Re: eBay LogIn Screen Not Displaying Correctly - SM 2.49.4 W10 Pro Lenovo T460P

[Paul in Houston, TX]

bo1953 wrote:

Paul in Houston, TX wrote:

bo1953 wrote:

Paul in Houston, TX wrote:

bo1953 wrote:

Hello all,

New challenge for the week.

Having challenges displaying the eBay login screen correctly.

I only get a blank page with the eBay logo and Norton, upon
clicking the
logo I Am returned to the front splash page for eBay which displays
correctly.

Happening for the last week or so.

My desktop the display is just fine at the login page as well as with
Chrome on the laptop.

Suggestions/recommendations?

I have tried UA and no change in behaviour.

TIA - bo1953


Turn off Norton and see if you can log in.



piH - I have Avast and did turn that off and still the same result, not
able to get the login screen.

When I referenced Norton, it is on eBay's site which has the Norton
logo...

Any other ideas?

Thank you - bo1953


I can't find a reference to Norton on any of the Ebay pages.
Are you using www.ebay.com  ?

Try safe mode.
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Safe_Mode#Starting_Safe_Mode

For SeaMonkey, one of these:
 seamonkey -safe-mode
 "C:\Program Files\SeaMonkey\seamonkey.exe" -safe-mode
 "C:\Program Files (x86)\SeaMonkey\seamonkey.exe" -safe-mode



p - I see it on the page you link me to, it is at the very bottom on the
right side of the page.

On the near blank screen, I see eBay in the upper left side of the page
and Norton at the bottom of the page is Norton on the right side.

Thank you again.


Found the Norton!
Do other browsers work correctly?
I'm sure you have scanned for bad things.
Did anything suspicious pop up?
The htm attachment on your other post instantly crashes my SM.

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re: Fix for incorrect google search box

[Paul Bergsagel]

mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote:
As mentioned here several times before, I find Google services (at least 
search and maps) work best in SeaMonkey with "Advertise Firefox 
Compatibility" disabled, and exhibit those sort of issues with text 
input and menus when it's enabled.


Thanks. Disabling "advertise Firefox compatibility" restored the normal 
Google search box.


To turn off "Advertise Firefox compatibility" go to 
Preferences->advanced->Http Networking.  Uncheck "advertise Firefox 
compatibility".

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Re: Browsing in Wary Puppy 5.5

[Paul Bergsagel]

Daniel wrote:

martinlant...@gmail.com wrote on 15/03/2019 5:58 AM:

Hello, Recently ive installed PuppyLinux Wary 5.5 on my Pentium 3 Pc.
I'm new with it. Now i used the standard Seamonkey browser to try
visit YouTube. But i can't reach the site because of outdated
software it seems.

Whatsapp should i do? Can i Just intall a newer version Seamonkey or
update it?

Would like to hear how to make it all work.

Martin


NOTE: The OP is asking for a SeaMonkey that works on a Pentium 3 PC,
i.e. maybe twenty years old tech!!

Does any (current'ish) SeaMonkey work on that vintage tech?? Should OP
try a Mozilla Suite, maybe??
Very likely there is ma version of SeaMonkey that will work on a Pentium 
3 PC.  Although if  the version of SeaMonkey is too old very likely 
websites will not render correctly or at all.

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Re: Seamonkey uses too much memory

[jrp]

On Fri, 15 Mar 2019 15:23:15 -0700, "David E. Ross"
 in mozilla.support.seamonkey wrote:

>On 3/15/2019 8:54 AM, j...@comcast.com wrote:
>> This morning, in less than 3 hours of running, Seamonkey had taken over
>> 2.5 gig of memory and was climbing.  About 8 tabs were open -- including 4
>> for the application FACEBOOK.  
>> 
>> It had frozen and was past the point of graceful shutdown though i might
>> have been able to do that with about 30 minutes work.  (I have before)
>> 
>> Is there a way to make it use less memory?  If so, what would it be?
>> 
>> 
>
>The amount of memory used by any browser reflect the following:
>*  how many tabs are open
>*  how complex are the Web pages
>*  what scripts are running in the Web pages
>*  what extensions are active
>
>You had FOUR tabs open just of Facebook!  Did you really need all four?
>How much memory is required if you have only one tab for Facebook and no
>tabs for anything else?  How much memory is required if you have four
>tabs open but none of them are for Facebook?  Were any of your tabs
>streaming a video or sound?
>
>I do not use Facebook, so I cannot test what happens with tabs open to
>Facebook.  With two tabs open to Web pages that automicatically update,
>however, I just launched a YouTube streaming video of Tchaikovsky's
>Violin Concerto; the memory requirement immediately doubled (but still
>less than 260 MB).


