but I can't figure out how to enable them
on this site. When I click "allow popups on this site" from the menu
bar, it takes me to the cookies manager page. I don't see anything
related to popups there. Can anyone help?
https://sleepiq.sleepnumber.com/#/signin


I figured out how to allow popups by right-clicking on the page, but I 
still don't get the login box to enter my info.



The login box comes right up for me.

Restart SeaMonkey in safe mode, and test the site. Click Help > Restart 
with Add-ons Disabled.



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Re: Allow Popups From A Site?

[Sanpam]

Sanpam wrote:

I'm trying to access this login page, and all I get is a blue screen. It
works with IE, and a window appears in the middle to type in your info.
It may have to do with popups, but I can't figure out how to enable them
on this site. When I click "allow popups on this site" from the menu
bar, it takes me to the cookies manager page. I don't see anything
related to popups there. Can anyone help?
https://sleepiq.sleepnumber.com/#/signin


I figured out how to allow popups by right-clicking on the page, but I 
still don't get the login box to enter my info.

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Allow Popups From A Site?

[Sanpam]

I'm trying to access this login page, and all I get is a blue screen. It 
works with IE, and a window appears in the middle to type in your info.
It may have to do with popups, but I can't figure out how to enable them 
on this site. When I click "allow popups on this site" from the menu 
bar, it takes me to the cookies manager page. I don't see anything 
related to popups there. Can anyone help?

https://sleepiq.sleepnumber.com/#/signin
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Re: SM2.46 default search engine problem

[Gérard]

On 11/16/2016 08:58 PM, EE wrote:

cmcadams wrote:

I've just installed SM2.46, and discovered that the engine pick list in

Edit > Preferences > Browser > Internet Search

isn't working. I got my choice by deleting all the alternatives, which
becomes the new unchangeable option even if you then Restore Defaults.

Not a killer, because it can be gotten around, but still annoying.

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:49.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/49.0 SeaMonkey/2.46


My search bar is working.  I can change the search engine to whatever is listed
in there, and I put my own preferred engines in there.
I am using SM 2.46.  I use Mac OS, so is this problem just a Windows problem?



no problems here

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http://ciudadpatricia.com
https://facebook.com/gerardjan.vinkesteijn.7

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:51.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/51.0 
SeaMonkey/2.48a2

Build identifier: 20160923081035

To code the impossible code,This is my quest --
To bring up a virgin machine,   To debug that code,
To pop out of endless recursion,No matter how hopeless,
To grok what appears on the screen, No matter the load,
To write those routines
To right the unrightable bug,   Without question or pause,
To endlessly twiddle and thrash,To be willing to hack FORTRAN IV
To mount the unmountable magtape,   For a heavenly cause.
To stop the unstoppable crash!  And I know if I'll only be true
To this glorious quest,
And the queue will be better for this,  That my code will run CUSPy and calm,
That one man, scorned and   When it's put to the test.
destined to lose,
Still strove with his last allocation
To scrap the unscrappable kludge!
  -- To "The Impossible Dream", from Man of La Mancha
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Re: SM2.46 default search engine problem

[EE]

cmcadams wrote:

I've just installed SM2.46, and discovered that the engine pick list in

Edit > Preferences > Browser > Internet Search

isn't working. I got my choice by deleting all the alternatives, which
becomes the new unchangeable option even if you then Restore Defaults.

Not a killer, because it can be gotten around, but still annoying.

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:49.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/49.0 SeaMonkey/2.46


My search bar is working.  I can change the search engine to whatever is 
listed in there, and I put my own preferred engines in there.
I am using SM 2.46.  I use Mac OS, so is this problem just a Windows 
problem?


