Re: Mnenhy (Was: Replacement for addons (SM 2.46))

2016-10-10 Thread Lemon Juice

On 2016.10.09 23:10, Petr Voralek wrote:


  Now I just need replace Launchy, Scriptish (GreaseMonkey), SixOrNot,
and maybe YouTubeCenter... ;^)


Last I tested GreaseMonkey it worked fine in SM 2.45 after conversion.

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Re: seamonkey UI

2015-12-20 Thread Lemon Juice

On 2015-12-20 20:44, Fran Hynes wrote:

Recently, I read that it is being (seriously) considered separating the
two. Personally, that it is an all-in-one is the reason I chose it. Will
be disappointed if they separate them.


I'm curious - where did you read about it?

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Re: seamonkey UI

2015-12-20 Thread Lemon Juice

On 2015-12-20 20:34, Paul Gheno wrote:

Well, in my opinion, something wich is dedicated to deal with a lot of
users have to stick to the rule of the 90-90, that means suitable for
90% of the population enven a 90yo grandma !


[...]


I do not want to be rude, to be critical, but the actual seamonkey UI is
far away from the 90-90 rule and I let you check why.


This is a delicate subject because there is a reason why SeaMonkey's UI 
is the way it is - for many SM users the traditional "old-style" UI is 
one of its great features so I'm afraid you won't be able to influence 
too many changes in that area - however, it's not perfect and obviously 
there are things to improve like the (probably optional) close tab X's. 
Certainly, one of SM's features is that it is different from other 
browsers so merely trying to copy UI elements from other browsers 
without a really good reason - just because Chrome/Firefox/Edge have 
them - is not going to be accepted well. But of course, true usability 
improvements are always welcome!


Also, SM is not meant for 90% of population :). However, I think a 90yo 
grandma should have no problems with the UI at all because all the 
buttons and menu items have clear text labels and are not hidden 
anywhere - contrary to what other browsers often do. I think SM's UI is 
pretty easy to understand.



-> How to ?
-> Who could I contact ?


A good place to start would be bugzilla.mozilla.org and filing 
enhancement bugs. However, I don't think the devs will act upon most of 
such suggestions because the team is small and now they have many more 
important and serious issues to deal with, which have to do with the 
survival and existence of SM. So if you have an idea and get a yes from 
the SM devs it would be good if you could yourself provide a patch in 
order to implement your suggested features.

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Re: Newsgroups Only, eMail Only

2015-12-18 Thread Lemon Juice

On 2015-12-18 21:10, The Big Edit wrote:

EE wrote:

OldGuy wrote:

I will give the profiles a try and report back in a few days if the
problems are resolved.

If you look back thru the posts you will see others have had the same
problems when having both eMail and Newsgroups set up (in a single
profile configuration. maybe multiple profile will work.).
   e.g. the From: in newsgroups is NOT editable but only selectable.


It is editable.  I just did that.



Ditto for me. OldGuy you must have something else at play.


Judging from his original post he is using SeaMonkey 2.33.1 and the 
ability to freely edit From: is a recent feature - I'm not sure in which 
version exactly it was added but it must be 2.35 or 2.38.

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Re: 2.39 and system hanging

2015-11-16 Thread Lemon Juice

On 2015-11-16 01:26, Edmund Wong wrote:

Hi,

Is it just me, or does 2.39 hang a lot?  Especially with
getting email?   After clicking get messages, it'd download
the stuff, and then hang for about ten seconds or so and
then resume (after switching windows on me).  Like say
I am in the 3-pane message window.  I click on "Get Msgs".
It'd download the mail.  Then hang.  Once it resumes,
it jumps to some other browser window.

Mind you, this is with an old profile.  Guess I'll try
it with a new one.


I haven't experienced problems like that. "Switching windows on me" 
reminds me of an old unprotected Flash problem but this doesn't sound 
like a Flash problem. Just an idea - things like that can happen due to 
malfunctioning AV software.

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An extension to try out

2015-10-19 Thread Lemon Juice
Because this new (mis-)behaviour of my language choice changing behind 
my back has started bugging me I decided to write an extension that will 
remember the last used dictionary for spell check when composing mail. I 
don't know if it will work for all the cases mentioned in this thread 
but for me it works:


https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/last-dictionary-for-mail/

It is compatible with SM 2.35 and higher.

