Re: Plugin for Seamonkey

[David E. Ross]

On 6/9/2020 7:34 PM, Andy K wrote:
> Is there a plugin for Seamonkey that can download the audio portion of videos 
> on YouTube?
> 
> I am using Ubuntu_Mate 18.04
> 
> Thanks,
> Andy
> 

Instead of a plugin, consider ClipGrab at .  If
you scroll down that Web page a little more than half way, you will find
a version for Ubuntu on the right side.

I use Windows.  I download the Windows version and then disable my
Internet connection before installing ClipGrab.  That way, I block the
installation of third-party nagware, which some consider to be malware.
I do not know if that installation approach is necessary for Ubuntu.

Once ClipGrab is installed, you start the playing of a YouTube
performance.  Copy the URI and paste it into the top input area on
ClipGrab's Downloads tab.  Initially, the Format selection list is
grayed-out.  It becomes available after ClipGrab has analyzed the URI.
Then, you can select the format.  There are three format choices that
are audio-only: MP3, OGG Vorbis, and original.  (There are two choices
for "original": video and audio-only.)

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Plugin for Seamonkey

[Andy K]

Is there a plugin for Seamonkey that can download the audio portion of videos 
on YouTube?

I am using Ubuntu_Mate 18.04

Thanks,
Andy
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Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.1 and Extensions

[Rubens via support-seamonkey]

David E. Ross wrote on 01/03/2020 18:21:

On 3/1/2020 3:36 AM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:



David E. Ross wrote:

On 2/29/2020 3:08 PM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 x64

I installed the x64 SeaMonkey 2.53.1 over the x64 SeaMonkey 2.49.5.
While the Add-ons Manager indicated all my extensions were still
enabled, the set of buttons in Toolbar Buttons 1.1.1 was missing.  That
included buttons added from the Toolbar Buttons Web site that are not
included in the extension's default set.

fortunately, I saved not only my profiles but also my passwords.  I have
reverted to x64 SeaMonkey 2.49.5.



Toolbar Buttons 1.1.1 is incompatible. therube mentioned that 1.0.2.1 works.

http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=6=3058809

FRG



I have 1.0.2 archived but not 1.0.2.1.  I do not see 1.0.2 listed among
old versions of the extension.  Other than 1.0.2.1 being signed, is
there a difference between 1.0.2 and 1.0.2.1?



Don't know:

https://addons.thunderbird.net/en-us/thunderbird/addon/toolbar-buttons/versions/?page=1#version-1.0.2.1-signed.1-signed



I cannot find a link to download 1.0.2.1 at that Web page or elsewhere.



Interestingly the page section title mentions version 1.0.2.1 but its 
corresponding button downloads version 1.0.2

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Re: What's the highest memory usage you have seen from your seamonkey.exe in Windows?

[Paul in Houston, TX]

Ant wrote:
Mine went over 3 GB of RAM for its working set, 4.5 GB for its peak 
working set, and almost 30K of page faults. It was mostly caused by many 
tabs of YouTube.com in my decade old, updated 64-bit W7 HPE SP1 PC (6 GB 
of RAM). :(


Thank you for reading and hopefully answering. :)


I have never seen mine above 650k.

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Re: What's the highest memory usage you have seen from your seamonkey.exe in Windows?

[Gerry Hickman via support-seamonkey]

Ant wrote:

Mine went over 3 GB of RAM for its working set, 4.5 GB for its peak 
working set, and almost 30K of page faults. It was mostly caused by many 
tabs of YouTube.com in my decade old, updated 64-bit W7 HPE SP1 PC (6 GB 
of RAM). :(


Well, youtube is supposed to be for watching videos, so I can't imagine 
why you'd need more than one tab open, but yes, everyone knows that if 
you visit huge data sucking sites that run thousands of "affiliate" 
scripts, then bad things will happen.


Memory use can be a bit misleading anyway, because modern applications 
will sometimes keep huge chunks of memory in the background "in case 
they're suddenly needed", trying to trick the user into thinking they're 
getting better performance. However, a well written app should free the 
memory when it closes.


I don't know how you measured it, but there's a really good extension in 
Seamonkey called "SeaMonkey Debug and QA UI", that shows you what's 
going on inside the browser, including memory, and there's even a menu 
item where you can "Flush Memory".



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Re: What's the highest memory usage you have seen from your seamonkey.exe in Windows?

