Re: Slow SM due to ZA antivirus?

[null]

Paul in Houston, TX wrote:

null wrote:

Paul in Houston, TX wrote:

null wrote:
Been using SM for years without problems, but this year it seems to 
run slower and slower.
Also been running Zone Alarm free firewall + antivirus for a very 
long time. There is
increasing circumstantial evidence that ZA's antivirus checking is 
slowing the loading of
SM - and a lot of my other programmes, too - but it is worst with 
SM. When run, SM often
takes a minute or more before even the browser frame appears, and 
Firefox was not much
better until I recently discovered how to do what FF calls a 
"refresh", whereupon load
speed improved considerably compared to SM. Chrome has always 
loaded fast, but that's

irrelevant to my problems because I don't like it and rarely use it.

So .while it seems to slow file running and saving in general, 
why would ZA so

particularly affect SM in comparison with my refreshed FF?

Can't be the computer - got 2GB RAM, 3.2MHz CPU, keep the HD well 
defragged, etc.


Anyone here using ZA who has a similar problem?


I use ZA firewall but never the anti-virus.  Actually I dont use any 
anti-virus at all

for at least 10 years now and have never noticed that problem.
Easy enough to check out.
Turn off loading of ZA and see if it makes a difference.

I realize that some users, like yourself, don't use an antivirus yet 
report no problems
for years. My experience has been the opposite and I now wouldn't be 
without both firewall
and antivirus, no even to solve this pesky slowness problem. Perhaps 
the virus danger
level  depends on what programmes you install, what you use your 
computer for, and where
you go on the net - everyone is different in that regard, and your 
activities may have

kept you at very low risk for some reason.

As for ZA slowing things down, snoozing the firewall and/or antivirus 
through the system
tray icon results in very little improvement. However, today I 
thought I'd try the toolbar
option that allows you to restart with add-ons disabled. Surprised to 
see from the window
that pops up that this actually is how to restart SM in safe mode, 
something I had read
about but had always assumed referred to the OS safe mode. SM could 
do with a bit of
clarification about this. Anyway, the result was that SM started 
loading in around 9
seconds instead of the recent 60 seconds or more, and this continued 
a number of times
when SM was started normally from the desktop icon, so the problem 
seems to have stopped.
Various other programmes and utilities are also loading faster as 
they used to. The
strange thing is that nothing seems to have changed with what SM 
chooses to call the
Add-ons, actually extensions or plugins, which are not the same 
thing. I have no
extensions. As for the plug-ins, some were previously set to 
automatic, some to manual,
and a couple disabled - none of that changed after I carried out the 
above, yet the slow
loading problem disappeared. All very mysterious and frustrating, to 
say nothing of time

consuming, Sigh.


Thanks for the update, Null.
Interesting that it is good with a normal start after a safe mode start.
Oh, and I always try no firewall with the cable unplugged or wifi 
turned off.


Well, if you choose the OS safe mode at boot, the next boot will be 
normal, so it would perhaps make sense for the SM safe mode to behave 
similarly. Of course, an important difference is that the later puts up 
window with a set of radio button options which you can also select 
before going into safe mode, such as deleting all bookmarks. Of course, 
the mystery is exactly what happened when I selected "Restart with 
Add-ons Disabled",  on the toolbar drop-down, ignored the radio button 
options,  and then proceeded to a reload in safe mode. Nothing seemed to 
have changed when I later looked at the add-ons, but not only SM but 
also FF are now loading very much quicker.


Good point about pulling the cable when testing "no firewall" - so easy 
to do and ensures no risk.

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Re: Slow SM due to ZA antivirus?

[Paul in Houston, TX]

null wrote:

Paul in Houston, TX wrote:

null wrote:

Been using SM for years without problems, but this year it seems to run slower 
and slower.
Also been running Zone Alarm free firewall + antivirus for a very long time. 
There is
increasing circumstantial evidence that ZA's antivirus checking is slowing the 
loading of
SM - and a lot of my other programmes, too - but it is worst with SM. When run, 
SM often
takes a minute or more before even the browser frame appears, and Firefox was 
not much
better until I recently discovered how to do what FF calls a "refresh", 
whereupon load
speed improved considerably compared to SM. Chrome has always loaded fast, but 
that's
irrelevant to my problems because I don't like it and rarely use it.

So .while it seems to slow file running and saving in general, why would ZA 
so
particularly affect SM in comparison with my refreshed FF?

Can't be the computer - got 2GB RAM, 3.2MHz CPU, keep the HD well defragged, 
etc.

Anyone here using ZA who has a similar problem?


I use ZA firewall but never the anti-virus.  Actually I dont use any anti-virus 
at all
for at least 10 years now and have never noticed that problem.
Easy enough to check out.
Turn off loading of ZA and see if it makes a difference.


I realize that some users, like yourself, don't use an antivirus yet report no 
problems
for years. My experience has been the opposite and I now wouldn't be without 
both firewall
and antivirus, no even to solve this pesky slowness problem. Perhaps the virus 
danger
level  depends on what programmes you install, what you use your computer for, 
and where
you go on the net - everyone is different in that regard, and your activities 
may have
kept you at very low risk for some reason.