Let me splain that.  
I do not often use the main Facebook "newsfeed".
I use groups.  I am probably an active member of a dozen or so.

When i opened Usenet there were three groups available on my "subscribed"
main page.

I use faceook much the same way as i used Usednet for many years previous

The four tabs were 3 groups and my notifications.

(Glad to see someone besides my self who likes classical music -- through
the night i listen to KUSC or KDFC or any of several other choices i have
marked for bluetooth streaming)

Try this by Ravel for a few moments relaxation --
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKkeDqJBlK8 


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Re: eBay LogIn Screen Not Displaying Correctly - SM 2.49.4 W10 Pro Lenovo T460P

[bo1953]

Paul in Houston, TX wrote:

bo1953 wrote:

Paul in Houston, TX wrote:

bo1953 wrote:

Hello all,

New challenge for the week.

Having challenges displaying the eBay login screen correctly.

I only get a blank page with the eBay logo and Norton, upon clicking 
the

logo I Am returned to the front splash page for eBay which displays
correctly.

Happening for the last week or so.

My desktop the display is just fine at the login page as well as with
Chrome on the laptop.

Suggestions/recommendations?

I have tried UA and no change in behaviour.

TIA - bo1953


Turn off Norton and see if you can log in.



piH - I have Avast and did turn that off and still the same result, not
able to get the login screen.

When I referenced Norton, it is on eBay's site which has the Norton 
logo...


Any other ideas?

Thank you - bo1953


I can't find a reference to Norton on any of the Ebay pages.
Are you using www.ebay.com  ?

Try safe mode.
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Safe_Mode#Starting_Safe_Mode

For SeaMonkey, one of these:
     seamonkey -safe-mode
     "C:\Program Files\SeaMonkey\seamonkey.exe" -safe-mode
     "C:\Program Files (x86)\SeaMonkey\seamonkey.exe" -safe-mode


p - I see it on the page you link me to, it is at the very bottom on the 
right side of the page.


On the near blank screen, I see eBay in the upper left side of the page 
and Norton at the bottom of the page is Norton on the right side.


Thank you again.
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Re: eBay LogIn Screen Not Displaying Correctly - SM 2.49.4 W10 Pro Lenovo T460P

[Paul in Houston, TX]

bo1953 wrote:

Paul in Houston, TX wrote:

bo1953 wrote:

Hello all,

New challenge for the week.

Having challenges displaying the eBay login screen correctly.

I only get a blank page with the eBay logo and Norton, upon clicking the
logo I Am returned to the front splash page for eBay which displays
correctly.

Happening for the last week or so.

My desktop the display is just fine at the login page as well as with
Chrome on the laptop.

Suggestions/recommendations?

I have tried UA and no change in behaviour.

TIA - bo1953


Turn off Norton and see if you can log in.



piH - I have Avast and did turn that off and still the same result, not
able to get the login screen.

When I referenced Norton, it is on eBay's site which has the Norton logo...

Any other ideas?

Thank you - bo1953


I can't find a reference to Norton on any of the Ebay pages.
Are you using www.ebay.com  ?

Try safe mode.
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Safe_Mode#Starting_Safe_Mode

For SeaMonkey, one of these:
seamonkey -safe-mode
"C:\Program Files\SeaMonkey\seamonkey.exe" -safe-mode
"C:\Program Files (x86)\SeaMonkey\seamonkey.exe" -safe-mode


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Re: eBay LogIn Screen Not Displaying Correctly - SM 2.49.4 W10 Pro Lenovo T460P

[bo1953]

Paul in Houston, TX wrote:

bo1953 wrote:

Hello all,

New challenge for the week.

Having challenges displaying the eBay login screen correctly.

I only get a blank page with the eBay logo and Norton, upon clicking the
logo I Am returned to the front splash page for eBay which displays
correctly.

Happening for the last week or so.

My desktop the display is just fine at the login page as well as with
Chrome on the laptop.

Suggestions/recommendations?

I have tried UA and no change in behaviour.

TIA - bo1953


Turn off Norton and see if you can log in.


piH - I have Avast and did turn that off and still the same result, not 
able to get the login screen.


When I referenced Norton, it is on eBay's site which has the Norton logo...

Any other ideas?

