Re: Google.com malfunction with SM 2.49.4

2018-09-24 Thread Felix Miata
no...@nonospam.org composed on 2018-09-02 12:07 (UTC-0500):

> Yesterday morning, when I went to google.com, the cursor was displaced 
> to the top of the search box instead of being centered, and as I typed 
> in a search some of the words would spill over to a second line in the 
> search box. This happened only with SM, and it happened on every 
> computer I tried it on.

> Later in the day, the problem disappeared, but today it is back again. I 
> haven't seen this on any other website.

> Why is this only showing up on SM and not on Firefox, IE11, or Edge? Any 
> ideas on how to eliminate it? Thanks!

If you move the box up, making it wider, does the 19 character limit remain?
http://fm.no-ip.com/SS/Moz/sm2-1b3.jpg

No search box problems here (also no FF UA advertising):
Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49.4;
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Re: Google.com malfunction with SM 2.49.4

2018-09-24 Thread marion
On Sunday, September 2, 2018 at 4:00:18 PM UTC-6, no...@nonospam.org wrote:
> Replying to a couple of suggestions from different responders:
> 
> Clearing my cache did not fix this.
> 
> Using the Prefbar add-on, changing my User Agent from SM to Firefox DID 
> fix it. Switching back and forth between the two, it is repeatable.
> 
> Thanks for the suggestions!
> 
> John
> 
> Paul in Houston, TX wrote:
> > Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
> >> http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=3041415&p=14808162#p14808162
> >>  
> >>
> >>
> >> no...@nonospam.org wrote:
> >>> Yesterday morning, when I went to google.com, the cursor was 
> >>> displaced to the top of the
> >>> search box instead of being centered, and as I typed in a search some 
> >>> of the words would
> >>> spill over to a second line in the search box. This happened only 
> >>> with SM, and it
> >>> happened on every computer I tried it on.
> >>>
> >>> Later in the day, the problem disappeared, but today it is back 
> >>> again. I haven't seen
> >>> this on any other website.
> >>>
> >>> Why is this only showing up on SM and not on Firefox, IE11, or Edge? 
> >>> Any ideas on how to
> >>> eliminate it? Thanks!
> >>>
> >>> John
> > 
> > Google has changed a few things in the last few days.
> > IMO, they did initial testing a few weeks ago.
> > My user string does not have your problem in SM on this machine,
> > but the same string in FF on a different machine does what you said.
> > On both machines Google has eliminated the URL that bypasses their
> > "search help" so that now every letter I type gets sent to Google
> > which then suggests search words.  I hate that and their reporting home.
> > 
> > 
> 
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I responded to this asking how to do it. Then later read other posts sending me 
to Prefbar to download. I am Windows 7 using SeaMonkey. Do I download from SM 
or from FF. And after I download, what do I do from there? Thank you but SM 
almost expects users to be Technicians...user since 2007. Also 2.49.4 keeps 
hanging several times every day. I keep having to shut down and re-launch. 
Sometimes I just give up and us FF. I want to keep SM because I have my own 
domain and get my email there. Also many videos won't play in SM and I need to 
go to FF if I want to see them.  Thanks a bunch... mar...@marico.cc
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Re: Google.com malfunction with SM 2.49.4

2018-09-24 Thread marion
On Sunday, September 2, 2018 at 4:00:18 PM UTC-6, no...@nonospam.org wrote:
> Replying to a couple of suggestions from different responders:
> 
> Clearing my cache did not fix this.
> 
> Using the Prefbar add-on, changing my User Agent from SM to Firefox DID 
> fix it. Switching back and forth between the two, it is repeatable.
> 
> Thanks for the suggestions!
> 
> John
> 
> Paul in Houston, TX wrote:
> > Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
> >> http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=3041415&p=14808162#p14808162
> >>  
> >>
> >>
> >> no...@nonospam.org wrote:
> >>> Yesterday morning, when I went to google.com, the cursor was 
> >>> displaced to the top of the
> >>> search box instead of being centered, and as I typed in a search some 
> >>> of the words would
> >>> spill over to a second line in the search box. This happened only 
> >>> with SM, and it
> >>> happened on every computer I tried it on.
> >>>
> >>> Later in the day, the problem disappeared, but today it is back 
> >>> again. I haven't seen
> >>> this on any other website.
> >>>
> >>> Why is this only showing up on SM and not on Firefox, IE11, or Edge? 
> >>> Any ideas on how to
> >>> eliminate it? Thanks!
> >>>
> >>> John
> > 
> > Google has changed a few things in the last few days.
> > IMO, they did initial testing a few weeks ago.
> > My user string does not have your problem in SM on this machine,
> > but the same string in FF on a different machine does what you said.
> > On both machines Google has eliminated the URL that bypasses their
> > "search help" so that now every letter I type gets sent to Google
> > which then suggests search words.  I hate that and their reporting home.
> > 
> > 
> 
> -- 
> Q: What's the quickest way to get a mailbox full of spam?
> A: Post a message in any newsgroup using a real email address.
> 
> Therefore, please reply in this newsgroup. Thank you.