As for ZA slowing things down, snoozing the firewall and/or antivirus through 
the system
tray icon results in very little improvement. However, today I thought I'd try 
the toolbar
option that allows you to restart with add-ons disabled. Surprised to see from 
the window
that pops up that this actually is how to restart SM in safe mode, something I 
had read
about but had always assumed referred to the OS safe mode. SM could do with a 
bit of
clarification about this. Anyway, the result was that SM started loading in 
around 9
seconds instead of the recent 60 seconds or more, and this continued a number 
of times
when SM was started normally from the desktop icon, so the problem seems to 
have stopped.
Various other programmes and utilities are also loading faster as they used to. 
The
strange thing is that nothing seems to have changed with what SM chooses to 
call the
Add-ons, actually extensions or plugins, which are not the same thing. I have no
extensions. As for the plug-ins, some were previously set to automatic, some to 
manual,
and a couple disabled - none of that changed after I carried out the above, yet 
the slow
loading problem disappeared. All very mysterious and frustrating, to say 
nothing of time
consuming, Sigh.


Thanks for the update, Null.
Interesting that it is good with a normal start after a safe mode start.
Oh, and I always try no firewall with the cable unplugged or wifi turned off.

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Re: Slow SM due to ZA antivirus?

[null]

Paul in Houston, TX wrote:

null wrote:
Been using SM for years without problems, but this year it seems to 
run slower and slower.
Also been running Zone Alarm free firewall + antivirus for a very 
long time. There is
increasing circumstantial evidence that ZA's antivirus checking is 
slowing the loading of
SM - and a lot of my other programmes, too - but it is worst with SM. 
When run, SM often
takes a minute or more before even the browser frame appears, and 
Firefox was not much
better until I recently discovered how to do what FF calls a 
"refresh", whereupon load
speed improved considerably compared to SM. Chrome has always loaded 
fast, but that's

irrelevant to my problems because I don't like it and rarely use it.

So .while it seems to slow file running and saving in general, 
why would ZA so

particularly affect SM in comparison with my refreshed FF?

Can't be the computer - got 2GB RAM, 3.2MHz CPU, keep the HD well 
defragged, etc.


Anyone here using ZA who has a similar problem?


I use ZA firewall but never the anti-virus.  Actually I dont use any 
anti-virus at all

for at least 10 years now and have never noticed that problem.
Easy enough to check out.
Turn off loading of ZA and see if it makes a difference.

I realize that some users, like yourself, don't use an antivirus yet 
report no problems for years. My experience has been the opposite and I 
now wouldn't be without both firewall and antivirus, no even to solve 
this pesky slowness problem. Perhaps the virus danger level  depends on 
what programmes you install, what you use your computer for, and where 
you go on the net - everyone is different in that regard, and your 
activities may have kept you at very low risk for some reason.


As for ZA slowing things down, snoozing the firewall and/or antivirus 
through the system tray icon results in very little improvement. 
However, today I thought I'd try the toolbar option that allows you to 
restart with add-ons disabled. Surprised to see from the window that 
pops up that this actually is how to restart SM in safe mode, something 
I had read about but had always assumed referred to the OS safe mode. SM 
could do with a bit of clarification about this. Anyway, the result was 
that SM started loading in around 9 seconds instead of the recent 60 
seconds or more, and this continued a number of times when SM was 
started normally from the desktop icon, so the problem seems to have 
stopped. Various other programmes and utilities are also loading faster 
as they used to. The strange thing is that nothing seems to have changed 
with what SM chooses to call the Add-ons, actually extensions or 
plugins, which are not the same thing. I have no extensions. As for the 
plug-ins, some were previously set to automatic, some to manual, and a 
couple disabled - none of that changed after I carried out the above, 
yet the slow loading problem disappeared. All very mysterious and 
frustrating, to say nothing of time consuming, Sigh.

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Re: Set a printer by default in SM v2.46 & 64-bit W7?

[Ant via support-seamonkey]

On 7/25/2017 9:15 AM, Ant wrote:

Hello.

For some reason, my default printer got changed in my SeaMonkey (SM)
v2.46. I cannot seem to make it use the printer I want. It keeps
changing after every SM's restart. Am I blind of not seeing the default
printer option in SM?

Thank you in advance. :)


Other programs, like Notepad, showed the correct default printer. So I 
made a backup and edited my SM's prefs.js to change its default printer 
to user_pref("print_printer", "HP_Photosmart_8400_Series");


I loaded SM up a few times, and it stayed. I am still puzzled what 
happened earlier.

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Re: Updating from 2.46 to 2.48

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Desiree wrote:


Thank you. So, this means that if I have the official version 2.46 on
Windows that if I want the new 2.48 the ONLY way to EVER get it is to
download the entire thing? I guess I will just stick with 2.46.


Depends on your connection speed. Is 38 MB a problem? For comparison, 
2.46 was 35 MB.


The subdirectory 
https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/releases/2.48/win32/en-US/ 
contains:


FileSeaMonkey Setup 2.48.exe38M 21-Jul-2017 08:32
...
Fileseamonkey-2.48.zip  48M 21-Jul-2017 08:32

I was surprised to see that the zip file was 10 MB larger -- it turns 
out that's because it contains all the SeaMonkey files and folders 
instead of the installer.


