Re: Not able to send messages.

2020-04-08 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

Frog wrote:

I did as you suggested with the same old results...mt test message 
didn't leave my computer.  Here is the window that I edited:


SMTP Server

Description:  My complete Verizon Email Address was already in this box.

Server Name: smtp.verizon.net

Port:   465 Default:    465

Security and Authentication

Connection security:  SSL/TLS

Authentication method: Normal password

User Name: Was the first part of my email address up to the @ was 
changed to my complete email address.


OK    Cancel    Help


I have a verizon.net address, which I chose to retain two years ago when 
AOL began servicing the account (the other option was to accept the 
corresponding aol.com address). My settings are the same as yours, and 
they haven't stopped working (just tested).


Under Tools | Password Manager, enter "verizon" in the search pane at 
top left and you should see an entry called "verizon.net" containing:


mailbox://mail.verizon.net (mailbox://mail.verizon.net)  prefix
smtp://smtp.verizon.net (smtp://smtp.verizon.net)  prefix
smtp://smtp.verizon.net (smtp://smtp.verizon.net)  prefix.verizon.net

where "prefix" is the part of your email address before the "@" sign. 
I'm assuming you told SeaMonkey to remember your passwords; if not 
you'll have to enter your incoming and outgoing mail passwords for every 
transaction.


If you click "Show Passwords" at the bottom right, all three should have 
the same password. Tech support will probably be unable to tell you your 
personal mail password, but if you can retrieve mail for this account, 
use that password (the one listed for "mailbox"). Case-sensitive, of course.


SM's normal behavior when authentication fails (when a password is 
rejected by the server) is to prompt you to enter a new password or 
retry with the existing one. If it's not doing that, you can force it to 
do so by deleting the smtp entry in Password Manager and then trying to 
send mail from that account. When it prompts you, be sure to check the 
box telling SM to remember your password so it will create a new entry 
like the one you just deleted.


HTH

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Re: SM 2.53.1 and SM 2.49.5

2020-04-08 Thread Frank-Rainer Grahl

Ant wrote:

On 4/7/2020 3:15 PM, Ray Davison wrote:
...

The short answer is; absolutely.
All you need to manage SM is a little knowledge of sub-directory structure 
and copy.


Wait. Older SM versions (e.g., v2.49.5) can read newer SM versions (v2.53.1)'s 
datas like places.sqlite? :O


No his answer is from a parallel universe where all this works. If 2.49.5 sees 
the 2.53 places.sqlite it will move it to places.sqlite.corrupt and restore 
bookmarks from the latest json backup. All history is gone then. favicon 
storing changed in Firefox / Gecko 55 and caused this change. Indexdb starage 
is also incomapatible and so on.


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Re: Not able to send messages.

2020-04-08 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

Last night, I wrote:

Under Tools | Password Manager, enter "verizon" in the search pane at 
top left and you should see an entry called "verizon.net" containing:


mailbox://mail.verizon.net (mailbox://mail.verizon.net)  prefix
smtp://smtp.verizon.net (smtp://smtp.verizon.net)  prefix
smtp://smtp.verizon.net (smtp://smtp.verizon.net)  prefix.verizon.net


Obviously, the last one should read "pre...@verizon.net"; sorry about 
the typo.


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How to set Seamonkey as the default e-mail app/tool/client in Windows 10

2020-04-08 Thread d . e . r . b
In the versions previous to 2.3.5.1 it was possible to choose and set Seamonkey 
as the default e-mail app/tool/client in Windows 10. But when opening the 
default apps settings in Windows Seamonkey mail is not available anymore.

Is there any workaround?

RB
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Re: How to set Seamonkey as the default e-mail app/tool/client in Windows 10

2020-04-08 Thread Thomas Pamin

d.e@mail.pcom.de wrote:

In the versions previous to 2.3.5.1 it was possible to choose and set Seamonkey 
as the default e-mail app/tool/client in Windows 10. But when opening the 
default apps settings in Windows Seamonkey mail is not available anymore.

Is there any workaround?

RB


I have SM email set as the default in Windows 10.
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Re: Not able to send messages.

2020-04-08 Thread WaltS48

On 4/8/20 12:08 AM, Frog wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:


Wow! SeaMonkey 2.531. I missed a few versions. ;)

Go to your Verizon accounts SMTP settings in Outgoing Server(SMTP) 
Settings.

Click Edit.
Add the complete email address in the User Name: field.

Seems to be a problem since yesterday.


Thanks Walts48 for your response.

I did as you suggested with the same old results...mt test message 
didn't leave my computer.  Here is the window that I edited:




SMPT Server

Description:  My complete Verizon Email Address was already in this box.

Aerver Name: smtp.verizon.net

Port:   465 Default:    465

Security and Authentication

Connection security:  SSL/TLS

Authentication method: Normal password

User Name: Was the first part of my email address up to the @ was 
changed to my complete email address.


OK    Cancel    Help


I hope that I made the change as you suggested.


Frog







Looks good to me. It is what works in my Thunderbird's.

Did you get a password prompt, entered the password and still can't send 
an email?


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Re: How to set Seamonkey as the default e-mail app/tool/client in Windows 10

2020-04-08 Thread Don Spam's Reckless Son

d.e@mail.pcom.de wrote:

In the versions previous to 2.3.5.1 it was possible to choose and set Seamonkey 
as the default e-mail app/tool/client in Windows 10. But when opening the 
default apps settings in Windows Seamonkey mail is not available anymore.

Is there any workaround?

RB


I must admit I don't understand the concept.
If you have your email accounts set up in Seamonkey and Seamonkey is 
open, it will contact the email servers and retrieve anything they have 
to offer.  If Seamonkey is not open then neither it nor any other 
program is going to do this.
If you want to write - or reply to - a mail then you hit "Compose" or 
"Reply" and away you go.
I have one Windows 10 machine which I permit to handle mails and I have 
absolutely no idea what the system default is, or even if one exists.


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Re: Not able to send messages.

2020-04-08 Thread Frog

WaltS48 wrote:

On 4/8/20 12:08 AM, Frog wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:


Wow! SeaMonkey 2.531. I missed a few versions. ;)

Go to your Verizon accounts SMTP settings in Outgoing Server(SMTP) 
Settings.

Click Edit.
Add the complete email address in the User Name: field.

Seems to be a problem since yesterday.


Thanks Walts48 for your response.

I did as you suggested with the same old results...mt test message 
didn't leave my computer.  Here is the window that I edited:




SMPT Server

Description:  My complete Verizon Email Address was already in this box.

Aerver Name: smtp.verizon.net

Port:   465 Default:    465

Security and Authentication

Connection security:  SSL/TLS

Authentication method: Normal password

User Name: Was the first part of my email address up to the @ was 
changed to my complete email address.


