Re: Linux... Seamonkey and Sound...

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sean wrote:

for months now I've been struggling to keep sound working on my HP
Pavilion G6 running peppermintOS linux. One day sound works in Seamonkey
but not in the Chromium... the next day some links work in Chromium but
not in Seamonkey... usually, depending upon the source of the sound or
video clip it will work in one of these two browsers

today its this link which works in neither browser

http://www.kvoa.com/clip/11409366/demolished-grant-rd-homes-get-a-second-chance


have a feeling its just the KVOA website only coding for windows

would someone mind taking a gander at it before i set off on another
sound triage mission...

fwiw, both my flash and pepperflash plugin/addons are up to day

No problem for me using puppy linux

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Re: in porting mail

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WaltS48 wrote:

On 04/18/2015 06:57 AM, Smiles wrote:

one of my clients decided to try someone else who changed email program
to "incredible mail"

does any one know how to move mail over to SeaMonkey

thanks everyone



IncrediMail? I think you have to export it first.

[How do I export using the Data and Settings Transfer Wizard? :
Incredimail Support
Center](http://support.incredimail.com/entries/20840667-How-do-I-export-using-the-Data-and-Settings-Transfer-Wizard-)




Unfortunately, this doesn't work.
The export in incredimail is to export for import to incredimail on 
another PC or when installing a new PC with incredimail.


I had this situation for my girl friend who uses incredimail and I was 
not successful.
The only method what work is export/save each message separately and 
importing again in the other mail client.

The mail client I wanted to use was Pegasus Mail.

I raised the question in the incrediail forum and got the answer that 
incredimail didn't have an export function for importing to another mail 
client. I was not happy.


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Re: Seamonkey 2.33.1 Lighting 3.8b2 Bug workaround

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Rob Steinmetz wrote:

If your calendar does not show events or appointments in Lightning try
this.

Basically this bug is the result of the visual C++ redistributable
missing from your installation. Since some people had it and some didn't
the results were not consistent.


Visual C++ Redistributable Packages for Visual Studio 2013:
http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=40784


Visual C++ Redistributable for Visual Studio 2012 Update 4:
http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=30679

Visual C++ 2010 Redistributable Package (x86):
http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=

You may not need all of them and apparently the 2010 version isn't the
latest.

Philipp Kewisch first report the fix on bugzilla.
Thanks to everyone who helped find the problem.

Thank you.
Is there something similar for Linux?
Alltho in lightning I have the appointments and events, but thet aren't 
brought over to the google calendar when syncing.


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Re: SeaMonkey Icon/Logo Idea

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EE wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

Ronnie wrote on 17/03/2015 10:15:

And foxes aren't on fire either. It's a fun play on the word, it's not
meant to be l literal translation like the current logo is, good grief.



The difference between a Fox and a Fox on a Fire is less than the
difference between a Seamonkey and a Monkey.


A firefox is actually a red panda, although the logo for Firefox has a
red fox.  A seamonkey is a brine shrimp.


And before release 1.0 it was Mozilla Firebird.
http://website-archive.mozilla.org/www.mozilla.org/firefox_releasenotes/en-US/firefox/releases/0.7.1.html

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Re: Toolbar disappeared after my wife used Seamonkey !

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Daniel wrote:

On 07/04/15 05:43, Béèm wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 04/05/2015 09:41 PM, DoctorBill wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:


Could one of you monitors please erase all of my
replies to JAS !?
PLEASE!


AFAIK you can delete your own messages.



PLEASE - tell me how to delete any or all of my messages !

DoctorBill



You can't delete messages from this server.


I could cancel some of my messages here already, but I must say nobody
had replied to them yet at that moment.


You must be very lucky, Beem, because, as far as I know/knew, what Walt
typed *was* the situation.

Have you tried setting your SM View->Threads to All to see if your
messages were actually removed from this server??


Yes, I did look with SM view|threads|all.
I didn't see my message anymore.
Example 
news://news.mozilla.org:119/a5edndcjlovfqb7inz2dnuu7-i-dn...@mozilla.org
Here Walt replied to my 'canceled' message, probably at the same moment 
I was cancelling.
But as llias said, maybe it's only my view where the messages isn't 
seen. I didn't try to see with another profile or other news reader tho.


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Re: Video doesn't play. solved

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Yamo' wrote:

Hi,

Le 07/04/2015 15:41, Béèm a écrit :

Some newsgroups permit to edit the initial message and add [SOLVED] to
the subject. I thought the function 'edit as new' had to be used for
this. But instead of editing my original post



You have to use a supersedes header but mozilla don't know it:
<https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11045>.

It's possible to made it by hand.

<http://www.hilpers.fr/1347088-annulation-de-message>


Thank you.
No activity after Stéphane Grégoire (yamo) 2013-11-30 02:06:53 PST


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Re: Video doesn't play. solved

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Jonathan N Little wrote:

Béèm wrote:




For some reason SeaMonkey saw the 451 as 378. I still ignore why, but
after I redid the install it seems to work now. I explained this in the
original thread.



The reason I reckon is that your had a duplicate version at 378
elsewhere that SeaMonkey was referencing. That is why I said it was best
to get the plugin with your package manager and let it update a *single*
instance of the plugin.

In my puppy linux, and maybe all other linuxes, there is that plugin 
directory in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins where the plugins are stored.

In my setup I symlink to the place where the plugins are really.
As this plugins directory is common for SeaMonkey as well as for 
Firefox, I didn't understand how SeaMonkey could find another one.
But SM apparently did and I made inaccessible all other instances of the 
plugin, which apparently was effective.


So all did end well finally.
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Re: Video doesn't play. solved

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Jonathan N Little wrote:

Béèm wrote:

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:36.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/36.0 SeaMonkey/2.33.1

One of the newspapers I follow suddenly stopped playing video's.
Probably by changing the way as the use something like kalkura video
playing.
This is a link:
http://cdnapi.kaltura.com/html5/html5lib/v2.27.1/modules/EmbedPlayer/binPlayers/kaltura-player/kdp3.swf



My Seamonkey being in linux the latest flashplayer isn't supported.
 File: libflashplayer.so
 Path: /initrd/mnt/dev_save/flashplayer/libflashplayer.so
 Version: 11.2.202.378

  ^^^

 State: Enabled (STATE_VULNERABLE_UPDATE_AVAILABLE)
 Shockwave Flash 11.2 r202

Could that be the problem?




Shockwave Flash

 File: libflashplayer.so
 Path: /usr/lib/flashplugin-installer/libflashplayer.so
 Version: 11.2.202.451
   ^^^
 State: Enabled
 Shockwave Flash 11.2 r202

Why have you not patched your flash?

jonathan@gypsy:~$ apt-cache policy flashplugin-installer
flashplugin-installer:
   Installed: 11.2.202.451ubuntu0.14.04.1
   Candidate: 11.2.202.451ubuntu0.14.04.1
   Version table:
  *** 11.2.202.451ubuntu0.14.04.1 0
 500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/
trusty-updates/multiverse i386 Packages
 500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/
trusty-security/multiverse i386 Packages
 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
  11.2.202.350ubuntu1 0
 500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty/multiverse i386
Packages

For some reason SeaMonkey saw the 451 as 378. I still ignore why, but 
after I redid the install it seems to work now. I explained this in the 
original thread.


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Re: Video doesn't play. solved

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Jonathan N Little wrote:

Béèm wrote:

Béèm wrote:







I went to the adobe site and downloaded from there the 451.


Why did you do that?




So for the moment I have the conclusion:
SeaMonkey sees the 451 as 378 still
The video doesn't play in SeaMonkey
The video does play in Firefox.

But for the moment I have no idea why this is so.


In order to be sure, I renamed every instance of libflashplayer.so on
the HDD and only kept the one which serves for both SeaMonkey and
Firefox.
Also the mechanism is still the same as before, this time SeaMonkey sees
the player as 451 and not 378 and the video is playing now.



If you has just used update manager to update the flashplugin-installer
it would have:

(a) Installed the latest version for you
(b) Installed it in the proper location
(c) Remove the previous version
(d) Prevented the multiple instances and versions of libraries that put
you in that "DLL Hell" to borrow the Windows term.

My Linux, puppy linux is a bit special and I couldn't use the 
flashplugin-installer.

Up to now I had no problems changing the version the way I did, up to now.


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Re: Video doesn't play. solved

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G. Ross wrote:

Béèm wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 04/07/2015 09:23 AM, Béèm wrote:

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:36.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/36.0 SeaMonkey/2.33.1

One of the newspapers I follow suddenly stopped playing video's.
Probably by changing the way as the use something like kalkura video
playing.
This is a link:
http://cdnapi.kaltura.com/html5/html5lib/v2.27.1/modules/EmbedPlayer/binPlayers/kaltura-player/kdp3.swf




My Seamonkey being in linux the latest flashplayer isn't supported.
 File: libflashplayer.so
 Path: /initrd/mnt/dev_save/flashplayer/libflashplayer.so
 Version: 11.2.202.378
 State: Enabled (STATE_VULNERABLE_UPDATE_AVAILABLE)
 Shockwave Flash 11.2 r202

Could that be the problem?



So the Subject says solved. "Re: Video doesn't play.solved"

What solved it?

The latest flash player Version 11.2.202.451 is supported in all Mozilla
products n Linux.


Some newsgroups permit to edit the initial message and add [SOLVED] to
the subject. I thought the function 'edit as new' had to be used for
this. But instead of editing my original post
news://news.mozilla.org:119/xcgdnafhq7s-uyhinz2dnuu7-eudn...@mozilla.org
a new one was created.

So I updated the thread of the initial post to put SOLVED on the subject
line.

I know now even the owner of an original post can't change anything to
his own post, as some newsgroups permit to do so.


You can Reply to your original post and change the title by adding
:SOLVED.  That way it all stays together.

That's what I did finally, but then the first post doesn't reflect the 
[SOLVED], but so be it here.


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Re: Video doesn't play. solved

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WaltS48 wrote:

On 04/07/2015 09:23 AM, Béèm wrote:

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:36.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/36.0 SeaMonkey/2.33.1

One of the newspapers I follow suddenly stopped playing video's.
Probably by changing the way as the use something like kalkura video
playing.
This is a link:
http://cdnapi.kaltura.com/html5/html5lib/v2.27.1/modules/EmbedPlayer/binPlayers/kaltura-player/kdp3.swf



My Seamonkey being in linux the latest flashplayer isn't supported.
 File: libflashplayer.so
 Path: /initrd/mnt/dev_save/flashplayer/libflashplayer.so
 Version: 11.2.202.378
 State: Enabled (STATE_VULNERABLE_UPDATE_AVAILABLE)
 Shockwave Flash 11.2 r202

Could that be the problem?