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Re: Why Backup Profile

[David E. Ross]

On 7/25/2017 5:17 PM, meagain wrote:
> On 7/25/2017 2:16 PM, Ray_Net wrote:
>> meagain wrote on 25-07-17 20:01:
>>> On 7/25/2017 11:45 AM, Ray_Net wrote:
 meagain wrote on 25-07-17 17:14:
> On 7/25/2017 10:46 AM, David E. Ross wrote:
>> On 7/25/2017 6:33 AM, Ray_Net wrote:
>>> meagain wrote on 25-07-17 13:46:
 Why do I have to make backups of the SM 'profile' - couldn't the
 profile
 just be in Dropbox?
>>> If you do an action that destroy your profile, It will be
>>> destroyed in
>>> your dropbox.
>>>
>>> It's not so difficult to copy, when SM in not running, your current
>>> profile:
>>> C:\Users\\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\ey8r9gln.default
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Into per exemple this directory:
>>> C:\MYBACKUP\SM\PROFILE\2.46\2017-july-17\
>>>
>>
>> My five profiles are NOT anywhere on my C-drive.  I believe I am
>> not the
>> only SeaMonkey user who has put profiles elsewhere.
>>
>> To find your profiles, enter about:profiles in SeaMonkey's address
>> area
>> (URI area).
>>
>
> Dropbox has a directory "Apps" where some applications store their
> data, each in its own folder. In case of damage DB backs-up all
> versions for a month (free).
>
> So, David, how does one 'move' a profile to another c-drive?
>
>
 Will the dropbox backup occurs when SM is not running ?
>>>
>>> When a file is not 'in use' Dropbox indexes it (creates a CRC) then
>>> uploads it (using the CRC to make sure it matches - actually the CRC
>>> is on each piece of 5MB or so).  The backup store is done when the
>>> file is replaced.
>> I hate those automatic actions ... never sure that the backup occur at a
>> right time.
> 
> If you are not a Dropbox user already then I may have given the wrong 
> impression. (I wish they had better documentation.) All your files are
> on your computer AND in the Dropbox cloud. When you delete or change a
> file on your computer it is changed in the cloud, plus the old file is
> kept as a "backup" that can be retrieved at will (within 30 days).
> 
> An app example is Rootsmagic: install the s/w and the data is 
> automatically put on dropbox.  https://www.rootsmagic.com/App/FAQ/
> 
> So If I could tell SeaMonkey to use   c://...dropbox/qqxxyyy   for my 
> profile then my profile would be in the cloud all the time after SM has
> been closed for the day.

That means my browser history, cookies, etc, are all available to hackers.


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Re: Updating from 2.46 to 2.48

[Desiree]

On 7/25/2017 3:10 AM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

  >>
  > Your comment is confusing.  What do you mean by "upgrades"?  The language in
  > SeaMonkey when you check is "updates" not "upgrades".
Ok Updates is it.
  > I recall the last update was all messed up as far as internal push and it 
was
  > a long wait to get it.  Is that the case this time too?
This will not work at all for this release assuming that you are using the
official version. If you use Linux and the version is/was provided by your
distribution just ignore. The distributor will then update it as usual.
FRG

Desiree wrote:

On 7/24/2017 9:53 PM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

I forgot. Upgrades will not work for 2.48. With the switch to new distribution
servers trying to make this work turned out to be not possible in the given
timeframe.
FRG

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

The release is done but there are problems with the configuration for the
distribution servers so it has not been officially announced yet.
You can grab the full installer from here:

https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/releases/2.48/
If it comes down to doing a new build (very very very unlikely) you would need
to download again and reinstall but nothing which would be problematic.
Please backup your profile before upgrading in case you want to go back. There
were some changes in the Mozilla code which might break older add-ons.
FRG

Jonathan Wilson wrote:

Is there an official verified working release of SM 2.48 final I can
download? Or should I wait for the auto-updater to offer me the update?


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Your comment is confusing.  What do you mean by "upgrades"?  The language in
SeaMonkey when you check is "updates" not "upgrades".

I recall the last update was all messed up as far as internal push and it was
a long wait to get it.  Is that the case this time too?


Thank you. So, this means that if I have the official version 2.46 on 
Windows that if I want the new 2.48 the ONLY way to EVER get it is to 
download the entire thing?  I guess I will just stick with 2.46.

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Re: Why Backup Profile

[meagain]

On 7/25/2017 2:16 PM, Ray_Net wrote:

meagain wrote on 25-07-17 20:01:

On 7/25/2017 11:45 AM, Ray_Net wrote:

meagain wrote on 25-07-17 17:14:

On 7/25/2017 10:46 AM, David E. Ross wrote:

On 7/25/2017 6:33 AM, Ray_Net wrote:

meagain wrote on 25-07-17 13:46:

Why do I have to make backups of the SM 'profile' - couldn't the
profile
just be in Dropbox?

If you do an action that destroy your profile, It will be
destroyed in
your dropbox.

It's not so difficult to copy, when SM in not running, your current
profile:
C:\Users\\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\ey8r9gln.default



Into per exemple this directory:
C:\MYBACKUP\SM\PROFILE\2.46\2017-july-17\



My five profiles are NOT anywhere on my C-drive.  I believe I am
not the
only SeaMonkey user who has put profiles elsewhere.

To find your profiles, enter about:profiles in SeaMonkey's address
area
(URI area).



Dropbox has a directory "Apps" where some applications store their
data, each in its own folder. In case of damage DB backs-up all
versions for a month (free).

So, David, how does one 'move' a profile to another c-drive?



Will the dropbox backup occurs when SM is not running ?


When a file is not 'in use' Dropbox indexes it (creates a CRC) then
uploads it (using the CRC to make sure it matches - actually the CRC
is on each piece of 5MB or so).  The backup store is done when the
file is replaced.

