Re: Useragent question - in about:config

[Daniel]

Geoff Welsh wrote on 12/04/2020 4:53 AM:

Is general.useragent.extra.seamonkey no longer functional?

I had written (at some point);  Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 
10.13; rv:61.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/74.0



but when I check at- 
https://www.whatismybrowser.com/detect/what-is-my-user-agent



it shows me Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.13; rv:60.0) 
Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.53.1 Lightning/5.8.1


Geoff, where did you get the preference 
"general.useragent.extra.seamonkey" from??


If you enter "about:config" in the browser address bar, and, then, after 
accepting the warning, if you enter "useragent" in the Search: bar, you 
should see all the preferences which include "useragent" in the preference.


On that screen, do you see listed a preference called 
"general.useragent.extra.seamonkey"?? I don't!!


If you do see that preference, in the column labelled "Status", does it 
say "default" or "user set"?? If the later, you (or someone at your 
computer) have set up a specific useragent to be displayed to a 'seamonkey'.


'www.whatis mybrowser.com' is not 'seamonkey' so your SeaMonkey is 
displaying its real useragent.


It is also possible that when you installed Lightning, it reset your 
general User Agent string to show SeaMonkey/2.53.1 and then added in the 
Lightning/5.8.1


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Win7 User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) 
Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49.5 Build identifier: 20190609032134


Linux User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) 
Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49.1 Build identifier: 20171015235623

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Re: SM 2.53.1 and SM 2.49.5

[Daniel]

alexyu wrote on 12/04/2020 9:21 AM:

NFN Smith wrote, on 07 Apr 20 11:42:


xxyyz wrote:


I have SM 2.49.5 32 bit on WXP and 64 bit on W7, and have been
synching them by copying the Mozilla folders (C:\Documents and
Settings\username\Mozilla on WXP, C:\Users\username\AppData\Roaming
\Mozilla on W7) to and fro, with no problems.

If I put SM 2.53.1 64 bit on the W7 machine, will I still be able
to do this?


If you're doing this kind of activity to allow you to have your mail 
on more than one machine, you really need to move to IMAP, where your 
mail is stored on the server.  Even if it is technically possible to 
copy your profiles back and forth between two machines, Seamonkey was 
never designed to work that way.  Conversely, IMAP is designed this 
kind of condition.


I have a similar setup, with one important difference:  Both OS's (WXP & 
W7) are on separate partitions on dual-boot one disk, and I have SM and 
FF on both, with just one profile (on a non-standard location) for each 
'set' (one for both SM's, one for both FF's .  I also periodically copy 
select data from one set to the other, but that's secondary here).


On this Laptop, I dual-boot Win7 and various Linux OS'. As Linux can 
"see" my Win7 partitions but Win7 cannot "see" my Linux installs, I have 
my SeaMonkey Profile so both OS' can "see" it!!


Considering other points in this thread, this setup is not just "to have 
[my] mail on more than one machine", but much more:  To have a seamless 
browser/email experience on the two OS's (because I use each one for 
different purposes, but want to have that possibility).  Also, this 
setup uses SM 2.49.5 and FF ESR 52.7.4 and is expected to 'stop there', 
since I have dozens of AddOns I want to keep using, and most of them 
will no longer work on newer releases (yes, even SM 2.53).


When I first implemented this, I knew that some files in the Profile 
used 'physical' addresses but, since the Profile would be accessed by 
any OS in any order, I hoped that SM/FF would automatically handle this 
(a behavior I noticed during tries towards this setup), and it seems to 
work flawlessly (except for a few Extensions) so far.


About the only problem I've had with my Dual-Booting set-up is when I 
want to download a file onto my Hard Drive, my Win7 might be trying to 
save the file to '/Downloads'. The '/' indicates that the download was 
destined for a Linux partition  which Win7 knows nothing about so, 
more or less, responds "HUH!!"


The statement that "SeaMonkey was never designed to work that way" 
brought this back for me, since I also imagined that this was true, but 
see that nevertheless it DOES "work that way" for me -- and, since I 
have never seen any information about this, I'd like to know if anyone 
can furnish any, and warn of any potential problems with this setup.



'... nevertheless it DOES "work that way" for me ...' YEAP!!

