Re: might some change in 2.48 break some web servers?

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Bob Fleischer wrote:


Well, in case anyone else sees this issue.  The problem seems to be
fixed, although I don't know why:

I restarted in "add-ons disabled" mode, connected to the problem
server, authenticated, and the page displayed properly.

I exited SeaMonkey, started SeaMonkey normally, and I was able to
access that server normally.

All I can figure is that the stored cookie or authentication for the
server was damaged in some way, but this persisted even after I
removed all records of that server in the data manager.


If your theory is that a cookie got corrupted, the easy fix would have 
been to clear cookies and reattempt.


I don't usually get these types of errors because I clear private data 
(including cache and cookies) frequently, and automatically on program 
termination. An added benefit (or at least I tell myself that) is that 
it's harder for big brother to build a complete, accurate dossier.


--
War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left.
--
Paul B. Gallagher

___
support-seamonkey mailing list
support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey

Re: Message undelete

[Rob Steinmetz]

Mason83 wrote:

On 28/07/2017 22:23, Ray_Net wrote:


So, it would be easy to change de tag indicating not-deleted ?


I believe so.

https://web.archive.org/web/20170619105411/http://www.eyrich-net.org/mozilla/X-Mozilla-Status.html?en

X-Mozilla-Status: 0009
Subtract 8 from this number.
X-Mozilla-Status: 0001

Then click "Repair Folder" (safely deletes msf).
Message should reappear.

Regards.

I knew that. I'm afraid of screwing up the entire file with the editor, 
especially if I need to recover a bunch of files.


I did do the conversion of the extension I mentioned above and it seemed 
to work. I installed it in SeaMonkey but I haven't had time to test it.

___
support-seamonkey mailing list
support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey

Re: Message undelete

[Mason83]

On 28/07/2017 22:23, Ray_Net wrote:

> So, it would be easy to change de tag indicating not-deleted ?

I believe so.

https://web.archive.org/web/20170619105411/http://www.eyrich-net.org/mozilla/X-Mozilla-Status.html?en

X-Mozilla-Status: 0009
Subtract 8 from this number.
X-Mozilla-Status: 0001

Then click "Repair Folder" (safely deletes msf).
Message should reappear.

Regards.
___
support-seamonkey mailing list
support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey

Re: Message undelete

[Ray_Net]

Mason83 wrote on 28-07-17 19:36:

On 27/07/2017 21:21, Rob Steinmetz wrote:

Daniel wrote:

On 27/07/2017 7:33 AM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Rob Steinmetz wrote:


WaltS48 wrote:

On 7/26/17 12:51 PM, EE wrote:

Rob Steinmetz wrote:

Is there a message undelete add on that works with SeaMonkey?

You can move a message from the trash to another folder.

What do they do if it isn't in the trash?

Is it an email or newsgroup message?


In this case it is an email message that has been moved to another
folder and the other folder is not showing the message. We're not
sure what is going on. It may be the folder's index is corrupt and
can be fixed. or the message may be lost. I was looking for an
undelete before I tried anything else and lost the messages
completely.

First check adjacent folders in the list -- I can't count the number of
times I've dragged and dropped a message into an adjacent folder by
mistake and couldn't find it because it wasn't where I thought I'd put
it.

Failing that, close SM and delete the .msf (index) file for the folder
in question. When you restart SeaMonkey, it'll build a new one. If the
message appears, you're done. If not, post back; you may be able to
recover it manually from the file but that's complicated.

In the interim, if SM offers to compact folders, be sure to refuse. If
it does, you'll lose all hope of recovery. And if you have it set to
compact folders automatically without asking, disable that feature.

Edit | Preferences | Mail & Newsgroups | Network & Storage
[ ] Compact all folders when it will save over nn MB in total


I, also, have dragged and dropped into the wrong folder and had to go
looking ... and finding and re-moving to the correct file.

Second thing for OP Rob to try . SeaMonkey stores it messages in one
file (e.g. inbox, sent, etc) and then has an associated index file (e.g.
inbox.msf, sent.msf).

If you close SeaMonkey and then delete all the *.msf files, when you
re-start SeaMonkey and address each folder in your profile, a new *.msf
file will be created for each folder in your profile (e.g. new
inbox.msf, sent.msf, whatever.msf, etc.) and, if your missing e-mail is
in any of the mail folders, it should show up.