I hate those automatic actions ... never sure that the backup occur at a
right time.


If you are not a Dropbox user already then I may have given the wrong 
impression. (I wish they had better documentation.) All your files are

on your computer AND in the Dropbox cloud. When you delete or change a
file on your computer it is changed in the cloud, plus the old file is
kept as a "backup" that can be retrieved at will (within 30 days).

An app example is Rootsmagic: install the s/w and the data is 
automatically put on dropbox.  https://www.rootsmagic.com/App/FAQ/


So If I could tell SeaMonkey to use   c://...dropbox/qqxxyyy   for my 
profile then my profile would be in the cloud all the time after SM has

been closed for the day.




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Re: Set a printer by default in SM v2.46 & 64-bit W7?

[Ant via support-seamonkey]

On 7/25/2017 1:17 PM, cyberzen wrote:

Ant a écrit :

Hello.

For some reason, my default printer got changed in my SeaMonkey (SM)
v2.46. I cannot seem to make it use the printer I want. It keeps
changing after every SM's restart. Am I blind of not seeing the default
printer option in SM?

Thank you in advance. :)


seamonkey remembers the last printer used
and makes it default printer


Weird. I did print earlier with that printer but it keeps going to the 
other printer. Argh!

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Re: Set a printer by default in SM v2.46 & 64-bit W7?

[Ant via support-seamonkey]

On 7/25/2017 9:41 AM, Ed Mullen wrote:

On 7/25/17 at 12:15 PM, Ant created this epitome of digital genius:

Hello.

For some reason, my default printer got changed in my SeaMonkey (SM)
v2.46. I cannot seem to make it use the printer I want. It keeps
changing after every SM's restart. Am I blind of not seeing the
default printer option in SM?

Thank you in advance. :)


Did your Windows default printer get changed by any chance?


Nope. It is still on the printer I want, but SeaMonkey isn't using it by 
default. :(

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Re: Set a printer by default in SM v2.46 & 64-bit W7?

[Ant via support-seamonkey]

On 7/25/2017 1:18 PM, David E. Ross wrote:

On 7/25/2017 9:15 AM, Ant wrote:

Hello.

For some reason, my default printer got changed in my SeaMonkey (SM)
v2.46. I cannot seem to make it use the printer I want. It keeps
changing after every SM's restart. Am I blind of not seeing the default
printer option in SM?

Thank you in advance. :)



First, you must set your Windows default printer.  Go to [Start >
Settings > Printers].  Select your preferred default printer and
right-click.  From the pull-down context menu, select "Set as Default
Printer".

Then use a plain-text editor (e.g., Notepad) to edit file user.js in
your SeaMonkey profile.  Insert the following:
user_pref("print_printer", "");
// default back to Windows default printer if another printer
// was selected
The semi-colon (;) at the end of the first line is mandatory.  The
second and third lines are merely comments, indicated by the double
virgules (//).  This is applied every time SeaMonkey is launched after a
complete termination.


Weird. I never had to use this workaround before. What happened? :(
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Re: Slow SM due to ZA antivirus?

[Paul in Houston, TX]

null wrote:

Been using SM for years without problems, but this year it seems to run slower 
and slower.
Also been running Zone Alarm free firewall + antivirus for a very long time. 
There is
increasing circumstantial evidence that ZA's antivirus checking is slowing the 
loading of
SM - and a lot of my other programmes, too - but it is worst with SM. When run, 
SM often
takes a minute or more before even the browser frame appears, and Firefox was 
not much
better until I recently discovered how to do what FF calls a "refresh", 
whereupon load
speed improved considerably compared to SM. Chrome has always loaded fast, but 
that's
irrelevant to my problems because I don't like it and rarely use it.

So .while it seems to slow file running and saving in general, why would ZA 
so
particularly affect SM in comparison with my refreshed FF?

Can't be the computer - got 2GB RAM, 3.2MHz CPU, keep the HD well defragged, 
etc.

Anyone here using ZA who has a similar problem?


I use ZA firewall but never the anti-virus.  Actually I dont use any anti-virus 
at all
for at least 10 years now and have never noticed that problem.
Easy enough to check out.
Turn off loading of ZA and see if it makes a difference.

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Re: Why Backup Profile

[David E. Ross]

On 7/25/2017 8:13 AM, Mozillian wrote:
> Using what ?
> Steps please !
> So we all can learn.
> Even stupids like me.
> 

Since I keep my backups on a removable hard drive that I store remotely
from my computer, I backup only once a week (today or tomorrow).  See my
 for details.

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Re: Set a printer by default in SM v2.46 & 64-bit W7?

[cyberzen]

Ant a écrit :

Hello.

For some reason, my default printer got changed in my SeaMonkey (SM)
v2.46. I cannot seem to make it use the printer I want. It keeps
changing after every SM's restart. Am I blind of not seeing the default
printer option in SM?

Thank you in advance. :)


seamonkey remembers the last printer used
and makes it default printer
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Re: Set a printer by default in SM v2.46 & 64-bit W7?

[David E. Ross]

On 7/25/2017 9:15 AM, Ant wrote:
> Hello.
> 
> For some reason, my default printer got changed in my SeaMonkey (SM) 
> v2.46. I cannot seem to make it use the printer I want. It keeps 
> changing after every SM's restart. Am I blind of not seeing the default 
> printer option in SM?
> 
> Thank you in advance. :)
> 

First, you must set your Windows default printer.  Go to [Start >
Settings > Printers].  Select your preferred default printer and
right-click.  From the pull-down context menu, select "Set as Default
Printer".

