Re: Resurrecting an old theme "Mostly Crystal - Firefox Theme"

[D. K. Kraft]

With patience akin to a cat's, D. K. Kraft wrote on 1/7/2017 2:57 PM:

[previous post snipped for brevity]


I've been using Mostly Crystal for practically all of my Seamonkey
versions, and it still works with 2.38 with only a few small graphics not
showing up, mainly close buttons for certain dialog boxes. I can still
close these boxes by clicking where the graphic should be, so it's just a
matter of the graphic not displaying.

It appears to me, from the above, that this theme meets the requirements
for another developer to take up the project--I don't believe the theme has
worked on *Firefox* for years. Note that Seamonkey is not specifically
referenced in the license text.

I would be overjoyed to see someone take up the Mostly Crystal project for
Seamonkey. Alas, my employment and other commitments preclude investment
of my own time into this undertaking. I'd be happy and able, however, to
share any tips or tweaks that I've made for my own use over the years to
whomever decides to take it up.



Addendum:  I just updated to SeaMonkey 2.46 with my current profile, and all
is working as expected with the Mostly Crystal theme.  BTW, the theme version
I have on-board is 2.14.

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Re: Saving drafts get bigger each time according to its size in my SM v2.46's "Mail & Newsgroups"

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Jonathan N. Little wrote:


Daniel wrote:

and on these hot Summer evenings


Where are you, down under? As I type this my county has it's knickers
in a twist over the 6-7 inches of snow that falling ;-)


And this ol' Yankee has hi's pantie's in a bunch over that damn grocer's 
apo'strophe.


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Re: SM 2.46 hangs trying to print

[Frank-Rainer Grahl]

Thanks for checking it out.

> new settings that work (but look wrong)
> print_paper_height, -1.00
> print_paper_width, -1.00

These are not used/set/reset in SeaMonkey code. -1 sounds like some sort of 
default and is also used in Firefox.


Seems the print dialog and functions got a major update in Gecko 49 which 
corresponds to 2.46:


https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1189846

Looks like we need to monitor this and look closer if it happens after the 
next update again.


FRG

Gerry Hickman wrote:

Gerry Hickman wrote:

The bug report is exactly the same issue as I am seeing.


I tested removing certain print related settings from prefs.js (about:config), 
and I'm now able to switch between a browser that is able to print, and a 
browser that hangs.


I found two categories of "print" settings in prefs.js
1. "print_printer", {printer name} and "printer_{printer name}", {value}
2. "print.print_printer", {printer name} and "print.printer_{printer name}", 
{value}


Category #1 (without the 'dot') seem to be irrelevant - I deleted all of them, 
and printing was still broken.


Category #2 (with the 'dot') are the settings that were causing the issue. If 
I delete all of them, I lose the old page setup parameters, but I'm able to 
print, and any new page setup parameters will be written back to prefs.js.


I also tried to narrow down the specific settings in category #2 that were 
causing the issue, and it looks like the "print_paper_{setting}" and related 
settings.


old settings that cause hang (but look correct)
print_paper_height, 11.00
print_paper_width, 8.50

new settings that work (but look wrong)
print_paper_height, -1.00
print_paper_width, -1.00

So there's an easy workaround for the technical user, but this is not a great 
upgrade experience for a non-technical user. Either way, a setting in prefs.js 
should not be able to cause a browser hang, it suggests parsing (and 
validation) of parameters is not as it should be. I'm fairly sure this must be 
related to recent changes to the SeaMonkey code, as it was always stable in 
the past.





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Re: Resurrecting an old theme "Mostly Crystal - Firefox Theme"

[D. K. Kraft]

With patience akin to a cat's, Rainer Bielefeld wrote on 12/27/2016 6:42 AM:

On 27.12.2016 13:41, Lucas Levrel wrote:

"CatThief" according to the addon manager. Alas the site (tom-cat.com)
has been discontinued. The last time I visited it (a few years ago) it
said the theme was *not* publicly licensed. I guess we're not even
entitled to edit install.rdf in theory...



Hello

I downloaded ""Mostly Crystal - Firefox Theme" from , and
"license.txt" tells:

theme name:  Mostly Crystal
developer:  CatThief  - tom-cat.com/mozilla
contributor:  Everaldo - everaldo.com (Crystal SVG icons)

Mostly Crystal is a theme for Mozilla Firefox "mostly" from the Crystal
SVG (for Linux) icon set designed by Everaldo and includes images
reproduced in their original form plus  customized composites of the
originals.

