Re: win64 contributed builds.

[Frank-Rainer Grahl]

> Well, got my first crash with this new build:
> 
https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/83db8b72-a57f-4010-8ead-ae2f70170802 



Uninstall Adblock+ 2.9.1. and use 2.8.2. Currently much better anyway. 
Top crasher for Thunderbird too. Some Web extension changes a few weeks 
ago caused this. Fx also crashes now occasionally during shutdown.


FRG

TCW wrote:

On 8/2/2017 5:07 AM, Edmund Wong wrote:

Hi Everyone,

Just wanna mention that I've generated the very first set of
Win64 builds.

I've set up a schedule to generate both 32 and 64 bit nightlies.

But while it's building 2.53, Win64 isn't officially 'contributed'
until (tentatively) 2.54 (which gives us some time to figure the quirks
of Win64 building).

Please do check it out.  At this moment, I would just download
the ZIP file (as opposed to the Installer... unless you're running
it on a spare computer.)

http://archive.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-central-trunk/seamonkey-2.53a1.en-US.win64.zip 



Edmund

PS: Not entirely sure if I generated it right even if the about:support
shows Win64.  So feedback appreciated.  (Getting a bad feeling I
did something wrong...)



Well, got my first crash with this new build: 
https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/83db8b72-a57f-4010-8ead-ae2f70170802 



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IMCOIMPATIBLE!

[wwelvis]

I've had problems all day with opening SM 2.48. It took me literally most of 
the day to figure out what the solution was.

I have a MAC macOS Sierra 10.12.6 and it appears as if SM 2.48 isn't compatible 
with the Mac OS I am on.

To solve this I downloaded SM 2.46 (after saving my PROFILE) and everything 
works fine.

Does anyone know when this will be corrected?
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How to clear 2.48 update available message?

[Rich Gray]

On getting the release notice, I tried to update.  Didn't happen, of course. 
 It went through the motions and failed.  I found out about the need to do 
it manually.  Now I'm running 2.48, but it keeps prompting me to restart to 
install the update.  How do I get rid of the downloaded file/clear the prompt?


Obviously the updater needs a "Dde, where's my update server?" function.

Thanks to the SeaMonkey team for all the effort !!

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Re: SM 2.48 (Win-32) mail client phantom account entry

[User]

WaltS48 wrote on 2017.08.02 18:07:

On 8/2/17 8:53 PM, User wrote:

I recently manually upgraded from SM 2.46 to SM 2.48 by performing a full 2.46
uninstall and then installing the new 2.48. Everything works completely fine
as before when I do all my SM upgrades completely manually by first fully
uninstalling the previous version. However, I noticed a problem with the mail
client section whereby one of my accounts has a PHANTOM account icon appearing
above it and it is not really an actual mail account. Meanwhile, all the mail
filters I have created for an actual real mail account directly below the
phantom account icon, now fails to work, even though otherwise that mail
account works normally. I have some mail filters on the account which moves
INBOX mails to another account in the mail client and when incoming mail fits
the criteria of the mail filters and it tries to perform a move action, it
says that the INBOX of the account is missing and then fails to move the
e-mails and leaves them in the account after move failure. I'm wondering if
anyone else has had such a phantom account icon appear in the mail client
after 2.48 upgrade. I'm currently pondering whether this problem is caused by
the mail filter's logic / action which triggered a new SM mail client bug that
previously didn't exist until 2.48, or simply deleting the mail filters and
recreating them will solve the problem.

I would prefer not to have to move the entire mail accounts e-mail files off
to a temporary folder, delete the entire mail account and then move them back
in to see if the problem will resolve and the phantom account icon disappear.
I can't delete the phantom account either and it appears to be a ghost of the
real account directly below it. I have made a screen capture of this problem
and attached it to this post. For privacy reasons, the details of all the real
mail accounts and newsgroups have been blurred out. However, the phantom mail
account on which the highlight bar is located on, is shown. Only an icon is
show with no annotation on this phantom mail account.



After wasting a couple of hours trying to resolve this problem in SM 2.48 mail
client, I have reverted to version 2.46. This is probably the worst SM mail
client problem I have encountered to date. All previous version upgraded
manually without problems. When in 2.48, I tried to delete the real e-mail
account directly below the phantom account and that did remove the phantom
account. So I thought that the problem was solved. I then recreated the e-mail
account in 2.48 and the phantom account did not appear above it. However,
because my e-mail files for that particular account reside on a folder that is
different from the default mail folder that the mail client uses, I would
change the mail folder path for that account. I then discovered that after
updating this parameter and when SM restarts, the phantom mail account icon
reappeared. Very frustrating.

Furthermore, what's more disturbing is that in the process of deleting the
account and re-creating it, the mail client appears to lose track of and get
confused about which account was deleted, and in fact some other real e-mail
accounts above the phantom account disappeared, even though strangely, when
examining the MAIL AND NEWSGROUP ACCOUNT SETTINGS window, all mail accounts
are still present even though some are NOT displayed in the mail client
itself, therefore there was no way to access the contents of the mail account.