Then use a plain-text editor (e.g., Notepad) to edit file user.js in
your SeaMonkey profile.  Insert the following:
user_pref("print_printer", "");
// default back to Windows default printer if another printer
// was selected
The semi-colon (;) at the end of the first line is mandatory.  The
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virgules (//).  This is applied every time SeaMonkey is launched after a
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Re: Why Backup Profile

[David E. Ross]

On 7/25/2017 8:14 AM, meagain wrote:
> On 7/25/2017 10:46 AM, David E. Ross wrote:
>> On 7/25/2017 6:33 AM, Ray_Net wrote:
>>> meagain wrote on 25-07-17 13:46:
 Why do I have to make backups of the SM 'profile' - couldn't the profile
 just be in Dropbox?
>>> If you do an action that destroy your profile, It will be destroyed in
>>> your dropbox.
>>>
>>> It's not so difficult to copy, when SM in not running, your current profile:
>>> C:\Users\\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\ey8r9gln.default
>>>
>>> Into per exemple this directory: C:\MYBACKUP\SM\PROFILE\2.46\2017-july-17\
>>>
>>
>> My five profiles are NOT anywhere on my C-drive.  I believe I am not the
>> only SeaMonkey user who has put profiles elsewhere.
>>
>> To find your profiles, enter about:profiles in SeaMonkey's address area
>> (URI area).
>>
> 
> Dropbox has a directory "Apps" where some applications store their data, 
> each in its own folder. In case of damage DB backs-up all versions for a 
> month (free).
> 
> So, David, how does one 'move' a profile to another c-drive?

If your profile will be exactly in the same location on the new C-drive
where it was on your old C-drive, install SeaMonkey.  Then over-write
the new profile.ini on the new C-drive with the profiles.ini your old
C-drive.  Open the resulting profiles.ini file to see where your profile
was stored on your old C-drive and the Windows internal folder name
used; copy that folder from your old C-drive to the same location on
your new C-drive.

If, however, you choose to place your profile in a difference location
on the new C-drive --

1.  Locate the file profiles.ini on your new C-drive as I indicated
earlier in this thread.

2.  Open profiles.ini in a plain text editor (e.g., Notepad, Wordpad,
but NOT Word).

3.  Where you see something like
 Name=alt
that specifies the name of the profile (here "alt") seen in the Profile
Manager or used with the -p option when launching SeaMonkey.

4.  Where you see something like
Path=xxx
"xxx" is the Windows internal name of the profile folder.  This is where
you indicate the new path to your moved profile, complete from the drive
letter to the Windows internal folder name.  Since that will be a
complete path, then you will also need
IsRelative=0
to indicate the path is NOT relative to where your profiles.ini file is
located.

NOTE WELL:  Do NOT move the file profiles.ini.  SeaMonkey will look for
it only where you found it in step #1.

In my configuration, my browser is not on my C-drive; and my five
profiles are on a third drive.  In my profiles.ini, I have five
instances of
[Profilen]
Name=xxx
IsRelative=0
Path=zzz
Default=1
where the "n" in Profilen is a number from 0 to 4 for my five profiles.
"xxx" is the various names of my profiles.  All my paths (zzz) are
complete, not relative.

Default=1 appears to be set whenever I change profiles.  You should
leave this alone if it exists.  I think it determines which profile to
use if, instead of launching Firefox, you select an Internet shortcut
that causes Windows to automatically launch SeaMonkey.

Note:  With a changed loacation for your profile, you might need to edit
the file prefs.js.  Either do this in SeaMonkey by putting about:config
in the address area, or else terminate SeaMonkey and do this in a
plain-text editor.  Each preference that refers to a Windows path needs
to be examined to determine if that path should be changed to reflect
the changed path to the profile.  BE VERY CAREFUL when you do this.  It
is best to backup file prefs.js before attempting to modify it.

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Re: Why Backup Profile

[Ray_Net]

meagain wrote on 25-07-17 20:01:

On 7/25/2017 11:45 AM, Ray_Net wrote:

meagain wrote on 25-07-17 17:14:

On 7/25/2017 10:46 AM, David E. Ross wrote:

On 7/25/2017 6:33 AM, Ray_Net wrote:

meagain wrote on 25-07-17 13:46:

Why do I have to make backups of the SM 'profile' - couldn't the
profile
just be in Dropbox?
If you do an action that destroy your profile, It will be 
destroyed in

your dropbox.

It's not so difficult to copy, when SM in not running, your current
profile:
C:\Users\\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\ey8r9gln.default 




Into per exemple this directory:
C:\MYBACKUP\SM\PROFILE\2.46\2017-july-17\



My five profiles are NOT anywhere on my C-drive.  I believe I am 
not the

only SeaMonkey user who has put profiles elsewhere.

To find your profiles, enter about:profiles in SeaMonkey's address 
area

(URI area).



Dropbox has a directory "Apps" where some applications store their
data, each in its own folder. In case of damage DB backs-up all
versions for a month (free).

So, David, how does one 'move' a profile to another c-drive?



Will the dropbox backup occurs when SM is not running ?