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(no subject)

[Gérard]

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User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:51.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/51.0 
SeaMonkey/2.48a2

Build identifier: 20160923081035

To code the impossible code,This is my quest --
To bring up a virgin machine,   To debug that code,
To pop out of endless recursion,No matter how hopeless,
To grok what appears on the screen, No matter the load,
To write those routines
To right the unrightable bug,   Without question or pause,
To endlessly twiddle and thrash,To be willing to hack FORTRAN IV
To mount the unmountable magtape,   For a heavenly cause.
To stop the unstoppable crash!  And I know if I'll only be true
To this glorious quest,
And the queue will be better for this,  That my code will run CUSPy and calm,
That one man, scorned and   When it's put to the test.
destined to lose,
Still strove with his last allocation
To scrap the unscrappable kludge!
  -- To "The Impossible Dream", from Man of La Mancha
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Re: SM2.46 default search engine problem

[Frank-Rainer Grahl]

Its a problem with workarounds. Might need some time until fully fixed.

FRG

cmcadams wrote:

Good enough, thanks.

A known problem is almost the same as no problem, right? :)


Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

This is a known problem and tracked in Bug 1265881:

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1265881

FRG

W3BNR wrote:

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[Gérard]

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User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:51.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/51.0 
SeaMonkey/2.48a2

Build identifier: 20160923081035

To code the impossible code,This is my quest --
To bring up a virgin machine,   To debug that code,
To pop out of endless recursion,No matter how hopeless,
To grok what appears on the screen, No matter the load,
To write those routines
To right the unrightable bug,   Without question or pause,
To endlessly twiddle and thrash,To be willing to hack FORTRAN IV
To mount the unmountable magtape,   For a heavenly cause.
To stop the unstoppable crash!  And I know if I'll only be true
To this glorious quest,
And the queue will be better for this,  That my code will run CUSPy and calm,
That one man, scorned and   When it's put to the test.
destined to lose,
Still strove with his last allocation
To scrap the unscrappable kludge!
  -- To "The Impossible Dream", from Man of La Mancha
[gérard@gershwin] $
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Re: SM2.46 default search engine problem

[cmcadams]

Good enough, thanks.

A known problem is almost the same as no problem, right? :)


Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

This is a known problem and tracked in Bug 1265881:

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1265881

FRG

W3BNR wrote:

On 11/15/16 11:35 PM, cmcadams wrote:

I've just installed SM2.46, and discovered that the engine pick list in

Edit > Preferences > Browser > Internet Search

isn't working. I got my choice by deleting all the alternatives, which becomes
the new unchangeable option even if you then Restore Defaults.

Not a killer, because it can be gotten around, but still annoying.

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:49.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/49.0
SeaMonkey/2.46


WFM.  Can't reproduce here
User Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:49.0) Gecko/20100101
SeaMonkey/2.46





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Re: Thanks to All

[A Williams]

David E. Ross wrote:

On 11/15/2016 1:17 PM, sean wrote:

Robert Drury wrote:

Just wanted to say I've been using Seamonkey, or its predecessors, for
25 years and intend to keep using it.  Thanks, everyone.


Agreed! While I was sorta like Michael Dell's Mom early on in wondering
why anybody would even want a computer at home. Once we went on line in
96 I've been using Netscape/Mozilla/Seamonkey derived products ever
since.I tolerated the FirePhoenix/Bird/Fox & Thunderbird split for a few
years... but eventually returned to Seamonkey...

just elated how nice 2.49a1 is so far...

sean



At the beginning of 1996, I started using Netscape.  Then I went to
Mozilla Suite.  I stayed with Mozilla Suite -- stuck in an aging version
-- when Firefox came along because I did not like the Firefox user
interfacep; I still do not like it.  With the initial release of
SeaMonkey, I finally updated to it.

I see much happening to Firefox that I do not like.  That includes the
blocking of NPAPI plugins, extensions that are not Webextensions, and
many themes.  Overall, Mozilla is following a path to make Firefox a
clone of Chrome.  If I wanted Chome, I would download and install it.



Pretty much the same story here.
I may have experimented with Netscape 3 but only really got going when 
version 4 came out.  This was initially under whatever Windows version 
was around at the time, then - when Netscape 4.x was ported to Linux - 
on both platforms.  When I use Firefox at all, it is the ESR version.