In summary, it appears the phantom mail account icon displayed in the mail
client arises from some confusion of the mail client's tracking of accounts
and their associated mail folder locations. It appears that as soon as a mail
account's file path is updated to the non-default file path, the phantom mail
account appears in the mail client. The reason why I suspect this is related
to the cause of this new bug in SM 2.48 mail client, is because all MAIL
FILTER management window completely loses track of all the available mail
accounts and mail folders, and all existing mail filter rules for the mail
account that is displayed immediately below the phantom mail account, becomes
unavailable to the mail client.

Furthermore, when a mail account is deleted, sometimes the phantom mail
account does not disappear and the phantom account then "plagues" the next
available real mail account below it, and causes the same problem. This issue
and associated problems essentially renders the SM 2.48 mail client risky and
completely unuseable for me. I have over 10 e-mail accounts managed by the
mail client plus half a dozen newsgroups and it's unacceptable that potential
loss of an account can occur because the mail client gets confused about which
account is located where or gets accounts mixed up when deleting accounts and
creating them. I've been forced to go back to SM 2.46 which is completely
stable as far as the mail client goes. This is the very first time I've ever
had any mail client problems 

Re: SM 2.48 (Win-32) mail client phantom account entry

[WaltS48]

On 8/2/17 8:53 PM, User wrote:
I recently manually upgraded from SM 2.46 to SM 2.48 by performing a 
full 2.46 uninstall and then installing the new 2.48. Everything works 
completely fine as before when I do all my SM upgrades completely 
manually by first fully uninstalling the previous version. However, I 
noticed a problem with the mail client section whereby one of my 
accounts has a PHANTOM account icon appearing above it and it is not 
really an actual mail account. Meanwhile, all the mail filters I have 
created for an actual real mail account directly below the phantom 
account icon, now fails to work, even though otherwise that mail account 
works normally. I have some mail filters on the account which moves 
INBOX mails to another account in the mail client and when incoming mail 
fits the criteria of the mail filters and it tries to perform a move 
action, it says that the INBOX of the account is missing and then fails 
to move the e-mails and leaves them in the account after move failure. 
I'm wondering if anyone else has had such a phantom account icon appear 
in the mail client after 2.48 upgrade. I'm currently pondering whether 
this problem is caused by the mail filter's logic / action which 
triggered a new SM mail client bug that previously didn't exist until 
2.48, or simply deleting the mail filters and recreating them will solve 
the problem.


I would prefer not to have to move the entire mail accounts e-mail files 
off to a temporary folder, delete the entire mail account and then move 
them back in to see if the problem will resolve and the phantom account 
icon disappear. I can't delete the phantom account either and it appears 
to be a ghost of the real account directly below it. I have made a 
screen capture of this problem and attached it to this post. For privacy 
reasons, the details of all the real mail accounts and newsgroups have 
been blurred out. However, the phantom mail account on which the 
highlight bar is located on, is shown. Only an icon is show with no 
annotation on this phantom mail account.




After wasting a couple of hours trying to resolve this problem in SM 
2.48 mail client, I have reverted to version 2.46. This is probably the 
worst SM mail client problem I have encountered to date. All previous 
version upgraded manually without problems. When in 2.48, I tried to 
delete the real e-mail account directly below the phantom account and 
that did remove the phantom account. So I thought that the problem was 
solved. I then recreated the e-mail account in 2.48 and the phantom 
account did not appear above it. However, because my e-mail files for 
that particular account reside on a folder that is different from the 
default mail folder that the mail client uses, I would change the mail 
folder path for that account. I then discovered that after updating this 
parameter and when SM restarts, the phantom mail account icon 
reappeared. Very frustrating.


Furthermore, what's more disturbing is that in the process of deleting 
the account and re-creating it, the mail client appears to lose track of 
and get confused about which account was deleted, and in fact some other 
real e-mail accounts above the phantom account disappeared, even though 
strangely, when examining the MAIL AND NEWSGROUP ACCOUNT SETTINGS 
window, all mail accounts are still present even though some are NOT 
displayed in the mail client itself, therefore there was no way to 
access the contents of the mail account.


In summary, it appears the phantom mail account icon displayed in the 
mail client arises from some confusion of the mail client's tracking of 
accounts and their associated mail folder locations. It appears that as 
soon as a mail account's file path is updated to the non-default file 
path, the phantom mail account appears in the mail client. The reason 
why I suspect this is related to the cause of this new bug in SM 2.48 
mail client, is because all MAIL FILTER management window completely 
loses track of all the available mail accounts and mail folders, and all 
existing mail filter rules for the mail account that is displayed 
immediately below the phantom mail account, becomes unavailable to the 
mail client.