OK    Cancel    Help


I hope that I made the change as you suggested.


Frog







Looks good to me. It is what works in my Thunderbird's.

Did you get a password prompt, entered the password and still can't send 
an email?


Yes, I did get the password prompt request and I did enter my 
password---same results.


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Re: Not able to send messages.

2020-04-08 Thread WaltS48

On 4/8/20 9:11 AM, Frog wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 4/8/20 12:08 AM, Frog wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:


Wow! SeaMonkey 2.531. I missed a few versions. ;)

Go to your Verizon accounts SMTP settings in Outgoing Server(SMTP) 
Settings.

Click Edit.
Add the complete email address in the User Name: field.

Seems to be a problem since yesterday.


Thanks Walts48 for your response.

I did as you suggested with the same old results...mt test message 
didn't leave my computer.  Here is the window that I edited:




SMPT Server

Description:  My complete Verizon Email Address was already in this box.

Aerver Name: smtp.verizon.net

Port:   465 Default:    465

Security and Authentication

Connection security:  SSL/TLS

Authentication method: Normal password

User Name: Was the first part of my email address up to the @ was 
changed to my complete email address.


OK    Cancel    Help


I hope that I made the change as you suggested.


Frog







Looks good to me. It is what works in my Thunderbird's.

Did you get a password prompt, entered the password and still can't 
send an email?


Yes, I did get the password prompt request and I did enter my 
password---same results.




Try a new profile.

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Re: Not able to send messages.

2020-04-08 Thread Don Spam's Reckless Son

Frog wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 4/8/20 12:08 AM, Frog wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:


Wow! SeaMonkey 2.531. I missed a few versions. ;)

Go to your Verizon accounts SMTP settings in Outgoing Server(SMTP) 
Settings.

Click Edit.
Add the complete email address in the User Name: field.

Seems to be a problem since yesterday.


Thanks Walts48 for your response.

I did as you suggested with the same old results...mt test message 
didn't leave my computer.  Here is the window that I edited:




SMPT Server

Description:  My complete Verizon Email Address was already in this box.

Aerver Name: smtp.verizon.net

Port:   465 Default:    465

Security and Authentication

Connection security:  SSL/TLS

Authentication method: Normal password

User Name: Was the first part of my email address up to the @ was 
changed to my complete email address.


OK    Cancel    Help


I hope that I made the change as you suggested.


Frog







Looks good to me. It is what works in my Thunderbird's.

Did you get a password prompt, entered the password and still can't 
send an email?


Yes, I did get the password prompt request and I did enter my 
password---same results.




Try port 587 which is STARTTLS, I saw that in a site telling people how 
to use Thunderbird with AOL.  If that does not work then you fall back 
to 465 = SSL/TLS, which is what the other similar sites were suggesting.
I have several accounts and the split is 50% : 50% between the two 
variations.


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Re: High CPU usage

2020-04-08 Thread flyguy

Danny Kile wrote on 4/7/2020 9:36 AM:

flyguy wrote:

Why does this site take SM from 20% CPU usage to 60%? Chrome is almost 
unaffected.

https://www.alternet.org/2020/04/leading-psychologists-explain-how-trumps-self-delusions-and-narcissism-make-him-uniquely-effective-at-predatory-deception/ 



SeaMonkey CPU usage is 8% to 15%. My UA is Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; 
rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/60.0.


You may want to disable any add-on or try SM in safe mode. Or perhaps upgrade your 
version of SM.


I am using Adblock Plus, disabled for the alternet.org site. If I select "disable 
everywhere", the cpu usage goes from 60% to 40-50%. Disable the extension and cpu 
usage goes to ~20%; closing the alternet.org tab takes it to ~8%.


So, something about the alternet.org site makes SM 2.49.4 busy, having Adblock 
enabled makes SM very busy, even if it's disabled for that site. That seems odd. 
Should I be using a different adblocker? Or just disable it for troublesome sites?

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Re: Single mouse click acts like double click

2020-04-08 Thread Mike C

New mouse fixed it (I think, lets hope).
And it was happening in other places.

Mike C wrote:

Whoops...
Problem started again.
Switched to a corded Logitech I had laying around.
Don't know how long I've had it, BUT it looks like new.

I'll let you know in a few days if problem is cured.

Mike C

David E. Ross wrote:

On 4/5/2020 4:49 PM, Mike C wrote:

I unplugged it and re-plugged it.
WOW! That fixed it (SMILE)

Thanks David


David E. Ross wrote:

On 4/5/2020 10:39 AM, Mike C wrote:

On SM 2.49 mail a single mouse click acts like a double click.
This ONLY happens on SM Mail.

Anyone ever hear of this?



The only times I had this happen, the mouse was at the early stage of
failing.

If it is a wireless mouse, try changing the battery.  If it is a wired
mouse, try unplugging and then plugging it back again.  Also, if the
mouse can be opened, try cleaning inside.





Your mouse might still be in the early stages of dying.  If the problem
occurs again, replace the mouse.

I think I am on my third mouse with my current PC.  When the first one
died -- and it was truly dead -- I told my wife that I had a dead mouse.
  She screamed!  She though I had a dead rodent.

My second mouse did not last very long.  I forget what brand it was.

I noticed that my wife had her original PC mouse from about 2010.  It
was a wired Logitech (model SA-28A, no longer available).  I got a wired
Logitech in 2014 (model M100, still available and Logitech's least
expensive).  My wife still has her original 10-year-old mouse, and my
6-year-old mouse is still good.

Note that I too have a wired mouse.  I really do not want to deal with
batteries going dead, especially if I have no replacement battery on
hand.  Today, with stay-at-home orders, I do not want to leave the house
to buy a new mouse battery.





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Re: How to set Seamonkey as the default e-mail app/tool/client in Windows 10

2020-04-08 Thread Lemuel Johnson via support-seamonkey

On 4/8/2020 6:55 AM, d.e@mail.pcom.de wrote:

In the versions previous to 2.3.5.1 it was possible to choose and set Seamonkey 
as the default e-mail app/tool/client in Windows 10. But when opening the 
default apps settings in Windows Seamonkey mail is not available anymore.

Is there any workaround?

RB



On my Windows 10 system Seamonkey is listed as an option for default 
mail app, along with Mail, Windows Live Mail, Google Chrome(??) and 
"Look for an app in the Microsoft Store".  No workaround needed.