How do you do this?? I am not a techi and really need help. Do I go to tools 
and addons and ask for prefbar. I did this and get a list of toolbars. Should I 
download one of those in my SM? I am mar...@marico.cc ... Thanks so much
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Re: How to change !DOCTYPE in Composer?

2018-09-24 Thread netbeuiguru
On Friday, December 7, 2012 at 11:52:17 AM UTC-6, nima...@gmail.com wrote:
> Op maandag 3 december 2012 10:49:20 UTC+1 schreef Geoff Welsh het volgende:
> > nimant...@gmail.com wrote:
> > 
> > > Hi,
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > I received a webpage in XHTML 1.0 Strict, but Composer doesn't seem
> > 
> > > to recognize XHTML... When I ask the w3c to validate, I get a lot of
> > 
> > > errors, because Composer deems to chop of the / at the end of  > 
> > > ... /> and other statements (, etc.) that need the / in Strict
> > 
> > > XHTML.
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > I then looked at the !DOCTYPE composer puts on new pages: 4.01
> > 
> > > Transitional. I would at least want 4.01 Strict, or why not HTML5?
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > The Page Title and Properties under Format is always greyed out, as
> > 
> > > are most of the options under that tab (I can only use Font, Size,
> > 
> > > Style, Paragraph, List and L/R/C/).
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > !DOCTYPE is unaccessible for modification in any case...
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > Somebody knows how to solve these questions? Thanks!
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > I /think/ development of SM Composer stopped a few years ago.  It was 
> > 
> > continued with the standalone "Nvu" and then "KompoZer", which can 
> > 
> > change the DTD, like you ask, according to
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KompoZer#Standards_compliance
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > GW
> 
> Thanks Geoff,
> 
> I learned also that KompoZer now has forked or somehow became BlueGriffon.
> I succeeded in changing the DOCTYPE, but the html validator of the W3C group 
> finds an error in my charset. Apparently, some windows 1252 has creeped into 
> my files, while I chose ISO 8859-1. Nowhere to find that sticky windows 
> charset code...
> 
> Guy

Had the exact same issue. But BlueGriffon works awesome, thx!
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Re: Google.com malfunction with SM 2.49.4

2018-09-24 Thread WaltS48

On 9/24/18 4:13 PM, twbartender wrote:

I'm also having problems with google.com. Specifically the google search function 
using both Seamonkey version 2.49.3 & the latest version, 2.49.4. When trying 
to type anything in the Google Search Box, it only uses the upper left corner of 
the box, and when you get to 19 characters, the beginning of what was typed becomes 
hidden if what you are trying to ask is longer than the 19 characters. If you copy 
and paste something into the box, only the last 19 characters are visible.

On 9/11/18 I posted my problem on the Google Search Help Forum, found here: 
https://groups.google.com/a/googleproductforums.com/d/msgid/websearch/e4a0cbeb-a533-4b62-b714-fab0ef77e111%40googleproductforums.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer

On 9/16/18 I replied to my own post with an answer to the problem I found by doing more 
digging. It seems that unchecking the "Advertise Firefox compatibility" option 
found in the Seamonkey preferences allows the search box to function as it should: The 
original link to the answer can be found here:
https://productforums.google.com/d/msg/websearch/w6JUJvS5nMw/6QzWOLY_CQAJ

At first all seemed to function as it should until I realized that the actual search page looks different when the 
"Advertise Firefox compatibility" option is unchecked compared to when it's checked. I also found that the 
search settings cannot be changed when the "Advertise Firefox compatibility" option is unchecked. A much 
greater issue I discovered was the fact that when searching for photos with the "Advertise Firefox 
compatibility" option is unchecked, the results page not only shows a page of photos, it also includes a 4 to 5 
line description under each of 20 photos returned from the search. I attempted to find an option to turn off the photo 
descriptions, but the option doesn't exist. The only way to remove the photo descriptions is to re-check the 
"Advertise Firefox compatibility" option. By re-checking the option none of the photos include a description 
under them. Also the search settings functions now works as they should.