Furthermore, when a mail account is deleted, sometimes the phantom mail 
account does not disappear and the phantom account then "plagues" the 
next available real mail account below it, and causes the same problem. 
This issue and associated problems essentially renders the SM 2.48 mail 
client risky and completely unuseable for me. I have over 10 e-mail 
accounts managed by the mail client plus half a dozen newsgroups and 
it's unacceptable that potential loss of an account can occur because 
the mail client gets confused about which account is located where or 
gets accounts mixed up when deleting accounts and creating them. I've 
been forced to go back to SM 2.46 which is completely stable as far as 
the mail client goes. This is the very first time I've 

SM 2.48 (Win-32) mail client phantom account entry

[User]

I recently manually upgraded from SM 2.46 to SM 2.48 by performing a full 2.46 
uninstall and then installing the new 2.48. Everything works completely fine as 
before when I do all my SM upgrades completely manually by first fully 
uninstalling the previous version. However, I noticed a problem with the mail 
client section whereby one of my accounts has a PHANTOM account icon appearing 
above it and it is not really an actual mail account. Meanwhile, all the mail 
filters I have created for an actual real mail account directly below the 
phantom account icon, now fails to work, even though otherwise that mail account 
works normally. I have some mail filters on the account which moves INBOX mails 
to another account in the mail client and when incoming mail fits the criteria 
of the mail filters and it tries to perform a move action, it says that the 
INBOX of the account is missing and then fails to move the e-mails and leaves 
them in the account after move failure. I'm wondering if anyone else has had 
such a phantom account icon appear in the mail client after 2.48 upgrade. I'm 
currently pondering whether this problem is caused by the mail filter's logic / 
action which triggered a new SM mail client bug that previously didn't exist 
until 2.48, or simply deleting the mail filters and recreating them will solve 
the problem.


I would prefer not to have to move the entire mail accounts e-mail files off to 
a temporary folder, delete the entire mail account and then move them back in to 
see if the problem will resolve and the phantom account icon disappear. I can't 
delete the phantom account either and it appears to be a ghost of the real 
account directly below it. I have made a screen capture of this problem and 
attached it to this post. For privacy reasons, the details of all the real mail 
accounts and newsgroups have been blurred out. However, the phantom mail account 
on which the highlight bar is located on, is shown. Only an icon is show with no 
annotation on this phantom mail account.




After wasting a couple of hours trying to resolve this problem in SM 2.48 mail 
client, I have reverted to version 2.46. This is probably the worst SM mail 
client problem I have encountered to date. All previous version upgraded 
manually without problems. When in 2.48, I tried to delete the real e-mail 
account directly below the phantom account and that did remove the phantom 
account. So I thought that the problem was solved. I then recreated the e-mail 
account in 2.48 and the phantom account did not appear above it. However, 
because my e-mail files for that particular account reside on a folder that is 
different from the default mail folder that the mail client uses, I would change 
the mail folder path for that account. I then discovered that after updating 
this parameter and when SM restarts, the phantom mail account icon reappeared. 
Very frustrating.


Furthermore, what's more disturbing is that in the process of deleting the 
account and re-creating it, the mail client appears to lose track of and get 
confused about which account was deleted, and in fact some other real e-mail 
accounts above the phantom account disappeared, even though strangely, when 
examining the MAIL AND NEWSGROUP ACCOUNT SETTINGS window, all mail accounts are 
still present even though some are NOT displayed in the mail client itself, 
therefore there was no way to access the contents of the mail account.


In summary, it appears the phantom mail account icon displayed in the mail 
client arises from some confusion of the mail client's tracking of accounts and 
their associated mail folder locations. It appears that as soon as a mail 
account's file path is updated to the non-default file path, the phantom mail 
account appears in the mail client. The reason why I suspect this is related to 
the cause of this new bug in SM 2.48 mail client, is because all MAIL FILTER 
management window completely loses track of all the available mail accounts and 
mail folders, and all existing mail filter rules for the mail account that is 
displayed immediately below the phantom mail account, becomes unavailable to the 
mail client.


Furthermore, when a mail account is deleted, sometimes the phantom mail account 
does not disappear and the phantom account then "plagues" the next available 
real mail account below it, and causes the same problem. This issue and 
associated problems essentially renders the SM 2.48 mail client risky and 
completely unuseable for me. I have over 10 e-mail accounts managed by the mail 
client plus half a dozen newsgroups and it's unacceptable that potential loss of 
an account can occur because the mail client gets confused about which account 
is located where or gets accounts mixed up when deleting accounts and creating 
them. I've been forced to go back to SM 2.46 which is completely stable as far 
as the mail client goes. This is the very first time I've ever had any mail 
client problems doing 

Re: SeaMonkey 2.48 released!

[mozilla-lists . mbourne]

Daniel wrote:

On 1/08/2017 5:39 AM, Ant wrote:

Are you saying v2.46 and earlier's update checkers are broken? :(
I thought it was a server issue?


Could the problem be that there is no SM 2.47 for SM 2.46 to update
to on it's way to SM 2.48.

I seem to recall, in the dime dark days, where a version was missed,
that some magic had to be done on the server, or wherever, to allow
the Update function to allow skipping a version.


You're probably thinking of the time that the SSL certificate on the 
update server expired and was renewed in the unexpectedly long time 
between one release and the next. When the old version looked for 
updates, it didn't get the certificate it was expecting from the server 
and concluded that something was intercepting your connection and trying 
to trick it into installing something else.


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Re: SeaMonkey 2.48 released!