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Win7 User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) 
Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49.5 Build identifier: 20190609032134


Linux User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) 
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Re: Problem with Data Manager

[Mark B]

Bill Spikowski wrote:

mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote:

Mark B wrote:

Windows 10
SM 23.49.5

The SM Data Manager on my wife's machine isn't working right.  When 
it's called up, there's a long period of not allowing any entry in 
the 'Search Domains' field, followed by more time where it says (Not 
Responding) when it goes dim, then after about 45 seconds, allowing 
entry in the 'Search Domains' field, and everything is working.  This 
happens every time it is called.


Any ideas?


 From the release notes 
:


If you experience a hang and/or get a message box that a script is 
busy when opening the Data Manager try deleting the webappsstore.* 
files from your profile folder when SeaMonkey is not running. These 
files contain data stored by web sites and will be recreated during 
the next start. If you are unsure if the information is needed please 
back up the files before deleting them. The problem is tracked in bug 
1305624 but so far no coding error has been found. This problem is 
been reported frequently when trying to manage passwords. But the 
problem will generally happen just after you open the Data Manager, 
because this component is also used for managing cookies, site 
preferences permissions and other settings.






THANK YOU FOR POINTING OUT THIS TIP!

My existing webappsstore.sqlite file was 35 MB. After deleting it, it 
was recreated at only 32 KB.


Now the data manager works again -- the way it did many years ago!


Updating her machine to 2.53.1 then deleting webappsstore.sqlite and 
restarting SM seems to have fixed the problem for now.


Thanks to all for the help.
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Re: Errors with YouTube (a workaround for voting and commenting)

[Ant]

On 4/10/2020 8:09 PM, Ant wrote:

On 4/6/2020 11:46 PM, Ant wrote:

On 4/6/2020 7:49 PM, viliam.ku...@gmail.com wrote:
...

Does Youtube work better if you access it with
https://www.youtube.com/?disable_polymer=1


A few things are better, but clicking the notification bell and the 
user thing in the upper right hand corner still gets the never 
ending loading circle.


Navigating away from the home page still has many of the same 
problems.  I didn't try commenting on anything.


Voting or subscribing actually doesn't work, althrough it appears it 
does. Just subscribe and give thumbs up to video or comment, refresh 
and your actions are gone. Also if you open developer tools and watch 
XHR requests your actions will end up with 401 (unauthorized).


I noticed this too. Wow, that's bad. :(


I just noticed YouTube's chat doesn't seem to accept my messages too. :(


https://old.reddit.com/r/seamonkey/comments/fy21v6/unable_to_subscribe_unsubscribe_vote_etc_in/fn4z92q/ 
says "Disabling Firefox compatibility advertising to force the old 
layout is the only thing that seems to help at the moment" to be able to 
vote and comment. However, chat says "Oh no! It looks like you're using 
an older version of your browser. Please update it to use live chat." :(

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Re: Not able to send messages.

[Paul B. Gallagher]

WaltS48 wrote:


That is a very old support article.

" Customers no longer have the option to keep their Verizon.net email 
address or extract their data to another service provider. All 
verizon.net email, calendar and address book content that was not 
migrated to AOL or moved to a third party email provider before December 
15, 2017 has been deleted from our systems."


So I must have migrated mine before December 15, 2017 and do remember 
getting the notification.


Guess what happened today? I got the Outgoing server (SMTP) Server 
Password Required message when trying to send an email using my Verizon 
account.


I entered the password and the email sent.

I would suspect AOL is having server problems. We are having a pandemic 
and email traffic is up.


I, too, have a verizon.net account that I migrated back in 2017 when I 
received the notice, and have had no problems (other than late-night 
maintenance outages). I just sent a test message from that account to 
one of my other accounts, and it went out quickly and arrived quickly 
with no error messages or prompts. My SM apparently does remember the 
correct password.


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Re: Not able to send messages.

[Paul B. Gallagher]

WaltS48 wrote:


That is a very old support article.

" Customers no longer have the option to keep their Verizon.net email 
address or extract their data to another service provider. All 
verizon.net email, calendar and address book content that was not 
migrated to AOL or moved to a third party email provider before December 
15, 2017 has been deleted from our systems."


So I must have migrated mine before December 15, 2017 and do remember 
getting the notification.


Guess what happened today? I got the Outgoing server (SMTP) Server 
Password Required message when trying to send an email using my Verizon 
account.


I entered the password and the email sent.