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Re: downloaded SM2.49a1

[Frank-Rainer Grahl]

2.49a2 crashes when opening certain links and the autocomplete feature 
is broken. Sessionrestore also has a problem with session storage, There 
may be other errors too so please do not install it one someones PC who 
is not accustomed to be a beta tester. Should be fixed when it hits Beta 
but currently stick with 2.47 or 2.48. I am sure Adrian will update the 
release 2.47 builds too soon.


FRG

sean wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Ed Mullen wrote:


On 11/14/2016 at 3:19 PM, Richard Owlett's prodigious digits fired
off:


I do understand there are extensive changes behind the scene. They
probably improve my experience without me noticing it.


Umm, how could your experience improve if you don't notice it?


There are lots of situations where people don't consciously notice 
improved experiences, but you can detect and measure it if you poll 
them before and after. There's a big gray area between the kind of 
dramatic improvement that gets your attention on the one hand and no 
change on the other hand.




2.49a1 is dramatically faster than cludgey old 2.40... vastly so...

I really wanted to install it or at least 2.48 on the laptop i'm 
repairing for my mother, but i couldn't figure out how to get an icon to 
appear in menus in a 32 bit linux environment...


sean


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Re: SM2.46 default search engine problem

[Frank-Rainer Grahl]

This is a known problem and tracked in Bug 1265881:

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1265881

FRG

W3BNR wrote:

On 11/15/16 11:35 PM, cmcadams wrote:

I've just installed SM2.46, and discovered that the engine pick list in

Edit > Preferences > Browser > Internet Search

isn't working. I got my choice by deleting all the alternatives, which becomes
the new unchangeable option even if you then Restore Defaults.

Not a killer, because it can be gotten around, but still annoying.

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:49.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/49.0
SeaMonkey/2.46


WFM.  Can't reproduce here
User Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:49.0) Gecko/20100101
SeaMonkey/2.46



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Re: focus keeps switching

[Jonathan N. Little]

Lee wrote:
> On 11/15/16, Paul B. Gallagher  wrote:
>> Rick Merrill wrote:
>>
>>> This is slowly but surely driving me crazy: the focus shifts almost
>>> randomly.
>>> For example, I press reply, compose window opens, I type a key and
>>> whammo the original window comes to the top!
>>
>> Try keeping the cursor away from the taskbar, that helps. Park it
>> somewhere else when you're not using it.
>>
>> But if you accidentally mouse over one of the application tiles, Windows
>> will show it to you, and if you keep typing it'll decide that's what you
>> wanted. Too "smart" for your own good.
> 
> I remember seeing a "focus follows mouse" setting that I can't find
> now :(   But it sounds like what's being described in this thread..
> move the mouse to a different window and that window gets the focus.
> 
> Lee
> 

WinKey + X >Control Panel > Ease of Access Center > Make mouse easier to
use > Make it easier to manage windows

Uncheck "Activate a window by hovering over it with the mouse"

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Re: focus keeps switching

[Lee]

On 11/15/16, Paul B. Gallagher  wrote:
> Rick Merrill wrote:
>
>> This is slowly but surely driving me crazy: the focus shifts almost
>> randomly.
>> For example, I press reply, compose window opens, I type a key and
>> whammo the original window comes to the top!
>
> Try keeping the cursor away from the taskbar, that helps. Park it
> somewhere else when you're not using it.
>
> But if you accidentally mouse over one of the application tiles, Windows
> will show it to you, and if you keep typing it'll decide that's what you
> wanted. Too "smart" for your own good.

I remember seeing a "focus follows mouse" setting that I can't find
now :(   But it sounds like what's being described in this thread..
move the mouse to a different window and that window gets the focus.

Lee
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Re: SM2.46 default search engine problem

[W3BNR]

On 11/15/16 11:35 PM, cmcadams wrote:
> I've just installed SM2.46, and discovered that the engine pick list in
>
> Edit > Preferences > Browser > Internet Search
>
> isn't working. I got my choice by deleting all the alternatives, which becomes
> the new unchangeable option even if you then Restore Defaults.
>
> Not a killer, because it can be gotten around, but still annoying.
>
> User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:49.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/49.0
> SeaMonkey/2.46

WFM.  Can't reproduce here
User Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:49.0) Gecko/20100101
SeaMonkey/2.46

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