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Re: High CPU usage

2020-04-08 Thread Danny Kile

flyguy wrote:

Danny Kile wrote on 4/7/2020 9:36 AM:

flyguy wrote:
Why does this site take SM from 20% CPU usage to 60%? Chrome is 
almost unaffected.


https://www.alternet.org/2020/04/leading-psychologists-explain-how-trumps-self-delusions-and-narcissism-make-him-uniquely-effective-at-predatory-deception/ 



SeaMonkey CPU usage is 8% to 15%. My UA is Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 
6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/60.0.


You may want to disable any add-on or try SM in safe mode. Or perhaps 
upgrade your version of SM.


I am using Adblock Plus, disabled for the alternet.org site. If I select 
"disable everywhere", the cpu usage goes from 60% to 40-50%. Disable the 
extension and cpu usage goes to ~20%; closing the alternet.org tab takes 
it to ~8%.


So, something about the alternet.org site makes SM 2.49.4 busy, having 
Adblock enabled makes SM very busy, even if it's disabled for that site. 
That seems odd. Should I be using a different adblocker? Or just disable 
it for troublesome sites?


I'm using AdBlock Plus 2.7.3, what version of AdBlock Plus are you using?
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Re: Not able to send messages.

2020-04-08 Thread Frog

Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:

Frog wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 4/8/20 12:08 AM, Frog wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:


Wow! SeaMonkey 2.531. I missed a few versions. ;)

Go to your Verizon accounts SMTP settings in Outgoing Server(SMTP) 
Settings.

Click Edit.
Add the complete email address in the User Name: field.

Seems to be a problem since yesterday.


Thanks Walts48 for your response.

I did as you suggested with the same old results...mt test message 
didn't leave my computer.  Here is the window that I edited:




SMPT Server

Description:  My complete Verizon Email Address was already in this 
box.


Aerver Name: smtp.verizon.net

Port:   465 Default:    465

Security and Authentication

Connection security:  SSL/TLS

Authentication method: Normal password

User Name: Was the first part of my email address up to the @ was 
changed to my complete email address.


OK    Cancel    Help


I hope that I made the change as you suggested.


Frog







Looks good to me. It is what works in my Thunderbird's.

Did you get a password prompt, entered the password and still can't 
send an email?


Yes, I did get the password prompt request and I did enter my 
password---same results.




Try port 587 which is STARTTLS, I saw that in a site telling people how 
to use Thunderbird with AOL.  If that does not work then you fall back 
to 465 = SSL/TLS, which is what the other similar sites were suggesting.
I have several accounts and the split is 50% : 50% between the two 
variations.


I changed the port number to 587 as you suggested...the default remained 
465.  I attempted so send myself a message with the same results.  I 
then (leaving the change in place) decided to change the Server Name 
from smpt.verizon.net to smpt.aol.com.  I tried to send an email test 
message to myself.  It appeared that the message was sent...the message 
never showed up in my inbox.  I decided at this point to restore things 
back to the original setting pending conformation of my actions.


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Re: Not able to send messages.

2020-04-08 Thread Don Spam's Reckless Son

Frog wrote:

Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:

Frog wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 4/8/20 12:08 AM, Frog wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:


Wow! SeaMonkey 2.531. I missed a few versions. ;)

Go to your Verizon accounts SMTP settings in Outgoing Server(SMTP) 
Settings.

Click Edit.
Add the complete email address in the User Name: field.

Seems to be a problem since yesterday.


Thanks Walts48 for your response.

I did as you suggested with the same old results...mt test message 
didn't leave my computer.  Here is the window that I edited:




SMPT Server

Description:  My complete Verizon Email Address was already in this 
box.


Aerver Name: smtp.verizon.net

Port:   465 Default:    465

Security and Authentication

Connection security:  SSL/TLS

Authentication method: Normal password

User Name: Was the first part of my email address up to the @ was 
changed to my complete email address.


OK    Cancel    Help


I hope that I made the change as you suggested.


Frog







Looks good to me. It is what works in my Thunderbird's.

Did you get a password prompt, entered the password and still can't 
send an email?


Yes, I did get the password prompt request and I did enter my 
password---same results.




Try port 587 which is STARTTLS, I saw that in a site telling people 
how to use Thunderbird with AOL.  If that does not work then you fall 
back to 465 = SSL/TLS, which is what the other similar sites were 
suggesting.
I have several accounts and the split is 50% : 50% between the two 
variations.


I changed the port number to 587 as you suggested...the default remained 
465.  I attempted so send myself a message with the same results.  I 
then (leaving the change in place) decided to change the Server Name 
from smpt.verizon.net to smpt.aol.com.  I tried to send an email test 
message to myself.  It appeared that the message was sent...the message 
never showed up in my inbox.  I decided at this point to restore things 
back to the original setting pending conformation of my actions.


It looks like I got things backward, if you set "Connection security" to 
STARTTLS then the Port gets set to 587 automatically.  Setting it back 
to SSL/TLS reverts to 465.  That may be irrelevant if you managed to 
send a message successfully, do you have another victim you could send a 
message to and then ask if they got it?
Assuming you have managed to work out if you can send messages or not, 
you can start looking at the input side of things.  I sent you a long 
response to your mozilla.general post a day or so, if you can't retrieve 
messages you could have a look at that.
I have several email addresses so it is a lot easier to check what is 
not working.


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Re: Not able to send messages.

2020-04-08 Thread Frog

Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:

Frog wrote:

Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:

Frog wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 4/8/20 12:08 AM, Frog wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:


Wow! SeaMonkey 2.531. I missed a few versions. ;)

Go to your Verizon accounts SMTP settings in Outgoing 
Server(SMTP) Settings.

Click Edit.
Add the complete email address in the User Name: field.

Seems to be a problem since yesterday.


Thanks Walts48 for your response.

I did as you suggested with the same old results...mt test message 
didn't leave my computer.  Here is the window that I edited:




SMPT Server

Description:  My complete Verizon Email Address was already in 
this box.


Aerver Name: smtp.verizon.net

Port:   465 Default:    465

Security and Authentication

Connection security:  SSL/TLS

Authentication method: Normal password

User Name: Was the first part of my email address up to the @ was 
changed to my complete email address.


OK    Cancel    Help


I hope that I made the change as you suggested.


Frog







Looks good to me. It is what works in my Thunderbird's.

Did you get a password prompt, entered the password and still can't 
send an email?


Yes, I did get the password prompt request and I did enter my 
password---same results.




Try port 587 which is STARTTLS, I saw that in a site telling people 
how to use Thunderbird with AOL.  If that does not work then you fall 
back to 465 = SSL/TLS, which is what the other similar sites were 
suggesting.
I have several accounts and the split is 50% : 50% between the two 
variations.