[WaltS48]

On 6/9/20 3:16 PM, Ant wrote:
Mine went over 3 GB of RAM for its working set, 4.5 GB for its peak 
working set, and almost 30K of page faults. It was mostly caused by many 
tabs of YouTube.com in my decade old, updated 64-bit W7 HPE SP1 PC (6 GB 
of RAM). :(


Thank you for reading and hopefully answering. :)


I don't pay attention to CPU or memory usage with any of my browsers or 
email applications. I'm pretty sure they haven't gone over 500 MB. If 
they even get there.


Then we may not be using our browsers in the same way. I rarely go to 
YouTube.


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Re: Foxit PDF Reader Plugin

[Rob Steinmetz]

rob wrote:



I just checked my Windows 10 Home laptop and it works as expected. I get 
a prompt to open an email attachment and it does. I don't get that on my 
Windows 7 desktop.


I've now fixed my problem. I removed and reinstalled foxit PDF Reader. I 
also had to set the Helper app for PDF.
Fnally I discovered that Foxit has removed the Print to PDF from Foxit 
Reader 10


Thanks for the Help.
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What's the highest memory usage you have seen from your seamonkey.exe in Windows?

[Ant]

Mine went over 3 GB of RAM for its working set, 4.5 GB for its peak 
working set, and almost 30K of page faults. It was mostly caused by many 
tabs of YouTube.com in my decade old, updated 64-bit W7 HPE SP1 PC (6 GB 
of RAM). :(


Thank you for reading and hopefully answering. :)
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Re: Foxit PDF Reader Plugin

[rodney via support-seamonkey]

Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:

rodney wrote:

Rob Steinmetz wrote:

Rob Steinmetz wrote:

Is it possible to install the Foxit PDF Reader Plugin in Seamonkey?
If how?

Sorry, posted too quick.

Foxit is installed and listed in the helper application but PDFs do 
not open in the Browser of as email attachments. The plugin is not 
installed. I downloaded the Firefox Plugin but it won't install. I 
get an error message about having configured Foxit to automatically 
download upgrades


I assume your using Windows 7/8/10.
The latest foxit is FoxitReader971_Setup_Prom_IS.exe
What Firefox Plugin did you download.


Rob is using Windows 7 (that is what the "Windows NT 6.1" in the 
User-Agent string means).



My news doesn't show user agent strings.
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Re: What is YouTube doing!?

[Frank-Rainer Grahl]

NFN Smith wrote:

meagain wrote:


Will SeaMonkey fans ('SM lovers' didn't sound right) really have to 
use a different User-Agent for each and every web sight?


- meagain


I use a user-agent override that claims to be Firefox 62.  That works 
well for me.




What is a user-agent override and how do I get (and use/install) it?


Unfortunately, for a growing number of web sites, Seamonkey is regarded as 
dead (or at least irrelevant). There's just not enough users for the sites to 
care about.  It doesn't help when Seamonkey 2.53 is still based on Firefox 
versions older than 57.0 -- there's a growing number of sites that are 
rejecting connections Firefox versions that are 56 and older. To that end, I 
know that the User Agent string for Seamonkey 2.53.2 is set to show Firefox 60.




Basically these are just numbers. What is important is features. Firefox 57 
didn't just magically turn into a speed boat. Quantum was just marketing. Most 
of it was already in 56. Feature wise SeaMonkey is between 57 and 61 right now 
with a bunch of newer fixes for security and website compatibility in. More to 
come. But you just can't compete with an organization doing nothing but meddle 
with code the whole day. Fortunately affected websites which I care about are 
not affected right now. Youtube and goolge services is just dross for me. They 
are not free and only want my personal data or sell me things I don't want. 
And for the occasional youtube video SM still works fine.


As for Google, they have their own ideas of what they want to do with their 
content (especially YouTube), and you should assume that a lot of it is going 
to be optimized to run in Chrome.  I don't do a lot with YouTube, so I haven't 
seen problems.  On the other hand, I know that I've seen Frank-Rainier Grahl 
note that for stuff he does with YouTube, it's faster/easier to just use 
Chrome for that, rather than fighting with known limitations of Seamonkey.


See above. Nothing I care about.

Remember, there's nothing that requires you to use one browser exclusively for 
everything. Although I don't like Chrome, I can certainly see a valid approach 
in using Chrome for YouTube, if that's what it takes to get YouTube to do what 
I want.


Correct.

In a similar way, because I do a lot of tweaking to my primary Seamonkey 
profile, with strict handling on cookies, and liberal use of uBlock Origin and 
NoScript, there's a number of sites (especially eCommerce) that I can't get to 
behave adequately without an undue amount of wrestling.  I generally assume 
that those kinds of problems are predominantly related to my profile, rather 
than more general problems with Seamonkey, and for that I have a Firefox 
profile that's mostly untweaked, where I will use that for a one-off session 
to get done what I need.