Note:because you have not touched the actual files which hold your mail
(inbox, sent, whatever, etc), your mail should not be lost!!


Thanks for All of the suggestions. I'm pretty much aware of all of them.

In my experience email properly marked as deleted in the MBOX file will
not show up if a new index is created. It will show up if the index is
somehow corrupt.

I did find this add on for Thunderbird:


RECOVER DELETED MESSAGES: an extension that allows to recover deleted messages, if the 
folder has not been compacted yet. To use it, select the folder, right-click and choose 
"Recover deleted messages", then follow the messages in status bar.
 From the 0.2 version it should be able also to recover deleted messages from 
Imap folders, if they're set for offline use.
Localized in english and italian.
latest: 0.4 version (TB - compatibile 2.0 or higher)

I was hoping something similar was available for Sea Monkey. I'll
probably try to convert it to SeaMonkey and try it out.

Did you try opening the source mbox with a text editor?
If you haven't compacted the mbox, the message should
be there with a tag indicating it is deleted.

Regards.

So, it would be easy to change de tag indicating not-deleted ?
___
support-seamonkey mailing list
support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey

Re: might some change in 2.48 break some web servers?

[Bob Fleischer]

Bob Fleischer wrote:

Lee wrote:

On 7/28/17, Bob Fleischer  wrote:

I have Seamonkey V 2.48 running on 64-bit Windows 10 (v 1703). I just
upgraded from V 2.46.

A certain internal corporate web page I use no longer works, but only
when accessed from Seamonkey 2.48 on this system.  On other browsers,
and from an absolutely clean v2.48 installation on a "virgin" Windows 10
(v 1703), everything works as before.


Which means it's not a problem with v2.48 in general, but a problem
with your particular install on that machine.
Have you tried running Seamonkey in safe mode?  with a new profile?
with no addons?

Regards,
Lee




The error page I get seems to come from the server and seems to blame
the server:



You are not authorized to view this page
You do not have permission to view this directory or page using the
credentials you supplied.

Please try the following:

Click the Refresh button to try again with different credentials.
If you believe you should be able to view this directory or page,
please contact the Web site administrator by using the e-mail
address or
phone number listed on the partners.duxburysystems.com home page.

HTTP 401.2 - Unauthorized: Logon failed due to server configuration
Internet Information Services

Technical Information (for support personnel)

Background:
This is usually caused by a server-side script not sending the
proper
WWW-Authenticate header field. Using Active Server Pages scripting
this is
done by using the AddHeader method of the Response object to request
that
the client use a certain authentication method to access the resource.

More information:
Microsoft Support



Note that I am not prompted for a login.

___
support-seamonkey mailing list
support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey


Well, of course it's a problem with my particular install (or profile)
on that machine, but it was a profile that worked correctly in 2.46 (I
use that server every day).  It could mean that a valid but non-default
setting in 2.46 either migrated incorrectly to 2.48 or is implemented
incorrectly (or at least differently) in 2.48.

How do I go about diagnosing that?

(In case it makes a difference, this web server is a very old
version--Windows 2000.  This web site require authentication but is
non-secure--straight http.)

Bob
Well, in case anyone else sees this issue.  The problem seems to be 
fixed, although I don't know why:


I restarted in "add-ons disabled" mode, connected to the problem server, 
authenticated, and the page displayed properly.


I exited SeaMonkey, started SeaMonkey normally, and I was able to access 
that server normally.


All I can figure is that the stored cookie or authentication for the 
server was damaged in some way, but this persisted even after I removed 
all records of that server in the data manager.


Bob
___
support-seamonkey mailing list
support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey

Re: might some change in 2.48 break some web servers?

[Bob Fleischer]

Lee wrote:

On 7/28/17, Bob Fleischer  wrote:

I have Seamonkey V 2.48 running on 64-bit Windows 10 (v 1703). I just
upgraded from V 2.46.

A certain internal corporate web page I use no longer works, but only
when accessed from Seamonkey 2.48 on this system.  On other browsers,
and from an absolutely clean v2.48 installation on a "virgin" Windows 10
(v 1703), everything works as before.


Which means it's not a problem with v2.48 in general, but a problem
with your particular install on that machine.
Have you tried running Seamonkey in safe mode?  with a new profile?
with no addons?