Thank you - bo1953
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Re: Seamonkey uses too much memory

[David E. Ross]

On 3/15/2019 8:54 AM, j...@comcast.com wrote:
> This morning, in less than 3 hours of running, Seamonkey had taken over
> 2.5 gig of memory and was climbing.  About 8 tabs were open -- including 4
> for the application FACEBOOK.  
> 
> It had frozen and was past the point of graceful shutdown though i might
> have been able to do that with about 30 minutes work.  (I have before)
> 
> Is there a way to make it use less memory?  If so, what would it be?
> 
> 

The amount of memory used by any browser reflect the following:
*   how many tabs are open
*   how complex are the Web pages
*   what scripts are running in the Web pages
*   what extensions are active

You had FOUR tabs open just of Facebook!  Did you really need all four?
How much memory is required if you have only one tab for Facebook and no
tabs for anything else?  How much memory is required if you have four
tabs open but none of them are for Facebook?  Were any of your tabs
streaming a video or sound?

I do not use Facebook, so I cannot test what happens with tabs open to
Facebook.  With two tabs open to Web pages that automicatically update,
however, I just launched a YouTube streaming video of Tchaikovsky's
Violin Concerto; the memory requirement immediately doubled (but still
less than 260 MB).

-- 
David E. Ross

Pharmaceutical companies claim their drug prices are
so high because they have to recover the costs of developing
those drugs.  Two questions:

1.  Why is the U.S. paying the entire cost of development while
prices for the same drugs in other nations are much lower?

2.  Manufacturers of generic drugs did not have those
development costs.  Why are they charging so much for generics?
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Re: Youtube full-screen doesnot work if I correct the google searchbox problem

[mozilla-lists . mbourne]

Ray_Net wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bM7SZ5SBzyY

Is OK using FireFox 65.0.2

Is not OK using SeaMonkey:
- when general.useragent.override is Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; 
WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/63.0

But OK using SeaMonkey:
- when general.useragent.override is Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; 
WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.1


Works fine for me with:
Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49.4

That's the default user-agent with "Advertise Firefox Compatibility" 
disabled - includes SeaMonkey but no mention of Firefox.


I use general.useragent.override is Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; 
rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/63.0
to be able to have the google search input text box with the characters 
normal and centered.


If I use general.useragent.override is Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; 
WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.1
the characters are small and located in the upper part like 
superscripted characters.


As mentioned here several times before, I find Google services (at least 
search and maps) work best in SeaMonkey with "Advertise Firefox 
Compatibility" disabled, and exhibit those sort of issues with text 
input and menus when it's enabled.



So I have to choice:
Good Google search box correct and full-screen not working
or
Full-screen working but Google search box BAD.


Clicking the button to expand that YouTube video to full-screen also 
works for me with "Advertise Firefox Compatibility" disabled. With that 
option enabled, it goes into full-screen display, but the video doesn't 
expand to fill the screen.


At least for Google and Youtube, the solution is probably to use a 
user-agent string which includes SeaMonkey but NOT Firefox. Some other 
sites break if Firefox is not mentioned though, so in general there's no 
user-agent string which works for everything.


Site-specific user-agent overrides can be useful. In about:config, set 
"general.useragent.site_specific_overrides" to "true", then for domains 
you need to override, create a string preference named 
"general.useragent.override." with the value you want to be 
presented to that site.


For example, I've added:
  general.useragent.override.bbc.co.uk
set to:
  Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 
SeaMonkey/2.49.3
to make something work correctly on the BBC's website (don't recall what 
it was now).


When encountering a site which needs a different user-agent from my 
default, I usually start off trying different global overrides to find 
one which works in order:
1) SeaMonkey and Firefox, with the Firefox version matching my SeaMonkey 
version (same as you'd get from enabling "Advertise Firefox 
Compatibility"). That way, sites which use the user-agent to determine 
whether newer Firefox features are available shouldn't try using 
features not actually present in my version of SeaMonkey.

2) The same Firefox versions but without the SeaMonkey part.
3) Sometimes claiming a newer Firefox version works, but usually the 
exact version doesn't make any real difference.


For a one-off or occasional visit, it's not worth setting up 
site-specific overrides (just change the default when necessary and 
change it back when done). For sites I visit frequently, having found a 
user-agent string which works, then I then reset the global override to 
default, and set a site specific override for the domain. If that 
doesn't work, it may need a bit of investigation to work out which other 
domains it loads from which need the same override. Fortunately I don't 
often find it necessary to override the user-agent on sites I visit 
frequently - I only have 4 set up, all of them set to the string used if 
"Advertise Firefox Compatibility" was enabled.