[mozilla-lists . mbourne]

My understanding (which may be flawed) is basically:
1. SeaMonkey 2.46 checks a server at a particular address to find the 
latest version and therefore whether an update is available
2. That server has been changed and, for whatever reason, now has a 
different address
3. SeaMonkey <= 2.46 does not know about that change, and keeps checking 
the old address
4. It doesn't find any updates, because the server is no longer at that 
address
5. SeaMonkey >= 2.48 has the new address, so once that's installed it 
can find and install future updates [*]
6. See 1 (There's a hole in my bucket... 
)


The only thing "broken" about the update checker in 2.46 is that it 
checks an address which was correct at the time it was released but 
isn't any more.


There might be an about:config entry specifying the address check for 
updates. But that can't be changed automatically without an update to do 
it, so would be a manual change for a one-off update, and would probably 
have to be reset afterwards to avoid the override breaking future 
updates. Probably easiest and safest just to download the full installer 
this one time!


Mark.


Ant via support-seamonkey wrote:

Are you saying v2.46 and earlier's update checkers are broken? :( I
thought it was a server issue?


On 7/31/2017 8:38 AM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

Yeah but how should we put up a message here if updates of the browser
are not working. Chicken and egg :)
FRG

Ant wrote:

No, when using SM's GUI's menu's "Check for Updates" option.

On 7/31/2017 7:31 AM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

Its red and big and I see it :)

Automatic upgrades from previous versions are not working for this

release.

Please download the full installer from the downloads section and
install
SeaMonkey 2.48 manually over the previous version.

FRG






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Re: E MAIL CRASHES ON 2.48

[wwelvis]

On Wednesday, August 2, 2017 at 3:42:27 PM UTC-4, wwe...@gmail.com wrote:
> I have a Mac and just downloaded SM 2.48. The problem is that when I attempt 
> to open an e mail the whole program crashed!
> 
> What can I do to fix this?  Thanks.

Now for unknown reason (after I tried to restart SM) it doesn't even open!!

I'm back to where every time I try to open SM it doesn't open but crashes 
immediately!

What is going on here??
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Reply to David Ross, part 2

[Bea]

I had AVG until about 2 1/2 years ago. I accidentally clicked on a site that 
infected my computer. I took it to Micro Center, who cleaned it up. At the 
tech's suggestion I uninstalled AVG and bought ESET NOD 32. NOD 32 & 
Malwarebytes have worked well since.


Bea
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Re: E MAIL CRASHES ON 2.48

[wwelvis]

On Wednesday, August 2, 2017 at 4:00:29 PM UTC-4, Adrian Kalla wrote:
> 02.08.2017 21:59, Adrian Kalla:
> >  02.08.2017 21:42, wwel...@gmail.com:
> >> I have a Mac and just downloaded SM 2.48. The problem is that when I 
> >> attempt to open an e mail the whole program crashed!
> 
> or... did you mean opening an existing email or creating a new one?

I mean opening either an old one or one that is new!!
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Re: E MAIL CRASHES ON 2.48

[Adrian Kalla]

02.08.2017 21:59, Adrian Kalla:
>  02.08.2017 21:42, wwel...@gmail.com:
>> I have a Mac and just downloaded SM 2.48. The problem is that when I attempt 
>> to open an e mail the whole program crashed!

or... did you mean opening an existing email or creating a new one?
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Re: E MAIL CRASHES ON 2.48

[Adrian Kalla]

 02.08.2017 21:42, wwel...@gmail.com:
> I have a Mac and just downloaded SM 2.48. The problem is that when I attempt 
> to open an e mail the whole program crashed!

This was supposed to be fixed in 2.48...:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1364977

Core bug for this: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1308923
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E MAIL CRASHES ON 2.48

[wwelvis]

I have a Mac and just downloaded SM 2.48. The problem is that when I attempt to 
open an e mail the whole program crashed!

What can I do to fix this?  Thanks.
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Re: How to disable HTML5 auto play?

[Richmond via support-seamonkey]

Steve Dunn  writes:

> On 2017-08-02 08:45, Ray_Net wrote:
>> I had under 2.46 disbabled the auto-play .. AND the result is : When I
>> try to start the video ... NOWAY ! the video would not start - never 
>
> I have the same experience.  If autoplay is disabled, at least some videos
> will not start even when you click play.
>
> I don't believe I have the same problem in Firefox - I have autoplay disabled
> there and yet videos do start when I want them to.  So this undesirable
> behaviour seems to be a Seamonkey thing.

I think sometimes I get around it by moving the pointer forward on the
time line, then it plays, then I go back to the beginning.

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Re: win64 contributed builds.

[TCW]

On 8/2/2017 5:07 AM, Edmund Wong wrote:

Hi Everyone,

Just wanna mention that I've generated the very first set of
Win64 builds.

I've set up a schedule to generate both 32 and 64 bit nightlies.

But while it's building 2.53, Win64 isn't officially 'contributed'
until (tentatively) 2.54 (which gives us some time to figure the quirks
of Win64 building).

Please do check it out.  At this moment, I would just download
the ZIP file (as opposed to the Installer... unless you're running
it on a spare computer.)

http://archive.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-central-trunk/seamonkey-2.53a1.en-US.win64.zip

Edmund

PS: Not entirely sure if I generated it right even if the about:support
shows Win64.  So feedback appreciated.  (Getting a bad feeling I
did something wrong...)