When a file is not 'in use' Dropbox indexes it (creates a CRC) then 
uploads it (using the CRC to make sure it matches - actually the CRC 
is on each piece of 5MB or so).  The backup store is done when the 
file is replaced.
I hate those automatic actions ... never sure that the backup occur at a 
right time.

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Re: Why Backup Profile

[meagain]

On 7/25/2017 11:45 AM, Ray_Net wrote:

meagain wrote on 25-07-17 17:14:

On 7/25/2017 10:46 AM, David E. Ross wrote:

On 7/25/2017 6:33 AM, Ray_Net wrote:

meagain wrote on 25-07-17 13:46:

Why do I have to make backups of the SM 'profile' - couldn't the
profile
just be in Dropbox?

If you do an action that destroy your profile, It will be destroyed in
your dropbox.

It's not so difficult to copy, when SM in not running, your current
profile:
C:\Users\\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\ey8r9gln.default


Into per exemple this directory:
C:\MYBACKUP\SM\PROFILE\2.46\2017-july-17\



My five profiles are NOT anywhere on my C-drive.  I believe I am not the
only SeaMonkey user who has put profiles elsewhere.

To find your profiles, enter about:profiles in SeaMonkey's address area
(URI area).



Dropbox has a directory "Apps" where some applications store their
data, each in its own folder. In case of damage DB backs-up all
versions for a month (free).

So, David, how does one 'move' a profile to another c-drive?



Will the dropbox backup occurs when SM is not running ?


When a file is not 'in use' Dropbox indexes it (creates a CRC) then 
uploads it (using the CRC to make sure it matches - actually the CRC is 
on each piece of 5MB or so).  The backup store is done when the file is 
replaced.

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Re: Why Backup Profile

[Ray_Net]

WaltS48 wrote on 25-07-17 17:49:

On 7/25/17 11:13 AM, Mozillian wrote:

Using what ?
Steps please !
So we all can learn.
Even stupids like me.



Well, here on Linux I insert my USB flash drive, go to the .mozilla 
profile folder on my HD, right click, select Copy, select the flash 
drive and click Paste. Sometimes I'll enter the .mozilla folder and 
select one profile and just copy and paste it into the ./mozilla 
folder on the flash drive.


Takes awhile and involves answering questions about whether I want to 
Skip or Replace items, but it works for me.



To mention that SM must not be running when you copy/paste.
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Re: Set a printer by default in SM v2.46 & 64-bit W7?

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On 7/25/17 at 12:15 PM, Ant created this epitome of digital genius:

Hello.

For some reason, my default printer got changed in my SeaMonkey (SM) 
v2.46. I cannot seem to make it use the printer I want. It keeps 
changing after every SM's restart. Am I blind of not seeing the default 
printer option in SM?


Thank you in advance. :)


Did your Windows default printer get changed by any chance?

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Re: Why Backup Profile

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On 7/25/17 at 11:13 AM, Mozillian created this epitome of digital genius:

Using what ?
Steps please !
So we all can learn.
Even stupids like me.



I use Todo Backup:



I have three licenses.  In Todo you can schedule many different kinds of 
backups but I only use complete image backups.  The C: (boot) drive and 
the G: (programs and data) drive are imaged daily to a removable 1 Tb 
USB drive.  I have two of these drives: One on the system and one in the 
safe deposit box at the bank. I swap them out periodically.


BTW, this has saved me several times in the past when something has gone 
south, like having the C: drive die, or accidentally deleting a file.


Todo has a free version but I use Todo Backup home as it is more fully 
featured.


Steps
1. Download your desired version
2. Install
3. Run
4. Schedule your backups

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Set a printer by default in SM v2.46 & 64-bit W7?

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Hello.

For some reason, my default printer got changed in my SeaMonkey (SM) 
v2.46. I cannot seem to make it use the printer I want. It keeps 
changing after every SM's restart. Am I blind of not seeing the default 
printer option in SM?


Thank you in advance. :)
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mozilla-community.org down?

[TCW]

Seems like mozilla-community.org has been down a couple days. Anyone 
know what's up?

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Re: Why Backup Profile

[Ray_Net]

Ed Mullen wrote on 25-07-17 17:10:

On 7/25/17 at 9:33 AM, Ray_Net created this epitome of digital genius:

meagain wrote on 25-07-17 13:46:
Why do I have to make backups of the SM 'profile' - couldn't the 
profile

just be in Dropbox?
If you do an action that destroy your profile, It will be destroyed 
in your dropbox.


It's not so difficult to copy, when SM in not running, your current 
profile:
C:\Users\\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\ey8r9gln.default 



Into per exemple this directory: 
C:\MYBACKUP\SM\PROFILE\2.46\2017-july-17\


Won't help if the drive dies.  Computer users should be doing regular 
backups to different media/drive using a good backup program like ToDo 
Backup.  My boot drive and programs/data drive are imaged daily.


I have also the use of the "Synchronize It!" program that I run it 
frequently to copy some important directories from my hard-disk-drive 
onto an external disk-drive.

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Re: Why Backup Profile

[WaltS48]

On 7/25/17 11:13 AM, Mozillian wrote:

Using what ?
Steps please !
So we all can learn.
Even stupids like me.



Well, here on Linux I insert my USB flash drive, go to the .mozilla 
profile folder on my HD, right click, select Copy, select the flash 
drive and click Paste. Sometimes I'll enter the .mozilla folder and 
select one profile and just copy and paste it into the ./mozilla folder 
on the flash drive.