So the Subject says solved. "Re: Video doesn't play.solved"

What solved it?

The latest flash player Version 11.2.202.451 is supported in all Mozilla
products n Linux.

Some newsgroups permit to edit the initial message and add [SOLVED] to 
the subject. I thought the function 'edit as new' had to be used for 
this. But instead of editing my original post 
news://news.mozilla.org:119/xcgdnafhq7s-uyhinz2dnuu7-eudn...@mozilla.org 
a new one was created.


So I updated the thread of the initial post to put SOLVED on the subject 
line.


I know now even the owner of an original post can't change anything to 
his own post, as some newsgroups permit to do so.


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Re: Video doesn't play. solved

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Béèm wrote:

Béèm wrote:

Béèm wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 04/01/2015 02:41 PM, Béèm wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 04/01/2015 01:02 PM, Béèm wrote:

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:36.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/36.0 SeaMonkey/2.33.1

One of the newspapers I follow suddenly stopped playing video's.
Probably by changing the way as the use something like kalkura video
playing.
This is a link:
http://cdnapi.kaltura.com/html5/html5lib/v2.27.1/modules/EmbedPlayer/binPlayers/kaltura-player/kdp3.swf








My Seamonkey being in linux the latest flashplayer isn't supported.
 File: libflashplayer.so
 Path: /initrd/mnt/dev_save/flashplayer/libflashplayer.so
 Version: 11.2.202.378
 State: Enabled (STATE_VULNERABLE_UPDATE_AVAILABLE)
 Shockwave Flash 11.2 r202

Could that be the problem?



Well it is block listed. Shockwave Flash 11.2.202.451 being the most
recent

[Blocked Add-ons :: Add-ons for
SeaMonkey](https://blocklist.addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/blocked/p796)







[Blocked Add-ons :: Add-ons for
SeaMonkey](https://blocklist.addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/blocked/p826)








Thank you, I know that.
But there is no higher version to switch too in Linux as far as I
know,
as Adobe doesn't work on development for linux anymore.



Update your block listed 11.2.202.378 to 11.2.202.451.

My system updates automatically whenever Kubuntu gets around to it.


Thank you. I didn't know there was a newer one.

With google I did find the 451 one, downloaded and used it.
about:plugins still reports the 378, but the new libflashpayer.so is
different in size. Will have to look into this to see why I have this.
# ls -li
total 34032
  85 -rwxrwxrwx 1 root root 17435300 mrt  4 01:34 libflashplayer.so (is
the new downloaded one)
102 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 17410532 dec 19  2012 libflashplayer.so-old
(is the old 378 one)
#


I went to the adobe site and downloaded from there the 451.
I still get on SeaMonkey the 378 reported.
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:36.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/36.0 SeaMonkey/2.33.1
Build identifier: 20150321194732
Shockwave Flash

 File: libflashplayer.so
 Path:
/initrd/mnt/dev_save/downloads/flashplayer-11.2.202.451-adobe/libflashplayer.so

 Version: 11.2.202.378 <===
 State: Enabled (STATE_VULNERABLE_UPDATE_AVAILABLE)
 Shockwave Flash 11.2 r202

But I have a firefox installation as well:
The 36.0.4 and here the same libflashplayer.so reports as 451.
Shockwave Flash

 File: libflashplayer.so
 Path:
/initrd/mnt/dev_save/downloads/flashplayer-11.2.202.451-adobe/libflashplayer.so

 Version: 11.2.202.451 <===
 State: Enabled
 Shockwave Flash 11.2 r202

Well this is very weird.

Then I tried the newspaper link in Firefox and the video is playing. h.
In SeaMonkey I disabled ghostery and adblock plus (as I haven't those in
Firefox.
Still the video doesn't play in SeaMonkey.

In Firefox I had an extra plugin, which I disabled:
OpenH264 Video Codec provided by Cisco Systems, Inc.

 File: 1.3
 Path: /root/.mozilla/firefox/4iofjbuq.default/gmp-gmpopenh264/1.3
 Version: 1.3
 State: Disabled
 Play back web video and use video chats.

The video still plays in Firefox.

So for the moment I have the conclusion:
SeaMonkey sees the 451 as 378 still
The video doesn't play in SeaMonkey
The video does play in Firefox.

But for the moment I have no idea why this is so.

In order to be sure, I renamed every instance of libflashplayer.so on 
the HDD and only kept the one which serves for both SeaMonkey and Firefox.
Also the mechanism is still the same as before, this time SeaMonkey sees 
the player as 451 and not 378 and the video is playing now.


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Video doesn't play. [SOLVED]

[Béèm]

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:36.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/36.0 SeaMonkey/2.33.1


One of the newspapers I follow suddenly stopped playing video's.
Probably by changing the way as the use something like kalkura video 
playing.

This is a link:
http://cdnapi.kaltura.com/html5/html5lib/v2.27.1/modules/EmbedPlayer/binPlayers/kaltura-player/kdp3.swf

My Seamonkey being in linux the latest flashplayer isn't supported.
File: libflashplayer.so
Path: /initrd/mnt/dev_save/flashplayer/libflashplayer.so
Version: 11.2.202.378
State: Enabled (STATE_VULNERABLE_UPDATE_AVAILABLE)
Shockwave Flash 11.2 r202

Could that be the problem??
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Video doesn't play. solved

[Béèm]

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:36.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/36.0 SeaMonkey/2.33.1


One of the newspapers I follow suddenly stopped playing video's.
Probably by changing the way as the use something like kalkura video 
playing.

This is a link:
http://cdnapi.kaltura.com/html5/html5lib/v2.27.1/modules/EmbedPlayer/binPlayers/kaltura-player/kdp3.swf

My Seamonkey being in linux the latest flashplayer isn't supported.
File: libflashplayer.so
Path: /initrd/mnt/dev_save/flashplayer/libflashplayer.so
Version: 11.2.202.378
State: Enabled (STATE_VULNERABLE_UPDATE_AVAILABLE)
Shockwave Flash 11.2 r202

Could that be the problem?
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Re: Toolbar disappeared after my wife used Seamonkey !

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WaltS48 wrote:

On 04/05/2015 09:41 PM, DoctorBill wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:


Could one of you monitors please erase all of my
replies to JAS !?
PLEASE!


AFAIK you can delete your own messages.



PLEASE - tell me how to delete any or all of my messages !

DoctorBill



You can't delete messages from this server.

I could cancel some of my messages here already, but I must say nobody 
had replied to them yet at that moment.


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Re: Video doesn't play.

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Béèm wrote:

Béèm wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 04/01/2015 02:41 PM, Béèm wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 04/01/2015 01:02 PM, Béèm wrote:

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:36.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/36.0 SeaMonkey/2.33.1

One of the newspapers I follow suddenly stopped playing video's.
Probably by changing the way as the use something like kalkura video
playing.
This is a link:
http://cdnapi.kaltura.com/html5/html5lib/v2.27.1/modules/EmbedPlayer/binPlayers/kaltura-player/kdp3.swf







My Seamonkey being in linux the latest flashplayer isn't supported.
 File: libflashplayer.so
 Path: /initrd/mnt/dev_save/flashplayer/libflashplayer.so
 Version: 11.2.202.378
 State: Enabled (STATE_VULNERABLE_UPDATE_AVAILABLE)
 Shockwave Flash 11.2 r202

Could that be the problem?



Well it is block listed. Shockwave Flash 11.2.202.451 being the most
recent

[Blocked Add-ons :: Add-ons for
SeaMonkey](https://blocklist.addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/blocked/p796)






[Blocked Add-ons :: Add-ons for
SeaMonkey](https://blocklist.addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/blocked/p826)







Thank you, I know that.
But there is no higher version to switch too in Linux as far as I know,
as Adobe doesn't work on development for linux anymore.



Update your block listed 11.2.202.378 to 11.2.202.451.

My system updates automatically whenever Kubuntu gets around to it.


Thank you. I didn't know there was a newer one.

With google I did find the 451 one, downloaded and used it.
about:plugins still reports the 378, but the new libflashpayer.so is
different in size. Will have to look into this to see why I have this.
# ls -li
total 34032
  85 -rwxrwxrwx 1 root root 17435300 mrt  4 01:34 libflashplayer.so (is
the new downloaded one)
102 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 17410532 dec 19  2012 libflashplayer.so-old
(is the old 378 one)
#


I went to the adobe site and downloaded from there the 451.
I still get on SeaMonkey the 378 reported.
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:36.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/36.0 SeaMonkey/2.33.1

Build identifier: 20150321194732
Shockwave Flash

File: libflashplayer.so
Path: 
/initrd/mnt/dev_save/downloads/flashplayer-11.2.202.451-adobe/libflashplayer.so

Version: 11.2.202.378 <===
State: Enabled (STATE_VULNERABLE_UPDATE_AVAILABLE)
Shockwave Flash 11.2 r202

But I have a firefox installation as well:
The 36.0.4 and here the same libflashplayer.so reports as 451.
Shockwave Flash

File: libflashplayer.so
Path: 
/initrd/mnt/dev_save/downloads/flashplayer-11.2.202.451-adobe/libflashplayer.so

Version: 11.2.202.451 <===
State: Enabled
Shockwave Flash 11.2 r202

Well this is very weird.

Then I tried the newspaper link in Firefox and the video is playing. h.
In SeaMonkey I disabled ghostery and adblock plus (as I haven't those in 
Firefox.

Still the video doesn't play in SeaMonkey.

In Firefox I had an extra plugin, which I disabled:
OpenH264 Video Codec provided by Cisco Systems, Inc.

File: 1.3
Path: /root/.mozilla/firefox/4iofjbuq.default/gmp-gmpopenh264/1.3
Version: 1.3
State: Disabled
Play back web video and use video chats.

The video still plays in Firefox.

So for the moment I have the conclusion:
SeaMonkey sees the 451 as 378 still
The video doesn't play in SeaMonkey
The video does play in Firefox.

But for the moment I have no idea why this is so.

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Re: Video doesn't play.