I changed the port number to 587 as you suggested...the default 
remained 465.  I attempted so send myself a message with the same 
results.  I then (leaving the change in place) decided to change the 
Server Name from smpt.verizon.net to smpt.aol.com.  I tried to send an 
email test message to myself.  It appeared that the message was 
sent...the message never showed up in my inbox.  I decided at this 
point to restore things back to the original setting pending 
conformation of my actions.


It looks like I got things backward, if you set "Connection security" to 
STARTTLS then the Port gets set to 587 automatically.  Setting it back 
to SSL/TLS reverts to 465.  That may be irrelevant if you managed to 
send a message successfully, do you have another victim you could send a 
message to and then ask if they got it?
Assuming you have managed to work out if you can send messages or not, 
you can start looking at the input side of things.  I sent you a long 
response to your mozilla.general post a day or so, if you can't retrieve 
messages you could have a look at that.
I have several email addresses so it is a lot easier to check what is 
not working.


I made the change you suggested (i.e. Changing the "Connection security" 
to STARTTLS and the port numbers changed to 587" as you said they would.
I tried to send another test message and nothing happened.  I then 
changed the Server Name from smpt.verizon.net to smpt.aol.com. and tried 
to send a message...and nothing at all happened.  I then changed every 
thing back to the original settings.


Yes, I did receive your earlier message and will be taking a look at it 
next.


I continue to be very appreciative of your help...thank you very much.

Frog

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Re: High CPU usage

2020-04-08 Thread flyguy

Danny Kile wrote on 4/8/2020 7:31 AM:

flyguy wrote:

Danny Kile wrote on 4/7/2020 9:36 AM:

flyguy wrote:
Why does this site take SM from 20% CPU usage to 60%? Chrome is almost 
unaffected.


https://www.alternet.org/2020/04/leading-psychologists-explain-how-trumps-self-delusions-and-narcissism-make-him-uniquely-effective-at-predatory-deception/ 



SeaMonkey CPU usage is 8% to 15%. My UA is Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; 
rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/60.0.


You may want to disable any add-on or try SM in safe mode. Or perhaps upgrade 
your version of SM.


I am using Adblock Plus, disabled for the alternet.org site. If I select 
"disable everywhere", the cpu usage goes from 60% to 40-50%. Disable the 
extension and cpu usage goes to ~20%; closing the alternet.org tab takes it to ~8%.


So, something about the alternet.org site makes SM 2.49.4 busy, having Adblock 
enabled makes SM very busy, even if it's disabled for that site. That seems odd. 
Should I be using a different adblocker? Or just disable it for troublesome sites?


I'm using AdBlock Plus 2.7.3, what version of AdBlock Plus are you using?


I'm using 2.8.2, which is from 2016. The newest version 3.something of this year. 
I have auto-update selected, but apparently, it's not bothered to update itself.

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Re: SM 2.53.1 and SM 2.49.5

2020-04-08 Thread Ray Davison

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:


No his answer is from a parallel universe where all this works. If 
2.49.5 sees the 2.53 places.sqlite it will move it to 
places.sqlite.corrupt and restore bookmarks from the latest json backup. 
All history is gone then. favicon storing changed in Firefox / Gecko 55 
and caused this change. Indexdb starage is also incomapatible and so on.


FRG


OK, you got me.  You loose bookmarks.  And you are probably right about 
the "parallel universe".


I have been using my primary profile.  I deleted everything that looked 
like it was saving things for "just in case" including the storage 
sub-directory.  Ran 2.53.1.  Copied that profile to WXP 2.49.5.  The 
bookmarks didn't make it.


And, all this has made my point about changing things "under the 
covers", quietly, and making it appear that nothing has changed.


I have never blindly followed an "upgrade path", on OSs or apps.  Many 
upgrades aren't.  I install the new along side the old, run the new as 
as close as possible with the old data.  And, if at some point I prefer 
the new, and no longer see a need for the old, I delete the old. That is 
why I now have seven SM plus PM and FM.  And right now they all have 
negatives for me.  Failure I think I am prepared for.  I am not 
accustomed to having to look for tricks to make the old look like the new.


And it increases my support for separating things so they are easier to 
manage and recover.  Which I will discuss again elsewhere.


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Re: Not able to send messages.

2020-04-08 Thread Frog

Frog wrote:

Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:

Frog wrote:

Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:

Frog wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 4/8/20 12:08 AM, Frog wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:


Wow! SeaMonkey 2.531. I missed a few versions. ;)

Go to your Verizon accounts SMTP settings in Outgoing 
Server(SMTP) Settings.

Click Edit.
Add the complete email address in the User Name: field.

Seems to be a problem since yesterday.


Thanks Walts48 for your response.

I did as you suggested with the same old results...mt test 
message didn't leave my computer.  Here is the window that I edited:




SMPT Server

Description:  My complete Verizon Email Address was already in 
this box.


Aerver Name: smtp.verizon.net

Port:   465 Default:    465

Security and Authentication

Connection security:  SSL/TLS

Authentication method: Normal password

User Name: Was the first part of my email address up to the @ was 
changed to my complete email address.


OK    Cancel    Help


I hope that I made the change as you suggested.


Frog







Looks good to me. It is what works in my Thunderbird's.

Did you get a password prompt, entered the password and still 
can't send an email?


Yes, I did get the password prompt request and I did enter my 
password---same results.




Try port 587 which is STARTTLS, I saw that in a site telling people 
how to use Thunderbird with AOL.  If that does not work then you 
fall back to 465 = SSL/TLS, which is what the other similar sites 
were suggesting.
I have several accounts and the split is 50% : 50% between the two 
variations.


I changed the port number to 587 as you suggested...the default 
remained 465.  I attempted so send myself a message with the same 
results.  I then (leaving the change in place) decided to change the 
Server Name from smpt.verizon.net to smpt.aol.com.  I tried to send 
an email test message to myself.  It appeared that the message was 
sent...the message never showed up in my inbox.  I decided at this 
point to restore things back to the original setting pending 
conformation of my actions.


It looks like I got things backward, if you set "Connection security" 
to STARTTLS then the Port gets set to 587 automatically.  Setting it 
back to SSL/TLS reverts to 465.  That may be irrelevant if you managed 
to send a message successfully, do you have another victim you could 
send a message to and then ask if they got it?
Assuming you have managed to work out if you can send messages or not, 
you can start looking at the input side of things.  I sent you a long 
response to your mozilla.general post a day or so, if you can't 
retrieve messages you could have a look at that.
I have several email addresses so it is a lot easier to check what is 
not working.


I made the change you suggested (i.e. Changing the "Connection security" 
to STARTTLS and the port numbers changed to 587" as you said they would.
I tried to send another test message and nothing happened.  I then 
changed the Server Name from smpt.verizon.net to smpt.aol.com. and tried 
to send a message...and nothing at all happened.  I then changed every 
thing back to the original settings.