So far I don't have many problems here. Usually this can be fixed quite fast 
by temporary whiltelisting of sites in NoScript and uBlock.


FRG

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Re: What is YouTube doing!?

[NFN Smith]

meagain wrote:


Will SeaMonkey fans ('SM lovers' didn't sound right) really have to 
use a different User-Agent for each and every web sight?


- meagain


I use a user-agent override that claims to be Firefox 62.  That works 
well for me.




What is a user-agent override and how do I get (and use/install) it?


Unfortunately, for a growing number of web sites, Seamonkey is regarded 
as dead (or at least irrelevant). There's just not enough users for the 
sites to care about.  It doesn't help when Seamonkey 2.53 is still based 
on Firefox versions older than 57.0 -- there's a growing number of sites 
that are rejecting connections Firefox versions that are 56 and older. 
To that end, I know that the User Agent string for Seamonkey 2.53.2 is 
set to show Firefox 60.


Google has been a problem for some time, where the normal Seamonkey UA 
string causes a funny display in the search bar at www.google.com.  Not 
really a problem, but annoying.  I can get around that with browser 
spoofing, where I have an entry in about:config where I set 
general.useragent.override.google.com to show:


  Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/68.0


(with no mention of Seamonkey).  I've done similar with a couple of 
other sites don't like a stock Seamonkey UA, where I show:


  Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/60.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.2


where I did site-specifics general.useragent.override entries.  I did 
these sites before Seamonkey configs were updated to show Firefox 60, so 
they may not be necessary now.


As for Google, they have their own ideas of what they want to do with 
their content (especially YouTube), and you should assume that a lot of 
it is going to be optimized to run in Chrome.  I don't do a lot with 
YouTube, so I haven't seen problems.  On the other hand, I know that 
I've seen Frank-Rainier Grahl note that for stuff he does with YouTube, 
it's faster/easier to just use Chrome for that, rather than fighting 
with known limitations of Seamonkey.


Remember, there's nothing that requires you to use one browser 
exclusively for everything. Although I don't like Chrome, I can 
certainly see a valid approach in using Chrome for YouTube, if that's 
what it takes to get YouTube to do what I want.


In a similar way, because I do a lot of tweaking to my primary Seamonkey 
profile, with strict handling on cookies, and liberal use of uBlock 
Origin and NoScript, there's a number of sites (especially eCommerce) 
that I can't get to behave adequately without an undue amount of 
wrestling.  I generally assume that those kinds of problems are 
predominantly related to my profile, rather than more general problems 
with Seamonkey, and for that I have a Firefox profile that's mostly 
untweaked, where I will use that for a one-off session to get done what 
I need.


Smith
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Re: Reorganizing inoming mail folders -- existing tools?

[Richard Owlett]

On 06/09/2020 07:29 AM, WaltS48 wrote:

On 6/8/20 7:14 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:

On 06/08/2020 04:08 AM, Daniel wrote:

Richard Owlett wrote on 7/06/2020 8:24 PM:

I been on some mailing lists since the days of Netscape.
I am now on approximately two dozen mass mailing lists.
The method for forming a "Filter Name" has varied over the years.

My primary need is a list containing "Filter Name" and associated 
filter criteria. It would be nice to have a second list with "Filter 
Name" and "action performed".


Comments or suggestions?
TIA



Isn't that the way it currently works in SeaMonkey??

1    Navigate into your message filters screen (Tools->Message Filters)
2.    Select what you want the Filter for (Entire News Account or a 
particular group on that Account).

3.    Give the Filter a name.
4.    select what you want that filter to do.

But then, as you specifically mention "mailing lists", as distinct 
from my applying the filters to News Groups on the News Servers, 
maybe these filters don't work on Mail Lists!!




ROFL &/or GROAN
I have ~40 filters defined. SeaMonkey allows you to look at only one 
at a time and they are listed in priority order.


I want to put all that information in a single text file.





Those are already in a file called msgFilterRules.dat that can be opened 
in a text editor.


Each account in the profile will have that file.

If you have more than one msgFilterRules.dat file per account. You could 
probably open one at a time and copy the information into a new text file.


I'm not sure how that works. All my filters are created from the account 
level so I can see them all in order in SeaMonkey and Thunderbird.




*THANK YOU!*
I have one file with 38 rules. The file is arranged such that it should 
be relatively to create an editor macro to convert to CSV format for 
convenient viewing and manipulation.

Than you again.