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Béèm wrote:

Daniel wrote:

On 03/04/15 05:15, Béèm wrote:

Daniel wrote:

On 02/04/15 07:36, Béèm wrote:

Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP] wrote:

On Wed, 01 Apr 2015 19:02:04 +0200, Béèm  wrote:


User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:36.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/36.0 SeaMonkey/2.33.1

One of the newspapers I follow suddenly stopped playing video's.
Probably by changing the way as the use something like kalkura video
playing.
This is a link:
http://cdnapi.kaltura.com/html5/html5lib/v2.27.1/modules/EmbedPlayer/binPlayers/kaltura-player/kdp3.swf






My Seamonkey being in linux the latest flashplayer isn't supported.
 File: libflashplayer.so
 Path: /initrd/mnt/dev_save/flashplayer/libflashplayer.so
 Version: 11.2.202.378
 State: Enabled (STATE_VULNERABLE_UPDATE_AVAILABLE)
 Shockwave Flash 11.2 r202

Could that be the problem?


This link doesn't even work on Windows with SM 2.33.1 (or IE11 for
that matter). I don't think you can just link to a SWF file and it
will fire up.

- Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP]


As the newspaper is in Dutch I thought it was enough to only extract
the
swf link. Now I don't find the original one, but I found another from
the same newspaper which has the problem of not playing in my setup.
http://www.nieuwsblad.be/cnt/dmf20150330_01605662?_section=7005050&utm_source=nieuwsblad&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=pm&M_BT=5349660391&adh_i=8d1d3b563347a9520ffe3812ebf8144c






That link gets me a page which looks like it's a news site (in Dutch or
something) with a blank spot where I think a photo should go and the
bottom line of the screen says "Transferring data from
ticker.zimmo.be..." and my network connector thingee shows occasional
bursts of activity up to about 8KB every 20secs or so!!


Yes Daniel, it's a Belgian Newspaper in Dutch language where the white
spot is where the video should play. So you should have had a picture
with the classical arrow to start the video.


No arrow, just a blank screen!! Elsewhere in this thread, Paul posted
another link to that video. When I click that link, my Ghostery comes up
telling me it's blocked that site ...

Ghostery prevented a redirect from
cdnapi.kaltura.com to cdnsecakmi.kaltura.com,
which is part of Kaltura.

but, when I click to allow the re-direct, I get the video, but no sound,
which happens often. :-(


I told ghostery not to block kaltura for the moment, but my initial
issue is still there. Video doesn't play.
I see you have a 64-bit environment, I have a 32-bit one.

My screenshot is here http://oi58.tinypic.com/11t4axy.jpg
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Re: Video doesn't play.

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Daniel wrote:

On 03/04/15 05:15, Béèm wrote:

Daniel wrote:

On 02/04/15 07:36, Béèm wrote:

Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP] wrote:

On Wed, 01 Apr 2015 19:02:04 +0200, Béèm  wrote:


User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:36.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/36.0 SeaMonkey/2.33.1

One of the newspapers I follow suddenly stopped playing video's.
Probably by changing the way as the use something like kalkura video
playing.
This is a link:
http://cdnapi.kaltura.com/html5/html5lib/v2.27.1/modules/EmbedPlayer/binPlayers/kaltura-player/kdp3.swf





My Seamonkey being in linux the latest flashplayer isn't supported.
 File: libflashplayer.so
 Path: /initrd/mnt/dev_save/flashplayer/libflashplayer.so
 Version: 11.2.202.378
 State: Enabled (STATE_VULNERABLE_UPDATE_AVAILABLE)
 Shockwave Flash 11.2 r202

Could that be the problem?


This link doesn't even work on Windows with SM 2.33.1 (or IE11 for
that matter). I don't think you can just link to a SWF file and it
will fire up.

- Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP]


As the newspaper is in Dutch I thought it was enough to only extract
the
swf link. Now I don't find the original one, but I found another from
the same newspaper which has the problem of not playing in my setup.
http://www.nieuwsblad.be/cnt/dmf20150330_01605662?_section=7005050&utm_source=nieuwsblad&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=pm&M_BT=5349660391&adh_i=8d1d3b563347a9520ffe3812ebf8144c





That link gets me a page which looks like it's a news site (in Dutch or
something) with a blank spot where I think a photo should go and the
bottom line of the screen says "Transferring data from
ticker.zimmo.be..." and my network connector thingee shows occasional
bursts of activity up to about 8KB every 20secs or so!!


Yes Daniel, it's a Belgian Newspaper in Dutch language where the white
spot is where the video should play. So you should have had a picture
with the classical arrow to start the video.


No arrow, just a blank screen!! Elsewhere in this thread, Paul posted
another link to that video. When I click that link, my Ghostery comes up
telling me it's blocked that site ...

Ghostery prevented a redirect from
cdnapi.kaltura.com to cdnsecakmi.kaltura.com,
which is part of Kaltura.

but, when I click to allow the re-direct, I get the video, but no sound,
which happens often. :-(

I told ghostery not to block kaltura for the moment, but my initial 
issue is still there. Video doesn't play.

I see you have a 64-bit environment, I have a 32-bit one.
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Re: Video doesn't play.

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Béèm wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 04/01/2015 02:41 PM, Béèm wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 04/01/2015 01:02 PM, Béèm wrote:

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:36.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/36.0 SeaMonkey/2.33.1

One of the newspapers I follow suddenly stopped playing video's.
Probably by changing the way as the use something like kalkura video
playing.
This is a link:
http://cdnapi.kaltura.com/html5/html5lib/v2.27.1/modules/EmbedPlayer/binPlayers/kaltura-player/kdp3.swf






My Seamonkey being in linux the latest flashplayer isn't supported.
 File: libflashplayer.so
 Path: /initrd/mnt/dev_save/flashplayer/libflashplayer.so
 Version: 11.2.202.378
 State: Enabled (STATE_VULNERABLE_UPDATE_AVAILABLE)
 Shockwave Flash 11.2 r202

Could that be the problem?



Well it is block listed. Shockwave Flash 11.2.202.451 being the most
recent

[Blocked Add-ons :: Add-ons for
SeaMonkey](https://blocklist.addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/blocked/p796)





[Blocked Add-ons :: Add-ons for
SeaMonkey](https://blocklist.addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/blocked/p826)






Thank you, I know that.
But there is no higher version to switch too in Linux as far as I know,
as Adobe doesn't work on development for linux anymore.



Update your block listed 11.2.202.378 to 11.2.202.451.

My system updates automatically whenever Kubuntu gets around to it.


Thank you. I didn't know there was a newer one.

With google I did find the 451 one, downloaded and used it.
about:plugins still reports the 378, but the new libflashpayer.so is 
different in size. Will have to look into this to see why I have this.

# ls -li
total 34032
 85 -rwxrwxrwx 1 root root 17435300 mrt  4 01:34 libflashplayer.so (is 
the new downloaded one)
102 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 17410532 dec 19  2012 libflashplayer.so-old 
(is the old 378 one)

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Re: Video doesn't play.

[Béèm]

Daniel wrote:

On 02/04/15 07:36, Béèm wrote:

Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP] wrote:

On Wed, 01 Apr 2015 19:02:04 +0200, Béèm  wrote:


User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:36.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/36.0 SeaMonkey/2.33.1

One of the newspapers I follow suddenly stopped playing video's.
Probably by changing the way as the use something like kalkura video
playing.
This is a link:
http://cdnapi.kaltura.com/html5/html5lib/v2.27.1/modules/EmbedPlayer/binPlayers/kaltura-player/kdp3.swf



My Seamonkey being in linux the latest flashplayer isn't supported.
 File: libflashplayer.so
 Path: /initrd/mnt/dev_save/flashplayer/libflashplayer.so
 Version: 11.2.202.378
 State: Enabled (STATE_VULNERABLE_UPDATE_AVAILABLE)
 Shockwave Flash 11.2 r202

Could that be the problem?


This link doesn't even work on Windows with SM 2.33.1 (or IE11 for
that matter). I don't think you can just link to a SWF file and it
will fire up.

- Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP]


As the newspaper is in Dutch I thought it was enough to only extract the
swf link. Now I don't find the original one, but I found another from
the same newspaper which has the problem of not playing in my setup.
http://www.nieuwsblad.be/cnt/dmf20150330_01605662?_section=7005050&utm_source=nieuwsblad&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=pm&M_BT=5349660391&adh_i=8d1d3b563347a9520ffe3812ebf8144c



That link gets me a page which looks like it's a news site (in Dutch or
something) with a blank spot where I think a photo should go and the
bottom line of the screen says "Transferring data from
ticker.zimmo.be..." and my network connector thingee shows occasional
bursts of activity up to about 8KB every 20secs or so!!

Yes Daniel, it's a Belgian Newspaper in Dutch language where the white 
spot is where the video should play. So you should have had a picture 
with the classical arrow to start the video.

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Re: Video doesn't play.

[Béèm]

EE wrote:

Béèm wrote:

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:36.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/36.0 SeaMonkey/2.33.1

One of the newspapers I follow suddenly stopped playing video's.
Probably by changing the way as the use something like kalkura video
playing.
This is a link:
http://cdnapi.kaltura.com/html5/html5lib/v2.27.1/modules/EmbedPlayer/binPlayers/kaltura-player/kdp3.swf



My Seamonkey being in linux the latest flashplayer isn't supported.
 File: libflashplayer.so
 Path: /initrd/mnt/dev_save/flashplayer/libflashplayer.so
 Version: 11.2.202.378
 State: Enabled (STATE_VULNERABLE_UPDATE_AVAILABLE)
 Shockwave Flash 11.2 r202

Could that be the problem?


I doubt that.  I have the latest Flash plugin, but none of my browsers
will work with that page.


I extracted the offending swf link, which apparently can't be done.
In another thread I published the link from the newspaper.
In fact my question was to know if the lower level flashplayer version 
could be the problem on the original newspaper link.

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Re: Video doesn't play.

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Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Béèm wrote:

Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP] wrote:

On Wed, 01 Apr 2015 19:02:04 +0200, Béèm  wrote:


User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:36.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/36.0 SeaMonkey/2.33.1

One of the newspapers I follow suddenly stopped playing video's.
Probably by changing the way as the use something like kalkura video
playing.
This is a link:
http://cdnapi.kaltura.com/html5/html5lib/v2.27.1/modules/EmbedPlayer/binPlayers/kaltura-player/kdp3.swf



My Seamonkey being in linux the latest flashplayer isn't supported.
 File: libflashplayer.so
 Path: /initrd/mnt/dev_save/flashplayer/libflashplayer.so
 Version: 11.2.202.378
 State: Enabled (STATE_VULNERABLE_UPDATE_AVAILABLE)
 Shockwave Flash 11.2 r202

Could that be the problem?


This link doesn't even work on Windows with SM 2.33.1 (or IE11 for
that matter). I don't think you can just link to a SWF file and it
will fire up.

- Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP]


As the newspaper is in Dutch I thought it was enough to only extract the
swf link. Now I don't find the original one, but I found another from
the same newspaper which has the problem of not playing in my setup.
<http://www.nieuwsblad.be/cnt/dmf20150330_01605662?_section=7005050&utm_source=nieuwsblad&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=pm&M_BT=5349660391&adh_i=8d1d3b563347a9520ffe3812ebf8144c>



If you mean the English-language vid of a woman walking her dog and
discussing the contraptions used to help him walk, it plays fine here.

Here's a working URL for the video alone:
<http://cdnapi.kaltura.com/p/1467261/sp/146726100/playManifest/entryId/1_jh6wol9s/flavorId/1_2pftb41j/format/url/protocol/http/a.mp4?referrer=aHR0cDovL3d3dy5uaWV1d3NibGFkLmJl&clientTag=html5:v2.27.1&uiConfId=21813201>


Since I'm an AdBlock Plus user, I sometimes find videos will not play if
the site embeds an ad before the video, where the ad calls the actual
video unless the ad is blocked. In those cases, temporarily disabling
ABP on that site usually solves it.

For your example, I don't see an ad and the vid is not blocked, so
that's not the issue.


Your posted link of the video plays also in my setup.
And yes it is an English vid, but as it didn't play in my setup, I 
didn't know it was in English.


So then there is something else in my setup preventing it from playing 
directly from the link in the newspaper.

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Re: Video doesn't play.

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Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Here's an example of a Flash video that plays fine on its own:



Nice turkey, playing loud and clear. :-)
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Re: Video doesn't play.

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WaltS48 wrote:

On 04/01/2015 02:41 PM, Béèm wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 04/01/2015 01:02 PM, Béèm wrote:

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:36.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/36.0 SeaMonkey/2.33.1

One of the newspapers I follow suddenly stopped playing video's.
Probably by changing the way as the use something like kalkura video
playing.
This is a link:
http://cdnapi.kaltura.com/html5/html5lib/v2.27.1/modules/EmbedPlayer/binPlayers/kaltura-player/kdp3.swf





My Seamonkey being in linux the latest flashplayer isn't supported.
 File: libflashplayer.so
 Path: /initrd/mnt/dev_save/flashplayer/libflashplayer.so
 Version: 11.2.202.378
 State: Enabled (STATE_VULNERABLE_UPDATE_AVAILABLE)
 Shockwave Flash 11.2 r202

Could that be the problem?



Well it is block listed. Shockwave Flash 11.2.202.451 being the most
recent

[Blocked Add-ons :: Add-ons for
SeaMonkey](https://blocklist.addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/blocked/p796)




[Blocked Add-ons :: Add-ons for
SeaMonkey](https://blocklist.addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/blocked/p826)





Thank you, I know that.
But there is no higher version to switch too in Linux as far as I know,
as Adobe doesn't work on development for linux anymore.



Update your block listed 11.2.202.378 to 11.2.202.451.

My system updates automatically whenever Kubuntu gets around to it.


Thank you. I didn't know there was a newer one.
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Re: Video doesn't play.

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Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP] wrote:

On Wed, 01 Apr 2015 19:02:04 +0200, Béèm  wrote:


User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:36.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/36.0 SeaMonkey/2.33.1

One of the newspapers I follow suddenly stopped playing video's.
Probably by changing the way as the use something like kalkura video
playing.
This is a link:
http://cdnapi.kaltura.com/html5/html5lib/v2.27.1/modules/EmbedPlayer/binPlayers/kaltura-player/kdp3.swf

My Seamonkey being in linux the latest flashplayer isn't supported.
 File: libflashplayer.so
 Path: /initrd/mnt/dev_save/flashplayer/libflashplayer.so
 Version: 11.2.202.378
 State: Enabled (STATE_VULNERABLE_UPDATE_AVAILABLE)
 Shockwave Flash 11.2 r202

Could that be the problem?


This link doesn't even work on Windows with SM 2.33.1 (or IE11 for
that matter). I don't think you can just link to a SWF file and it
will fire up.

- Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP]

As the newspaper is in Dutch I thought it was enough to only extract the 
swf link. Now I don't find the original one, but I found another from 
the same newspaper which has the problem of not playing in my setup.

http://www.nieuwsblad.be/cnt/dmf20150330_01605662?_section=7005050&utm_source=nieuwsblad&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=pm&M_BT=5349660391&adh_i=8d1d3b563347a9520ffe3812ebf8144c
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Re: Video doesn't play.

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WaltS48 wrote:

On 04/01/2015 01:02 PM, Béèm wrote:

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:36.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/36.0 SeaMonkey/2.33.1

One of the newspapers I follow suddenly stopped playing video's.
Probably by changing the way as the use something like kalkura video
playing.
This is a link:
http://cdnapi.kaltura.com/html5/html5lib/v2.27.1/modules/EmbedPlayer/binPlayers/kaltura-player/kdp3.swf



My Seamonkey being in linux the latest flashplayer isn't supported.
 File: libflashplayer.so
 Path: /initrd/mnt/dev_save/flashplayer/libflashplayer.so
 Version: 11.2.202.378
 State: Enabled (STATE_VULNERABLE_UPDATE_AVAILABLE)
 Shockwave Flash 11.2 r202

Could that be the problem?



Well it is block listed. Shockwave Flash 11.2.202.451 being the most recent

[Blocked Add-ons :: Add-ons for
SeaMonkey](https://blocklist.addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/blocked/p796)


[Blocked Add-ons :: Add-ons for
SeaMonkey](https://blocklist.addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/blocked/p826)



Thank you, I know that.
But there is no higher version to switch too in Linux as far as I know, 
as Adobe doesn't work on development for linux anymore.

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Video doesn't play.

[Béèm]

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:36.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/36.0 SeaMonkey/2.33.1


One of the newspapers I follow suddenly stopped playing video's.
Probably by changing the way as the use something like kalkura video 
playing.

This is a link:
http://cdnapi.kaltura.com/html5/html5lib/v2.27.1/modules/EmbedPlayer/binPlayers/kaltura-player/kdp3.swf

My Seamonkey being in linux the latest flashplayer isn't supported.
File: libflashplayer.so
Path: /initrd/mnt/dev_save/flashplayer/libflashplayer.so
Version: 11.2.202.378
State: Enabled (STATE_VULNERABLE_UPDATE_AVAILABLE)
Shockwave Flash 11.2 r202

Could that be the problem?
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Re: path to newsgroup config.

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»Q« wrote:

In <news:q_-dnc6rr8gb3szjnz2dnuu7-xmdn...@mozilla.org>,
Béèm  wrote:


Béèm wrote:



The file browser in this linux permits to hide or display hidden
files. The file browser is ROX.



OK. Opened the file browser and put it in the mode to see the hidden
files. This time I could browse in the file open dialogue taking into
account the hidden directories/files.

Good tip to look at the file browser.


I'm glad that worked, but I'm surprised by it.  Usually Mozilla apps
use their own file browser instead of the system's, but yours must be
using ROX.  In about:config, what's the value of
the ui.allow_platform_file_picker pref?  (Usually, default is false,
which would make SM use its in-built picker.)

ROX probably has a keyboard combo to toggle showing hidden files, but I
don't know what it is.  KDE's file picker uses ctrl+h for that;  maybe
ROX does also.



Good thinking. I have
ui.allow_platform_file_picker;true
ROX uses indeed ctrl+h.
If I am in the file open dialogue in SeaMonkey, ctrl+h displays or hide 
the hidden files/directories.

So ROX is used as the value is true.

I did put the value to false and then I get the Mozilla's file browser 
and in this window there is a tick box to show or hide hidden 
files/directories.


So this clears up the issue.

Thank you »Q«
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Re: path to newsgroup config.

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Béèm wrote:

mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote:

Béèm wrote:

Daniel wrote:

On 28/10/14 09:00, Béèm wrote:

I wanted to add newsgroups from the already defined mozilla server.
As I saw the path was wrong I wanted to browse to the correct
directory.


Beem, which path was wrong?? What file are you looking for/at??


In my version of puppy linux, the path goes via root and a hidden
directory .mozilla. The file open dialogue didn't see this hidden
dialogue, so I was unable to go the the news directory in the mozilla
profile.

Why is this so and how can I correct the open file dialogue to see
also
hidden directories?



The path was /mnt/sda3/root/.mozilla/ and had to be
/mnt/home/root/.mozilla/.
When pushing browse in the file open dialogue I got all the files in
/mnt/home/root except the hidden files, so those with a dot in front.

So the question remains, why is this so? A bug?
But I found I could go in about:config and edit the path manually.
Not a solution for beginners or non-technical users.


On Windows those buttons open the operating system's file browser (i.e.
Explorer), so whether or not hidden files are seen depends on Explorer's
settings. Not sure if there's a similar arrangement on Linux.

Since you know the name of the hidden directory, it may be possible to
navigate to it by typing it's path in the filename field. i.e. enter
/mnt/home/root/.mozilla/ as the filename and press enter (or click open
or whatever the equivalent is), and it might then show the content of
that directory. Again, just a guess based on the Windows version.

Mark.


The file browser in this linux permits to hide or display hidden files.
The file browser is ROX.
I wasn't able to click on the field of the file name in the file open
window to change it.
I'll make another test and put the file browser in the mode to display
hidden files/directories to see if in SeaMonkey there is a change and
report back.
Normally for other linux applications, I don't have to do that. The
hidden files/directories are displayed in the file open dialogue window.

OK. Opened the file browser and put it in the mode to see the hidden files.
This time I could browse in the file open dialogue taking into account 
the hidden directories/files.


Good tip to look at the file browser.

So some linux applications apparently put the open file dialogue in the 
display hidden files/directories mode independent of the file browser 
mode for it and some, like SeaMonkey don't.


Good to know.

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Re: path to newsgroup config.

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mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote:

Béèm wrote:

Daniel wrote:

On 28/10/14 09:00, Béèm wrote:

I wanted to add newsgroups from the already defined mozilla server.
As I saw the path was wrong I wanted to browse to the correct
directory.


Beem, which path was wrong?? What file are you looking for/at??


In my version of puppy linux, the path goes via root and a hidden
directory .mozilla. The file open dialogue didn't see this hidden
dialogue, so I was unable to go the the news directory in the mozilla
profile.

Why is this so and how can I correct the open file dialogue to see also
hidden directories?



The path was /mnt/sda3/root/.mozilla/ and had to be
/mnt/home/root/.mozilla/.
When pushing browse in the file open dialogue I got all the files in
/mnt/home/root except the hidden files, so those with a dot in front.