Yes, I did receive your earlier message and will be taking a look at it 
next.


I continue to be very appreciative of your help...thank you very much.

Frog

I have come to a conclusion...I believe Verizon has lost my password.  I 
am noticing that I am constantly being asked for my password when 
sending a message via verizon.net.  Even when I give them my password, 
the message fails to send.  Now I've got a new challenge...how do I get 
Verizon on board with my password.  Any help would be appreciated.

Frog

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Re: Not able to send messages.

2020-04-08 Thread David H. Durgee
Frog wrote:
> Frog wrote:
>> Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:
>>> Frog wrote:
 Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:
> Frog wrote:
>> WaltS48 wrote:
>>> On 4/8/20 12:08 AM, Frog wrote:
 WaltS48 wrote:
>
> Wow! SeaMonkey 2.531. I missed a few versions. ;)
>
> Go to your Verizon accounts SMTP settings in Outgoing
> Server(SMTP) Settings.
> Click Edit.
> Add the complete email address in the User Name: field.
>
> Seems to be a problem since yesterday.

 Thanks Walts48 for your response.

 I did as you suggested with the same old results...mt test
 message didn't leave my computer.  Here is the window that I
 edited:



 SMPT Server

 Description:  My complete Verizon Email Address was already in
 this box.

 Aerver Name: smtp.verizon.net

 Port:   465 Default:    465

 Security and Authentication

 Connection security:  SSL/TLS

 Authentication method: Normal password

 User Name: Was the first part of my email address up to the @
 was changed to my complete email address.

 OK    Cancel    Help


 I hope that I made the change as you suggested.


 Frog

>

>>>
>>> Looks good to me. It is what works in my Thunderbird's.
>>>
>>> Did you get a password prompt, entered the password and still
>>> can't send an email?
>>>
>> Yes, I did get the password prompt request and I did enter my
>> password---same results.
>>
>
> Try port 587 which is STARTTLS, I saw that in a site telling people
> how to use Thunderbird with AOL.  If that does not work then you
> fall back to 465 = SSL/TLS, which is what the other similar sites
> were suggesting.
> I have several accounts and the split is 50% : 50% between the two
> variations.
>
 I changed the port number to 587 as you suggested...the default
 remained 465.  I attempted so send myself a message with the same
 results.  I then (leaving the change in place) decided to change the
 Server Name from smpt.verizon.net to smpt.aol.com.  I tried to send
 an email test message to myself.  It appeared that the message was
 sent...the message never showed up in my inbox.  I decided at this
 point to restore things back to the original setting pending
 conformation of my actions.

>>> It looks like I got things backward, if you set "Connection security"
>>> to STARTTLS then the Port gets set to 587 automatically.  Setting it
>>> back to SSL/TLS reverts to 465.  That may be irrelevant if you
>>> managed to send a message successfully, do you have another victim
>>> you could send a message to and then ask if they got it?
>>> Assuming you have managed to work out if you can send messages or
>>> not, you can start looking at the input side of things.  I sent you a
>>> long response to your mozilla.general post a day or so, if you can't
>>> retrieve messages you could have a look at that.
>>> I have several email addresses so it is a lot easier to check what is
>>> not working.
>>>
>> I made the change you suggested (i.e. Changing the "Connection
>> security" to STARTTLS and the port numbers changed to 587" as you said
>> they would.
>> I tried to send another test message and nothing happened.  I then
>> changed the Server Name from smpt.verizon.net to smpt.aol.com. and
>> tried to send a message...and nothing at all happened.  I then changed
>> every thing back to the original settings.
>>
>> Yes, I did receive your earlier message and will be taking a look at
>> it next.
>>
>> I continue to be very appreciative of your help...thank you very much.
>>
>> Frog
>>
> I have come to a conclusion...I believe Verizon has lost my password.  I
> am noticing that I am constantly being asked for my password when
> sending a message via verizon.net.  Even when I give them my password,
> the message fails to send.  Now I've got a new challenge...how do I get
> Verizon on board with my password.  Any help would be appreciated.
> Frog
> 

Lost?  Your email account might have been hacked like mine was a month ago.

See if you can logon to AOL web mail with it.  If not, follow their
guidelines for a lost or stolen password to reclaim your account.

Dave
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Re: Not able to send messages.

2020-04-08 Thread Frog

David H. Durgee wrote:

Frog wrote:

Frog wrote:

Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:

Frog wrote:

Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:

Frog wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 4/8/20 12:08 AM, Frog wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:


Wow! SeaMonkey 2.531. I missed a few versions. ;)

Go to your Verizon accounts SMTP settings in Outgoing
Server(SMTP) Settings.
Click Edit.
Add the complete email address in the User Name: field.

Seems to be a problem since yesterday.


Thanks Walts48 for your response.

I did as you suggested with the same old results...mt test
message didn't leave my computer.  Here is the window that I
edited:



SMPT Server

Description:  My complete Verizon Email Address was already in
this box.

Aerver Name: smtp.verizon.net

Port:   465 Default:    465

Security and Authentication

Connection security:  SSL/TLS

Authentication method: Normal password

User Name: Was the first part of my email address up to the @
was changed to my complete email address.

OK    Cancel    Help


I hope that I made the change as you suggested.


Frog







Looks good to me. It is what works in my Thunderbird's.

Did you get a password prompt, entered the password and still
can't send an email?


Yes, I did get the password prompt request and I did enter my
password---same results.



Try port 587 which is STARTTLS, I saw that in a site telling people
how to use Thunderbird with AOL.  If that does not work then you
fall back to 465 = SSL/TLS, which is what the other similar sites
were suggesting.
I have several accounts and the split is 50% : 50% between the two
variations.


I changed the port number to 587 as you suggested...the default
remained 465.  I attempted so send myself a message with the same
results.  I then (leaving the change in place) decided to change the
Server Name from smpt.verizon.net to smpt.aol.com.  I tried to send
an email test message to myself.  It appeared that the message was
sent...the message never showed up in my inbox.  I decided at this
point to restore things back to the original setting pending
conformation of my actions.


It looks like I got things backward, if you set "Connection security"
to STARTTLS then the Port gets set to 587 automatically.  Setting it
back to SSL/TLS reverts to 465.  That may be irrelevant if you
managed to send a message successfully, do you have another victim
you could send a message to and then ask if they got it?
Assuming you have managed to work out if you can send messages or
not, you can start looking at the input side of things.  I sent you a
long response to your mozilla.general post a day or so, if you can't
retrieve messages you could have a look at that.
I have several email addresses so it is a lot easier to check what is
not working.