I made sure this extension co-operates well with 
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/seamonkey/addon/dictionary-for-recipient/ 
- if you are using both then the dictionary for recipient takes 
precedence if it's defined in the address book.


As far as I can see there's a lot of mess in the native SM and TB code 
regarding spell check and there are certain cases where selecting 
dictionary using the Spell button does not really work - and the 
dictionary for recipient extension may also fail. I haven't checked if 
the same bugs appear in TB but it looks like they are caused by the 
over-complicated implementation of recycled (semi-closed/hidden) mail 
compose windows.

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Re: Spelling choice is not maintained

2015-10-16 Thread Lemon Juice

There is an extension that can help:

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/seamonkey/addon/dictionary-for-recipient/

This does not bring back the old behaviour but for some scenarios could 
work.


I don't think there is an extension (yet) to bring back the old 
behaviour because this issue/change is quite new.

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Re: Spelling choice is not maintained

2015-10-16 Thread Lemon Juice

On 2015-10-16 15:17, Ray_Net wrote:


And SM did not maintain my choice, It reset to the last option/language
"fr-reform".
that's why I said Spelling choice is not maintained.

Is this more clear ? :-)
Should I open a mozilla bug for this ?


There is https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1210172 marked as 
invalid - the problem is these changes are intentional and are following 
what is happening in Thunderbird.


I can confirm that dictionary choice has become a real mess in recent SM 
versions, at first I didn't know what was happening because it's not so 
simple that the preference in the Settings is always used for composing 
messages. Well, it is but when we use the browser and set a different 
dictionary in a text field (with the context menu) on a web page then 
the global setting change to that! However, when we change dictionary 
when composing mail then the global setting does not change. The result 
is that the global setting usually gets changed to a dictionary we do 
not want for new mail and we constantly have to go to the settings and 
reset the dictionary to the one we want for mail - until we visit 
another web site where we choose a different dictionary for a text 
field, which messes up our settings again.


I don't think the whole idea of using the general dictionary settings 
instead of recent is better. I agree that the previous behaviour of 
remembering the last used dictionary was much better.


I don't know if filing a new bug will help - I don't know if the devs 
would be willing to maintain different behaviour from Thunderbird. 
However, it wouldn't hurt - with a bug report they will know what users 
want.


Definitely, the current implementation is buggy because changing 
dictionaries in the browser input fields should not affect the global 
settings.



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Re: Fullscreen is disabled for YOUTUBE

2015-10-13 Thread Lemon Juice

On 2015-10-12 16:17, Desiree wrote:

I don't have the preference "full-screen-api.content-only" in SeaMonkey
2.38.


This preference doesn't do anything and if someone has it it's a remnant 
from the discontinued Firefox for Metro (for Windows 8).

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Re: Fullscreen is disabled for YOUTUBE

2015-10-11 Thread Lemon Juice

On 2015-10-11 08:04, Ray_Net wrote:

Paul in Houston, TX wrote on 11/10/2015 00:54:

Ray_Net wrote:

Paul in Houston, TX wrote on 10/10/2015 17:36:

Ray_Net wrote:

Could someone remember me what i can do to be able to view YouTube
video in FullScreen ?

My pc is under Windows 7 pro SP1
My UA is (the default for SM 2.38): Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1;
rv:41.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/41.0 SeaMonkey/2.38


There was a discussion here about this starting on Sep 5.
Search for "Enabling full screen for youtube videos".


My retention policy is 20 days, so they are left ...


Yea, I was hoping it would be longer.
Try this and see if it works:

On 9/5/2015 8:33 PM, Paul Bergsagel wrote:
> To enable full screen for youtube videos type about:cofig in the
address
> bar browser window.
>
> In the widow that appears look for the search box and type "full"
>
> Change these two items from false to true:
>
> full-screen-api.content-only
>
> and
>
> full-screen-api.enabled
>
> Once these two items are changed from false to true you can click on
the
> full screen icon of youtube HTML 5 videos and enter full screen. There
> is no need to force youtube to use flash instead of html 5 video
format.
>
> To exit full screen simply use the ESC key on your keyboard.
>


Should I remove my just installed plugin:

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/true-full-screen-in-seamonkey/


And take your two "config" modifications ?

What is the BEST action ?


The config modification alone will give you full screen support, however 
SeaMonkey will display a small navigation bar at the top of the screen, 
which can be distracting for videos. The extension does hide the bar.