This is becoming very frustrating and a real pain in the butt... From what I've learned 
the problem most likely is directly related to the Seamonkey User Agent, but I've been 
unable figure out how to create a user agent string that functions correctly with Google 
Search. With the "Advertise Firefox compatibility" option unchecked seamonkey 
reports my user agent as: User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) 
Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49.4 When the option is checked, the user agent is: User 
agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 
SeaMonkey/2.49.4



Use a user agent string that advertises the browser as Chrome, or the 
built-in DuckDuckGo search.


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Re: Google.com malfunction with SM 2.49.4

2018-09-24 Thread TCW via support-seamonkey

On 9/24/2018 3:13 PM, twbartender wrote:

I'm also having problems with google.com. Specifically the google search function 
using both Seamonkey version 2.49.3 & the latest version, 2.49.4. When trying 
to type anything in the Google Search Box, it only uses the upper left corner of 
the box, and when you get to 19 characters, the beginning of what was typed becomes 
hidden if what you are trying to ask is longer than the 19 characters. If you copy 
and paste something into the box, only the last 19 characters are visible.

On 9/11/18 I posted my problem on the Google Search Help Forum, found here: 
https://groups.google.com/a/googleproductforums.com/d/msgid/websearch/e4a0cbeb-a533-4b62-b714-fab0ef77e111%40googleproductforums.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer

On 9/16/18 I replied to my own post with an answer to the problem I found by doing more 
digging. It seems that unchecking the "Advertise Firefox compatibility" option 
found in the Seamonkey preferences allows the search box to function as it should: The 
original link to the answer can be found here:
https://productforums.google.com/d/msg/websearch/w6JUJvS5nMw/6QzWOLY_CQAJ

At first all seemed to function as it should until I realized that the actual search page looks different when the 
"Advertise Firefox compatibility" option is unchecked compared to when it's checked. I also found that the 
search settings cannot be changed when the "Advertise Firefox compatibility" option is unchecked. A much 
greater issue I discovered was the fact that when searching for photos with the "Advertise Firefox 
compatibility" option is unchecked, the results page not only shows a page of photos, it also includes a 4 to 5 
line description under each of 20 photos returned from the search. I attempted to find an option to turn off the photo 
descriptions, but the option doesn't exist. The only way to remove the photo descriptions is to re-check the 
"Advertise Firefox compatibility" option. By re-checking the option none of the photos include a description 
under them. Also the search settings functions now works as they should.

This is becoming very frustrating and a real pain in the butt... From what I've learned 
the problem most likely is directly related to the Seamonkey User Agent, but I've been 
unable figure out how to create a user agent string that functions correctly with Google 
Search. With the "Advertise Firefox compatibility" option unchecked seamonkey 
reports my user agent as: User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) 
Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49.4 When the option is checked, the user agent is: User 
agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 
SeaMonkey/2.49.4



This something Google changed on their end and it affects Seamonkey.
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Re: Google.com malfunction with SM 2.49.4

2018-09-24 Thread Ant via support-seamonkey
Don't forget to leave a feedback in its 
https://www.google.com/tools/feedback/mobile_feedback_no_login?hl=en&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F&redirect=true&enableAnonymousFeedback=true&pi=196&bt=websearch.


On 9/24/2018 1:13 PM, twbartender wrote:

I'm also having problems with google.com. Specifically the google search function 
using both Seamonkey version 2.49.3 & the latest version, 2.49.4. When trying 
to type anything in the Google Search Box, it only uses the upper left corner of 
the box, and when you get to 19 characters, the beginning of what was typed becomes 
hidden if what you are trying to ask is longer than the 19 characters. If you copy 
and paste something into the box, only the last 19 characters are visible.