So the question remains, why is this so? A bug?
But I found I could go in about:config and edit the path manually.
Not a solution for beginners or non-technical users.


On Windows those buttons open the operating system's file browser (i.e.
Explorer), so whether or not hidden files are seen depends on Explorer's
settings. Not sure if there's a similar arrangement on Linux.

Since you know the name of the hidden directory, it may be possible to
navigate to it by typing it's path in the filename field. i.e. enter
/mnt/home/root/.mozilla/ as the filename and press enter (or click open
or whatever the equivalent is), and it might then show the content of
that directory. Again, just a guess based on the Windows version.

Mark.

The file browser in this linux permits to hide or display hidden files. 
The file browser is ROX.
I wasn't able to click on the field of the file name in the file open 
window to change it.
I'll make another test and put the file browser in the mode to display 
hidden files/directories to see if in SeaMonkey there is a change and 
report back.
Normally for other linux applications, I don't have to do that. The 
hidden files/directories are displayed in the file open dialogue window.

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Re: path to newsgroup config. (SeaMonkey 2.30 linux)

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Daniel wrote:

On 28/10/14 09:00, Béèm wrote:

I wanted to add newsgroups from the already defined mozilla server.
As I saw the path was wrong I wanted to browse to the correct directory.


Beem, which path was wrong?? What file are you looking for/at??


In my version of puppy linux, the path goes via root and a hidden
directory .mozilla. The file open dialogue didn't see this hidden
dialogue, so I was unable to go the the news directory in the mozilla
profile.

Why is this so and how can I correct the open file dialogue to see also
hidden directories?


The path was /mnt/sda3/root/.mozilla/ and had to be 
/mnt/home/root/.mozilla/.
When pushing browse in the file open dialogue I got all the files in 
/mnt/home/root except the hidden files, so those with a dot in front.


So the question remains, why is this so? A bug?
But I found I could go in about:config and edit the path manually.
Not a solution for beginners or non-technical users.
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path to newsgroup config. (SeaMonkey 2.30 linux)

[Béèm]

I wanted to add newsgroups from the already defined mozilla server.
As I saw the path was wrong I wanted to browse to the correct directory.
In my version of puppy linux, the path goes via root and a hidden 
directory .mozilla. The file open dialogue didn't see this hidden 
dialogue, so I was unable to go the the news directory in the mozilla 
profile.


Why is this so and how can I correct the open file dialogue to see also 
hidden directories?

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Re: Password window for smtp server gmail (SeaMonkey 2.30 Linux)

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Béèm wrote:

I did setup SeaMonkey mail to retrieve mail from gmail accounts.
I defined the smt outgoing server, but didn't find how to setup the
password for this server. I have been asked to fill in the userid tho.

I got once the window to fill in the password.

Now I don't get that window in front when I push sent to sent an e-mail.
I can't even close normally the sent window and the SeaMonkey mail
window. I have to kill those windows and then I see that window where I
have to fill in the password.

In order to avoid this, I would prefer I could fill in the password in
the smpt outgoing server configuration, but I don't see how to do this.

Can this be done and if yes, how?

Today I tried again.
To my surprise, without having changed something, I got the window to 
enter the password on top of the other windows now.
So I could enter the password and to my surprise I even got the question 
if I would like to remember the password. For sure I did it.

But still a puzzling situation.
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Password window for smtp server gmail (SeaMonkey 2.30 Linux)

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I did setup SeaMonkey mail to retrieve mail from gmail accounts.
I defined the smt outgoing server, but didn't find how to setup the 
password for this server. I have been asked to fill in the userid tho.


I got once the window to fill in the password.

Now I don't get that window in front when I push sent to sent an e-mail.
I can't even close normally the sent window and the SeaMonkey mail 
window. I have to kill those windows and then I see that window where I 
have to fill in the password.


In order to avoid this, I would prefer I could fill in the password in 
the smpt outgoing server configuration, but I don't see how to do this.


Can this be done and if yes, how?
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Re: v2.15.2 is out!

[Béèm]

Ant wrote:

http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.15/changes

Update successful
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Re: [linux] seamonkey 2.15.1 remembering passwords

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NoOp wrote:

On 01/31/2013 02:30 PM, Béèm wrote:

WaltS wrote:

...

4) I believe signons.sqlite is where passwords are stored. Confirmed by
renaming mine, and now I have no domains, usernames, or passwords in
Password Manager.


Thank you for trying to help.
I installed the remember-passwords addon, but to no avail.
Signons.sqlite should be the one indeed.
I tried to see in there but my knowledge of sql statements to load/see
the tables isn't adequate.

As I have also a firefox 18.0.1 install I tried with it and I have no
problems for passwords to be remembered, alltho I don't have the
remember-passwords addons.

But I copied the firefox signons.sqlite to the seamonkey profile, but I
still have the problem.

So I am pretty sure my original seamonkey's signons.sqlite is ok.

Still not sure what next step to do.



<http://kb.mozillazine.org/Password_Manager>
<http://kb.mozillazine.org/User_name_and_password_not_remembered>

Might help.


Thank you for the tips.

But something weird has happened.

As I said in a previous reply, seamonkey 2.11 did work correctly.
Passwords for gmail and yahoo mail were remembered.

I did shutdown the laptop.

This morning I did boot the laptop and used again, as usual, seamonkey 
2.15.1  and to my big surprise, I was presented with the passwords for 
gmail and yahoo mail.

I suppose the passage through 2.11 has restored something to the profile.
Difficult to know what, if any, but it makes me feel uneasy.
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Re: [linux] seamonkey 2.15.1 remembering passwords

[Béèm]

Béèm wrote:

WaltS wrote:

On 01/31/2013 01:59 PM, Béèm wrote:

Béèm wrote:

Now my issue with the searchengines is solved I continue my frustration
with remembering passwords.

Also in preferences I did check to remember passwords for logins (like
gmail, yahoo etc...) they aren't remembered

When clicking on the userid field the I can select the corresponding
userid, but the password field stays blank. I have to re-type the
password.

When I go to password manager, the domain list is displayed briefly and
then stays empty.
So I can't verify through this.
I didn't set a master password.

I looked in about:config to see if there is some option for this aspect
of passwords, but didn't find an.

I disabled all add-ons to be sure there is no interference here.

I switched to the original theme to be sure as well.

All to no avail.

Hope someone can guide me in the good direction to find what goes
wrong.

btw. What is the name of the file where passwords are stored?

I suppose nobody can help with this issue?



1) Not all sites activate the Password Manager and allow you to store
passwords.

2) I installed the Remember Passwords extension in Firefox, which gets
around that problem. For SeaMonkey,

<https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/remember-passwords/>

3) Sounds like you have more problems if your domain list only shows
briefly, and then stays empty.

4) I believe signons.sqlite is where passwords are stored. Confirmed by
renaming mine, and now I have no domains, usernames, or passwords in
Password Manager.


Thank you for trying to help.
I installed the remember-passwords addon, but to no avail.
Signons.sqlite should be the one indeed.
I tried to see in there but my knowledge of sql statements to load/see
the tables isn't adequate.

As I have also a firefox 18.0.1 install I tried with it and I have no
problems for passwords to be remembered, alltho I don't have the
remember-passwords addons.

But I copied the firefox signons.sqlite to the seamonkey profile, but I
still have the problem.

So I am pretty sure my original seamonkey's signons.sqlite is ok.

Still not sure what next step to do.
As seamonkey 2.11 was the one I used before 2.15 and as that one was ok, 
I installed it.

I disabled the remember-passwords addon and tried gmail and yahoo mail.
In both cases, I was asked if I wanted to remember the password and I 
did so.

Next time I went to gmail and yahoo mail, the password was filled in.

So something happens in 2.15 and 2.15.1 (jumped from 2.11 to 2.15)

Still puzzled.
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Re: [linux] seamonkey 2.15.1 remembering passwords

[Béèm]

WaltS wrote:

On 01/31/2013 01:59 PM, Béèm wrote:

Béèm wrote:

Now my issue with the searchengines is solved I continue my frustration
with remembering passwords.

Also in preferences I did check to remember passwords for logins (like
gmail, yahoo etc...) they aren't remembered

When clicking on the userid field the I can select the corresponding
userid, but the password field stays blank. I have to re-type the
password.

When I go to password manager, the domain list is displayed briefly and
then stays empty.
So I can't verify through this.
I didn't set a master password.

I looked in about:config to see if there is some option for this aspect
of passwords, but didn't find an.

I disabled all add-ons to be sure there is no interference here.

I switched to the original theme to be sure as well.

All to no avail.

Hope someone can guide me in the good direction to find what goes wrong.

btw. What is the name of the file where passwords are stored?

I suppose nobody can help with this issue?



1) Not all sites activate the Password Manager and allow you to store
passwords.

2) I installed the Remember Passwords extension in Firefox, which gets
around that problem. For SeaMonkey,

<https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/remember-passwords/>

3) Sounds like you have more problems if your domain list only shows
briefly, and then stays empty.

4) I believe signons.sqlite is where passwords are stored. Confirmed by
renaming mine, and now I have no domains, usernames, or passwords in
Password Manager.


Thank you for trying to help.
I installed the remember-passwords addon, but to no avail.
Signons.sqlite should be the one indeed.
I tried to see in there but my knowledge of sql statements to load/see 
the tables isn't adequate.


As I have also a firefox 18.0.1 install I tried with it and I have no 
problems for passwords to be remembered, alltho I don't have the 
remember-passwords addons.


But I copied the firefox signons.sqlite to the seamonkey profile, but I 
still have the problem.


So I am pretty sure my original seamonkey's signons.sqlite is ok.

Still not sure what next step to do.
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Re: [linux] seamonkey 2.15.1 remembering passwords

[Béèm]

Béèm wrote:

Now my issue with the searchengines is solved I continue my frustration
with remembering passwords.

Also in preferences I did check to remember passwords for logins (like
gmail, yahoo etc...) they aren't remembered

When clicking on the userid field the I can select the corresponding
userid, but the password field stays blank. I have to re-type the password.

When I go to password manager, the domain list is displayed briefly and
then stays empty.
So I can't verify through this.
I didn't set a master password.

I looked in about:config to see if there is some option for this aspect
of passwords, but didn't find an.

I disabled all add-ons to be sure there is no interference here.

I switched to the original theme to be sure as well.

All to no avail.

Hope someone can guide me in the good direction to find what goes wrong.

btw. What is the name of the file where passwords are stored?

I suppose nobody can help with this issue?
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[linux] seamonkey 2.15.1 remembering passwords

[Béèm]

Now my issue with the searchengines is solved I continue my frustration 
with remembering passwords.