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Re: Seamonkey 2.53.2

[Gerry Hickman via support-seamonkey]

stango wrote:


Oops, make that Tools>Add-ons Manager>Extensions.


OK, I see it now.

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Re: Reorganizing inoming mail folders -- existing tools?

[WaltS48]

On 6/8/20 7:14 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:

On 06/08/2020 04:08 AM, Daniel wrote:

Richard Owlett wrote on 7/06/2020 8:24 PM:

I been on some mailing lists since the days of Netscape.
I am now on approximately two dozen mass mailing lists.
The method for forming a "Filter Name" has varied over the years.

My primary need is a list containing "Filter Name" and associated 
filter criteria. It would be nice to have a second list with "Filter 
Name" and "action performed".


Comments or suggestions?
TIA



Isn't that the way it currently works in SeaMonkey??

1    Navigate into your message filters screen (Tools->Message Filters)
2.    Select what you want the Filter for (Entire News Account or a 
particular group on that Account).

3.    Give the Filter a name.
4.    select what you want that filter to do.

But then, as you specifically mention "mailing lists", as distinct 
from my applying the filters to News Groups on the News Servers, maybe 
these filters don't work on Mail Lists!!




ROFL &/or GROAN
I have ~40 filters defined. SeaMonkey allows you to look at only one at 
a time and they are listed in priority order.


I want to put all that information in a single text file.





Those are already in a file called msgFilterRules.dat that can be opened 
in a text editor.


Each account in the profile will have that file.

If you have more than one msgFilterRules.dat file per account. You could 
probably open one at a time and copy the information into a new text file.


I'm not sure how that works. All my filters are created from the account 
level so I can see them all in order in SeaMonkey and Thunderbird.


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Re: Reorganizing inoming mail folders -- existing tools?

[Richard Owlett]

On 06/09/2020 04:07 AM, Daniel wrote:

Richard Owlett wrote on 8/06/2020 9:14 PM:

On 06/08/2020 04:08 AM, Daniel wrote:

Richard Owlett wrote on 7/06/2020 8:24 PM:

I been on some mailing lists since the days of Netscape.
I am now on approximately two dozen mass mailing lists.
The method for forming a "Filter Name" has varied over the years.

My primary need is a list containing "Filter Name" and associated 
filter criteria. It would be nice to have a second list with "Filter 
Name" and "action performed".


Comments or suggestions?
TIA


Isn't that the way it currently works in SeaMonkey??

1    Navigate into your message filters screen (Tools->Message Filters)
2.    Select what you want the Filter for (Entire News Account or a 
particular group on that Account).

3.    Give the Filter a name.
4.    select what you want that filter to do.

But then, as you specifically mention "mailing lists", as distinct 
from my applying the filters to News Groups on the News Servers, 
maybe these filters don't work on Mail Lists!!


ROFL &/or GROAN
I have ~40 filters defined. SeaMonkey allows you to look at only one 
at a time and they are listed in priority order.


I want to put all that information in a single text file.

Ah!! O.K., so you, basically, want to export your filters into a text 
file, maybe, so you can see what's what!!


EXACTLY!
{Chair of the university's freshman English program declared my 
composition skills to be literally hopeless in 1961 ;}




Sorry, beyond my very limited expertise!! ;-P



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Re: Reorganizing inoming mail folders -- existing tools?

[Daniel]

Richard Owlett wrote on 8/06/2020 9:14 PM:

On 06/08/2020 04:08 AM, Daniel wrote:

Richard Owlett wrote on 7/06/2020 8:24 PM:

I been on some mailing lists since the days of Netscape.
I am now on approximately two dozen mass mailing lists.
The method for forming a "Filter Name" has varied over the years.

My primary need is a list containing "Filter Name" and associated 
filter criteria. It would be nice to have a second list with "Filter 
Name" and "action performed".


Comments or suggestions?
TIA


Isn't that the way it currently works in SeaMonkey??

1    Navigate into your message filters screen (Tools->Message Filters)
2.    Select what you want the Filter for (Entire News Account or a 
particular group on that Account).

3.    Give the Filter a name.
4.    select what you want that filter to do.

But then, as you specifically mention "mailing lists", as distinct 
from my applying the filters to News Groups on the News Servers, maybe 
these filters don't work on Mail Lists!!


ROFL &/or GROAN
I have ~40 filters defined. SeaMonkey allows you to look at only one at 
a time and they are listed in priority order.


I want to put all that information in a single text file.

Ah!! O.K., so you, basically, want to export your filters into a text 
file, maybe, so you can see what's what!!


Sorry, beyond my very limited expertise!! ;-P
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