I would suspect AOL is having server problems. We are having a pandemic 
and email traffic is up.


I, too, have a verizon.net account that I migrated back in 2017 when I 
received the notice, and have had no problems (other than late-night 
maintenance outages). I just sent a test message from that account to 
one of my other accounts, and it went out quickly and arrived quickly 
with no error messages or prompts. My SM apparently does remember the 
correct password.



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Re: Not able to send messages.

[WaltS48]

On 4/11/20 8:19 PM, Frog wrote:

Frog wrote:


As you probably noticed in one of my earlier messages, I sent a Test 
message to see if I was able to send a help message to this group.  
That message seemed to make it to this address.  Thus I am now going 
to state my problem and hope somebody comes to my rescue.


Some time ago I was required to move my server support to AOL from 
Verizon.  I made all of the changes at that time and all has bee 
working without a problem until now...I presently cannot send a normal 
email message from my computer via SeaMonkey (mainly) or from Mozilla, 
All such attempts ends with a message as follows:


Outgoing server (SMTP) Server Password Required

box - Use Password Manager to remember the password.
OK _ Cancel_

I Have not made any changes to any settings in either SeaMonkey or 
Mozilla since they originally set a long while ago.  I then typed in 
my password and this is the next message that appeared.


Login to account failed
Login to server smtp.verizon.net with username .failed.

I then clicked cancel and got this message.

SeaMonkey Message - Test
Status: Connected to smtp.verizon.net
Progress
Cancel

The green bar after Progress never closes, so I clicked Cancel.

I called AOL today and (after waiting for over 2 hours on the phone 
waiting for a human to pick up the phone, and another almost 3 hours 
today before someone picked up the phone.  I told them about my 
problem and then I was told that I had a general help desk and that I 
needed to talk to a technician,  This person then proceeded to tell me 
that I could not speak to a technician until I purchased a technical 
support plan ($14.99).  After some wrangling, He said that having this 
plan was the only way to get technical help...he then offered my the 
first 30 days free.  I gave in knowing that I needed help and that I 
could cancel the technical support plan before the end of the 30 day 
period. Well I wsthen on hold for another 3 hours when I finally got 
to speak to a technician.  He said that he was going to have to delete 
all messages in my Inbox, Drafts, and Trash before he could work on 
the problem. He wanted to know whether I had a data backup plan...and 
I said no.  the then said that I needed to backup these files before 
he did any work on my system.  That is where he stopped helping me.  
(((Please note, I was on the phone yesterday evening waiting for 3 
hours for somebody to help me...I was then cot off and got a recorded 
message that the office was closed for the day and that I could get 
help from the AOL help pages,)


A long story for no help.

I can receive downloads on my computer without any problem.  I can 
click on web addresses and they work.  Another action that did occur 
during my talk with the AOL technician was one of his showing me that 
a message could be sent through AOL and that it would work..and it 
did.  Thus, the only thing not working on my computer is sending email 
messages via SeaMonkey or Mozilla.


I would appreciate any help you send my way on this subject.

Windows 10 - SeaMonkey 2.531


Frog






Well, I now have the answer to all of the items covered in this thread 
and now must start on a new thread.  I am going to bore you for a moment 
in order to help someone else who might be going through the problems I 
have been facing. So here goes the end of this thread:


Part 1:  I really thought that I was dealing with a virus or malware on 
my computer; but I didn't want accept this thought, since I have had my 
present virus scan software (WebRoot) on my system for years; and it has 
never let me down.  As I stated in one of my messages, I did want to 
weed a virus or malware possibility out of the picture...thus, I did a 
complete scan of my entire system (6.5 hours of scanning); and no bad 
things were found on my system.  I then sent a message to the WebRoot 
people, and they had me forward the results of my scan to them for 
analysis.  They informed me, after their scan was completed, that my 
system did not have a virus or malware problem...it was completely 
clean.  They suggested that I contact Verizon (which remains a part of 
my email address) for help.  I thought about it and decided that a 
conversation with Verizon might take less that a few minutes; however, 
the wait to talk to somebody might take hours of waiting.  I then turned 
to the internet for help.