One of the downsides is remembering to update the versions in the 
overrides after updating SeaMonkey - looks like I haven't updated that 
one for bbc.co.uk since installing SeaMonkey 2.49.4 - although again it 
doesn't generally matter unless something specifically refuses to work 
with outdated versions.


--
Mark.

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Re: eBay LogIn Screen Not Displaying Correctly - SM 2.49.4 W10 Pro Lenovo T460P

[Paul in Houston, TX]

bo1953 wrote:

Hello all,

New challenge for the week.

Having challenges displaying the eBay login screen correctly.

I only get a blank page with the eBay logo and Norton, upon clicking the
logo I Am returned to the front splash page for eBay which displays
correctly.

Happening for the last week or so.

My desktop the display is just fine at the login page as well as with
Chrome on the laptop.

Suggestions/recommendations?

I have tried UA and no change in behaviour.

TIA - bo1953


Turn off Norton and see if you can log in.


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eBay LogIn Screen Not Displaying Correctly - SM 2.49.4 W10 Pro Lenovo T460P

[bo1953]

Hello all,

New challenge for the week.

Having challenges displaying the eBay login screen correctly.

I only get a blank page with the eBay logo and Norton, upon clicking the 
logo I Am returned to the front splash page for eBay which displays 
correctly.


Happening for the last week or so.

My desktop the display is just fine at the login page as well as with 
Chrome on the laptop.


Suggestions/recommendations?

I have tried UA and no change in behaviour.

TIA - bo1953
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Re: Mail Folders SM 2.49.4 W 10Pro DeskTop

[bo1953]

bo1953 wrote:

Hello all,

I Am trying to figure out what has happened to my Folders and 
sub-Folders in three (3) of my eight (8) accounts...


This occurred after W10 update, all programs were closed.

Any guidance or recommendations on how to recover, etc...

Yes, I did not back up as I recently created these profiles which was 
most likely the best time to do an initial back up...  ;-(


TIA - bo1953


What I did, as a first course of action was to check the disk for errors 
and that worked, to a great degree because the mail accounts which were 
not all that important did not resolve, the major ones did and I Am a 
happy camper.


Working on getting everything backed up by copying the folders and 
tucking them safe elsewhere on the drive.


Thank you all for your input.

bo1953
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Youtube full-screen doesnot work if I correct the google searchbox problem

[Ray_Net]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bM7SZ5SBzyY

Is OK using FireFox 65.0.2

Is not OK using SeaMonkey:
- when general.useragent.override is Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; 
WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/63.0

But OK using SeaMonkey:
- when general.useragent.override is Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; 
WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.1



I use general.useragent.override is Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; 
rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/63.0
to be able to have the google search input text box with the characters 
normal and centered.


If I use general.useragent.override is Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; 
WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.1
the characters are small and located in the upper part like 
superscripted characters.


So I have to choice:
Good Google search box correct and full-screen not working
or
Full-screen working but Google search box BAD.
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Seamonkey uses too much memory

[jrp]

This morning, in less than 3 hours of running, Seamonkey had taken over
2.5 gig of memory and was climbing.  About 8 tabs were open -- including 4
for the application FACEBOOK.  

It had frozen and was past the point of graceful shutdown though i might
have been able to do that with about 30 minutes work.  (I have before)

Is there a way to make it use less memory?  If so, what would it be?


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Re: Browsing in Wary Puppy 5.5

[Don Spam's Reckless Son]

WaltS48 wrote:

On 3/14/19 3:11 PM, David H. Durgee wrote:

martinlant...@gmail.com wrote:

Hello,
Recently ive installed PuppyLinux Wary 5.5 on my Pentium 3 Pc. I'm 
new with it.

Now i used the standard Seamonkey browser to try visit YouTube.
But i can't reach the site because of outdated software it seems.

Whatsapp should i do? Can i Just intall a newer version Seamonkey or 
update it?


Would like to hear how to make it all work.

Martin



What version ships with your distro?  Current release is 2.49.4 and can
be downloaded from the seamonkey website for manual installation.  If
your distro is a debian or ubuntu derivative you can add ubuntuzilla to
your repositories to install it.

Dave



As far as I know, no distro ships SeaMonkey anymore.

For a 32-bit operating system you have to download.

.

For a 64-bit SeaMonkey they need the contributed build.





1 - Opensuse ships with Seamonkey, although they did leave it out a 
release or two back because of problems around then.

2 - Best of luck making 64-bit software run on a Pentium III.

Wary Puppy 5.5 is 6 years old, it had "T2 binary compatability" 
(whatever that is) http://puppylinux.com/family-tree.html


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