Also in preferences I did check to remember passwords for logins (like 
gmail, yahoo etc...) they aren't remembered


When clicking on the userid field the I can select the corresponding 
userid, but the password field stays blank. I have to re-type the password.


When I go to password manager, the domain list is displayed briefly and 
then stays empty.

So I can't verify through this.
I didn't set a master password.

I looked in about:config to see if there is some option for this aspect 
of passwords, but didn't find an.


I disabled all add-ons to be sure there is no interference here.

I switched to the original theme to be sure as well.

All to no avail.

Hope someone can guide me in the good direction to find what goes wrong.

btw. What is the name of the file where passwords are stored?
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Re: New messages immediately treated as "read"

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ayas...@gmail.com wrote:

On Sunday, January 27, 2013 5:19:32 PM UTC+2, Béèm wrote:

ayas...@gmail.com wrote:


On Sunday, January 27, 2013 12:47:48 PM UTC+2, Daniel wrote:



ayas...@gmail.com wrote:







For some weeks now - before and still in 2.15.1 - whenever my SeaMonkey 
retrieves new messages from a newsgroup, those messages are immediately treated 
as if they have been read. This makes it very difficult to locate new messages 
within any long-term context.















Clearing "Automatically mark messages as read" does not help. Selecting that option and 
setting a long delay - for example, 30 seconds - makes no difference. Every retrieved message is 
immediately treated as read and hence indistinguishable from other messages except when applying a 
display filter (like "Recent Mail".















Is there any way to restore the earlier and much more reasonable behavior?















Check your settings at View->Messages and View->Threads. Mine are *All*







and *Threads with unread*, respectively, and I can see all my old messages.







Thanks for the tip, Daniel. But as soon as I set "View>>Threads>>Threads with 
Unread", all of the threads in which I have currently read all messages disappear. What I would 
like is a single view that lets me see all of the threads with messages (read or unread), but be able 
to recognize which threads have unread messages and which messages within those threads are unread.






I use two extra indicator headers

1� total messages unread in thread

2� total messages in thread.



If you expand all the threads, then you can see maybe more easily where

there are messages unread.



Also I don't have the fenomen you describe.

I have view-messages-all and view-threads-all


Beem, I am not sure what you mean by additional "indicator headers". How did 
you set that up in SM?

That said, I just changed my settings back to view-messages-all and 
view-threads-all, and mysteriously SM did not automatically mark all my 
messages as read. In other words, it appears like it used to. So my original 
problem, which appeared for reasons unknown, might be solved, also for reasons 
unknown.

On the rightmost side of the headers bar you can select the colomns to 
display. Among those you have

- total messages unread in thread
- total messages in thread.
I like this, so I can easily whether a thread contains unread messages 
with no need to expand the thread.

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Re: [linux] 2.15.1 search engines

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NoOp wrote:

On 01/28/2013 02:48 PM, Béèm wrote:
...

Good thinking.

The checksum is ok.
To extract, I display the tar file in the ROX-filer.
When I clck on it, Xarchiver 0.5.2 is opened with the tar file inside.
I select extract and the tar is extracted.

As a test I did the tar -tvf command and saw now the searchplugins
listed with the xml files inside.

So I did a tar -xvf and have indeed the searchplugins extracted as
should be with the xml files inside.

So something is wrong with Xarchiver 0.5.2 and the seamonkey tar isn't
extracted correctly.

This could explain other weird things I have some times, like the
auto-update not being executed correctly.

Thank you for your intervention.



You are most welcome. Happy searchplugging :-)



Just to add.
As I had the same issue with firefox 18.0.1 I did the untar trhough the 
console also.

Now I have the searchplugins with the xml files also.
Again proof that something is wrong with the Xarchiver 0.5.2 in the 
puppy linux version I am using.

Work for the developer. ;-)
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Re: [linux] 2.15.1 search engines

[Béèm]

NoOp wrote:

On 01/28/2013 05:02 AM, Béèm wrote:
...

Now for the program directory structure which is elsewhere
# pwd
/mnt/sda3/seamonkey/searchplugins
# ls -al
total 24
drwxr-xr-x  2 root root 1024 jan 26 12:48 .
drwxr-xr-x 25 root root 5120 jan 25 23:31 ..
-rw-r--r--  1 root root 1607 okt 11 00:52 amazondotcom.xml
-rw-r--r--  1 root root 2465 okt 11 00:52 bing.xml
-rw-r--r--  1 root root 1344 okt 11 00:52 eBay.xml
-rw-r--r--  1 root root 3581 okt 11 00:52 google.xml
-rw-r--r--  1 root root 2058 okt 11 00:52 twitter.xml
-rw-r--r--  1 root root 1391 okt 11 00:52 wikipedia.xml
-rw-r--r--  1 root root 1309 okt 11 00:52 yahoo.xml
#
Note that the searchplugins directory is empty after I extracted the
seamonkey files from the tar. The xml files you see here are put by hand
from another working firefox install.

Once I copied those xml files by hand, I had the pull down list in the
preferences.


That is indeed unusual. If you check the tar.bz

$ tar -tvf seamonkey-2.15.1.tar.bz2
$ md5sum seamonkey-2.15.1.tar.bz2
39af07da664bd100e4f9c4941cb81987  seamonkey-2.15.1.tar.bz2

and

$ tar -tvf seamonkey-2.15.1.en-US.linux-x86_64.tar.bz2
$ md5sum seamonkey-2.15.1.en-US.linux-x86_64.tar.bz2
db4961c7df843c716c67a7b07066b8de
seamonkey-2.15.1.en-US.linux-x86_64.tar.bz2

  you should find (32bit & 64bit respectively):

drwxr-xr-x 0/0   0 2013-01-18 20:03 seamonkey/searchplugins/
-rw-r--r-- 0/01747 2013-01-18 20:03
seamonkey/searchplugins/creativecommons.xml
-rw-r--r-- 0/01251 2013-01-18 20:03
seamonkey/searchplugins/yahoo.xml
-rw-r--r-- 0/01391 2013-01-18 20:03
seamonkey/searchplugins/wikipedia.xml
-rw-r--r-- 0/02584 2013-01-18 20:03
seamonkey/searchplugins/google.xml

and

drwxr-xr-x 0/0   0 2013-01-18 20:04 seamonkey/searchplugins/
-rw-r--r-- 0/01391 2013-01-18 20:04
seamonkey/searchplugins/wikipedia.xml
-rw-r--r-- 0/01251 2013-01-18 20:04
seamonkey/searchplugins/yahoo.xml
-rw-r--r-- 0/02584 2013-01-18 20:04
seamonkey/searchplugins/google.xml
-rw-r--r-- 0/01747 2013-01-18 20:04
seamonkey/searchplugins/creativecommons.xml

So if those aren't getting extracted, then yes you've a problem. How are
you extracting the .tar.bz?



So I know now how o correct the situation, but it seems not to be normal
that those xml files aren't in the seamonkey tar file.


I also check the German version:
$ md5sum seamonkey-2.15.1.tar.bz2
fb9042404aa5bed8f1db26e1dc3fb994  seamonkey-2.15.1.tar.bz2
and the directory & xml files are there as well.



As said in another part of the thread.
I have the same issue with the firefox 18.01 tar.
When extraced the searchplugins directory is empty.
And I also don't have the pull down list until I copy by hand the xml files.

Hope I answered as you wished.




Good thinking.

The checksum is ok.
To extract, I display the tar file in the ROX-filer.
When I clck on it, Xarchiver 0.5.2 is opened with the tar file inside.
I select extract and the tar is extracted.

As a test I did the tar -tvf command and saw now the searchplugins 
listed with the xml files inside.


So I did a tar -xvf and have indeed the searchplugins extracted as 
should be with the xml files inside.


So something is wrong with Xarchiver 0.5.2 and the seamonkey tar isn't 
extracted correctly.


This could explain other weird things I have some times, like the 
auto-update not being executed correctly.


Thank you for your intervention.
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Re: [linux] 2.15.1 search engines

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NoOp wrote:

On 01/26/2013 12:18 PM, NoOp wrote:

On 01/26/2013 03:55 AM, Béèm wrote:

Already with 2.15 I had the problem that I had no search engines, due to
the searchplugins directory being empty. I took them then from a FireFox
install.

I did an auto-update to 2.15.1, but it didn't work.
So I downloaded 2.15.1 tar and installed by hand.

But again the searchplugins directory is empty.


See below.


Repaired see above, but it is annoying that the update didn't work and
the search engines aren't included.

Anyone having seen this?



What do you show for:
$ ls -al /home//seamonkey/seamonkey/searchplugins


Why don't you *answer* the question?

Note: you stated that you extracted and are running SeaMonkey from
/home//seamonkey/seamonkey, if you'd put it someplace else then
adjust accordingly.



total 64
drwxr-xr-x  2 gl gl  4096 Jan  5 21:09 .
drwxr-xr-x 12 gl gl 12288 Jan  5 21:09 ..
-rw-r--r--  1 gl gl  1747 Jan  5 21:09 creativecommons.xml
-rw-r--r--  1 gl gl  2584 Jan  5 21:09 google.xml
-rw-r--r--  1 gl gl  1391 Jan  5 21:09 wikipedia.xml
-rw-r--r--  1 gl gl  1251 Jan  5 21:09 yahoo.xml

If you show those (you should) then create a test profile and see if the
search options show up in the test profile. If so, then you have a
profile issue, not a SeaMonkey version/install issue.


And... ?

Remember, your original issue is/was:


When I go into edit|preferences|internet search I have no pull down list
of search engines and when I select manage search engines, there is no
list to select from.