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Re: Support For NPAPI Plugins Ends Next Year

2015-10-11 Thread Lemon Juice

On 2015-10-10 17:55, David E. Ross wrote:

Mozilla is ending support for NPAPI plugins by the end on 2016.

While the number of plugins I have is not as large as the number of
extensions, I consder every one of them important.  They are:
QuickTime
Adobe Acrobat (actually Adobe Reader, not the writer)
RealPlayer
Java

I also have Flash, but that apparently will be an exception to the
removal of NPAPI support.

Does anyone know how these plugins will be affected, specifically in
SeaMonkey?  What are the plugin developers doing about this?


I'm not a SeaMonkey developer but I also wish SM would not get rid of 
plug-in support. The recent trend of all the major browsers extracting 
features in the name of security is troubling. Most ordinary users 
probably don't care about plug-ins but in a company a plug-in is often 
the only way to implement communication between a web application and 
custom software or hardware. For example, I know of a company that has a 
web application which uses a fiscal printer to print receipts - the 
communication is achieved with a java applet. Good luck doing that in html5!


I suppose it's still too early to know what SM devs will do about it - 
but if leaving the plug-in code does not mean any extra work or other 
problems then I think it would be easy to persuade them to leave it as 
it is :). However, I'm afraid even this will not be a good long term 
solution because when all major browsers get rid of NPAPI then no 
company will create plug-ins just for a small browser minority. But I 
hope I will be proved wrong!


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Re: Fullscreen is disabled for YOUTUBE

2015-10-10 Thread Lemon Juice

On 2015-10-10 16:35, Ray_Net wrote:

Could someone remember me what i can do to be able to view YouTube video
in FullScreen ?

My pc is under Windows 7 pro SP1
My UA is (the default for SM 2.38): Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1;
rv:41.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/41.0 SeaMonkey/2.38


https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/true-full-screen-in-seamonkey/
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Re: converter built in?

2015-10-02 Thread Lemon Juice

On 2015-09-08 20:45, Philip Chee wrote:

On 06/09/2015 23:39, Ronnie wrote:

I was wondering if anyone else thinks it may be a good idea to
incorporate the seamonkey addon converter directly into seamonkey itself.



We don't plan to incorporate the seamonkey addon converter directly into
seamonkey itself.

What has been discussed is to add links to the addon converter webpage
using some sort of greasemonkey style script. For example when browsing
addons.mozilla.org we could add a button that offers to convert a
firefox extension.

SeaMonkey developers are a very small team. If there are any
Greasemonkey experts reading this, please help make a PoC (proof of
concept) script.


Just to let everyone know, there is progress with an extension that will 
do just that: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1145026#c36


The plan was to ship the extension with SM so that all users have more 
accurate information about add-on compatibility and also know about the 
converter.

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Re: Enabling full screen for youtube videos

2015-09-09 Thread Lemon Juice

On 2015-09-09 05:09, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

What happened here? I've been playing YouTube videos full screen for
years without difficulty, even after this thread began, but the moment I
upgraded to 2.35 I lost that capability. Has someone filed a bug?


See 
http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=2959175&p=14318267#p14318267


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Re: Moving SM from one PC to another & controlling the install folder

2015-07-02 Thread Lemon Juice

On 2015-07-01 21:15, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

HenriK wrote:


1) I am moving my wife's SM v.2.24 files from an old XP PC to a
newer Win7 PC. What is the best way to do this?

-- Install v.2.24 on the Win7 PC and then copy the old profile
information (mail, bookmarks, etc.) to a CD-R and then paste that
old profile information into the same position on the new PC?


If you go this route, be aware that files copied from a CD are
automatically marked read-only by Windows, which will cause problems
when SM tries to update them (e.g., by downloading mail to the Inbox file).


AFAIK, Windows XP was the last Windows version that did this. When 
copying files from a CD on Win7, files are not marked as read-only any 
more so there's no need to worry about it.

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Re: Contributed Win32 trunk builds - Version Number 2.35

2015-06-18 Thread Lemon Juice

On 2015-06-18 13:44, Rainer Bielefeld wrote:

Hi,

I am a little worried concerning the version numbers if the builds. I
see User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:38.0)
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/38.0 SeaMonkey/2.35
Build 20150616034436

Shouldn't that be a 2.35a0 or similar instead of 2.35, what looks so
"ready"


AFAIK, "a" versions are reserved only for nightlies and aurora. SM 2.35 
is neither and from the development point of view it is ready (I 
suppose) - only held back by lack of official build machines.