Well, got my first crash with this new build: 
https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/83db8b72-a57f-4010-8ead-ae2f70170802

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Re: Reply to David Ross

[David E. Ross]

On 8/2/2017 10:58 AM, Bea wrote:
> Your instructions on how to uninstall Chrome worked. The notices stopped 
> immediately. Thank you for that.
> 
> 
> AVG isn't on my laptop at all. I currently have  Malwarebytes and a different 
> anti-virus.
> 
> 
> Bea
> 

Hmm.  I guess the headers in your newsgroup message about AVG were
because my own installation of AVG Anti-Virus checked the message.

-- 
David E. Ross


President Trump demands loyalty to himself from Republican members
of Congress.  I always thought that members of Congress -- House
and Senate -- were required to be loyal to the people of the
United States.  In any case, they all swore an oath of office
to be loyal to the Constitution.
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Re: How to disable HTML5 auto play?

[Ray_Net]

Steve Dunn wrote on 02-08-17 19:29:

On 2017-08-02 08:45, Ray_Net wrote:

I had under 2.46 disbabled the auto-play .. AND the result is : When I
try to start the video ... NOWAY ! the video would not start - never 



I have the same experience.  If autoplay is disabled, at least some 
videos will not start even when you click play.

Therefore, I was obliged to set media.autoplay.enabled to true.


I don't believe I have the same problem in Firefox - I have autoplay 
disabled there and yet videos do start when I want them to.  So this 
undesirable behaviour seems to be a Seamonkey thing.


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Re: Is it possible to save draft news messages?

[Ray_Net]

Ray_Net wrote on 02-08-17 20:45:

Dirk Munk wrote on 02-08-17 15:29:

Ant wrote:

On 8/1/2017 7:48 AM, Ray_Net wrote:

Bill Spikowski wrote on 01-08-17 15:39:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Dirk Munk wrote:


I suppose the question is quite clear.

If I compose a normal email message, then it is automatically 
saved in

the Drafts folder, and I can save it there without sending it.

Is there something similar for news messages?


Sure, why not? File | Save As | Draft. It'll show up in the Drafts
folder for whatever account you use to post to the given newsgroup.



I don't have a "Draft" folders in any of my newsgroup accounts. 
When I

save a news message without sending it, it goes into 'local folders';
I can open it from there and post it easily


I think that for news ... the draft folder is under "Local Folders"


Yeah, by default unless the user changed it to somewhere else in 
"Mail & Newsgroups Account Settings".


Yes, that is true. However the message will not be saved is sending 
of the message fails. Even worse, if the message was saved as a draft 
prior to trying to send it, the saved message will also be lost.


Just to do a test, I save this message ... The Draft box of the "Local 
Folders" contain this message... then I cut internet .. then I try to 
send. "***"


The sending failed with my message still on the screen. (and still in 
the Draft box of the "Local Folders" - but with the text before the "***"

I reconnect internet then I send this message.

This is a correct sending now, and the Draft folder is empty.
and a copy of this message is in the "Sent box" of the "Local Folders".

The message is not lost.
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Re: Is it possible to save draft news messages?

[Ray_Net]

Dirk Munk wrote on 02-08-17 15:29:

Ant wrote:

On 8/1/2017 7:48 AM, Ray_Net wrote:

Bill Spikowski wrote on 01-08-17 15:39:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Dirk Munk wrote:


I suppose the question is quite clear.

If I compose a normal email message, then it is automatically 
saved in

the Drafts folder, and I can save it there without sending it.

Is there something similar for news messages?


Sure, why not? File | Save As | Draft. It'll show up in the Drafts
folder for whatever account you use to post to the given newsgroup.



I don't have a "Draft" folders in any of my newsgroup accounts. When I
save a news message without sending it, it goes into 'local folders';
I can open it from there and post it easily


I think that for news ... the draft folder is under "Local Folders"


Yeah, by default unless the user changed it to somewhere else in 
"Mail & Newsgroups Account Settings".


Yes, that is true. However the message will not be saved is sending of 
the message fails. Even worse, if the message was saved as a draft 
prior to trying to send it, the saved message will also be lost.


Just to do a test, I save this message ... The Draft box of the "Local 
Folders" contain this message... then I cut internet .. then I try to 
send. "***"


The sending failed with my message still on the screen. (and still in 
the Draft box of the "Local Folders" - but with the text before the "***"

I reconnect internet then I send this message.
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Re: How to disable HTML5 auto play?

[David E. Ross]

On 8/2/2017 5:29 AM, Desiree wrote:
> I should have stayed on 2.46 as I am seeing a lot of horrible stuff with 
> 2.48.  I won't use a browser where I cannot control HTML5 player and 
> Flash Player.  I would prefer to totally disable HTML5 Player like I had 
> it on earlier versions of SeaMonkey and only use Flash that I have full 
> control over and is a better player.
> 
> Anyhow, HTML5 Player is in full control on this version of SeaMonkey.  I 
> tried looking for SeaMonkey extensions to control its autoplay garbage. 
>   I don't understand why, when I go to Addons site via SeaMonkey/get 
> addons and search for such an extension that what is shown me is stuff 
> for Firefox Android not SeaMonkey browser!
> 
> Is there an extension to stop autoplay of HTML5 in SeaMonkey 2.48?  If 
> not, how do I totally disable HTML5 playback?  I have HTML5 play 
> disabled totally in both Pale Moon and Firefox 45.9 ESR and it wasn't 
> easy to do and I don't know how in SeaMonkey.  I have an extension that 
> forces Flash Player in HD on Youtube instead of the awful HTML5 player 
> there.  But that extension does not work on other websites.
> 

I have the PrefBar and Flashblock extensions.  I do not like PrefBar's
method of blocking Flash; so I created a PrefBar checkbox to enable and
disable Flashblock, with "disable" being the default.