Takes awhile and involves answering questions about whether I want to 
Skip or Replace items, but it works for me.


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Re: Why Backup Profile

[Ray_Net]

meagain wrote on 25-07-17 17:14:

On 7/25/2017 10:46 AM, David E. Ross wrote:

On 7/25/2017 6:33 AM, Ray_Net wrote:

meagain wrote on 25-07-17 13:46:
Why do I have to make backups of the SM 'profile' - couldn't the 
profile

just be in Dropbox?

If you do an action that destroy your profile, It will be destroyed in
your dropbox.

It's not so difficult to copy, when SM in not running, your current 
profile:
C:\Users\\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\ey8r9gln.default 



Into per exemple this directory: 
C:\MYBACKUP\SM\PROFILE\2.46\2017-july-17\




My five profiles are NOT anywhere on my C-drive.  I believe I am not the
only SeaMonkey user who has put profiles elsewhere.

To find your profiles, enter about:profiles in SeaMonkey's address area
(URI area).



Dropbox has a directory "Apps" where some applications store their 
data, each in its own folder. In case of damage DB backs-up all 
versions for a month (free).


So, David, how does one 'move' a profile to another c-drive?



Will the dropbox backup occurs when SM is not running ?
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Re: Why Backup Profile

[meagain]

On 7/25/2017 10:46 AM, David E. Ross wrote:

On 7/25/2017 6:33 AM, Ray_Net wrote:

meagain wrote on 25-07-17 13:46:

Why do I have to make backups of the SM 'profile' - couldn't the profile
just be in Dropbox?

If you do an action that destroy your profile, It will be destroyed in
your dropbox.

It's not so difficult to copy, when SM in not running, your current profile:
C:\Users\\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\ey8r9gln.default

Into per exemple this directory: C:\MYBACKUP\SM\PROFILE\2.46\2017-july-17\



My five profiles are NOT anywhere on my C-drive.  I believe I am not the
only SeaMonkey user who has put profiles elsewhere.

To find your profiles, enter about:profiles in SeaMonkey's address area
(URI area).



Dropbox has a directory "Apps" where some applications store their data, 
each in its own folder. In case of damage DB backs-up all versions for a 
month (free).


So, David, how does one 'move' a profile to another c-drive?


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Re: Why Backup Profile

[Mozillian]

Using what ?
Steps please !
So we all can learn.
Even stupids like me.

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Re: Why Backup Profile

[Ed Mullen]

On 7/25/17 at 9:33 AM, Ray_Net created this epitome of digital genius:

meagain wrote on 25-07-17 13:46:

Why do I have to make backups of the SM 'profile' - couldn't the profile
just be in Dropbox?
If you do an action that destroy your profile, It will be destroyed in 
your dropbox.


It's not so difficult to copy, when SM in not running, your current 
profile:
C:\Users\\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\ey8r9gln.default 



Into per exemple this directory: C:\MYBACKUP\SM\PROFILE\2.46\2017-july-17\


Won't help if the drive dies.  Computer users should be doing regular 
backups to different media/drive using a good backup program like ToDo 
Backup.  My boot drive and programs/data drive are imaged daily.


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Re: Why Backup Profile

[David E. Ross]

On 7/25/2017 6:33 AM, Ray_Net wrote:
> meagain wrote on 25-07-17 13:46:
>> Why do I have to make backups of the SM 'profile' - couldn't the profile
>> just be in Dropbox?
> If you do an action that destroy your profile, It will be destroyed in 
> your dropbox.
> 
> It's not so difficult to copy, when SM in not running, your current profile:
> C:\Users\\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\ey8r9gln.default
> 
> Into per exemple this directory: C:\MYBACKUP\SM\PROFILE\2.46\2017-july-17\
> 

My five profiles are NOT anywhere on my C-drive.  I believe I am not the
only SeaMonkey user who has put profiles elsewhere.

To find your profiles, enter about:profiles in SeaMonkey's address area
(URI area).

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Slow SM due to ZA antivirus?

[null]

Been using SM for years without problems, but this year it seems to run 
slower and slower. Also been running Zone Alarm free firewall + 
antivirus for a very long time. There is increasing circumstantial 
evidence that ZA's antivirus checking is slowing the loading of SM - and 
a lot of my other programmes, too - but it is worst with SM. When run, 
SM often takes a minute or more before even the browser frame appears, 
and Firefox was not much better until I recently discovered how to do 
what FF calls a "refresh", whereupon load speed improved considerably 
compared to SM. Chrome has always loaded fast, but that's irrelevant to 
my problems because I don't like it and rarely use it.


So .while it seems to slow file running and saving in general, why 
would ZA so particularly affect SM in comparison with my refreshed FF?


Can't be the computer - got 2GB RAM, 3.2MHz CPU, keep the HD well 
defragged, etc.


Anyone here using ZA who has a similar problem?
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Re: Why Backup Profile

[Ray_Net]

meagain wrote on 25-07-17 13:46:

Why do I have to make backups of the SM 'profile' - couldn't the profile
just be in Dropbox?
If you do an action that destroy your profile, It will be destroyed in 
your dropbox.