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Re: seamonkey obsolete?

2015-06-18 Thread Lemon Juice

On 2015-06-19 01:26, Richard Owlett wrote:


https://validator.w3.org/ reports 6 errors ;/

'nuff said?


Not really. The errors don't mean anything in this case and they have 
nothing to do with SM not working well. The problem with the validator 
is that its results have any meaning only to webmasters and coders. The 
thing is that there are many types of errors the validator can report, 
which are completely harmless. Also, there other types of errors which 
can cause serious breakage. A person who is not skilled in building web 
pages can't tell the difference. What I mean is that the number of 
errors doesn't say anything practical. There could be 1000 errors and 
still no problems with a site working well or there could be 1 error or 
no errors at all and the site could break badly. In this case - the 6 
errors are harmless.


Having said that, the site seems to work well for me. Local storage can 
be turned off so I would suggest looking at browser settings (Offline 
Apps) or trying a new profile.

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Re: Cannot Display Facebook Videoes in Fullscreen using SeaMonkey

2015-06-12 Thread Lemon Juice

On 2015-06-12 13:48, Daniel wrote:

Is it possible that full-screen-api means full browser screen not full
computer screen??
To be precise, full-screen-api is a modern javascript API for entering 
full screen. Full screen meaning full computer screen.


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Re: Cannot Display Facebook Videoes in Fullscreen using SeaMonkey

2015-06-12 Thread Lemon Juice

On 2015-06-09 21:03, EE wrote:

Lemon Juice wrote:

On 2015-06-08 22:01, EE wrote:

Oh.  I thought it was a deficiency in HTML5 that it could not do full
screen.  I have the setting full-screen-api.enabled at false because I
cannot stand web pages changing the size of my browser window
arbitrarily.


This is strange because full-screen-api.enabled should not allow web
pages to resize your browser - it only allows them to enter and leave
full screen but the browser size should remain the same after leaving
full screen.

Allowing browser resizing is controlled via Preferences > Advanced >
Scripts & Plugins > Allow scripts to... Move or resize existing windows.
But this is completely unrelated to full-screen-api.enabled.


Suddenly putting my window into full screen mode does resize the viewing
area.  It takes up the full screen.  I really hate that kind of thing. I
think it is my prerogative to decide what size the window should be, and
whether it should be full-screen or normal, not that of some smart-aleck
who wrote a web page.


Can you provide any URLs of pages that go full screen without user 
intervention? Personally, in recent years I haven't seen such behaviour 
even once - if there is a full screen option on a site it is always 
under some button or icon.


Sometimes I can see web sites that try to resize windows in standard 
ways but this is easily suppressed by the pref I mentioned above. But 
I've never seen full-screen-api abused in this way. I'm not sure, but 
maybe browsers have some protection against it, e.g. user interaction 
(like a click) is required for full-screen-api to work at all?


That's why I'm curious what sites force full screen.

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Re: Cannot Display Facebook Videoes in Fullscreen using SeaMonkey

2015-06-08 Thread Lemon Juice

On 2015-06-08 22:01, EE wrote:

Oh.  I thought it was a deficiency in HTML5 that it could not do full
screen.  I have the setting full-screen-api.enabled at false because I
cannot stand web pages changing the size of my browser window arbitrarily.


This is strange because full-screen-api.enabled should not allow web 
pages to resize your browser - it only allows them to enter and leave 
full screen but the browser size should remain the same after leaving 
full screen.


Allowing browser resizing is controlled via Preferences > Advanced > 
Scripts & Plugins > Allow scripts to... Move or resize existing windows. 
But this is completely unrelated to full-screen-api.enabled.


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Re: Cannot Display Facebook Videoes in Fullscreen using SeaMonkey

2015-06-08 Thread Lemon Juice

On 2015-06-08 05:58, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Lemon Juice wrote:

On 2015-06-08 03:00, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Lemon Juice wrote:

If you don't like the navigation bar, hide it first, then press F11. You
can unhide it after you return from full screen.


Who would go through so much hassle every time when going full screen
and back? Possible but completely user-unfriendly.


Two clicks instead of one! Quick, someone get that guy a hankie!


Each to his own!

BTW, probably forgot that most users don't even know where to click to 
hide/show the bar or if it's possible at all. All they know is the 
rectangle in Youtube's player for toggling full screen (which doesn't 
even appear in SeaMonkey by default unless Flash is used).