This theme is for Windows, Linux, and Mac OS X systems only.

Permission was granted by Everaldo to use these icons in their original
form, and every effort was made during the creation of customized
composites of the original images to keep this theme true to "Linux KDE
Crystal" appearance.

The theme's code base is open source (licensing information is contained
in the boilerplate text at the head of each file) and there is nothing
to prevent anyone from using it as a model for their own theme; however,
this theme may not be modified and/or re-released at any time as long as
it remains active by its developer.  If the developer ceases active
involvement with this theme (no longer available at CatThief's web site
and it ceases to work with current Final Release versions of Firefox for
a period of at least 6 months), the project may be resumed by another
individual as long as proper attribution to the theme's original
developer, "CatThief", the theme's original title, "Mostly Crystal", as
well as all contributors is included.

Details on MPL/LPGL/GPL licensing can be found at:
http://www.mozilla.org/MPL

Mostly Crystal was developed for Firefox 2.0 Final Release including all
sub versions (2.0.x) and is not compatible with versions prior to 2.0.

If this theme breaks on a nightly build, support will not be provided
for problems.

By using this theme you assume full responsibility for any damage to
your computer or your installation of any Firefox program file(s) or
component(s).


CU

Rainer Bielefeld
(SeaMonky QA Volunteer)


[entire post kept intact for relevant info]

I've been using Mostly Crystal for practically all of my Seamonkey versions, 
and it still works with 2.38 with only a few small graphics not showing up, 
mainly close buttons for certain dialog boxes.  I can still close these boxes 
by clicking where the graphic should be, so it's just a matter of the graphic 
not displaying.


It appears to me, from the above, that this theme meets the requirements for 
another developer to take up the project--I don't believe the theme has worked 
on *Firefox* for years.  Note that Seamonkey is not specifically referenced in 
the license text.


I would be overjoyed to see someone take up the Mostly Crystal project for 
Seamonkey.  Alas, my employment and other commitments preclude investment of 
my own time into this undertaking.  I'd be happy and able, however, to share 
any tips or tweaks that I've made for my own use over the years to whomever 
decides to take it up.


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Re: SM 2.46 hangs trying to print

[Gerry Hickman]

Gerry Hickman wrote:

The bug report is exactly the same issue as I am seeing.


I tested removing certain print related settings from prefs.js 
(about:config), and I'm now able to switch between a browser that is 
able to print, and a browser that hangs.


I found two categories of "print" settings in prefs.js
1. "print_printer", {printer name} and "printer_{printer name}", {value}
2. "print.print_printer", {printer name} and "print.printer_{printer 
name}", {value}


Category #1 (without the 'dot') seem to be irrelevant - I deleted all of 
them, and printing was still broken.


Category #2 (with the 'dot') are the settings that were causing the 
issue. If I delete all of them, I lose the old page setup parameters, 
but I'm able to print, and any new page setup parameters will be written 
back to prefs.js.


I also tried to narrow down the specific settings in category #2 that 
were causing the issue, and it looks like the "print_paper_{setting}" 
and related settings.


old settings that cause hang (but look correct)
print_paper_height, 11.00
print_paper_width, 8.50

new settings that work (but look wrong)
print_paper_height, -1.00
print_paper_width, -1.00

So there's an easy workaround for the technical user, but this is not a 
great upgrade experience for a non-technical user. Either way, a setting 
in prefs.js should not be able to cause a browser hang, it suggests 
parsing (and validation) of parameters is not as it should be. I'm 
fairly sure this must be related to recent changes to the SeaMonkey 
code, as it was always stable in the past.



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Re: Saving drafts get bigger each time according to its size in my SM v2.46's "Mail & Newsgroups"

[Jonathan N. Little]

Ant wrote:
> On 1/7/2017 6:58 AM, Jonathan N. Little wrote:
>> Daniel wrote:
>>> and on these hot Summer evenings
>>
>> Where are you, down under? As I type this my county has it's knickers in
>> a twist over the 6-7 inches of snow that falling ;-)
> 
> Look at his dan...@albury.net.spam.au e-mail & IP address. ;-)

Yep, that would certainly provide a clue! BTW the 1-3 inch prediction
was a wee bit off 2 more inches topped me out a 8 inches of the white.
Not an issue for this old Yankee but my Dixie neighbors sheltering in
place...