Regards,
Lee




The error page I get seems to come from the server and seems to blame
the server:



You are not authorized to view this page
You do not have permission to view this directory or page using the
credentials you supplied.

Please try the following:

Click the Refresh button to try again with different credentials.
If you believe you should be able to view this directory or page,
please contact the Web site administrator by using the e-mail address or
phone number listed on the partners.duxburysystems.com home page.

HTTP 401.2 - Unauthorized: Logon failed due to server configuration
Internet Information Services

Technical Information (for support personnel)

Background:
This is usually caused by a server-side script not sending the proper
WWW-Authenticate header field. Using Active Server Pages scripting this is
done by using the AddHeader method of the Response object to request that
the client use a certain authentication method to access the resource.

More information:
Microsoft Support



Note that I am not prompted for a login.

___
support-seamonkey mailing list
support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey

Well, of course it's a problem with my particular install (or profile) 
on that machine, but it was a profile that worked correctly in 2.46 (I 
use that server every day).  It could mean that a valid but non-default 
setting in 2.46 either migrated incorrectly to 2.48 or is implemented 
incorrectly (or at least differently) in 2.48.


How do I go about diagnosing that?

(In case it makes a difference, this web server is a very old 
version--Windows 2000.  This web site require authentication but is 
non-secure--straight http.)


Bob
___
support-seamonkey mailing list
support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey

Re: might some change in 2.48 break some web servers?

[Lee]

On 7/28/17, Bob Fleischer  wrote:
> I have Seamonkey V 2.48 running on 64-bit Windows 10 (v 1703). I just
> upgraded from V 2.46.
>
> A certain internal corporate web page I use no longer works, but only
> when accessed from Seamonkey 2.48 on this system.  On other browsers,
> and from an absolutely clean v2.48 installation on a "virgin" Windows 10
> (v 1703), everything works as before.

Which means it's not a problem with v2.48 in general, but a problem
with your particular install on that machine.
Have you tried running Seamonkey in safe mode?  with a new profile?
with no addons?

Regards,
Lee



> The error page I get seems to come from the server and seems to blame
> the server:
>
>>
>> You are not authorized to view this page
>> You do not have permission to view this directory or page using the
>> credentials you supplied.
>>
>> Please try the following:
>>
>> Click the Refresh button to try again with different credentials.
>> If you believe you should be able to view this directory or page,
>> please contact the Web site administrator by using the e-mail address or
>> phone number listed on the partners.duxburysystems.com home page.
>>
>> HTTP 401.2 - Unauthorized: Logon failed due to server configuration
>> Internet Information Services
>>
>> Technical Information (for support personnel)
>>
>> Background:
>> This is usually caused by a server-side script not sending the proper
>> WWW-Authenticate header field. Using Active Server Pages scripting this is
>> done by using the AddHeader method of the Response object to request that
>> the client use a certain authentication method to access the resource.
>>
>> More information:
>> Microsoft Support
>>
>
> Note that I am not prompted for a login.
>
> ___
> support-seamonkey mailing list
> support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
> https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
>
___
support-seamonkey mailing list
support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey

might some change in 2.48 break some web servers?

[Bob Fleischer]

I have Seamonkey V 2.48 running on 64-bit Windows 10 (v 1703). I just 
upgraded from V 2.46.


A certain internal corporate web page I use no longer works, but only 
when accessed from Seamonkey 2.48 on this system.  On other browsers, 
and from an absolutely clean v2.48 installation on a "virgin" Windows 10 
(v 1703), everything works as before.


The error page I get seems to come from the server and seems to blame 
the server:




You are not authorized to view this page
You do not have permission to view this directory or page using the credentials 
you supplied.

Please try the following:

Click the Refresh button to try again with different credentials.
If you believe you should be able to view this directory or page, please 
contact the Web site administrator by using the e-mail address or phone number 
listed on the partners.duxburysystems.com home page.

HTTP 401.2 - Unauthorized: Logon failed due to server configuration
Internet Information Services

Technical Information (for support personnel)

Background:
This is usually caused by a server-side script not sending the proper 
WWW-Authenticate header field. Using Active Server Pages scripting this is done 
by using the AddHeader method of the Response object to request that the client 
use a certain authentication method to access the resource.

More information:
Microsoft Support



Note that I am not prompted for a login.