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Re: Cannot Display Facebook Videoes in Fullscreen using SeaMonkey

2015-06-07 Thread Lemon Juice

On 2015-06-08 03:00, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Lemon Juice wrote:

If you don't like the navigation bar, hide it first, then press F11. You
can unhide it after you return from full screen.


Who would go through so much hassle every time when going full screen 
and back? Possible but completely user-unfriendly.



And I think it worth noting that since the vast majority of videos are
Flash nowadays (HTML5 could supplant it someday, but not today), the
vast majority of videos can be watched full-screen with no further ado.


HTML5 has already outgrown Flash in popularity. The most popular video 
site is Youtube which serves HTML5 to the most popular browser Chrome 
and to the second most popular browser Firefox, latest IE also gets 
HTML5. It is only legacy browsers that get Flash videos. Facebook is 
also switching to HTML5. Sure, many other sites still offer Flash video 
but we can expect them to switch sooner or later.


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Re: Cannot Display Facebook Videoes in Fullscreen using SeaMonkey

2015-06-07 Thread Lemon Juice

On 2015-06-07 21:27, EE wrote:

Lemon Juice wrote:

It is a known problem that full screen is not fully functional in
SeaMonkey and is disabled by default. You may get away with Flash
videos, because Flash can do full screen on its own.

For the time being this may help:

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/true-full-screen-in-seamonkey/



Huh?  Full screen works fine in SeaMonkey.


No, it doesn't. It only works when invoked manually with F11 or the menu 
and still it has the navigation bar. Full screen videos do not work in 
SeaMonkey's default configuration (apart from Flash videos, because 
Flash can toggle full screen independently from the browser's capabilities).




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Re: Cannot Display Facebook Videoes in Fullscreen using SeaMonkey

2015-06-07 Thread Lemon Juice
It is a known problem that full screen is not fully functional in 
SeaMonkey and is disabled by default. You may get away with Flash 
videos, because Flash can do full screen on its own.


For the time being this may help:

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/true-full-screen-in-seamonkey/
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Re: what Android mail app is used by SeaMonkey mail users?

2015-05-20 Thread Lemon Juice

On 2015-05-20 18:03, Bob Fleischer wrote:

I realize that SeaMonkey mail is not available on Android, but what
Android mail app is preferred by SeaMonkey mail users?


I use Blue Mail, which I find much better than the stock mail app but I 
haven't really tried alternatives because I use mail only occasionally 
on my phone.


However, I don't think that me being a SeaMonkey user has anything to do 
with what I use on my phone. I only stay away from gmail so I don't use 
its app - I really despise gmail service, gmail web mail and even gmail 
IMAP used to be troublesome so I dodn't even bother trying out the gmail 
app.


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Re: Email address in list pane?

2015-05-01 Thread Lemon Juice

On 2015-04-30 19:01, EE wrote:

Is there any extension that will add the email address to the list pane
 From column for SeaMonkey?  It would be much better with an address as
well as a name listed.


You may try this Thunderbird extension:

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/show-address-only/

which works after running through the add-on converter.

One slight inconvenience is that it will not change the Sender column to 
Recipient when you view a Sent folder. In Thunderbird columns visibility 
is chosen per folder but in SM it is global.


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Re: Making Passwords Show Letters ? - Add-on Show Password 1.7 will do the job

2015-04-30 Thread Lemon Juice

On 2015-04-30 16:38, Philip Chee wrote:

On 30/04/2015 19:22, Rainer Bielefeld wrote:

By the way addons.mozilla.org has been known to delete old, broken,
obsolete add-ons on occasion so it might be worthwhile to back these up
somewhere.


I think Rainer's repository at sourceforge is a perfect place for that :)


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Re: Making Passwords Show Letters ? - Add-on Show Password 1.7 will do the job

2015-04-30 Thread Lemon Juice

On 2015-04-30 13:22, Rainer Bielefeld wrote:


Did you already think about changing add-on version or whatever else in
Converter? For use ratings and expecially after a fix for [Bug 1149016]
New: Add-on Compatibility Reporter 2.0.5 does not work with SeaMonkey
 it will be
important to know whether it's the normal add-on version or a converted
one. For my private work I add a tailing ".SM" to the  add-on version in
install.rdf for converted add-ons, what will be visible in add-on-manager.


The idea on mozillazine was for the converter to append something to the 
extension name to make it recognizable. I'll try to get to it soon.