Part 2:  The second part pertains to what I found on the internet.  Here 
is that information:


Verizon Email Retirement
"Verizon has retired our (their) email service.  We have completed our 
notifications regarding this change; and customers no longer have the 
option to keep their Verizon.net email address or extract and move their 
data to another service provider.(((I don't recall ever receiving a 
notification as stated above.)))
Here is the web address where you might want to read more about this 
Verizon Email Retirement;


https://www.verizon

Setting up my computer with a new ISP...while not loosing data on my system setup.

[Frog]

	Some you have given me much help with an earlier thread relating to 
this the subject of this message...Subject: Not able to send messages.


Here is a list of things I must learn about to make the change from 
Verizon to AOL> ISP.


I now I want to continue using SeaMonkey in the same manner as I did 
while connected to Verizon.


I know that I must take steps to configure things so that I continue to 
have access to old Verizon messages, while adding new AOL messages to 
this system (if that is possible).


For sure, I don't want to lose anything I previously saved on my 
computer that originated via the Verizon days.


I believe there will be a need to reconfigure MailWasher to work with 
AOL.  This MailWasher software permits me to weed out unwanted messages 
prior to downloading messages to my computer...I have found this 
software helps to keep from introducing virus and malware software on my 
computer.


Have I forgotten anything?

I will continue using the same Verizon email address on the AOL system.

I would welcome any help or guidance with the above that comes my way.

Frog
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Re: Not able to send messages.

[Frog]

Frog wrote:


As you probably noticed in one of my earlier messages, I sent a Test 
message to see if I was able to send a help message to this group.  That 
message seemed to make it to this address.  Thus I am now going to state 
my problem and hope somebody comes to my rescue.


Some time ago I was required to move my server support to AOL from 
Verizon.  I made all of the changes at that time and all has bee working 
without a problem until now...I presently cannot send a normal email 
message from my computer via SeaMonkey (mainly) or from Mozilla, All 
such attempts ends with a message as follows:


Outgoing server (SMTP) Server Password Required

box - Use Password Manager to remember the password.
OK _ Cancel_

I Have not made any changes to any settings in either SeaMonkey or 
Mozilla since they originally set a long while ago.  I then typed in my 
password and this is the next message that appeared.


Login to account failed
Login to server smtp.verizon.net with username .failed.

I then clicked cancel and got this message.

SeaMonkey Message - Test
Status: Connected to smtp.verizon.net
Progress
Cancel

The green bar after Progress never closes, so I clicked Cancel.

I called AOL today and (after waiting for over 2 hours on the phone 
waiting for a human to pick up the phone, and another almost 3 hours 
today before someone picked up the phone.  I told them about my problem 
and then I was told that I had a general help desk and that I needed to 
talk to a technician,  This person then proceeded to tell me that I 
could not speak to a technician until I purchased a technical support 
plan ($14.99).  After some wrangling, He said that having this plan was 
the only way to get technical help...he then offered my the first 30 
days free.  I gave in knowing that I needed help and that I could cancel 
the technical support plan before the end of the 30 day period. Well I 
wsthen on hold for another 3 hours when I finally got to speak to a 
technician.  He said that he was going to have to delete all messages in 
my Inbox, Drafts, and Trash before he could work on the problem. He 
wanted to know whether I had a data backup plan...and I said no.  the 
then said that I needed to backup these files before he did any work on 
my system.  That is where he stopped helping me.  (((Please note, I was 
on the phone yesterday evening waiting for 3 hours for somebody to help 
me...I was then cot off and got a recorded message that the office was 
closed for the day and that I could get help from the AOL help pages,)


A long story for no help.

I can receive downloads on my computer without any problem.  I can click 
on web addresses and they work.  Another action that did occur during my 
talk with the AOL technician was one of his showing me that a message 
could be sent through AOL and that it would work..and it did.  Thus, the 
only thing not working on my computer is sending email messages via 
SeaMonkey or Mozilla.


I would appreciate any help you send my way on this subject.