I want to separate the controls of Flash and HTML5 Media.  Thus, I set
the option in Flashblock not to block HTML5 Media.  Then I created a
checkbox in PrefBar to enable and disable HTML5 Media.

As already cited in this thread, the preference variable for enabling
and disabling HTML5 Media (used by my PrefBar checkbox) is
media.autoplay.enabled.  The preference variable for enabling and
disabling Flashblock is flashblock.enabled.

With Flashblock enabled, I am still able to "play" a Flash presentation
merely by selecting the right-pointing triangle in the Flash window.
For HTML5 Media, I generally enable it and then reload the Web page to
"play" the presentation; but I really do not know if reloading is
necessary.

-- 
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of Congress.  I always thought that members of Congress -- House
and Senate -- were required to be loyal to the people of the
United States.  In any case, they all swore an oath of office
to be loyal to the Constitution.
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Reply to David Ross

[Bea]

Your instructions on how to uninstall Chrome worked. The notices stopped 
immediately. Thank you for that.


AVG isn't on my laptop at all. I currently have  Malwarebytes and a different 
anti-virus.


Bea
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Re: How to disable HTML5 auto play?

[Steve Dunn]

On 2017-08-02 08:45, Ray_Net wrote:

I had under 2.46 disbabled the auto-play .. AND the result is : When I
try to start the video ... NOWAY ! the video would not start - never 


I have the same experience.  If autoplay is disabled, at least some 
videos will not start even when you click play.


I don't believe I have the same problem in Firefox - I have autoplay 
disabled there and yet videos do start when I want them to.  So this 
undesirable behaviour seems to be a Seamonkey thing.

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Re: win64 contributed builds.

[TCW]

Ha! Weird that it didn't give a message about cert expiry.

Tried switching themes with mine and it worked. Has a few fixes in which 
are not yet in the tree but shzould not be a win 64 problem.


html5test.com is broken:

Timestamp: 8/2/2017, 5:25:46 PM
Error: api.whichbrowser.net:443 uses an invalid security certificate.

The certificate expired on Wednesday, August 02, 2017, 2:30 PM. The 
current time is Wednesday, August 02, 2017, 5:25 PM.


Error code: title="SEC_ERROR_EXPIRED_CERTIFICATE">SEC_ERROR_EXPIRED_CERTIFICATE



TCW wrote:

On 8/2/2017 5:07 AM, Edmund Wong wrote:

Hi Everyone,

Just wanna mention that I've generated the very first set of
Win64 builds.

I've set up a schedule to generate both 32 and 64 bit nightlies.

But while it's building 2.53, Win64 isn't officially 'contributed'
until (tentatively) 2.54 (which gives us some time to figure the quirks
of Win64 building).

Please do check it out.  At this moment, I would just download
the ZIP file (as opposed to the Installer... unless you're running
it on a spare computer.)

http://archive.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-central-trunk/seamonkey-2.53a1.en-US.win64.zip 



Edmund

PS: Not entirely sure if I generated it right even if the about:support
shows Win64.  So feedback appreciated.  (Getting a bad feeling I
did something wrong...)



Visiting the HTML5 test site, I get a spinning circle and it never 
gives a score.




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Re: win64 contributed builds.

[Frank-Rainer Grahl]

Tried switching themes with mine and it worked. Has a few fixes in which 
are not yet in the tree but shzould not be a win 64 problem.


html5test.com is broken:

Timestamp: 8/2/2017, 5:25:46 PM
Error: api.whichbrowser.net:443 uses an invalid security certificate.

The certificate expired on Wednesday, August 02, 2017, 2:30 PM. The 
current time is Wednesday, August 02, 2017, 5:25 PM.


Error code: title="SEC_ERROR_EXPIRED_CERTIFICATE">SEC_ERROR_EXPIRED_CERTIFICATE



TCW wrote:

On 8/2/2017 5:07 AM, Edmund Wong wrote:

Hi Everyone,

Just wanna mention that I've generated the very first set of
Win64 builds.

I've set up a schedule to generate both 32 and 64 bit nightlies.

But while it's building 2.53, Win64 isn't officially 'contributed'
until (tentatively) 2.54 (which gives us some time to figure the quirks
of Win64 building).

Please do check it out.  At this moment, I would just download
the ZIP file (as opposed to the Installer... unless you're running
it on a spare computer.)

http://archive.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-central-trunk/seamonkey-2.53a1.en-US.win64.zip 



Edmund

PS: Not entirely sure if I generated it right even if the about:support
shows Win64.  So feedback appreciated.  (Getting a bad feeling I
did something wrong...)