I made the change you suggested (i.e. Changing the "Connection
security" to STARTTLS and the port numbers changed to 587" as you said
they would.
I tried to send another test message and nothing happened.  I then
changed the Server Name from smpt.verizon.net to smpt.aol.com. and
tried to send a message...and nothing at all happened.  I then changed
every thing back to the original settings.

Yes, I did receive your earlier message and will be taking a look at
it next.

I continue to be very appreciative of your help...thank you very much.

Frog


I have come to a conclusion...I believe Verizon has lost my password.  I
am noticing that I am constantly being asked for my password when
sending a message via verizon.net.  Even when I give them my password,
the message fails to send.  Now I've got a new challenge...how do I get
Verizon on board with my password.  Any help would be appreciated.
Frog



Lost?  Your email account might have been hacked like mine was a month ago.

See if you can logon to AOL web mail with it.  If not, follow their
guidelines for a lost or stolen password to reclaim your account.

Dave


My AOL account and my Verizon account have have always had two different 
passwords. My Verizon mail is the one I can't access to send a message. 
The AOL account will now let me send email messages.


Frog





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Re: SM 2.53.1 and SM 2.49.5

2020-04-08 Thread Frank-Rainer Grahl

Ray Davison wrote:

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

I have never blindly followed an "upgrade path", on OSs or apps.  Many 
upgrades aren't.  I install the new along side the old, run the new as as 
close as possible with the old data.  And, if at some point I prefer the new, 
and no longer see a need for the old, I delete the old. That is why I now have 
seven SM plus PM and FM.  And right now they all have negatives for me.  
Failure I think I am prepared for.  I am not accustomed to having to look for 
tricks to make the old look like the new.


And it increases my support for separating things so they are easier to manage 
and recover.  Which I will discuss again elsewhere.


Ray



I wish we chould have retained compatibility for XP but it was just not 
possible. Downgrading always came with breakage but it just wasn't until 
recently that this became a big problem. But there is no chance that we can 
retain compatibility with older versions and get away with it. Too much in 
gecko changed and still does. It is a wonder that 2.53.x even mostly works as 
always with all the changes under the hood.


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Re: Duplicate tab doesn't work anymore with SM 2.53.1

2020-04-08 Thread Ant

On 4/4/2020 7:18 AM, Cesar Romani wrote:

Hello,

My user agent is: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:60.0)
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/60.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.1

"Duplicate Tab" or CTRL+SHIFT+U doesn't work anymore with the latest
release, 2.53.1. It worked fine with the previous version.

Many thanks in advance,


My PrefBar's clone button stopped working too. However, I was told to 
press ctrl key and click on "Reload current page" toolbar icon.  I 
wished there was a GUI option to do it though.

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Re: Not able to send messages.

2020-04-08 Thread Frog

Frog wrote:

Frog wrote:

Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:

Frog wrote:

Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:

Frog wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 4/8/20 12:08 AM, Frog wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:


Wow! SeaMonkey 2.531. I missed a few versions. ;)

Go to your Verizon accounts SMTP settings in Outgoing 
Server(SMTP) Settings.

Click Edit.
Add the complete email address in the User Name: field.

Seems to be a problem since yesterday.


Thanks Walts48 for your response.

I did as you suggested with the same old results...mt test 
message didn't leave my computer.  Here is the window that I 
edited:




SMPT Server

Description:  My complete Verizon Email Address was already in 
this box.


Aerver Name: smtp.verizon.net

Port:   465 Default:    465

Security and Authentication

Connection security:  SSL/TLS

Authentication method: Normal password

User Name: Was the first part of my email address up to the @ 
was changed to my complete email address.


OK    Cancel    Help


I hope that I made the change as you suggested.


Frog







Looks good to me. It is what works in my Thunderbird's.

Did you get a password prompt, entered the password and still 
can't send an email?


Yes, I did get the password prompt request and I did enter my 
password---same results.




Try port 587 which is STARTTLS, I saw that in a site telling people 
how to use Thunderbird with AOL.  If that does not work then you 
fall back to 465 = SSL/TLS, which is what the other similar sites 
were suggesting.
I have several accounts and the split is 50% : 50% between the two 
variations.


I changed the port number to 587 as you suggested...the default 
remained 465.  I attempted so send myself a message with the same 
results.  I then (leaving the change in place) decided to change the 
Server Name from smpt.verizon.net to smpt.aol.com.  I tried to send 
an email test message to myself.  It appeared that the message was 
sent...the message never showed up in my inbox.  I decided at this 
point to restore things back to the original setting pending 
conformation of my actions.


It looks like I got things backward, if you set "Connection security" 
to STARTTLS then the Port gets set to 587 automatically.  Setting it 
back to SSL/TLS reverts to 465.  That may be irrelevant if you 
managed to send a message successfully, do you have another victim 
you could send a message to and then ask if they got it?
Assuming you have managed to work out if you can send messages or 
not, you can start looking at the input side of things.  I sent you a 
long response to your mozilla.general post a day or so, if you can't 
retrieve messages you could have a look at that.
I have several email addresses so it is a lot easier to check what is 
not working.


I made the change you suggested (i.e. Changing the "Connection 
security" to STARTTLS and the port numbers changed to 587" as you said 
they would.
I tried to send another test message and nothing happened.  I then 
changed the Server Name from smpt.verizon.net to smpt.aol.com. and 
tried to send a message...and nothing at all happened.  I then changed 
every thing back to the original settings.


Yes, I did receive your earlier message and will be taking a look at 
it next.


I continue to be very appreciative of your help...thank you very much.

Frog

I have come to a conclusion...I believe Verizon has lost my password.  I 
am noticing that I am constantly being asked for my password when 
sending a message via verizon.net.  Even when I give them my password, 
the message fails to send.  Now I've got a new challenge...how do I get 
Verizon on board with my password.  Any help would be appreciated.

Frog


This is the message I continue to see when I attempt to send amessage:


Send Message Error

Sending of the message failed.
As error occurred while sending mail: Could not get password
for smtp.verizon.net.  The message was not sent.
OK

Do you have any thoughts what steps must be taken to fix this problem?

Frog


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Re: High CPU usage

2020-04-08 Thread NFN Smith

flyguy wrote:


You may want to disable any add-on or try SM in safe mode. Or perhaps 
upgrade your version of SM.


I am using Adblock Plus, disabled for the alternet.org site. If I select 
"disable everywhere", the cpu usage goes from 60% to 40-50%. Disable the 
extension and cpu usage goes to ~20%; closing the alternet.org tab takes 
it to ~8%.


So, something about the alternet.org site makes SM 2.49.4 busy, having 
Adblock enabled makes SM very busy, even if it's disabled for that site. 
That seems odd. Should I be using a different adblocker? Or just disable 
it for troublesome sites?