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Re: Saving drafts get bigger each time according to its size in my SM v2.46's "Mail & Newsgroups"

[Ant]

On 1/7/2017 6:58 AM, Jonathan N. Little wrote:

Daniel wrote:

and on these hot Summer evenings


Where are you, down under? As I type this my county has it's knickers in
a twist over the 6-7 inches of snow that falling ;-)


Look at his dan...@albury.net.spam.au e-mail & IP address. ;-)
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Can't drag and drop a folder with 137 images from their 47 sub(folder/directorie)s?

[Ant]

Hello.

Is it me or does both https://www.flickr.com/photos/upload/ and 
https://photos.google.com/ fail to drag and drop with a single folder 
with 137 images from their 47 sub(folder/directorie)s (almost 35 MB in 
total)? Nothing happens after the drop. I asked about this in their 
support forums and one said no problem in h(is/er) Firefox web browser 
in an old Windows XP machine. I tried disabling my uBlock Origin 
extension, enabling send referers, and changing my user agent to 
"Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:49.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/49.0". None of those helped.


Thank you in advance. :)
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Re: Browser not authentication-capable or authentication failed.

[David C. Mores]

Lee wrote:

On 1/7/17, David E. Ross  wrote:

On 1/7/2017 9:27 AM, David C. Mores wrote:

I am trying to login on my Cisco/Linksys WRT120N home router admin page
at http://192.168.0.1/ using seamonkey.  I get a pop up window prompting
for 'A username and password are being requested by http://192.168.0.1.
The site says: "WRT120N"'  Clicking the OK button after entering the
info causes the window to close, but pop up again.  Clicking the Cancel
button results in an error page:

401 Authorization Required
Browser not authentication-capable or authentication failed.

I think this may be a bug in seamonkey V2.46 Build identifier:
20161213183751 because the very same login using the Google Chrome or MS
Edge browsers work just fine - i.e. a successful router login.

I can find no setting in about:config that seem to control
authentication capabilities.

My workaround is to use the other browsers, but I normally use seamonkey
for everything.

Have you seen this?  Ideas?  Bug report it?

Thanks,
Dave



This might be bug #435013.  See
.  Currently, there
is no work-around; and I do not see any indication that a fix is being
developed.


Probably not since it's clear-text instead of https:

A username and password are being requested by http://192.168.0.1


I'd check javascript is enabled & cookies are allowed, then try
disabling addons or starting seamonkey in safe mode.

Lee



No joy on Lee's suggestions.  Identical symptoms.

David Ross's pointer to bug 435013, I think, does not apply, as Lee 
pointed out.  Not a cert issue.


I'll wait to see if other suggestions come in before filing a bug report.

Dave
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Re: Browser not authentication-capable or authentication failed.

[Lee]

On 1/7/17, David E. Ross  wrote:
> On 1/7/2017 9:27 AM, David C. Mores wrote:
>> I am trying to login on my Cisco/Linksys WRT120N home router admin page
>> at http://192.168.0.1/ using seamonkey.  I get a pop up window prompting
>> for 'A username and password are being requested by http://192.168.0.1.
>> The site says: "WRT120N"'  Clicking the OK button after entering the
>> info causes the window to close, but pop up again.  Clicking the Cancel
>> button results in an error page:
>>
>> 401 Authorization Required
>> Browser not authentication-capable or authentication failed.
>>
>> I think this may be a bug in seamonkey V2.46 Build identifier:
>> 20161213183751 because the very same login using the Google Chrome or MS
>> Edge browsers work just fine - i.e. a successful router login.
>>
>> I can find no setting in about:config that seem to control
>> authentication capabilities.
>>
>> My workaround is to use the other browsers, but I normally use seamonkey
>> for everything.
>>
>> Have you seen this?  Ideas?  Bug report it?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Dave
>>
>
> This might be bug #435013.  See
> .  Currently, there
> is no work-around; and I do not see any indication that a fix is being
> developed.

Probably not since it's clear-text instead of https:
>> A username and password are being requested by http://192.168.0.1

I'd check javascript is enabled & cookies are allowed, then try
disabling addons or starting seamonkey in safe mode.

Lee
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Re: Browser not authentication-capable or authentication failed.