Visiting the HTML5 test site, I get a spinning circle and it never gives 
a score.


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Re: win64 contributed builds.

[TCW]

On 8/2/2017 5:07 AM, Edmund Wong wrote:

Hi Everyone,

Just wanna mention that I've generated the very first set of
Win64 builds.

I've set up a schedule to generate both 32 and 64 bit nightlies.

But while it's building 2.53, Win64 isn't officially 'contributed'
until (tentatively) 2.54 (which gives us some time to figure the quirks
of Win64 building).

Please do check it out.  At this moment, I would just download
the ZIP file (as opposed to the Installer... unless you're running
it on a spare computer.)

http://archive.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-central-trunk/seamonkey-2.53a1.en-US.win64.zip

Edmund

PS: Not entirely sure if I generated it right even if the about:support
shows Win64.  So feedback appreciated.  (Getting a bad feeling I
did something wrong...)



The one thing I noticed in testing this build is that theme wonkyness 
happens. I was on Modern and it defaulted to Default theme. When 
switching back to Modern, it hangs and has to be killed in Task Manager. 
After a restart, Modern theme is applied.

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Re: win64 contributed builds.

[TCW]

On 8/2/2017 5:07 AM, Edmund Wong wrote:

Hi Everyone,

Just wanna mention that I've generated the very first set of
Win64 builds.

I've set up a schedule to generate both 32 and 64 bit nightlies.

But while it's building 2.53, Win64 isn't officially 'contributed'
until (tentatively) 2.54 (which gives us some time to figure the quirks
of Win64 building).

Please do check it out.  At this moment, I would just download
the ZIP file (as opposed to the Installer... unless you're running
it on a spare computer.)

http://archive.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-central-trunk/seamonkey-2.53a1.en-US.win64.zip

Edmund

PS: Not entirely sure if I generated it right even if the about:support
shows Win64.  So feedback appreciated.  (Getting a bad feeling I
did something wrong...)



Visiting the HTML5 test site, I get a spinning circle and it never gives 
a score.

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Re: Is it possible to save draft news messages?

[Dirk Munk]

Ant wrote:

On 8/1/2017 7:48 AM, Ray_Net wrote:

Bill Spikowski wrote on 01-08-17 15:39:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Dirk Munk wrote:


I suppose the question is quite clear.

If I compose a normal email message, then it is automatically 
saved in

the Drafts folder, and I can save it there without sending it.

Is there something similar for news messages?


Sure, why not? File | Save As | Draft. It'll show up in the Drafts
folder for whatever account you use to post to the given newsgroup.



I don't have a "Draft" folders in any of my newsgroup accounts. When I
save a news message without sending it, it goes into 'local folders';
I can open it from there and post it easily


I think that for news ... the draft folder is under "Local Folders"


Yeah, by default unless the user changed it to somewhere else in "Mail 
& Newsgroups Account Settings".


Yes, that is true. However the message will not be saved is sending of 
the message fails. Even worse, if the message was saved as a draft prior 
to trying to send it, the saved message will also be lost.


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Re: How to disable HTML5 auto play?

[Frank-Rainer Grahl]

I concur,
just set media.autoplay.enabled to false.

FRG
Ray_Net wrote:

Desiree wrote on 02-08-17 14:29:
I should have stayed on 2.46 as I am seeing a lot of horrible stuff 
with 2.48.  I won't use a browser where I cannot control HTML5 player 
and Flash Player.  I would prefer to totally disable HTML5 Player like 
I had it on earlier versions of SeaMonkey and only use Flash that I 
have full control over and is a better player.


Anyhow, HTML5 Player is in full control on this version of SeaMonkey. 
I tried looking for SeaMonkey extensions to control its autoplay 
garbage.  I don't understand why, when I go to Addons site via 
SeaMonkey/get addons and search for such an extension that what is 
shown me is stuff for Firefox Android not SeaMonkey browser!


Is there an extension to stop autoplay of HTML5 in SeaMonkey 2.48?  If 
not, how do I totally disable HTML5 playback?  I have HTML5 play 
disabled totally in both Pale Moon and Firefox 45.9 ESR and it wasn't 
easy to do and I don't know how in SeaMonkey.  I have an extension 
that forces Flash Player in HD on Youtube instead of the awful HTML5 
player there.  But that extension does not work on other websites.


I had under 2.46 disbabled the auto-play .. AND the result is : When I 
try to start the video ... NOWAY ! the video would not start - never 


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Re: How to disable HTML5 auto play?

[Ray_Net]

Desiree wrote on 02-08-17 14:29:
I should have stayed on 2.46 as I am seeing a lot of horrible stuff 
with 2.48.  I won't use a browser where I cannot control HTML5 player 
and Flash Player.  I would prefer to totally disable HTML5 Player like 
I had it on earlier versions of SeaMonkey and only use Flash that I 
have full control over and is a better player.


Anyhow, HTML5 Player is in full control on this version of SeaMonkey.  
I tried looking for SeaMonkey extensions to control its autoplay 
garbage.  I don't understand why, when I go to Addons site via 
SeaMonkey/get addons and search for such an extension that what is 
shown me is stuff for Firefox Android not SeaMonkey browser!


