Re: Ctrl-D window size

[Dirk Fieldhouse]

On 27/01/2021 01:43, Ray Davison wrote:

... >

Your 13/1, I got lost at "Classic Add-on Archive enabled".


Read here 
.


Download archive extension here  
(specifically the Releases page, currently v2.03 
).


Then Tools>Classic Add-on Archive.

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Re: Ctrl-D window size

[Ray Davison]

Dirk Fieldhouse wrote:

On 26/01/2021 19:12, Ray Davison wrote:


... >
That answers my where question, now how?


Your entire question was actually answered in my posts of 12/1 and 13/1. 
Have another look -- follow the link in the 1st post for a 
userChrome.css example, or install the extension mentioned in the 2nd post.


Regarding your 12/1, I think I was running thru things too fast and 
missed the link.  I will try what is discussed there.


Your 13/1, I got lost at "Classic Add-on Archive enabled".

Ray


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Re: Ctrl-D window size

[Dirk Fieldhouse]

On 26/01/2021 19:12, Ray Davison wrote:


... >
That answers my where question, now how?


Your entire question was actually answered in my posts of 12/1 and 13/1. 
Have another look -- follow the link in the 1st post for a 
userChrome.css example, or install the extension mentioned in the 2nd post.


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Re: Ctrl-D window size

[Ray Davison]

EE wrote:

Ray Davison wrote:


If the above is true, then somewhere the size and location are hard 
coded.  Therefore size and position are editable.  Where and how?


I changed the size of the bookmarks panel and the bookmarks manager 
window with code in a userChrome.css file.


That answers my where question, now how?

Ray

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Re: Seamonkey 2.53.6 - why does it block ad blocking and tracking blocking

[EE]

Bret Busby wrote:

Hello.

I am running
"
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/60.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.6

Build identifier: 20210118013008
"
on UbuntuMATE Linux 20.10.

Seamonkey does not allow ad blocking plugins like Adblock Plus and 
Adblock Ultimate, etc, that are allowed by Firefox, and, a plugin name 
"Bluehell Firewall" that apparently does ad blocking and tracking 
blocking, is "not compatible with your version of Seamonkey.


A strip had been appearing across the top of the window, for a 
particular web site, and, it had displayed
"Parts of the page that track your online activity were blocked Blocking>"


In using a wireless mouse, that goes to sleep, when not in use, and, 
which requires to be clicked, to awaken it, in one instance, after 
logging in to the computer again, and, clicking the mouse, to awaken it, 
it apparently clicked on the "Unblock" option, which was then, 
implemented without confirmation being requested, and, I cannot restore 
the tracking blocking for that web site, and, so, now, I have even more 
problems with that web site, more than usual. It is one of those web 
site that can be useful when it behaves itself, but, is otherwise, 
problematic (and, apparently, as is revealed, a bit malicious).


The strip across the top of the window, no longer appears for that web 
site, and, in going into the web browser preferences, I can not find a 
way to restore the ad  blocking and tracking blocking, for that web site.


Why is Seamonkey blocking the ad blocking and he tracking blocking?

Why does Seamonkey not allow the plugins that  have mentioned, to work 
with this version of Seamonkey?


In that strip that no longer is displayed for that web site, on another 
web page, where the strip is displayed (sinister state government 
parliamentary web site), clicking on the Preferences button in the 
strip, to find whether I can remove the unblocking for the offending 
URL, has no effect; the "Preferences" button only takes me to the 
Preferences -> Privacy & Security menu.


And, in the Preferences -> Privacy & Security menu, are the two options;
"()Prevent tracking activities by known sites
() Warn me when known tracking activities were detected"
with the second option being able to be implemented, only when the first 
option is implemented.


But, unchecking both of those, and, then, checking them again, does not 
restore the ad blocking and tracking blocking, where it was 
inadvertently unblocked.


And, no option is apparent, for listing/editing blocked or unblocked web 
sites or URL's.


It is not plugins, but extensions that do the ad and tracking blocking. 
uBlock Origin still works well with SeaMonkey.


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Re: An important site that doesn't work with SeaMonkey

[David H. Durgee]

Ray Davison wrote:

David H. Durgee wrote:



I have no problem using the Chase web site as long as I tell them I am 
Firefox 68 via the User Agent option of PrefBar.  They are the only 
site I use regularly that requires me to pretend to be other than 
SeaMonkey, although others complain about using an "unsupported" browser.


This from the Pref Bar site.  Is there an option?

"⚠ Please be aware, that PrefBar is no longer maintained! It is not 
recommend to install any of these versions!
They most probably don't work well with current versions of SeaMonkey 
and they won't install at all on Firefox 57 and above! "


I have been using PrefBar for years, but there are other user agent 
switchers available as well.  As you see from another post in this 
thread you can also create a user.js entry to accomplish this on either 
a per site or general basis.


