Re: Google.com difference with SeaMonkey compared to Firefox

2021-03-21 Thread Dirk Fieldhouse

On 21/03/2021 21:35, no...@nonospam.org wrote:

I'm attaching 4 screen grabs, all from SeaMonkey v2.53.5.1.

They show the basic Google screen both with the Real UA and the Firefox 
86.0 UA, and also a Google search result with both the Real UA and the 
Firefox 86.0 UA.


In both cases I prefer the SM presentation (from the pictures shown). As 
the UA changes the display this is a deliberate choice by G, and if 
anyone wants to have a FF presentation that's how to get it.


At one time the SM presentation had defects such as the length of the 
search field not matching its container, or being vertically offset. 
This doesn't seem to happen now (at least, without JS enabled).


The only real improvement needed would be to delete or compress the 
"People also ask" box.


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Re: I can't install any version of Seamonkey after 2.49.4

2021-03-21 Thread Ray Davison

Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:

Not so simple.
Dropping back from 2.49.5 to 2.49.4 is no problem, that's one reason I 
asked what level he was using.
Dropping back from 2.53.whatever (or similar) *is* a problem because 
2.53.x converts part of the config to a new format when you first run it 
and that breaks things if you fall back.  You need to save the profile 
before first running the higher level and restore it when falling back.


You work too hard.  You can have as many versions of SM and as many 
profiles as you wish.  You can have "old' versions of SM and "new" 
versions.  When you run an old version, chose the old profile.  When you 
run a new version, chose the new profile.


And if you sometime decide you like the new better than the old, then 
delete the old.


Ray

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WINDOWS 10 UPGRADE WITH SEAMONKEY V 2.33.1

2021-03-21 Thread BER

Hello,
Please see my email below. I have decided to upgrade to Windows 10. Will 
Version 2.33.1 work with Windows 10 and should I be able to upgrade to 
the latest version of Seamonkey?

Thank you
Brenda

On 2/16/2020 2:38 PM, BER wrote:

Hello Everyone,

I have been using Seamonkey for a very long, long time over 15 years. 
I want to install the newest version but I am concerned I will screw 
it up and lose my emails. I am still on version 2.33.1 because my 
automatic updates fail and I don't know why.


Is there a step by step manual or written process I can find or buy 
before I attempt this upgrade? I am still on Windows 7, 64 bit.


Any help would be greatly appreciated and I am willing to pay for 
someone's time to help me with this upgrade. Its time I finally tackle 
this issue. I can't send to newsgroups either and I do not know why.

Thank you,
Brenda



On 2/16/2020 2:00 PM, David E. Ross wrote:

On 2/16/2020 11:39 AM, Cheryl wrote:

Thanks so much, David.  Can I just keep using the x86 version then? I
really don't want to uninstall unless I h ave to although I did save my
profile, just in case.



David E. Ross wrote:

On 2/16/2020 4:08 AM, Cheryl wrote:

Seamonkey stops responding right at the end and it never updates. The
reason I was updating was because I get the constant Not 
Responding and

have to close seamonkey via Task Mgr.
Any help or ideas appreciated.

Thanks,
Cheryl

We have been advised that, if you are trying to install the x64 
version
of 2.49.5, you must first remove the x32 version (only version) of 
2.49.4.



Now that you have tried installing 2.49.5 x64, you must first uninstall
it before installing 2.49.5 x32.

Since something has to be uninstalled, I would uninstall BOTH 2.49.4 x32
and 2.49.5 x64.  Then reinstall 2.49.5 x64, which will use you old
profile.  If things are strange, however, restore your profile from the
saved version.  I installed 2.49.5 x64 and did not have to do anything
with my profile from 2.49.4 x32.



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Re: Google.com difference with SeaMonkey compared to Firefox

2021-03-21 Thread WaltS48

On 3/21/21 11:26 AM, Ant wrote:

On 3/21/2021 7:50 AM, WaltS48 wrote:

On 3/21/21 9:27 AM, no...@nonospam.org wrote:
For the last couple of months, the appearance of the main Google 
website on SeaMonkey has been different from what it has been for 
years. Search results are presented in individual boxes, and the 
website just looks strange.


I don't see much difference using SeaMonkey 2.53.6 and Firefox 
86.0.1, but I don't know what your search term is.


Do you have the same problem using Help > Restart with Add-ons Disabled?

I never use a search site preferring to search from the address bar.


I definitely see differences between my SeaMonkey v2.53.6 (User agent: 
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/60.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.6) and Firefox v86.0.1 in my decade old, 
updated 64-bit W7 HPE SP1 PC.


Sorry, I should have said I don't see search results presented in 
individual boxes in either browser.


There are differences, but not much.

Let me know if you need pics. You can also provide some for viewing.

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Re: Google.com difference with SeaMonkey compared to Firefox

2021-03-21 Thread Ant

On 3/21/2021 7:50 AM, WaltS48 wrote:

On 3/21/21 9:27 AM, no...@nonospam.org wrote:
For the last couple of months, the appearance of the main Google 
website on SeaMonkey has been different from what it has been for 
years. Search results are presented in individual boxes, and the 
website just looks strange.


I don't see much difference using SeaMonkey 2.53.6 and Firefox 86.0.1, 
but I don't know what your search term is.


Do you have the same problem using Help > Restart with Add-ons Disabled?

I never use a search site preferring to search from the address bar.


I definitely see differences between my SeaMonkey v2.53.6 (User agent: 
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/60.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.6) and Firefox v86.0.1 in my decade old, 
updated 64-bit W7 HPE SP1 PC.

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Re: Google.com difference with SeaMonkey compared to Firefox

2021-03-21 Thread WaltS48

On 3/21/21 9:27 AM, no...@nonospam.org wrote:
For the last couple of months, the appearance of the main Google 
website on SeaMonkey has been different from what it has been for 
years. Search results are presented in individual boxes, and the 
website just looks strange.


I don't see much difference using SeaMonkey 2.53.6 and Firefox 86.0.1, 
but I don't know what your search term is.


Do you have the same problem using Help > Restart with Add-ons Disabled?

I never use a search site preferring to search from the address bar.
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Google.com difference with SeaMonkey compared to Firefox

2021-03-21 Thread notme
For the last couple of months, the appearance of the main Google website 
on SeaMonkey has been different from what it has been for years. Search 
results are presented in individual boxes, and the website just looks 
strange.


I've done some troubleshooting and here is what I've observed:

1. When entering google.com on Firefox v86.0.1, the site appears normal.

2. When entering google.com on SeaMonkey v2.53.5.1, the site has the 
strange appearance described above. The site address showing in the 
title box is https://www.google.com/#spf=1616331365185 even though only 
https://www.google.com was entered.


3. If I change the SeaMonkey user agent to Firefox 86.0(Using the 
PrefBar extension) and reload the page, the appearance returns to 
normal, even though #spf=1616331987062 is still at the end of the site 
address.


4. Removing #spf=1616331987062 and reloading the page make the site work 
correctly.


5. Changing the user agent back to Real UA and reloading the page again 
causes the strange appearance and the site address goes back to 
https://www.google.com/#spf=1616332459516


This is another example of a website which works differently with 
SeaMonkey than it does with Firefox. Changing the user agent string is a 
workaround, but why should this be required?


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