On 9/11/18 I posted my problem on the Google Search Help Forum, found here: 
https://groups.google.com/a/googleproductforums.com/d/msgid/websearch/e4a0cbeb-a533-4b62-b714-fab0ef77e111%40googleproductforums.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer

On 9/16/18 I replied to my own post with an answer to the problem I found by doing more 
digging. It seems that unchecking the "Advertise Firefox compatibility" option 
found in the Seamonkey preferences allows the search box to function as it should: The 
original link to the answer can be found here:
https://productforums.google.com/d/msg/websearch/w6JUJvS5nMw/6QzWOLY_CQAJ

At first all seemed to function as it should until I realized that the actual search page looks different when the 
"Advertise Firefox compatibility" option is unchecked compared to when it's checked. I also found that the 
search settings cannot be changed when the "Advertise Firefox compatibility" option is unchecked. A much 
greater issue I discovered was the fact that when searching for photos with the "Advertise Firefox 
compatibility" option is unchecked, the results page not only shows a page of photos, it also includes a 4 to 5 
line description under each of 20 photos returned from the search. I attempted to find an option to turn off the photo 
descriptions, but the option doesn't exist. The only way to remove the photo descriptions is to re-check the 
"Advertise Firefox compatibility" option. By re-checking the option none of the photos include a description 
under them. Also the search settings functions now works as they should.

This is becoming very frustrating and a real pain in the butt... From what I've learned 
the problem most likely is directly related to the Seamonkey User Agent, but I've been 
unable figure out how to create a user agent string that functions correctly with Google 
Search. With the "Advertise Firefox compatibility" option unchecked seamonkey 
reports my user agent as: User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) 
Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49.4 When the option is checked, the user agent is: User 
agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 
SeaMonkey/2.49.4


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Re: Google.com malfunction with SM 2.49.4

2018-09-24 Thread twbartender
I'm also having problems with google.com. Specifically the google search 
function using both Seamonkey version 2.49.3 & the latest version, 2.49.4. When 
trying to type anything in the Google Search Box, it only uses the upper left 
corner of the box, and when you get to 19 characters, the beginning of what was 
typed becomes hidden if what you are trying to ask is longer than the 19 
characters. If you copy and paste something into the box, only the last 19 
characters are visible.

On 9/11/18 I posted my problem on the Google Search Help Forum, found here: 
https://groups.google.com/a/googleproductforums.com/d/msgid/websearch/e4a0cbeb-a533-4b62-b714-fab0ef77e111%40googleproductforums.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer

On 9/16/18 I replied to my own post with an answer to the problem I found by 
doing more digging. It seems that unchecking the "Advertise Firefox 
compatibility" option found in the Seamonkey preferences allows the search box 
to function as it should: The original link to the answer can be found here:
https://productforums.google.com/d/msg/websearch/w6JUJvS5nMw/6QzWOLY_CQAJ

At first all seemed to function as it should until I realized that the actual 
search page looks different when the "Advertise Firefox compatibility" option 
is unchecked compared to when it's checked. I also found that the search 
settings cannot be changed when the "Advertise Firefox compatibility" option is 
unchecked. A much greater issue I discovered was the fact that when searching 
for photos with the "Advertise Firefox compatibility" option is unchecked, the 
results page not only shows a page of photos, it also includes a 4 to 5 line 
description under each of 20 photos returned from the search. I attempted to 
find an option to turn off the photo descriptions, but the option doesn't 
exist. The only way to remove the photo descriptions is to re-check the 
"Advertise Firefox compatibility" option. By re-checking the option none of the 
photos include a description under them. Also the search settings functions now 
works as they should.

This is becoming very frustrating and a real pain in the butt... From what I've 
learned the problem most likely is directly related to the Seamonkey User 
Agent, but I've been unable figure out how to create a user agent string that 
functions correctly with Google Search. With the "Advertise Firefox 
compatibility" option unchecked seamonkey reports my user agent as: User agent: 
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49.4 
When the option is checked, the user agent is: User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows 
NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.4

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Re: memory leak

2018-09-24 Thread meagain

 Original Message 

On 9/21/2018 10:49 AM, meagain wrote:

rawstory.com seems to put SM into a memory leak. Anyone else see this?



Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (x64)
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101
SeaMonkey/2.49.4

I do not see this problem.  Often, such problems are caused by faulty
scripts in the Web pages, especially in delivering advertisements.  I
have JavaScript enabled, but I also use AdBlock Plus to suppress most
advertisements.



Agreed: it seems to be the ads, videos that keep running when 
off-screen, scripts, and pop-ups that just keep adding memory.

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