If you're running Seamonkey 2.53.1, be aware that the release notes 
indicate that there's no current version of AdBlock Plus that's 
supported.  For that kind of functionality, there is still uBlock 
Origin, where the dev continues to keep support for an XUL version.


Take a look at 
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.53.1/ and note that 
version 2.9.1 of Adblock Plus is known to cause memory and CPU issues, 
and it is recommended to switch to uBlock .  I did that about a year 
ago, and I've found that while it took me a while to get used to 
uBlock's different philosophy and UI, I generally like it better than 
Adblock.


Moving to uBlock may solve some of your problems, but perhaps not 
everything, especially if you have lots of blocking rules in place.


I've found that I occasionally have resource issues, especially if I 
leave Seamonkey open overnight (and I normally leave my machine running 
24/7).  When that happens, Seamonkey tends to become less responsive, 
and a check of the Windows task manager shows lots of CPU activity and 
memory usage in excess of 1.5 GB.  A few days ago, I was filling out a 
form that had a lot of entries (and where every entry had script 
processing). By the time I got to the end of the form, the last few 
entries were giving me script timeout errors.


I do make quite a bit of use of extensions, but most of them are small. 
However, with the combination of uBlock and NoScript active, I'm 
inclined to believe that those (either individually or together) are the 
primary culprits. I have been long suspicious of the possibility of 
memory leaks, but that's only a guess.  Last summer, I changed out my 
machine -- it has 16 GB of RAM in it and an SSD drive, and the high 
resource usage problem seems to be less.  But I still have to remember 
either to make sure I close Seamonkey at the end of the day, or if I 
start the day and find it open, restarting before beginning working.


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Re: Not able to send messages.

2020-04-08 Thread WaltS48

On 4/8/20 7:23 PM, Frog wrote:

Frog wrote:

Frog wrote:

Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:

Frog wrote:

Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:

Frog wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 4/8/20 12:08 AM, Frog wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:


Wow! SeaMonkey 2.531. I missed a few versions. ;)

Go to your Verizon accounts SMTP settings in Outgoing 
Server(SMTP) Settings.

Click Edit.
Add the complete email address in the User Name: field.

Seems to be a problem since yesterday.


Thanks Walts48 for your response.

I did as you suggested with the same old results...mt test 
message didn't leave my computer.  Here is the window that I 
edited:




SMPT Server

Description:  My complete Verizon Email Address was already in 
this box.


Aerver Name: smtp.verizon.net

Port:   465 Default:    465

Security and Authentication

Connection security:  SSL/TLS

Authentication method: Normal password

User Name: Was the first part of my email address up to the @ 
was changed to my complete email address.


OK    Cancel    Help


I hope that I made the change as you suggested.


Frog







Looks good to me. It is what works in my Thunderbird's.

Did you get a password prompt, entered the password and still 
can't send an email?


Yes, I did get the password prompt request and I did enter my 
password---same results.




Try port 587 which is STARTTLS, I saw that in a site telling 
people how to use Thunderbird with AOL.  If that does not work 
then you fall back to 465 = SSL/TLS, which is what the other 
similar sites were suggesting.
I have several accounts and the split is 50% : 50% between the two 
variations.


I changed the port number to 587 as you suggested...the default 
remained 465.  I attempted so send myself a message with the same 
results.  I then (leaving the change in place) decided to change 
the Server Name from smpt.verizon.net to smpt.aol.com.  I tried to 
send an email test message to myself.  It appeared that the message 
was sent...the message never showed up in my inbox.  I decided at 
this point to restore things back to the original setting pending 
conformation of my actions.


It looks like I got things backward, if you set "Connection 
security" to STARTTLS then the Port gets set to 587 automatically.  
Setting it back to SSL/TLS reverts to 465.  That may be irrelevant 
if you managed to send a message successfully, do you have another 
victim you could send a message to and then ask if they got it?
Assuming you have managed to work out if you can send messages or 
not, you can start looking at the input side of things.  I sent you 
a long response to your mozilla.general post a day or so, if you 
can't retrieve messages you could have a look at that.
I have several email addresses so it is a lot easier to check what 
is not working.


I made the change you suggested (i.e. Changing the "Connection 
security" to STARTTLS and the port numbers changed to 587" as you 
said they would.
I tried to send another test message and nothing happened.  I then 
changed the Server Name from smpt.verizon.net to smpt.aol.com. and 
tried to send a message...and nothing at all happened.  I then 
changed every thing back to the original settings.


Yes, I did receive your earlier message and will be taking a look at 
it next.


I continue to be very appreciative of your help...thank you very much.

Frog

I have come to a conclusion...I believe Verizon has lost my password.  
I am noticing that I am constantly being asked for my password when 
sending a message via verizon.net.  Even when I give them my password, 
the message fails to send.  Now I've got a new challenge...how do I 
get Verizon on board with my password.  Any help would be appreciated.

Frog


This is the message I continue to see when I attempt to send amessage:


Send Message Error

 Sending of the message failed.
 As error occurred while sending mail: Could not get password
 for smtp.verizon.net.  The message was not sent.
     OK

Do you have any thoughts what steps must be taken to fix this problem?

Frog





Make sure the Username is the full email address in your 
smtp.verizon.net outgoing server settings.


When you get the error message you should be getting asked for the 
password, enter it and it should work.


It worked for me with two different versions of Thunderbird.

If it doesn't work try setting up the account in a new profile.

Type about:profiles into the browser address bar.
Click the "Create a New Profile" button.
Read and understand the dialog window that pops up.
Click the "Next" button.
Enter a new profile name. Something like smtptest or verizontest.
Click the "Finish" button.
Click the "Launch profile in new browser".
Open the Mail & Newsgroups window.
Setup your Verizon email account and try sending a test email to another 
account, or the same account.


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Re: SM 2.53.1 and SM 2.49.5

2020-04-08 Thread Ray Davison

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

I wish we chould have retained compatibility for XP 


I can understand how you might have been in a hurry to get off an answer 
to the initial question, but if you had slowed down long enough to say 
it was a WXP issue, some of us would have gotten an important piece of 
information, and I would not have said anything.


I understand that when the Mozilla parent became the child, SM became an 
orphan.


Ray


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Re: Not able to send messages.