___
support-seamonkey mailing list
support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey

Re: Message undelete

[Mason83]

On 27/07/2017 21:21, Rob Steinmetz wrote:
> Daniel wrote:
>> On 27/07/2017 7:33 AM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
>>> Rob Steinmetz wrote:
>>>
 WaltS48 wrote:
> On 7/26/17 12:51 PM, EE wrote:
>> Rob Steinmetz wrote:
>>> Is there a message undelete add on that works with SeaMonkey?
>
>> You can move a message from the trash to another folder.
>
> What do they do if it isn't in the trash?
>
> Is it an email or newsgroup message?
>
 In this case it is an email message that has been moved to another
 folder and the other folder is not showing the message. We're not
 sure what is going on. It may be the folder's index is corrupt and
 can be fixed. or the message may be lost. I was looking for an
 undelete before I tried anything else and lost the messages
 completely.
>>>
>>> First check adjacent folders in the list -- I can't count the number of
>>> times I've dragged and dropped a message into an adjacent folder by
>>> mistake and couldn't find it because it wasn't where I thought I'd put
>>> it.
>>>
>>> Failing that, close SM and delete the .msf (index) file for the folder
>>> in question. When you restart SeaMonkey, it'll build a new one. If the
>>> message appears, you're done. If not, post back; you may be able to
>>> recover it manually from the file but that's complicated.
>>>
>>> In the interim, if SM offers to compact folders, be sure to refuse. If
>>> it does, you'll lose all hope of recovery. And if you have it set to
>>> compact folders automatically without asking, disable that feature.
>>>
>>> Edit | Preferences | Mail & Newsgroups | Network & Storage
>>> [ ] Compact all folders when it will save over nn MB in total
>>>
>> I, also, have dragged and dropped into the wrong folder and had to go
>> looking ... and finding and re-moving to the correct file.
>>
>> Second thing for OP Rob to try . SeaMonkey stores it messages in one
>> file (e.g. inbox, sent, etc) and then has an associated index file (e.g.
>> inbox.msf, sent.msf).
>>
>> If you close SeaMonkey and then delete all the *.msf files, when you
>> re-start SeaMonkey and address each folder in your profile, a new *.msf
>> file will be created for each folder in your profile (e.g. new
>> inbox.msf, sent.msf, whatever.msf, etc.) and, if your missing e-mail is
>> in any of the mail folders, it should show up.
>>
>> Note:because you have not touched the actual files which hold your mail
>> (inbox, sent, whatever, etc), your mail should not be lost!!
>>
> Thanks for All of the suggestions. I'm pretty much aware of all of them.
> 
> In my experience email properly marked as deleted in the MBOX file will 
> not show up if a new index is created. It will show up if the index is 
> somehow corrupt.
> 
> I did find this add on for Thunderbird:
> 
>> RECOVER DELETED MESSAGES: an extension that allows to recover deleted 
>> messages, if the folder has not been compacted yet. To use it, select the 
>> folder, right-click and choose "Recover deleted messages", then follow the 
>> messages in status bar.
>> From the 0.2 version it should be able also to recover deleted messages from 
>> Imap folders, if they're set for offline use.
>> Localized in english and italian.
>> latest: 0.4 version (TB - compatibile 2.0 or higher)
> 
> I was hoping something similar was available for Sea Monkey. I'll 
> probably try to convert it to SeaMonkey and try it out.

Did you try opening the source mbox with a text editor?
If you haven't compacted the mbox, the message should
be there with a tag indicating it is deleted.

Regards.
___
support-seamonkey mailing list
support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey

Re: adblocker in Seamonkey automatically

[Gerd Schweizer]

Steve Dunn schrieb:

On 2017-07-27 09:33, Gerd Schweizer wrote:

Is ist possible, that there is an automatic Adblocker in Seamonkey 1.46?
Why i ask is:
There is a way to get Navi updates from the server of an automobile
firm. Their Website tells me, the download is finished even though
nothing has happened.


No, which is why so many of us use add-ons like Adblock Plus.  But
there's a pop-up blocker, and some download sites require pop-ups for
downloads.  Try turning it off (Edit -> Preferences -> Privacy &
Security -> Popup Windows) and see if that makes a difference.