Windows 10 - SeaMonkey 2.531


Frog






Well, I now have the answer to all of the items covered in this thread 
and now must start on a new thread.  I am going to bore you for a moment 
in order to help someone else who might be going through the problems I 
have been facing. So here goes the end of this thread:


Part 1:  I really thought that I was dealing with a virus or malware on 
my computer; but I didn't want accept this thought, since I have had my 
present virus scan software (WebRoot) on my system for years; and it has 
never let me down.  As I stated in one of my messages, I did want to 
weed a virus or malware possibility out of the picture...thus, I did a 
complete scan of my entire system (6.5 hours of scanning); and no bad 
things were found on my system.  I then sent a message to the WebRoot 
people, and they had me forward the results of my scan to them for 
analysis.  They informed me, after their scan was completed, that my 
system did not have a virus or malware problem...it was completely 
clean.  They suggested that I contact Verizon (which remains a part of 
my email address) for help.  I thought about it and decided that a 
conversation with Verizon might take less that a few minutes; however, 
the wait to talk to somebody might take hours of waiting.  I then turned 
to the internet for help.


Part 2:  The second part pertains to what I found on the internet.  Here 
is that information:


Verizon Email Retirement
"Verizon has retired our (their) email service.  We have completed our 
notifications regarding this change; and customers no longer have the 
option to keep their Verizon.net email address or extract and move their 
data to another service provider.(((I don't recall ever receiving a 
notification as stated above.)))
Here is the web address where you might want to read more about this 
Verizon Email Retirement;


https://www.verizon.com/support/consumer/email

I bel

Re: SM 2.53.1 and SM 2.49.5

[alexyu]

NFN Smith wrote, on 07 Apr 20 11:42:


xxyyz wrote:


I have SM 2.49.5 32 bit on WXP and 64 bit on W7, and have been
synching them by copying the Mozilla folders (C:\Documents and
Settings\username\Mozilla on WXP, C:\Users\username\AppData\Roaming
\Mozilla on W7) to and fro, with no problems.

If I put SM 2.53.1 64 bit on the W7 machine, will I still be able
to do this?


If you're doing this kind of activity to allow you to have your mail on 
more than one machine, you really need to move to IMAP, where your mail 
is stored on the server.  Even if it is technically possible to copy 
your profiles back and forth between two machines, Seamonkey was never 
designed to work that way.  Conversely, IMAP is designed this kind of 
condition.


I have a similar setup, with one important difference:  Both OS's (WXP & 
W7) are on separate partitions on dual-boot one disk, and I have SM and 
FF on both, with just one profile (on a non-standard location) for each 
'set' (one for both SM's, one for both FF's .  I also periodically copy 
select data from one set to the other, but that's secondary here).


Considering other points in this thread, this setup is not just "to have 
[my] mail on more than one machine", but much more:  To have a seamless 
browser/email experience on the two OS's (because I use each one for 
different purposes, but want to have that possibility).  Also, this 
setup uses SM 2.49.5 and FF ESR 52.7.4 and is expected to 'stop there', 
since I have dozens of AddOns I want to keep using, and most of them 
will no longer work on newer releases (yes, even SM 2.53).


When I first implemented this, I knew that some files in the Profile 
used 'physical' addresses but, since the Profile would be accessed by 
any OS in any order, I hoped that SM/FF would automatically handle this 
(a behavior I noticed during tries towards this setup), and it seems to 
work flawlessly (except for a few Extensions) so far.


The statement that "SeaMonkey was never designed to work that way" 
brought this back for me, since I also imagined that this was true, but 
see that nevertheless it DOES "work that way" for me -- and, since I 
have never seen any information about this, I'd like to know if anyone 
can furnish any, and warn of any potential problems with this setup.


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Re: Problem with Data Manager

[Bill Spikowski]

mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote:

Mark B wrote:

Windows 10
SM 23.49.5

The SM Data Manager on my wife's machine isn't working right.  When it's called 
up, there's a long period of not allowing any entry in the 'Search Domains' 
field, followed by more time where it says (Not Responding) when it goes dim, 
then after about 45 seconds, allowing entry in the 'Search Domains' field, and 
everything is working.  This happens every time it is called.

Any ideas?


 From the release notes 
:


If you experience a hang and/or get a message box that a script is busy when 
opening the Data Manager try deleting the webappsstore.* files from your 
profile folder when SeaMonkey is not running. These files contain data stored 
by web sites and will be recreated during the next start. If you are unsure if 
the information is needed please back up the files before deleting them. The 
problem is tracked in bug 1305624 but so far no coding error has been found. 
This problem is been reported frequently when trying to manage passwords. But 
the problem will generally happen just after you open the Data Manager, because 
this component is also used for managing cookies, site preferences permissions 
and other settings.






THANK YOU FOR POINTING OUT THIS TIP!