2020-04-08 Thread David H. Durgee
Frog wrote:
> David H. Durgee wrote:
>> Frog wrote:
>>> Frog wrote:
 Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:
> Frog wrote:
>> Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:
>>> Frog wrote:
 WaltS48 wrote:
> On 4/8/20 12:08 AM, Frog wrote:
>> WaltS48 wrote:
>>>
>>> Wow! SeaMonkey 2.531. I missed a few versions. ;)
>>>
>>> Go to your Verizon accounts SMTP settings in Outgoing
>>> Server(SMTP) Settings.
>>> Click Edit.
>>> Add the complete email address in the User Name: field.
>>>
>>> Seems to be a problem since yesterday.
>>
>> Thanks Walts48 for your response.
>>
>> I did as you suggested with the same old results...mt test
>> message didn't leave my computer.  Here is the window that I
>> edited:
>>
>>
>>
>> SMPT Server
>>
>> Description:  My complete Verizon Email Address was already in
>> this box.
>>
>> Aerver Name: smtp.verizon.net
>>
>> Port:   465 Default:    465
>>
>> Security and Authentication
>>
>> Connection security:  SSL/TLS
>>
>> Authentication method: Normal password
>>
>> User Name: Was the first part of my email address up to the @
>> was changed to my complete email address.
>>
>> OK    Cancel    Help
>>
>>
>> I hope that I made the change as you suggested.
>>
>>
>> Frog
>>
>>>
>>
>
> Looks good to me. It is what works in my Thunderbird's.
>
> Did you get a password prompt, entered the password and still
> can't send an email?
>
 Yes, I did get the password prompt request and I did enter my
 password---same results.

>>>
>>> Try port 587 which is STARTTLS, I saw that in a site telling people
>>> how to use Thunderbird with AOL.  If that does not work then you
>>> fall back to 465 = SSL/TLS, which is what the other similar sites
>>> were suggesting.
>>> I have several accounts and the split is 50% : 50% between the two
>>> variations.
>>>
>> I changed the port number to 587 as you suggested...the default
>> remained 465.  I attempted so send myself a message with the same
>> results.  I then (leaving the change in place) decided to change the
>> Server Name from smpt.verizon.net to smpt.aol.com.  I tried to send
>> an email test message to myself.  It appeared that the message was
>> sent...the message never showed up in my inbox.  I decided at this
>> point to restore things back to the original setting pending
>> conformation of my actions.
>>
> It looks like I got things backward, if you set "Connection security"
> to STARTTLS then the Port gets set to 587 automatically.  Setting it
> back to SSL/TLS reverts to 465.  That may be irrelevant if you
> managed to send a message successfully, do you have another victim
> you could send a message to and then ask if they got it?
> Assuming you have managed to work out if you can send messages or
> not, you can start looking at the input side of things.  I sent you a
> long response to your mozilla.general post a day or so, if you can't
> retrieve messages you could have a look at that.
> I have several email addresses so it is a lot easier to check what is
> not working.
>
 I made the change you suggested (i.e. Changing the "Connection
 security" to STARTTLS and the port numbers changed to 587" as you said
 they would.
 I tried to send another test message and nothing happened.  I then
 changed the Server Name from smpt.verizon.net to smpt.aol.com. and
 tried to send a message...and nothing at all happened.  I then changed
 every thing back to the original settings.

 Yes, I did receive your earlier message and will be taking a look at
 it next.

 I continue to be very appreciative of your help...thank you very much.

 Frog

>>> I have come to a conclusion...I believe Verizon has lost my password.  I
>>> am noticing that I am constantly being asked for my password when
>>> sending a message via verizon.net.  Even when I give them my password,
>>> the message fails to send.  Now I've got a new challenge...how do I get
>>> Verizon on board with my password.  Any help would be appreciated.
>>> Frog
>>>
>>
>> Lost?  Your email account might have been hacked like mine was a month
>> ago.
>>
>> See if you can logon to AOL web mail with it.  If not, follow their
>> guidelines for a lost or stolen password to reclaim your account.
>>
>> Dave
> 
> My AOL account and my Verizon account have have always had two different
> passwords. My Verizon mail is the one I can't access to send a message.
> The AOL account will no

Re: SM 2.53.1 and SM 2.49.5

2020-04-08 Thread MM

At 04/08/202011:17 AM-0700, Ray Davison wrote:

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
No his answer is from a parallel universe where all this works. If 
2.49.5 sees the 2.53 places.sqlite it will move it to 
places.sqlite.corrupt and restore bookmarks from the latest json 
backup. All history is gone then. favicon storing changed in 
Firefox / Gecko 55 and caused this change. Indexdb starage is also 
incomapatible and so on.

FRG


OK, you got me.  You loose bookmarks.  And you are probably right 
about the "parallel universe".


I have been using my primary profile.  I deleted everything that 
looked like it was saving things for "just in case" including the 
storage sub-directory.  Ran 2.53.1.  Copied that profile to WXP 
2.49.5.  The bookmarks didn't make it.


I know there are bookmark backup files of places.sqlite, but I 
decided long ago to make bookmarks separate from the program
or data files.  Turning on auto export of bookmarks to html leaves a 
current html bookmark file in the browser program
file folder.  I made a separate folder in root "Bookmarks", and place 
the exported bookmark file there.


That html bookmark file is used as the home page of each of the 
several browsers on the machine.  A desktop
bat file copies the html auto-exported to the bookmarks 
directory.  One of the browsers, Seamonkey of course, is
the "main" bookmark source.  I also have another bat file on the 
desktop to copy bookmarks.html to bookmarks2.html,

2 to 3, etc for redundant copies.  Now bookmarks are isolated from accidents.

Mario



And, all this has made my point about changing things "under the 
covers", quietly, and making it appear that nothing has changed.


I have never blindly followed an "upgrade path", on OSs or 
apps.  Many upgrades aren't.  I install the new along side the old, 
run the new as as close as possible with the old data.  And, if at 
some point I prefer the new, and no longer see a need for the old, I 
delete the old. That is why I now have seven SM plus PM and FM.  And 
right now they all have negatives for me.  Failure I think I am 
prepared for.  I am not accustomed to having to look for tricks to 
make the old look like the new.


And it increases my support for separating things so they are easier 
to manage and recover.  Which I will discuss again elsewhere.


Ray



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Moving SM Mail Files

2020-04-08 Thread Henrik37 via support-seamonkey
On a 64 bit Dell Optiplex running 64 bit Win 7 Pro, I presently have SM 
2.49.4 installed.  I am not certain whether existing SM mail is 32 bit 
or 64 bit as it has been in use for several years.


I want to change the company providing the mail service and change the 
name of the mailbox.  In the process, however, I want to keep all of the 
existing inbox and sent mail files.


Can I simply copy the old inbox and sent mail files and paste these two 
files into a new mail account I establish with the new mail provider?


Please put any comments in simple language as I am 82 and although I go 
back to the MS-DOS days, I have forgotten more PC-related things than I 
like to admit. Thanks, in advance, for any and all advice, comments, or 
guidance.

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