To answer a question you ask in that branch, yes similar entries MIGHT 
work at other domains.  I say MIGHT as the question then becomes have 
they started using features of Firefox that our current level of 
SeaMonkey does not yet implement?  If so, then the site might not look 
the same or in extreme cases might not work right.


So there is no answer to all sites other than to use a browser they 
specifically identify as supported by them in the case they actually 
make use of features supported only in those browsers.  Fortunately in 
most cases they are simply being lazy and don't want their "technical 
support" people to have to answer questions for any but a handful of 
"supported" browsers.  In those cases pretending to have that browser 
suffices to get by.


Dave
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Re: An important site that doesn't work with SeaMonkey

[Ray Davison]

David H. Durgee wrote:



I have no problem using the Chase web site as long as I tell them I am 
Firefox 68 via the User Agent option of PrefBar.  They are the only site 
I use regularly that requires me to pretend to be other than SeaMonkey, 
although others complain about using an "unsupported" browser.


This from the Pref Bar site.  Is there an option?

"⚠ Please be aware, that PrefBar is no longer maintained! It is not 
recommend to install any of these versions!
They most probably don't work well with current versions of SeaMonkey 
and they won't install at all on Firefox 57 and above! "



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Re: An important site that doesn't work with SeaMonkey

[Ray Davison]

Lemuel Johnson via support-seamonkey wrote:

On 1/25/2021 12:36 PM, Ray Davison wrote:

 I cannot use SM at Chase.


Chase works for me with:
general.useragent.override.chase.com:  Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; 
Win64; x64; rv:81.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/81.0


Every few months I have to update the "rv" and "Firefox" levels.


I pasted that into user.js, and Chase seems to work.

If I swap chase for some other bank's domain should that one stop 
complaining about unsupported?


TY
Ray

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Re: Seamonkey 2.53.6 - why does it block ad blocking and tracking blocking

[NFN Smith]

Bret Busby wrote:

Hello.

I am running
"
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/60.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.6

Build identifier: 20210118013008
"
on UbuntuMATE Linux 20.10.

Seamonkey does not allow ad blocking plugins like Adblock Plus and 
Adblock Ultimate, etc, that are allowed by Firefox, and, a plugin name 
"Bluehell Firewall" that apparently does ad blocking and tracking 
blocking, is "not compatible with your version of Seamonkey.


The difference between "plugin" and "extension" is important.  A plugin 
is something that is installed as a stand-alone tool through the normal 
software installation processes of your operating system, and then makes 
itself available to run from inside Seamonkey.  An extension is 
something that's installed from inside the browser.  As far as I'm 
aware, the only plugin that Seamonkey 2.53.6 supports is Adobe Flash, 
and I believe that the developers are planning to remove that support in 
an upcoming version (perhaps as early as 2.53.7).


For extension problems, I believe that you're bumping into the Mozilla 
architectural changes made to extensions handling.  Those were 
introduced with Firefox 2.55 (where 2.55 and 2.56 allowed for both old 
and new), and since Firefox 57, only the newer structure is available in 
Firefox.


The specific changes that happened were that Mozilla has shifted from 
using the XUL API to WebExtensions, as used by Google Chrome.  I haven't 
actually tried it, but my understanding is that both Chrome and Firefox 
can now run the same extensions.  Thunderbird also supported both APIs 
up until 78.0, but now supports only the newer WebExtensions.


With this development, Mozilla has removed all the older XUL extensions 
from addons.mozilla.org.  With the transition of Seamonkey (and 
Thunderbird) away from Mozilla's support infrastructure, you can find 
some extensions that work in Seamonkey at 
https://addons.thunderbird.net/en-US/seamonkey/ .


If you take a look at the Release Notes at 
https://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.53.6/ and go to 
the Extensions section, there are notes about some of the most popular 
extensions, particularly Enigmail, uBlock Origin, NoScript Classic, and 
Session Manager, which include links to the most recent versions that 
are working in Seamonkey.


As noted in a separate response, you can get access to a much wider 
selection of XUL extensions by installing the Classic Addons Archive.




Why is Seamonkey blocking the ad blocking and he tracking blocking?


Make sure you're running extensions that are still compatible with 
Seamonkey.  The Release Notes explicitly note that AdBlock Plus does not 
work well with Seamonkey, and recommend use of uBlock Plus, instead.



I will note that I do follow the notes from the Developers' regular 
meetings, and that adding support for WebExtensions is intended, but 
that it's a big enough undertaking for the limited number of 
contributors, that that's not going to happen any time soon.



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Re: Seamonkey 2.53.6 - why does it block ad blocking and tracking blocking

[Bret Busby]

On 26/1/21 10:08 pm, Dirk Fieldhouse wrote:

On 25/01/2021 18:57, Bret Busby wrote:

I am running

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/60.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.6

Build identifier: 20210118013008

on UbuntuMATE Linux 20.10.