My existing webappsstore.sqlite file was 35 MB. After deleting it, it was 
recreated at only 32 KB.

Now the data manager works again -- the way it did many years ago!
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Useragent question - in about:config

[Geoff Welsh]

Is general.useragent.extra.seamonkey no longer functional?

I had written (at some point);  Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 
10.13; rv:61.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/74.0



but when I check at- 
https://www.whatismybrowser.com/detect/what-is-my-user-agent



it shows me Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.13; rv:60.0) 
Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.53.1 Lightning/5.8.1


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Re: Small problem with mails / 2.53.1

[jcteyssier1]

Le samedi 11 avril 2020 14:25:09 UTC+2, Frank-Rainer Grahl a écrit :

> Lightbird 0.7.1 usually seems to cause it.
> 
> FRG
Thank you! Effectively i have Ligthbird installed. Deactivating it correct all.
I will not use it anymore.

Jean-Charles
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Re: Small problem with mails / 2.53.1

[Frank-Rainer Grahl]

jcteyssi...@gmail.com wrote:

Le samedi 11 avril 2020 12:56:00 UTC+2, jctey...@gmail.com a écrit :

Hello group,

since switch from 2.149.5 to 2.53.1 official, i have a strange behavior in 
mails.
Clicking on a folder (say inbox) does not show the folder content: i have first to 
click on mail account (say: mymailmyprovider.com) then on folder to see it.
My profile is on on NAS so i accessed it from two computers (not 
simultaneously, of course)
I have 3 mail account and follows news.mozzila.org / m.s.seamonkey two.
All same problem.

What i can say (and suspect this is the root cause) is :
Before switching from 2.49.25 to 2.53.1 on computer "A", i made a copy of my 
profile on NAS.
Then i remove 2.49.5, install 2.53.1 and point at NAS profile(editing 
profiles.ini with text editor).
I think the problem starts when i open computer "B" and forget to migrate from 
2.49.5 to 2.53.1: i open Seamonkey and i get the message of profile migration.
Returning on computer "A " is OK. Since this; i have both computers with 
Seamonkey 2.53.1 so this specific problem will not occur any more.
But now i still have the strange behavior described a begin of this message.

Does any one knows how to fix it? I do not want restore from my copy of 2.49.5 
profile because i will lost emails from this date, new bookmarks and new 
passwords stored.

Jean-Charles, from France


Forgot: win 10 pro on both computers.




Lightbird 0.7.1 usually seems to cause it.

FRG
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Re: Problem with Data Manager

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Mark B wrote:

Windows 10
SM 23.49.5

The SM Data Manager on my wife's machine isn't working right.  When it's 
called up, there's a long period of not allowing any entry in the 
'Search Domains' field, followed by more time where it says (Not 
Responding) when it goes dim, then after about 45 seconds, allowing 
entry in the 'Search Domains' field, and everything is working.  This 
happens every time it is called.


Any ideas?


From the release notes 
:



If you experience a hang and/or get a message box that a script is busy when 
opening the Data Manager try deleting the webappsstore.* files from your 
profile folder when SeaMonkey is not running. These files contain data stored 
by web sites and will be recreated during the next start. If you are unsure if 
the information is needed please back up the files before deleting them. The 
problem is tracked in bug 1305624 but so far no coding error has been found. 
This problem is been reported frequently when trying to manage passwords. But 
the problem will generally happen just after you open the Data Manager, because 
this component is also used for managing cookies, site preferences permissions 
and other settings.


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Re: Small problem with mails / 2.53.1

[jcteyssier1]

Le samedi 11 avril 2020 12:56:00 UTC+2, jctey...@gmail.com a écrit :
> Hello group,
> 
> since switch from 2.149.5 to 2.53.1 official, i have a strange behavior in 
> mails.
> Clicking on a folder (say inbox) does not show the folder content: i have 
> first to click on mail account (say: mymailmyprovider.com) then on folder 
> to see it.
> My profile is on on NAS so i accessed it from two computers (not 
> simultaneously, of course)
> I have 3 mail account and follows news.mozzila.org / m.s.seamonkey two.
> All same problem.
> 
> What i can say (and suspect this is the root cause) is :
> Before switching from 2.49.25 to 2.53.1 on computer "A", i made a copy of my 
> profile on NAS.
> Then i remove 2.49.5, install 2.53.1 and point at NAS profile(editing 
> profiles.ini with text editor).
> I think the problem starts when i open computer "B" and forget to migrate 
> from 2.49.5 to 2.53.1: i open Seamonkey and i get the message of profile 
> migration.
> Returning on computer "A " is OK. Since this; i have both computers with 
> Seamonkey 2.53.1 so this specific problem will not occur any more.
> But now i still have the strange behavior described a begin of this message.
> 
> Does any one knows how to fix it? I do not want restore from my copy of 
> 2.49.5 profile because i will lost emails from this date, new bookmarks and 
> new passwords stored.
> 
> Jean-Charles, from France