I thought my other comments were clear, but here goes.
I use puppylinux which is always working in root.
The 'home' is called root here.
# pwd
/mnt/sda3/root/.mozilla/seamonkey/034yzsdv.default
# ls -al
total 14575
drwx-- 13 root root 3072 jan 28 13:44 .
drwx--  4 root root 1024 jan 17 16:12 ..
-rwxrwxrwx  1 root root 4490 feb 15  2010 7061598.s
-rw-r--r--  1 root root 1373 jan 17 17:07 abook.mab
drwxr-xr-x  2 root root 1024 jan 28 13:44 adblockplus
-rw-r--r--  1 root root   364350 jan 28 13:43 adblockplus-rules.json
-rw-r--r--  1 root root   524288 jan 27 12:17 addons.sqlite
-rw-r--r--  1 root root33054 jan 28 13:44 blocklist.xml
drwx--  2 root root 1024 jan 28 10:32 bookmarkbackups
drwxr-xr-x 18 root root 1024 jan 28 13:32 Cache
-rw---  1 root root1 jan 28 13:44 _CACHE_CLEAN_
-rw---  1 root root   114688 jan 28 13:34 cert8.db
-rw---  1 root root  334 jan 22 18:04 cert_override.txt
-rw---  1 root root  185 jan 28 13:38 compatibility.ini
-rw-r--r--  1 root root   229376 jan 28 13:42 content-prefs.sqlite
-rw-r--r--  1 root root   524288 jan 28 13:47 cookies.sqlite
-rw-r--r--  1 root root32768 jan 28 13:49 cookies.sqlite-shm
-rw-r--r--  1 root root   590288 jan 28 13:49 cookies.sqlite-wal
-rw-r--r--  1 root root65536 jan 28 11:11 downloads.sqlite
drwxr-xr-x  3 root root 1024 jan 18 14:27 extensions
-rw-r--r--  1 root root  228 jan 28 13:38 extensions.ini
-rw-r--r--  1 root root   524288 jan 27 17:29 extensions.sqlite
-rw---  1 root root70387 jan 28 13:34 flashgot.log
-rw-r--r--  1 root root   196608 jan 28 13:40 formhistory.sqlite
drwxr-xr-x  2 root root 1024 jan 18 14:27 ghostery
-rw-r--r--  1 root root 1373 jan 17 17:07 history.mab
-rw---  1 root root 4096 jan 28 13:34 key3.db
-rw-r--r--  1 root root23061 jan 28 11:11 localstore.rdf
-rw-r--r--  1 root root 1523 jan 19 12:45 localstore-safe.rdf
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root   16 jan 28 13:38 lock -> 127.0.0.1:+16133
drwx--  3 root root 1024 jan 19 13:29 Mail
-rw-r--r--  1 root root   25 jan 18 16:57 mailViews.dat
-rw-r--r--  1 root root 3103 jan 25 23:25 mimeTypes.rdf
drwx--  2 root root 1024 jan 26 14:17 minidumps
drwx--  3 root root 1024 jan 19 13:29 News
drwx--  2 root root 1024 jan 17 17:05 OfflineCache
-rw-r--r--  1 root root 4133 jan 28 13:49 panacea.dat
-rw-r--r--  1 root root0 jan 28 13:38 .parentlock
-rw-r--r--  1 root root65536 jan 28 13:44 permissions.sqlite
-rw-r--r--  1 root root 10485760 jan 28 13:41 places.sqlite
-rw-r--r--  1 root root32768 jan 28 13:42 places.sqlite-shm
-rw-r--r--  1 root root   426328 jan 28 13:42 places.sqlite-wal
-rw---  1 root root 5373 jan 28 13:38 pluginreg.dat
-rw---  1 root root17255 jan 28 13:38 prefs.js
-rw-r--r--  1 root root11421 jan 28 13:38 search.json
-rw---  1 root root 4096 jan 17 16:12 secmod.db
-rw---  1 root root32392 jan 28 13:38 sessionstore.bak
-rw---  1 root root 6319 jan 28 13:42 sessionstore.json
-rw-r--r--  1 root root   327680 jan 17 16:16 signons.sqlite
drwxr-xr-x  2 root root 1024 jan 28 13:39 startupCache
-rw-r--r--  1 root root65536 jan 28 13:40 urlbarhistory.sqlite
-rw-r--r--  1 root root   10 jan 27 23:58 virtualFolders.dat
drwxr-xr-x  5 root root 1024 jan 18 18:39 weave
-rw-r--r--  1 root root98304 jan 28 

Re: New messages immediately treated as "read"

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ayas...@gmail.com wrote:

On Sunday, January 27, 2013 12:47:48 PM UTC+2, Daniel wrote:

ayas...@gmail.com wrote:


For some weeks now - before and still in 2.15.1 - whenever my SeaMonkey 
retrieves new messages from a newsgroup, those messages are immediately treated 
as if they have been read. This makes it very difficult to locate new messages 
within any long-term context.







Clearing "Automatically mark messages as read" does not help. Selecting that option and 
setting a long delay - for example, 30 seconds - makes no difference. Every retrieved message is 
immediately treated as read and hence indistinguishable from other messages except when applying a 
display filter (like "Recent Mail".







Is there any way to restore the earlier and much more reasonable behavior?




Check your settings at View->Messages and View->Threads. Mine are *All*

and *Threads with unread*, respectively, and I can see all my old messages.


Thanks for the tip, Daniel. But as soon as I set "View>>Threads>>Threads with 
Unread", all of the threads in which I have currently read all messages disappear. What I would 
like is a single view that lets me see all of the threads with messages (read or unread), but be able 
to recognize which threads have unread messages and which messages within those threads are unread.


I use two extra indicator headers
1° total messages unread in thread
2° total messages in thread.

If you expand all the threads, then you can see maybe more easily where 
there are messages unread.


Also I don't have the fenomen you describe.
I have view-messages-all and view-threads-all
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Re: [linux] 2.15.1 search engines

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Béèm wrote:

Philip Chee wrote:

On Sun, 27 Jan 2013 11:57:08 +0100, Béèm wrote:


I am a bit confused now.
Where should the searchplugins directory be in?
In the profile directory structure?
Or in the program directory structure?


We ship some default search engines and they are installed in the
seamonkey/searchplugins/ directory.


Not the case for SeaMonkey 2.15 and 2.15.1, but was the case for 2.11
Not the case for FireFox, but the search xml files are in the main
firefox directory, but not found by FireFox.

In addition users can install search plugins in their
profile/searchplugins/ directory by simply going to (say)
mycroft.mozdev.org. and installing a search plugin from there.


That makes sense.

Thirdly search plugins can be delivered as part of an extension in the
XPI's searchplugins/ directory.


I have not done this for plugins.

On some Operating Systems, there is a system global location for
installing search plugins. Please consult your OS manual on this.


Correct. See: MOZ_PLUGIN_PATH=/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins
However even when putting them there, they aren't seen.
In this directory there are the plugins as seen by about:plugins.


Phil


Conclusion for now:
It seems that (maybe in my case) the search xml files should be in
/program/searchplugins directory, where program is SeaMonkey or
FireFox.
But they aren't put there when I do the extract from the seamonkey or
firefox tar files. But for seamonkey 2.11 it wasn't a problem.
My OS hasn't changed since the 2.11 time.

I will try to treat them as user additions so they are in the profile
directory structure. I have to do this test yet.
But if positive, I won't have the issue anymore when updating a
seamonkey or firefox in my environment.


Just did the test for firefox.
In the default profile structure I created a searchplugins directory.
I copy those basic xml search files in there and voila I can select now 
the search engines.

I am pretty confident this will hold between later updates.
Maybe not the official way of doing, but I suppose it works for me.
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Re: [linux] 2.15.1 search engines

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Philip Chee wrote:

On Sun, 27 Jan 2013 11:57:08 +0100, Béèm wrote:


I am a bit confused now.
Where should the searchplugins directory be in?
In the profile directory structure?
Or in the program directory structure?


We ship some default search engines and they are installed in the
seamonkey/searchplugins/ directory.


Not the case for SeaMonkey 2.15 and 2.15.1, but was the case for 2.11
Not the case for FireFox, but the search xml files are in the main 
firefox directory, but not found by FireFox.

In addition users can install search plugins in their
profile/searchplugins/ directory by simply going to (say)
mycroft.mozdev.org. and installing a search plugin from there.


That makes sense.

Thirdly search plugins can be delivered as part of an extension in the
XPI's searchplugins/ directory.


I have not done this for plugins.

On some Operating Systems, there is a system global location for
installing search plugins. Please consult your OS manual on this.


Correct. See: MOZ_PLUGIN_PATH=/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins
However even when putting them there, they aren't seen.
In this directory there are the plugins as seen by about:plugins.


Phil


Conclusion for now:
It seems that (maybe in my case) the search xml files should be in 
/program/searchplugins directory, where program is SeaMonkey or FireFox.
But they aren't put there when I do the extract from the seamonkey or 
firefox tar files. But for seamonkey 2.11 it wasn't a problem.

My OS hasn't changed since the 2.11 time.

I will try to treat them as user additions so they are in the profile 
directory structure. I have to do this test yet.
But if positive, I won't have the issue anymore when updating a 
seamonkey or firefox in my environment.


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Re: [linux] 2.15.1 search engines

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Béèm wrote:

Craig wrote:

NoOp wrote:


What do you show for:
$ ls -al /home//seamonkey/seamonkey/searchplugins
total 64
drwxr-xr-x  2 gl gl  4096 Jan  5 21:09 .
drwxr-xr-x 12 gl gl 12288 Jan  5 21:09 ..
-rw-r--r--  1 gl gl  1747 Jan  5 21:09 creativecommons.xml
-rw-r--r--  1 gl gl  2584 Jan  5 21:09 google.xml
-rw-r--r--  1 gl gl  1391 Jan  5 21:09 wikipedia.xml
-rw-r--r--  1 gl gl  1251 Jan  5 21:09 yahoo.xml

If you show those (you should) then create a test profile and see if the
search options show up in the test profile. If so, then you have a
profile issue, not a SeaMonkey version/install issue.


You will show those ONLY if you install SeaMonkey in your home directory.

If you install it in /usr/local, you will see

directory of: /usr/local/seamonkey/searchplugins
total 16
-rw-r--r-- 1 root 1747 Jan 18 21:03 creativecommons.xml
-rw-r--r-- 1 root 2584 Jan 18 21:03 google.xml
-rw-r--r-- 1 root 1391 Jan 18 21:03 wikipedia.xml
-rw-r--r-- 1 root 1251 Jan 18 21:03 yahoo.xml


Craig


I am a bit confused now.
Where should the searchplugins directory be in?
In the profile directory structure?
Or in the program directory structure?
In my case for FireFox as for SeaMonkey, the program files are not
installed in the home directory structure, but elsewhere.
So I don't find searchplugins in the profile (home) directory structure
nor for FireFox nor for SeaMonkey.
FireFox has the searchplugins in the program files directory structure,
but, SeaMonkey when freshly installed doesn't have the searchplugins
directory in the program files directory structure.

Hence my suspicion that the tar file for SeaMonkey 2.15 and SeaMonkey
2.15,1 have that searchplugins directory missing.

Well well.
As the FireFox I have was pre-installed in the version linux I have, I 
thought to download the 18.01 tar and extract it in a test directory.
To my surprise, the searchplugins directory is empty as well, like in 
the SeaMonkey 2.15 and 2.15.1 case.