Seamonkey does not allow ad blocking plugins like Adblock Plus and 
Adblock Ultimate, etc, that are allowed by Firefox, and, a plugin name 
"Bluehell Firewall" that apparently does ad blocking and tracking 
blocking, is "not compatible with your version of Seamonkey.


Bluhell Firewall 2.6.4 (FWIW an extension, not a plugin) works fine, 
certainly on 2.53.5.1 and earlier, but see below.


A strip had been appearing across the top of the window, for a 
particular web site, and, it had displayed
"Parts of the page that track your online activity were blocked Blocking>"

...
The strip across the top of the window, no longer appears for that web 
site, and, in going into the web browser preferences, I can not find a 
way to restore the ad  blocking and tracking blocking, for that web site.


Why is Seamonkey blocking the ad blocking and he tracking blocking?


Keep Blocking uses the settings from Preferences>Privacy & Security. 
Unblock grants permissions that you can revoke or otherwise modify 
through Tools>Data Manager, select site, Permissions tab. That may be 
what you're looking for. SM doesn't have ad-blocking built in.





Thank you for that.

In using that process, and, changing the settings for the three 
variables, to default (global for Seamonkey), the settings are restored, 
and, the tracking warning strip is again displayed.


Regarding the ad blocking, without the tracking blocking being 
operative, ads would be displayed on the web page; with the tracking 
blocking being again operative, the ads are again stopped from being 
displayed.


It may be that the displaying of the ads, is dependent on the tracking; 
that, for that web site, at least (if not others, where I also see the 
tracking blocking warning strip displayed), the ads rely on context, 
without which, they are not displayed?


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Re: Seamonkey 2.53.6 - why does it block ad blocking and tracking blocking

[Dirk Fieldhouse]

On 25/01/2021 18:57, Bret Busby wrote:

I am running

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/60.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.6

Build identifier: 20210118013008

on UbuntuMATE Linux 20.10.

Seamonkey does not allow ad blocking plugins like Adblock Plus and 
Adblock Ultimate, etc, that are allowed by Firefox, and, a plugin name 
"Bluehell Firewall" that apparently does ad blocking and tracking 
blocking, is "not compatible with your version of Seamonkey.


Bluhell Firewall 2.6.4 (FWIW an extension, not a plugin) works fine, 
certainly on 2.53.5.1 and earlier, but see below.


A strip had been appearing across the top of the window, for a 
particular web site, and, it had displayed
"Parts of the page that track your online activity were blocked Blocking>"

...
The strip across the top of the window, no longer appears for that web 
site, and, in going into the web browser preferences, I can not find a 
way to restore the ad  blocking and tracking blocking, for that web site.


Why is Seamonkey blocking the ad blocking and he tracking blocking?


Keep Blocking uses the settings from Preferences>Privacy & Security. 
Unblock grants permissions that you can revoke or otherwise modify 
through Tools>Data Manager, select site, Permissions tab. That may be 
what you're looking for. SM doesn't have ad-blocking built in.


Why does Seamonkey not allow the plugins that  have mentioned, to work 
with this version of Seamonkey?

>

You may be trying to install WebExtensions versions of extensions where 
SM (currently) supports the classic extensions API (FF 52ESR and 
earlier). Until SM supports WebExtensions, install the Classic Add-ons 
Archive extension  and use the 
versions from the archive.


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Re: Preference Variable print.printer_[xxx].print_paper_size_unit Meaning?

[Dirk Fieldhouse]

On 25/01/2021 23:31, David E. Ross wrote:

What is the meaning of the preferences variables
print.printer_[xxx].print_paper_size_unit
where [xxx] is the name of a printer?
...


Apparently 0 means Imperial units 



There are no print.printer_* entries in about:config from my SM Linux 
x86 profile that has been upgraded from 2.4x.


My guess is that such entries are added to save a non-default setting 
from the print driver settings.


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Re: Help! All my passwords gone after update frum 2.53.3 to 2.53.6.1

[Rainer Bielefeld]

Dr.J.Elz-Fianda schrieb:

I upgraded from 2.53.3 to 2.53.5.1 – all my passwords are lost.



Hi Jochen,

I cna't remember to have heard about such a problem for updates within 
2.53. series.


Do you know whether also other preferences from your profile have gone lost?

DU

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user identification of eldiario.es still doesn't work with 2.53.6

[AndrésH]

There is a problem with the identification process of the web of 
eldiario.es.


I can apparently login with my user, but the interface of comments 
doesn't work.


Any idea to send to the developers  of the website to correct the 
problem they introduced with the latest redesign of the web ?



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Re: login page of bancosantander doesn't work

[AndrésH]

AndrésH escribió:
The login page of Santander banking online ( 
https://particulares.bancosantander.es/login/) doesn't work.


Any idea ? ( Version 2.53.5.1 )

Correction : works with version 2.53.6


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login page of bancosantander doesn't work

[AndrésH]

The login page of Santander banking online ( 
https://particulares.bancosantander.es/login/) doesn't work.


Any idea ? ( Version 2.53.5.1 )
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