Forgot: win 10 pro on both computers.
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Small problem with mails / 2.53.1

[jcteyssier1]

Hello group,

since switch from 2.149.5 to 2.53.1 official, i have a strange behavior in 
mails.
Clicking on a folder (say inbox) does not show the folder content: i have first 
to click on mail account (say: mymailmyprovider.com) then on folder to see 
it.
My profile is on on NAS so i accessed it from two computers (not 
simultaneously, of course)
I have 3 mail account and follows news.mozzila.org / m.s.seamonkey two.
All same problem.

What i can say (and suspect this is the root cause) is :
Before switching from 2.49.25 to 2.53.1 on computer "A", i made a copy of my 
profile on NAS.
Then i remove 2.49.5, install 2.53.1 and point at NAS profile(editing 
profiles.ini with text editor).
I think the problem starts when i open computer "B" and forget to migrate from 
2.49.5 to 2.53.1: i open Seamonkey and i get the message of profile migration.
Returning on computer "A " is OK. Since this; i have both computers with 
Seamonkey 2.53.1 so this specific problem will not occur any more.
But now i still have the strange behavior described a begin of this message.

Does any one knows how to fix it? I do not want restore from my copy of 2.49.5 
profile because i will lost emails from this date, new bookmarks and new 
passwords stored.

Jean-Charles, from France
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Re: How to set Seamonkey as the default e-mail app/tool/client in Windows 10

[d . e . r . b]

Am Mittwoch, 8. April 2020 16:20:02 UTC+2 schrieb Lemuel Johnson:
> On 4/8/2020 6:55 AM, d.e@mail.pcom.de wrote:
> > In the versions previous to 2.3.5.1 it was possible to choose and set 
> > Seamonkey as the default e-mail app/tool/client in Windows 10. But when 
> > opening the default apps settings in Windows Seamonkey mail is not 
> > available anymore.
> > 
> > Is there any workaround?
> > 
> > RB
> > 
> 
> On my Windows 10 system Seamonkey is listed as an option for default 
> mail app, along with Mail, Windows Live Mail, Google Chrome(??) and 
> "Look for an app in the Microsoft Store".  No workaround needed.
> 
> Lem Johnson

I have solved the problem.
You have to make in Preferences under Mail@Newsgroups SM the default 
application for Mail.
The same for the browser.
Then it will be avaible in the Windows App settings.

RB
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Re: Problem with Data Manager

[Don Spam's Reckless Son]

Mark B wrote:

Windows 10
SM 23.49.5

The SM Data Manager on my wife's machine isn't working right.  When it's 
called up, there's a long period of not allowing any entry in the 
'Search Domains' field, followed by more time where it says (Not 
Responding) when it goes dim, then after about 45 seconds, allowing 
entry in the 'Search Domains' field, and everything is working.  This 
happens every time it is called.


Any ideas?


I have 2.49.4 on this machine, another one with 2.49.5 behaves similarly.
My experience with Data Manager is that it takes a while to start - 
probably because it is setting up a "view" or two - but then works fine. 
 The big difference is that yours takes a lot longer.  I just timed it 
here and came up with a figure of 7-8 seconds, this is not enough to 
trigger the "Not Responding" either.

Looking at my profile:
- cookies.sqlite is 2MB
- kinto.sqlite is 2MB (what is THAT?)
- permissions.sqlite is 1MB and a year old
- places.sqlite is almost 42MB
- webappstore.sqlite is 44MB and probably irrelevant here
Everything else is either old or smaller.
My machine has enough processor capacity and enough memory (8GB). My 
data is on a rotating disc rather than an SSD, an SSD would presumably 
be much faster.


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