It's not so difficult to copy, when SM in not running, your current profile:
C:\Users\\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\ey8r9gln.default

Into per exemple this directory: C:\MYBACKUP\SM\PROFILE\2.46\2017-july-17\
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Re: Updating from 2.46 to 2.48

[Frank-Rainer Grahl]

>>
> Your comment is confusing.  What do you mean by "upgrades"?  The language in
> SeaMonkey when you check is "updates" not "upgrades".
Ok Updates is it.
> I recall the last update was all messed up as far as internal push and it was
> a long wait to get it.  Is that the case this time too?
This will not work at all for this release assuming that you are using the 
official version. If you use Linux and the version is/was provided by your 
distribution just ignore. The distributor will then update it as usual.

FRG

Desiree wrote:

On 7/24/2017 9:53 PM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

I forgot. Upgrades will not work for 2.48. With the switch to new distribution
servers trying to make this work turned out to be not possible in the given
timeframe.
FRG

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

The release is done but there are problems with the configuration for the
distribution servers so it has not been officially announced yet.
You can grab the full installer from here:

https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/releases/2.48/
If it comes down to doing a new build (very very very unlikely) you would need
to download again and reinstall but nothing which would be problematic.
Please backup your profile before upgrading in case you want to go back. There
were some changes in the Mozilla code which might break older add-ons.
FRG

Jonathan Wilson wrote:

Is there an official verified working release of SM 2.48 final I can
download? Or should I wait for the auto-updater to offer me the update?


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Your comment is confusing.  What do you mean by "upgrades"?  The language in 
SeaMonkey when you check is "updates" not "upgrades".


I recall the last update was all messed up as far as internal push and it was 
a long wait to get it.  Is that the case this time too?


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Why Backup Profile

[meagain]

Why do I have to make backups of the SM 'profile' - couldn't the profile
just be in Dropbox?
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Re: Updating from 2.46 to 2.48

[Desiree]

On 7/24/2017 9:53 PM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

I forgot. Upgrades will not work for 2.48. With the switch to new distribution
servers trying to make this work turned out to be not possible in the given
timeframe.
FRG

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

The release is done but there are problems with the configuration for the
distribution servers so it has not been officially announced yet.
You can grab the full installer from here:

https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/releases/2.48/
If it comes down to doing a new build (very very very unlikely) you would need
to download again and reinstall but nothing which would be problematic.
Please backup your profile before upgrading in case you want to go back. There
were some changes in the Mozilla code which might break older add-ons.
FRG

Jonathan Wilson wrote:

Is there an official verified working release of SM 2.48 final I can
download? Or should I wait for the auto-updater to offer me the update?


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Your comment is confusing.  What do you mean by "upgrades"?  The 
language in SeaMonkey when you check is "updates" not "upgrades".


I recall the last update was all messed up as far as internal push and 
it was a long wait to get it.  Is that the case this time too?

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Re: How to make an email into a task

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Note that the "convert to" submenu is disabled.

Richmond  writes:

> I thought this would be easy. I have installed Lightning 5.4. I am using
> SM 2.49.1 which I compiled. I want to make an email into a task, but I
> can't see any way to do it.
>
> Also I suspect this version of lightning isn't going to work
> properly. When I display the calendar it gets stuck in a loop and
> everything seems slow down.
>
> (I don't think safe mode or a new profile are going to be any use here).
>
> 64 bit linux.

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Re: Updating from 2.46 to 2.48

[Ray_Net]

Jonathan Wilson wrote on 25-07-17 08:53:
Is there an official verified working release of SM 2.48 final I can 
download? Or should I wait for the auto-updater to offer me the update?



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I have this http://www.seamonkey-project.org/start/  as my home page, SO 
I know when I can download the full released version.

I never do an update.
I backup my profile when SM in ot running.
I download the new full version.
I uninstall my current version.
I install the new version.
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Re: Updating from 2.46 to 2.48

[Frank-Rainer Grahl]

I forgot. Upgrades will not work for 2.48. With the switch to new distribution 
servers trying to make this work turned out to be not possible in the given 
timeframe.

FRG

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
The release is done but there are problems with the configuration for the 
distribution servers so it has not been officially announced yet.

You can grab the full installer from here:

https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/releases/2.48/
If it comes down to doing a new build (very very very unlikely) you would need 
to download again and reinstall but nothing which would be problematic.
Please backup your profile before upgrading in case you want to go back. There 
were some changes in the Mozilla code which might break older add-ons.

FRG

Jonathan Wilson wrote:
Is there an official verified working release of SM 2.48 final I can 
download? Or should I wait for the auto-updater to offer me the update?



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Re: Updating from 2.46 to 2.48

[Frank-Rainer Grahl]

The release is done but there are problems with the configuration for the 
distribution servers so it has not been officially announced yet.

You can grab the full installer from here:

https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/releases/2.48/
If it comes down to doing a new build (very very very unlikely) you would need 
to download again and reinstall but nothing which would be problematic.
Please backup your profile before upgrading in case you want to go back. There 
were some changes in the Mozilla code which might break older add-ons.

FRG

Jonathan Wilson wrote:
Is there an official verified working release of SM 2.48 final I can download? 
Or should I wait for the auto-updater to offer me the update?



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How to make an email into a task

[Richmond via support-seamonkey]

I thought this would be easy. I have installed Lightning 5.4. I am using
SM 2.49.1 which I compiled. I want to make an email into a task, but I
can't see any way to do it.

Also I suspect this version of lightning isn't going to work
properly. When I display the calendar it gets stuck in a loop and
everything seems slow down.

(I don't think safe mode or a new profile are going to be any use here).

64 bit linux.

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