So the pertinent question remains: What is the correct place to put the 
search xml files in?

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Re: [linux] 2.15.1 search engines

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Craig wrote:

NoOp wrote:


What do you show for:
$ ls -al /home//seamonkey/seamonkey/searchplugins
total 64
drwxr-xr-x  2 gl gl  4096 Jan  5 21:09 .
drwxr-xr-x 12 gl gl 12288 Jan  5 21:09 ..
-rw-r--r--  1 gl gl  1747 Jan  5 21:09 creativecommons.xml
-rw-r--r--  1 gl gl  2584 Jan  5 21:09 google.xml
-rw-r--r--  1 gl gl  1391 Jan  5 21:09 wikipedia.xml
-rw-r--r--  1 gl gl  1251 Jan  5 21:09 yahoo.xml

If you show those (you should) then create a test profile and see if the
search options show up in the test profile. If so, then you have a
profile issue, not a SeaMonkey version/install issue.


You will show those ONLY if you install SeaMonkey in your home directory.

If you install it in /usr/local, you will see

directory of: /usr/local/seamonkey/searchplugins
total 16
-rw-r--r-- 1 root 1747 Jan 18 21:03 creativecommons.xml
-rw-r--r-- 1 root 2584 Jan 18 21:03 google.xml
-rw-r--r-- 1 root 1391 Jan 18 21:03 wikipedia.xml
-rw-r--r-- 1 root 1251 Jan 18 21:03 yahoo.xml


Craig


I am a bit confused now.
Where should the searchplugins directory be in?
In the profile directory structure?
Or in the program directory structure?
In my case for FireFox as for SeaMonkey, the program files are not 
installed in the home directory structure, but elsewhere.
So I don't find searchplugins in the profile (home) directory structure 
nor for FireFox nor for SeaMonkey.
FireFox has the searchplugins in the program files directory structure, 
but, SeaMonkey when freshly installed doesn't have the searchplugins 
directory in the program files directory structure.


Hence my suspicion that the tar file for SeaMonkey 2.15 and SeaMonkey 
2.15,1 have that searchplugins directory missing.

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Re: How to download flash videos from websites in Seamonkey ???

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dirk wrote:


Anyone??

I use the flashgot add-on
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Re: [linux] 2.15.1 search engines

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WaltS wrote:

Béèm wrote:

Already with 2.15 I had the problem that I had no search engines, due to
the searchplugins directory being empty. I took them then from a FireFox
install.

I did an auto-update to 2.15.1, but it didn't work.
So I downloaded 2.15.1 tar and installed by hand.

But again the searchplugins directory is empty.
Repaired see above, but it is annoying that the update didn't work and
the search engines aren't included.

Anyone having seen this?



Should have added that my profile folder doesn't have a searchplugins
folder, but I didn't check before posting my previous reply.

The searchplugins directory is in the program directory structure, not 
in the profile.

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[linux] 2.15.1 search engines

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Already with 2.15 I had the problem that I had no search engines, due to 
the searchplugins directory being empty. I took them then from a FireFox 
install.


I did an auto-update to 2.15.1, but it didn't work.
So I downloaded 2.15.1 tar and installed by hand.

But again the searchplugins directory is empty.
Repaired see above, but it is annoying that the update didn't work and 
the search engines aren't included.


Anyone having seen this?
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Re: [linux sm 2.15] Unable to define/select search engines.

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Béèm wrote:

NoOp wrote:

On 01/21/2013 02:21 PM, Béèm wrote:

When I go into edit|preferences|internet search I have no pull down list
of search engines and when I select manage search engines, there is no
list to select from.

What could cause this.

In 2.11 I didn't had this problem.




WFM.
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:18.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/18.0 SeaMonkey/2.15
 Build identifier: 20130105222033

and 32bit:
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:18.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/18.0 SeaMonkey/2.15.1
 Build identifier: 20130118191211

How did you install? I simply put in a /home/user/seamonkey directory,
extract there & run from there.

You should at least have the defaults:
$ ls /home/<>/seamonkey/seamonkey/searchplugins
creativecommons.xml  google.xml  wikipedia.xml  yahoo.xml

And possibly more that you may have installed yourself in:
$ ls /home/<>/.mozilla/seamonkey/<>.default/searchplugins
ebay-completed.xml ixquick_seamon_secure_en.xml  yahoo.xml
ixquick.pngsearchplugins-backup
ixquick_seamon_en.xml  ubuntu-manpage-search.png


Thank you for that precious info.
I install the same way as you, but my searchplugins directory is empty.
That explains it I suppose.
Maybe something went wrong with the download and/or the untar.
I'll redo the installation, specially as the update to 2.15.1 doesn't
work either.
I had also a FireFox installation and copied those missing xml files 
over to SeaMonkey.

Search is working now as before.
Thank you.
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Re: Every version of Java disabled by SM!

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Daniel wrote:

Roger Fink wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Roger Fink wrote:


I can't remember how many definitive conclusions I've reached in
solving particular computer problems that I've had to walk back, but
it's been many, many. Usually, the farther out you travel on the
diagnostic tree, the more suspicious you need to be of the latest
definitive conclusion.


OK, folks, it's time to start pruning.

Did this message really need to include 158 lines of previous
messages?
--
War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left.


I apologize for that. I actually thought it was a breach of posting
etiquette to do that, and that it was an action reserved for
moderators. Now
that I know differently I'll go at it with a vengeance.


Roger, in a previous life, these support groups (or their forerunners)
were on the secnews.netscape.com news server and there, in the support
groups, the preference was to not trim at all.

When those groups closed and the move was made here, the policy changed.
Some still prefer the old situation, others prefer the new situation.


Thanks for reminding that secnews had closed.
I didn't remember.
Indeed the policy was then as you describe.
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Re: [linux sm 2.15] Unable to define/select search engines.

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Daniel wrote:

Béèm wrote:

When I go into edit|preferences|internet search I have no pull down list
of search engines and when I select manage search engines, there is no
list to select from.

What could cause this.

In 2.11 I didn't had this problem.


Beem, when I go to Edit->Preferences->Browser->Internet Search and click
the drop down I get a list of four search sites, Google, Yahoo, Creative
Commons, Wikipedia

Don't know why yours is different.


Thank you.
NoOp did put me on the correct track.
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Re: [linux sm 2.15] Unable to define/select search engines.

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NoOp wrote:

On 01/21/2013 02:21 PM, Béèm wrote:

When I go into edit|preferences|internet search I have no pull down list
of search engines and when I select manage search engines, there is no
list to select from.

What could cause this.

In 2.11 I didn't had this problem.




WFM.
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:18.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/18.0 SeaMonkey/2.15
 Build identifier: 20130105222033

and 32bit:
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:18.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/18.0 SeaMonkey/2.15.1
 Build identifier: 20130118191211

How did you install? I simply put in a /home/user/seamonkey directory,
extract there & run from there.

You should at least have the defaults:
$ ls /home/<>/seamonkey/seamonkey/searchplugins
creativecommons.xml  google.xml  wikipedia.xml  yahoo.xml

And possibly more that you may have installed yourself in:
$ ls /home/<>/.mozilla/seamonkey/<>.default/searchplugins
ebay-completed.xml ixquick_seamon_secure_en.xml  yahoo.xml
ixquick.pngsearchplugins-backup
ixquick_seamon_en.xml  ubuntu-manpage-search.png


Thank you for that precious info.
I install the same way as you, but my searchplugins directory is empty.
That explains it I suppose.
Maybe something went wrong with the download and/or the untar.
I'll redo the installation, specially as the update to 2.15.1 doesn't 
work either.

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[linux sm 2.15] Unable to define/select search engines.

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When I go into edit|preferences|internet search I have no pull down list 
of search engines and when I select manage search engines, there is no 
list to select from.


What could cause this.

In 2.11 I didn't had this problem.
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Re: Every version of Javaa disabled by SM!

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David E. Ross wrote:

On 1/18/13 9:51 AM, Rickles wrote:

I've seen the notices and recommendations about the various Java
security holes.  I understand the concerns.  But there's one site my
wife visits regularly which requires Java, and now won't work on either
our XP-SP3 tower mainframe or a Win7 laptop, both with SM 2.15, because
SM has taken it upon itself to block every Java version back thru v6
Update 38.  The only option available to the user is to disable it in
Add-On Mgr, which is useless since SM has already locked it out.

This is the only site she wants to use which uses Java, so I'd
appreciate any recommendations as to how to turn SOME version of Java
back on in SM.



While I could still have Web pages use Java by selecting the Lego
graphic with the "Click here to activate plugin." caption, there was no
way to use the Java test page at
 to verify a correct
installation of Java.

I located the file blocklist.xml in my profile.  I opened it in an ASCII
editor (WordPad) and commented out six consecutive
 blocks that referenced Java.  I then changed
the properties of blocklist.xml to be read-only.

I DO NOT RECOMMEND this to others because of the risks, not only from
possible Java vulnerabilities but also because it disables future blocks
of other malware.  Thus, I will undo this when a newer version of Java
becomes available.  In the meantime, however, I now have Java fully
enabled for the very few Web pages with Java that I visit.


Probably only valid for the Windows version.
I just renamed the blocklist.xml, having seen the java statements in 
there but I have still no java. My version is 2.15 linux.

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[linux] closing a tab with middle click [SOLVED]

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Having had a crash HDD I had to re-install Seamonkey. I had 2.11 and 
installed now 2.15
I can't remember how I got it, but in 2.11 I was able to middle-click on 
an open tab and it closed.

In 2.15 this doesn't work anymore.
Is this due to a 'feature change' in 2.15, or was it a plugin in 2.11 
which I might have installed?

I didn't have to re-install the OS.
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Re: [linux] closing a tab with middle click

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Hartmut Figge wrote:

Béèm:


I can't remember how I got it, but in 2.11 I was able to middle-click on
an open tab and it closed.


I do not use that, but a test shows that it is so for my SM. Looking
into 'about:config' with the filter middle i see
middlemouse.contentLoadURL with the value false. Might be worth a try. :)

Hartmut


Great Hartmut.
That did the trick.
Thanks.
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[linux] closing a tab with middle click

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Having had a crash HDD I had to re-install Seamonkey. I had 2.11 and 
installed now 2.15
I can't remember how I got it, but in 2.11 I was able to middle-click on 
an open tab and it closed.

In 2.15 this doesn't work anymore.
Is this due to a 'feature change' in 2.15, or was it a plugin in 2.11 
which I might have installed?

I didn't have to re-install the OS.
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