Than You, Steve
This info i will notice and try it next time, when i'll have to update 
my Navi


--
Liebe Grüße, Gerd
Satelliten FAQ
http://www.satgerd.de
___
support-seamonkey mailing list
support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey

Re: Message filters

[WaltS48]

On 7/28/17 4:13 AM, Steve Rogerson wrote:

Hi Ed, I am not a techy. I don't know what safe mode is and am not sure what 
you mean by a new profile.



Safe Mode 

Profile 
 >SeaMonkey (or Mozilla Suite) users can access the Profile Manager 
from an open program window by selecting "Tools -> Switch Profile..." 
from the menu.


If you do that, select Manage Profiles, Create Profile, Next, then give 
the profile a name (I use test), Finish, select the profile in the list 
of Available Profiles and Use Profile.


You will then have to open the Mail & Newsgroups window and setup your 
mail account, create the folders, create the filters, get email and see 
if the filter works.


--
Go Bucs!
Coexist 
National Popular Vote 
Ubuntu 16.04LTS - Unity Desktop
___
support-seamonkey mailing list
support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey

Re: Message filters

[Daniel]

On 28/07/2017 6:13 PM, Steve Rogerson wrote:

Hi Ed, I am not a techy. I don't know what safe mode is and am not sure what 
you mean by a new profile.

Steve, as we go along, we can add various add-ons to SeaMonkey to make 
it better do what we want. Have a look at Tools->Add-On Manager to see 
if you have installed such things. I currently have about twenty Add Ons 
installed and about ten Extension, all to make SeaMonkey do what I want 
 well, sort of!!


When we install a new version, sometimes there are conflicts. This can 
often be sorted by selecting Help->Restart with Add-Ons disabled. This 
means that when SeaMonkey re-starts, it will just be a Bare-bones 
version of SeaMonkey. If SeaMonkey then works (in its plain vanilla 
mode), then you can turn back on, say, half the Add-Ons and re-start 
SeaMonkey and see if it works. If it does, then enable more Add-Ons and 
re-start SeaMonkey, until you find the dude!!


Alternatively, your problem may be with your profile itself. This can, 
usually, be fixed by producing a new Profile by selecting Tools->Switch 
Profiles and the "Manage Profiles" -> "Create Profile" and follow the 
screens to set up a new Profile.


When you re-start SeaMonkey, it will be using this bare-bones Profile 
and you will need to add those Add-Ons that you require!


HTH

--
Daniel

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:51.0) Gecko/20100101 
SeaMonkey/2.48 Build identifier: 20170329183526

___
support-seamonkey mailing list
support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey

Re: Message filters

[Steve Rogerson]

Hi Ed, I am not a techy. I don't know what safe mode is and am not sure what 
you mean by a new profile.
___
support-seamonkey mailing list
support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey

Re: SM2.48 (Mac) crashed during changing the SM-Apps like email

[Frank-Rainer Grahl]

Do you have a crash id from about:crashes

FRG

Mexx Headrmmm wrote:

Hello,

I downloaded and installed sucessfully SM2.48 from:
https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/releases/2.48/mac/de/

onto iMac with the latest OS-Version (Sierra)

Also the starting of the browser went well... but if I wanna change
to the email-, telefonapp ... I get a cpl. crash of the whole
SeaMonkey .

I tried this with a new profile without any addons and get the same
result as before .

Has anyone a hint or workaround to fix it?

greets
-Markus



___
support-seamonkey mailing list
support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey

Re: SM2.48 (Mac) crashed during changing the SM-Apps like email

[Mexx Headroooommm]

Frank-Rainer Grahl schrieb am 28.07.2017 um 09:56:
> Do you have a crash id from about:crashes
> 
> FRG

I will post when I'll be at home  ;-)

greets
-Markus
___
support-seamonkey mailing list
support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey

SM2.48 (Mac) crashed during changing the SM-Apps like email

[Mexx Headroooommm]

Hello,

I downloaded and installed sucessfully SM2.48 from:
https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/releases/2.48/mac/de/

onto iMac with the latest OS-Version (Sierra)

Also the starting of the browser went well... but if I wanna change
to the email-, telefonapp ... I get a cpl. crash of the whole
SeaMonkey .

I tried this with a new profile without any addons and get the same
result as before .

Has anyone a hint or workaround to fix it?

greets
-Markus
___
support-seamonkey mailing list
support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey