Re: SeaMonkey retaining Login/Form Data after it's deleted
Rob Steinmetz wrote on 23/10/2019 6:23 AM: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Richard Alan wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Rob Steinmetz wrote: I've gone into the Data Manager and deleted all information on that domain including logins, cookies and other data. ... Try clearing their cookies. That may be how they remember you. It appears he's already done that. Perhaps. Or he might've just looked at the Permissions tab and overlooked the Cookies tab. FWIW, I prefer the old UI over the Data Manager: I've cleared all Cookies for that domain. the Permissions and Preferences tabs are grayed out. I even went into the Form Data tab and deleted all instances of that user name. I've looked everywhere I can think of for any setting that I can delete. About the only thing I haven't tried is removing SeaMonkey and reinstalling it. I'm not sure that would do anything unless I also deleted my profile as well and I've got too much stuff I need in it. (Cut and Paste for thread flow ) Just for completeness, Rob, have you tried a completely new Profile?? Tools->Switch Profiles->Manage Profiles. This would give you a new, clean, Profile without effecting your production profile?? -- Daniel User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49.5 Build identifier: 20190609032134 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey retaining Login/Form Data after it's deleted
rob wrote: The site is Southwest.com I can change the IP address and test that. Simply restarting the machine probably won't force a new IP as DHCP (which this machine uses) tries to assign the same IP address every time. I have changed the Gateway address recently. It is possible that logins are handled by a third domain, but I'm not sure how to figure out which one except deleting all cookies, which I might do. On my machine, which clears all cookies at every session end and whenever I clear private data as I just did, it's easy to see what site sets cookies. When I visit southwest.com, I get eight cookies from southwest.com and one from www.southwest.com. That's it. If I click "Enroll," that increases to 11 and four, respectively, but no new sites appear. I obviously haven't tested what happens after I log in, since I don't have an account. I don't think it's the MAC address because if I login using a different browser on the same machine it doesn't force that user. I haven't found a "forget me" button. At this point while I used SeaMonkey for most things I have Chrome, Firefox and Edge on the machine. I just use a different browser for Southwest.com. A valid workaround, I guess, but an inconvenient one. Good for the rest of us to know to avoid "Remember me" buttons. ;-\ -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey retaining Login/Form Data after it's deleted
The site is Southwest.com I can change the IP address and test that. Simply restarting the machine probably won't force a new IP as DHCP (which this machine uses) tries to assign the same IP address every time. I have changed the Gateway address recently. It is possible that logins are handled by a third domain, but I'm not sure how to figure out which one except deleting all cookies, which I might do. I don't think it's the MAC address because if I login using a different browser on the same machine it doesn't force that user. I haven't found a "forget me" button. At this point while I used SeaMonkey for most things I have Chrome, Firefox and Edge on the machine. I just use a different browser for Southwest.com. Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Rob Steinmetz wrote: I've cleared all Cookies for that domain. the Permissions and Preferences tabs are grayed out. I even went into the Form Data tab and deleted all instances of that user name. I've looked everywhere I can think of for any setting that I can delete. About the only thing I haven't tried is removing SeaMonkey and reinstalling it. I'm not sure that would do anything unless I also deleted my profile as well and I've got too much stuff I need in it. Well, I hate to say this, but it's beginning to look like the site is remembering you on its own server, not in your browser. If so, it's probably recognizing you by your IP address. You could test that by trying to log in with a different browser. If that theory holds up... 1) Can you log in with the persistent username and change the setting to "forget me"? 2) Can you change your IP address (if you have a dynamic IP, restarting the computer would probably do the trick) so it thinks you're a random stranger? On the other hand, if it's recognizing you by your MAC address, you can't change that, so you'll have to log in with a different device to implement option 1). HTHAL -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey retaining Login/Form Data after it's deleted
It's possible there is a third domain involved, but I'm not sure how to figure out which one. I suppose I could delete all cookies and live with the inconvenience for a while. Nuno Silva wrote: On 2019-10-22, Rob Steinmetz wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Rob Steinmetz wrote: I've gone into the Data Manager and deleted all information on that domain including logins, cookies and other data. ... Try clearing their cookies. That may be how they remember you. [...] I've cleared all Cookies for that domain. the Permissions and Preferences tabs are grayed out. I even went into the Form Data tab and deleted all instances of that user name. I've looked everywhere I can think of for any setting that I can delete. About the only thing I haven't tried is removing SeaMonkey and reinstalling it. I'm not sure that would do anything unless I also deleted my profile as well and I've got too much stuff I need in it. Any chance the login is being handled through a different domain for which you still have cookies? The network tab in the devtools inspector (right click -> "Inspect this element") might help seeing which servers are being contacted through the login process. -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey retaining Login/Form Data after it's deleted
On 2019-10-22, Rob Steinmetz wrote: >>> Paul B. Gallagher wrote: >>> Rob Steinmetz wrote: > I've gone into the Data Manager and deleted all information on that > domain including logins, cookies and other data. ... Try clearing their cookies. That may be how they remember you. [...] > I've cleared all Cookies for that domain. the Permissions and > Preferences tabs are grayed out. I even went into the Form Data tab > and deleted all instances of that user name. > > I've looked everywhere I can think of for any setting that I can delete. > > About the only thing I haven't tried is removing SeaMonkey and > reinstalling it. I'm not sure that would do anything unless I also > deleted my profile as well and I've got too much stuff I need in it. Any chance the login is being handled through a different domain for which you still have cookies? The network tab in the devtools inspector (right click -> "Inspect this element") might help seeing which servers are being contacted through the login process. -- Nuno Silva ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey retaining Login/Form Data after it's deleted
Rob Steinmetz wrote: I've cleared all Cookies for that domain. the Permissions and Preferences tabs are grayed out. I even went into the Form Data tab and deleted all instances of that user name. I've looked everywhere I can think of for any setting that I can delete. About the only thing I haven't tried is removing SeaMonkey and reinstalling it. I'm not sure that would do anything unless I also deleted my profile as well and I've got too much stuff I need in it. Well, I hate to say this, but it's beginning to look like the site is remembering you on its own server, not in your browser. If so, it's probably recognizing you by your IP address. You could test that by trying to log in with a different browser. If that theory holds up... 1) Can you log in with the persistent username and change the setting to "forget me"? 2) Can you change your IP address (if you have a dynamic IP, restarting the computer would probably do the trick) so it thinks you're a random stranger? On the other hand, if it's recognizing you by your MAC address, you can't change that, so you'll have to log in with a different device to implement option 1). HTHAL -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey retaining Login/Form Data after it's deleted
I've asked about one problem, which it hasn't been answered, and I'm receiving lots of answers about toher topics. What's that...!? *Jordi Borràs Alabern* (Manresa, Barcelona, Catalunya/Catalonia) Missatge de Rob Steinmetz del dia dt., 22 d’oct. 2019 a les 21:25: > I've cleared all Cookies for that domain. the Permissions and > Preferences tabs are grayed out. I even went into the Form Data tab and > deleted all instances of that user name. > > I've looked everywhere I can think of for any setting that I can delete. > > About the only thing I haven't tried is removing SeaMonkey and > reinstalling it. I'm not sure that would do anything unless I also > deleted my profile as well and I've got too much stuff I need in it. > > Paul B. Gallagher wrote: > > Richard Alan wrote: > > > >> Paul B. Gallagher wrote: > >> > >>> Rob Steinmetz wrote: > I've gone into the Data Manager and deleted all information on that > domain including logins, cookies and other data. ... > >>> > >>> Try clearing their cookies. That may be how they remember you. > >> > >> It appears he's already done that. > > > > Perhaps. Or he might've just looked at the Permissions tab and > > overlooked the Cookies tab. > > > > FWIW, I prefer the old UI over the Data Manager: > > > > > > ___ > support-seamonkey mailing list > support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org > https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey > ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey retaining Login/Form Data after it's deleted
I've cleared all Cookies for that domain. the Permissions and Preferences tabs are grayed out. I even went into the Form Data tab and deleted all instances of that user name. I've looked everywhere I can think of for any setting that I can delete. About the only thing I haven't tried is removing SeaMonkey and reinstalling it. I'm not sure that would do anything unless I also deleted my profile as well and I've got too much stuff I need in it. Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Richard Alan wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Rob Steinmetz wrote: I've gone into the Data Manager and deleted all information on that domain including logins, cookies and other data. ... Try clearing their cookies. That may be how they remember you. It appears he's already done that. Perhaps. Or he might've just looked at the Permissions tab and overlooked the Cookies tab. FWIW, I prefer the old UI over the Data Manager: ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Next unofficial 2.53.1 needs a new Lightning version
surferjoe...@gmail.com wrote: Il giorno martedì 22 ottobre 2019 15:23:06 UTC+2, Frank-Rainer Grahl ha scritto: Francesco wrote: Il giorno venerdì 18 ottobre 2019 16:48:59 UTC+2, Frank-Rainer Grahl ha scritto: If you don't run the unofficial 2.53.1 you can stop reading. FRG Hello, yeah, maybe some more details would help.. you're right. Basically calendar page is stuck on the current month without any possibility to change it, and with no calendar events. Anyway, i removed the old extension and only after that installed the new one and now everything is ok. Thanks Hmm. It is now a packed extension too. Suspect the old unpacked is not completly removed when updating. Looks like something for the release info page. FRG ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey retaining Login/Form Data after it's deleted
Richard Alan wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Rob Steinmetz wrote: I've gone into the Data Manager and deleted all information on that domain including logins, cookies and other data. ... Try clearing their cookies. That may be how they remember you. It appears he's already done that. Perhaps. Or he might've just looked at the Permissions tab and overlooked the Cookies tab. FWIW, I prefer the old UI over the Data Manager: -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey retaining Login/Form Data after it's deleted
Paul B. Gallagher wrote: > Rob Steinmetz wrote: >> I've gone into the Data Manager and deleted all information on that >> domain including logins, cookies and other data. ... > > Try clearing their cookies. That may be how they remember you. It appears he's already done that. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey retaining Login/Form Data after it's deleted
Rob Steinmetz wrote: Seamonkey 2.49.5 I have a problem with a website that insists on using one users login. I originally clicked on the "Remember Me" box, now I can't get SeaMonkey forget that user and I can't login to that site with any other user. It keeps trying to use the one user and even when I put in the correct password it fails. I've gone into the Data Manager and deleted all information on that domain including logins, cookies and other data. There does not appear to be any form data saved. The problem persists after restarting the computer. This appears to be related to this profile and SeaMonkey, other users and other Browsers can access the site. Thanks for your help. Try clearing their cookies. That may be how they remember you. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
SeaMonkey retaining Login/Form Data after it's deleted
Seamonkey 2.49.5 I have a problem with a website that insists on using one users login. I originally clicked on the "Remember Me" box, now I can't get SeaMonkey forget that user and I can't login to that site with any other user. It keeps trying to use the one user and even when I put in the correct password it fails. I've gone into the Data Manager and deleted all information on that domain including logins, cookies and other data. There does not appear to be any form data saved. The problem persists after restarting the computer. This appears to be related to this profile and SeaMonkey, other users and other Browsers can access the site. Thanks for your help. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Next unofficial 2.53.1 needs a new Lightning version
Hartmut Figge a tapoté le 22/10/2019 16:35:
> Yamo':
>
>> I have in extension folder :
>>
>> mod...@themes.mozilla.org.xpi
>> {972ce4c6-7e08-4474-a285-3208198ce6fd}.xpi (small xpi)
>
> These are in seamonkey/extensions, but you need to look in
> /seamonkey/distribution/extensions. ;)
>
Thanks, I didn't know this directory!
It worked!!
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Re: Next unofficial 2.53.1 needs a new Lightning version
Il giorno martedì 22 ottobre 2019 15:23:06 UTC+2, Frank-Rainer Grahl ha scritto: > Francesco wrote: > > Il giorno venerdì 18 ottobre 2019 16:48:59 UTC+2, Frank-Rainer Grahl ha > > scritto: > >> If you don't run the unofficial 2.53.1 you can stop reading. > >> > >> The next version 10/18 or later needs an updated Lightning. It is as always > >> distributed with it and located in > >> > > > > I tried by manually updating the xpi file. It installs the update but the > > extension doesn't work. > > I had to go back to previous version of Seamonkey. > > What happens if i remove the extension and then update Seamonkey? Do i > > loose all calendar data? > > Thanks for the work you're doin'! > > > > Define not working. Did you pick the xpi form the distribution/extensions > folder and install it over the current one? If this doesn't work please > uninstall first. Should not remove your data but to be safe backup your > profile before. > > FRG Hello, yeah, maybe some more details would help.. you're right. Basically calendar page is stuck on the current month without any possibility to change it, and with no calendar events. Anyway, i removed the old extension and only after that installed the new one and now everything is ok. Thanks ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Next unofficial 2.53.1 needs a new Lightning version
Hartmut Figge:
>Yamo':
>
>>I have in extension folder :
>>
>>mod...@themes.mozilla.org.xpi
>>{972ce4c6-7e08-4474-a285-3208198ce6fd}.xpi (small xpi)
>
>These are in seamonkey/extensions, but you need to look in
>/seamonkey/distribution/extensions. ;)
^
Without this /
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Re: Next unofficial 2.53.1 needs a new Lightning version
Yamo':
>I have in extension folder :
>
>mod...@themes.mozilla.org.xpi
>{972ce4c6-7e08-4474-a285-3208198ce6fd}.xpi (small xpi)
These are in seamonkey/extensions, but you need to look in
/seamonkey/distribution/extensions. ;)
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Re: Next unofficial 2.53.1 needs a new Lightning version
Hi,
Frank-Rainer Grahl a tapoté le 22/10/2019 15:23:
> Define not working. Did you pick the xpi form the distribution/extensions
Where is this xpi?
I don't have it.
I have in extension folder :
mod...@themes.mozilla.org.xpi
{972ce4c6-7e08-4474-a285-3208198ce6fd}.xpi (small xpi)
> folder and install it over the current one? If this doesn't work please
> uninstall first. Should not remove your data but to be safe backup your
> profile before.
Is this version will work ?
Thanks for your work.
If I want lightning I will use and old seamonkey...
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Re: Next unofficial 2.53.1 needs a new Lightning version
Francesco wrote: Il giorno venerdì 18 ottobre 2019 16:48:59 UTC+2, Frank-Rainer Grahl ha scritto: If you don't run the unofficial 2.53.1 you can stop reading. The next version 10/18 or later needs an updated Lightning. It is as always distributed with it and located in I tried by manually updating the xpi file. It installs the update but the extension doesn't work. I had to go back to previous version of Seamonkey. What happens if i remove the extension and then update Seamonkey? Do i loose all calendar data? Thanks for the work you're doin'! Define not working. Did you pick the xpi form the distribution/extensions folder and install it over the current one? If this doesn't work please uninstall first. Should not remove your data but to be safe backup your profile before. FRG ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Next unofficial 2.53.1 needs a new Lightning version
Il giorno venerdì 18 ottobre 2019 16:48:59 UTC+2, Frank-Rainer Grahl ha scritto:
> If you don't run the unofficial 2.53.1 you can stop reading.
>
> The next version 10/18 or later needs an updated Lightning. It is as always
> distributed with it and located in
>
> distribution\extensions\{e2fda1a4-762b-4020-b5ad-a41df1933103}.xpi
>
> We updated the version to 5.8.1 so you can see if it is installed.
> Unfortunately because of a bug in the extension manager (or some mozilla new
> feature removals) it will not auto update itself.
>
> Please either pick the xpi manually and update or remove the old version and
> then use about:config to remove the key
> extensions.installedDistroAddon.{e2fda1a4-762b-4020-b5ad-a41df1933103} if
> present.
>
> When you restart the new version should be installed then.
>
> Sorry for the breaking change but we wanted some new js intl api feature in
> before the first 2.53.1 Beta. Initially only stable in 56 anyway so it won't
> break older add-ons.
>
> FRG
I tried by manually updating the xpi file. It installs the update but the
extension doesn't work.
I had to go back to previous version of Seamonkey.
What happens if i remove the extension and then update Seamonkey? Do i loose
all calendar data?
Thanks for the work you're doin'!
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Re: Google search messed up
Mike C a écrit : And yes, I have version 2.49.4 Windows 10 pro Mike C wrote: Google search is messed up in SM browser. Normally the cursor sits in the center of the Google window for me to enter a search request. Now it's sitting up at the top of the window, over the top line of the box. And if more than 18 letters some letters disappear. TotalSpoof extention ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