Is there an extension to stop autoplay of HTML5 in SeaMonkey 2.48?  If 
not, how do I totally disable HTML5 playback?  I have HTML5 play 
disabled totally in both Pale Moon and Firefox 45.9 ESR and it wasn't 
easy to do and I don't know how in SeaMonkey.  I have an extension 
that forces Flash Player in HD on Youtube instead of the awful HTML5 
player there.  But that extension does not work on other websites.


I had under 2.46 disbabled the auto-play .. AND the result is : When I 
try to start the video ... NOWAY ! the video would not start - never 

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.48 released!

[Cruz, Jaime]

Edmund Wong wrote:

Greetings,

After so long a delay, for which we apologize, the SeaMonkey
Project is pleased to announce the release of SeaMonkey 2.48!

So please check out [1] or [2].

This release would not be possible without the help from a lot
of people; but the person I'd like to thank personally is
Nick Thomas.  With his help on the updates issue, I managed
to get over the horkage in the final verification step.  Thanks
Nick!


We cannot repeat this enough.  Thank you everyone for your
patience with us.  This very long delay due to infrastructure
and resource issues has been very trying on a lot of people.

Links:
[1] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.48
[2] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.48/



Very cool.  Just have to wait till it hits the Ubuntuzilla PPA now.  Thanks!

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How to disable HTML5 auto play?

[Desiree]

I should have stayed on 2.46 as I am seeing a lot of horrible stuff with 
2.48.  I won't use a browser where I cannot control HTML5 player and 
Flash Player.  I would prefer to totally disable HTML5 Player like I had 
it on earlier versions of SeaMonkey and only use Flash that I have full 
control over and is a better player.


Anyhow, HTML5 Player is in full control on this version of SeaMonkey.  I 
tried looking for SeaMonkey extensions to control its autoplay garbage. 
 I don't understand why, when I go to Addons site via SeaMonkey/get 
addons and search for such an extension that what is shown me is stuff 
for Firefox Android not SeaMonkey browser!


Is there an extension to stop autoplay of HTML5 in SeaMonkey 2.48?  If 
not, how do I totally disable HTML5 playback?  I have HTML5 play 
disabled totally in both Pale Moon and Firefox 45.9 ESR and it wasn't 
easy to do and I don't know how in SeaMonkey.  I have an extension that 
forces Flash Player in HD on Youtube instead of the awful HTML5 player 
there.  But that extension does not work on other websites.


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Re: win64 contributed builds.

[Frank-Rainer Grahl]

Installer works fine. Writing this message with it (which probably means 
that blank lines in the reply get removed :) )


Checked the builds options and they seem fine too.

FRG

Edmund Wong wrote:

Hi Everyone,

Just wanna mention that I've generated the very first set of
Win64 builds.

I've set up a schedule to generate both 32 and 64 bit nightlies.

But while it's building 2.53, Win64 isn't officially 'contributed'
until (tentatively) 2.54 (which gives us some time to figure the quirks
of Win64 building).

Please do check it out.  At this moment, I would just download
the ZIP file (as opposed to the Installer... unless you're running
it on a spare computer.)

http://archive.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-central-trunk/seamonkey-2.53a1.en-US.win64.zip

Edmund

PS: Not entirely sure if I generated it right even if the about:support
shows Win64.  So feedback appreciated.  (Getting a bad feeling I
did something wrong...)



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Re: win64 contributed builds.

[Frank-Rainer Grahl]

Gret. When testing keep in mind that 2.53 suffers from some regressions:

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1379370

There are others but these are the worst.

Also Send to->Mail recipient from the desktop will crash or close the 
browser. This is a known very old problem also with Thunderbird.


FRG

Edmund Wong wrote:

Hi Everyone,

Just wanna mention that I've generated the very first set of
Win64 builds.

I've set up a schedule to generate both 32 and 64 bit nightlies.

But while it's building 2.53, Win64 isn't officially 'contributed'
until (tentatively) 2.54 (which gives us some time to figure the quirks
of Win64 building).

Please do check it out.  At this moment, I would just download
the ZIP file (as opposed to the Installer... unless you're running
it on a spare computer.)

http://archive.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-central-trunk/seamonkey-2.53a1.en-US.win64.zip

Edmund

PS: Not entirely sure if I generated it right even if the about:support
shows Win64.  So feedback appreciated.  (Getting a bad feeling I
did something wrong...)



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win64 contributed builds.

[Edmund Wong]

Hi Everyone,

Just wanna mention that I've generated the very first set of
Win64 builds.

I've set up a schedule to generate both 32 and 64 bit nightlies.

But while it's building 2.53, Win64 isn't officially 'contributed'
until (tentatively) 2.54 (which gives us some time to figure the quirks
of Win64 building).

Please do check it out.  At this moment, I would just download
the ZIP file (as opposed to the Installer... unless you're running
it on a spare computer.)

http://archive.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-central-trunk/seamonkey-2.53a1.en-US.win64.zip

Edmund

PS: Not entirely sure if I generated it right even if the about:support
shows Win64.  So feedback appreciated.  (Getting a bad feeling I
did something wrong...)
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