[David E. Ross]

On 1/7/2017 9:27 AM, David C. Mores wrote:
> I am trying to login on my Cisco/Linksys WRT120N home router admin page 
> at http://192.168.0.1/ using seamonkey.  I get a pop up window prompting 
> for 'A username and password are being requested by http://192.168.0.1. 
> The site says: "WRT120N"'  Clicking the OK button after entering the 
> info causes the window to close, but pop up again.  Clicking the Cancel 
> button results in an error page:
> 
> 401 Authorization Required
> Browser not authentication-capable or authentication failed.
> 
> I think this may be a bug in seamonkey V2.46 Build identifier: 
> 20161213183751 because the very same login using the Google Chrome or MS 
> Edge browsers work just fine - i.e. a successful router login.
> 
> I can find no setting in about:config that seem to control 
> authentication capabilities.
> 
> My workaround is to use the other browsers, but I normally use seamonkey 
> for everything.
> 
> Have you seen this?  Ideas?  Bug report it?
> 
> Thanks,
> Dave
> 

This might be bug #435013.  See
.  Currently, there
is no work-around; and I do not see any indication that a fix is being
developed.

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Browser not authentication-capable or authentication failed.

[David C. Mores]

I am trying to login on my Cisco/Linksys WRT120N home router admin page 
at http://192.168.0.1/ using seamonkey.  I get a pop up window prompting 
for 'A username and password are being requested by http://192.168.0.1. 
The site says: "WRT120N"'  Clicking the OK button after entering the 
info causes the window to close, but pop up again.  Clicking the Cancel 
button results in an error page:


401 Authorization Required
Browser not authentication-capable or authentication failed.

I think this may be a bug in seamonkey V2.46 Build identifier: 
20161213183751 because the very same login using the Google Chrome or MS 
Edge browsers work just fine - i.e. a successful router login.


I can find no setting in about:config that seem to control 
authentication capabilities.


My workaround is to use the other browsers, but I normally use seamonkey 
for everything.


Have you seen this?  Ideas?  Bug report it?

Thanks,
Dave

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Re: Saving drafts get bigger each time according to its size in my SM v2.46's "Mail & Newsgroups"

[Jonathan N. Little]

Daniel wrote:
> and on these hot Summer evenings

Where are you, down under? As I type this my county has it's knickers in
a twist over the 6-7 inches of snow that falling ;-)

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Re: Saving drafts get bigger each time according to its size in my SM v2.46's "Mail & Newsgroups"

[Daniel]

On 7/01/2017 5:57 AM, Jonathan N. Little wrote:

Daniel wrote:

Just mussing!!

Jonathan, what you typed above is correct, as far as I know, but it got
me thinking .

When we receive e-mails which we then send to the Trash folder, those
e-mails, as far as I know, are still in the Inbox mbox file, but as you
typed, a bit in the header is set to indicate that they have been
Trashed so they don't show in the Inbox display. They are then actually
removed when the Inbox is Compacted.

Is it possible that a Draft message has a similar relationship with the
Sent folder, ... i.e. the Draft message is actually stored in the Sent
mbox file with some header bit set to indicate it is really a Draft
message, not a message that has been Sent?


Message is appended to the Sent folder only after SeaMonkey gets
response from mail server that it successfully received the message.



When moving or deleting messages in mail folders the actual data is
still there until rebuilt by compacting. If you don't compact you can
manually "restore" messages by editing the X-Mozilla-Status header
bitflag. I have used Perl to reset values to reset all messages in a
mail folder to recover lost mail for folks that made oopsies with the
delete key.

O.K., thanks, Jonathon, it was just a thought  and on these hot 
Summer evenings, thoughts don't always work out. ;-P


Daniel

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User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:49.0) Gecko/20100101 
SeaMonkey/2.46 Build identifier: 20161213183751

or
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:41.0) Gecko/20100101 
SeaMonkey/2.38 Build identifier: 20150903203501

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Re: Yay... I can add e'mail accounts again...

[Daniel]

On 7/01/2017 3:45 AM, sean wrote:

The earlier version of the Linux 64 bit nightly from January 3rd I was
using was not allowing me to add new e'mail accounts... happily the
January 6th nightly is allowing new e'mail account creation.

love that it's spiffy and fast as all get out.

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49a2
Build identifier: 20170106013001

sean


Sean, was SM only allowing you to add additional News accounts?? If so, 
there is an change to a setting in about:config that will allow you to 
add more e-mail accounts after adding news accounts.


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User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:49.0) Gecko/20100101 
SeaMonkey/2.46 Build identifier: 20161213183751

or
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:41.0) Gecko/20100101 
SeaMonkey/2.38 Build identifier: 20150903203501

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