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Re: Making Passwords Show Letters ?

2015-04-30 Thread Lemon Juice

On 2015-04-30 10:39, Rainer Bielefeld wrote:

JAS schrieb:


https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/show-password/ through
the http://addonconverter.fotokraina.com/  and it works fine. You can
toggle it on and off. Works fine for me.



Hi,
can you please tell your Operating System, SeaMonkey version and
Localization, so that I can add oyur result to
?


I don't think the operating system is so important because in 99% of 
cases extensions will work on all systems - unless they contain binary 
components (which can be quickly seen by glancing at the xpi contents) 
or are otherwise targeted at specific systems. Of course, testing on all 
systems is necessary for 100% certainty. Do you gather compatibility 
info for all systems?


BTW, isn't that a mistake on the wiki page:

"2013-04-15 Results for SeaMonkey 2.33 and later, with detailed comments 
for SeaMonkey Add-on converter"


In 2013 there was no SeaMonkey 2.33, they year appears to be slightly off :)
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Re: Making Passwords Show Letters ?

2015-04-28 Thread Lemon Juice

On 2015-04-28 08:24, DoctorBill wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:

I had NO IDEA that this one post would generate such a plethora of
JARGON and "technical speak" that is completely unintelligible to laymen
like myself.

The crosstalk is interesting and amusing.

Thank all of you for trying to help.

Many replies were so far out there that I got lost after the first three
words.   lol

Make one feel like a caveman in a Cosmology Seminar.  No offense intended.


But did you actually find the solution you were looking for? :)
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Re: Seamonkey still crashes when compacting IMAP folders

2015-04-26 Thread Lemon Juice

On 2015-04-26 20:10, Mason83 wrote:

On 26/04/2015 18:56, Lemon Juice wrote:

On 2015-04-26 10:01, Mason83 wrote:

On 26/04/2015 09:49, Mason83 wrote:


For a long time (going back at least 9 months to SM 2.29)
Seamonkey crashes when compacting IMAP folders.

Earlier reports:

Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2014 18:21:56 +0100
Subject: SM 2.31 still crashing when compacting IMAP folders
Message-ID: 

Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2014 10:21:29 +0200
Subject: SM 2.29.1 crashes when compating some IMAP folders
Message-ID: 

Are you aware of an open bug?
(I'll open one, please dup if necessary.)

Not only is this a crasher, but it leaves the mailbox in
a corrupt state.

Could it be Seamonkey only? Or is Thunderbird also affected?


Might be related to Bug 1066998
Email compact folders skews titles from bodies in list, mismatch (crashes 
reported)
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1066998

Although my crash signature is different.


If you are not sure if your crash has the same origin as bug 1066998
then try the workaround for compacting folders as presented at the top
of that bug page - if it works for you then most probably it's the same.
I suspect there may be multiple crash signatures possible here.

It looks like the bug is too obscure/difficult for the developers to
deal with at the moment. But reading from bug 1066998 this should be
automatically fixed when Thunderbird 38 is released with the new cache
system, which apparently is to blame for these crashes. This would
translate to SeaMonkey 2.35.


In about:config, I saw browser.cache.use_new_backend
which comes with the following comment:

Preference for switching the cache backend, can be changed
freely at runtime
0 - use the old (Darin's) cache
1 - use the new cache back-end (cache v2)

The default is 0, and I set it to 1.

I was then able to compact my 8 IMAP accounts without crashing.

BTW, how is Thunderbird 38 going to fix the problem?
By switching to the new cache back-end?


Yes. But this is my guess only, one of the developers would need to 
confirm if that is really going to fix the problem for SeaMonkey.



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Re: change disk location of SM 2.33

2015-04-26 Thread Lemon Juice

On 2015-04-25 14:38, Rick Merrill wrote:

How can I change the disk location of seamonkey email on the disk drive?

I would like to put it under the Dropbox folder to be able to run from
different computers.  Is this even feasible?


I think you are looking for this:

http://portableapps.com/apps/internet/seamonkey_portable

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Re: Seamonkey still crashes when compacting IMAP folders

2015-04-26 Thread Lemon Juice

On 2015-04-26 10:01, Mason83 wrote:

On 26/04/2015 09:49, Mason83 wrote:


For a long time (going back at least 9 months to SM 2.29)
Seamonkey crashes when compacting IMAP folders.

Earlier reports:

   Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2014 18:21:56 +0100
   Subject: SM 2.31 still crashing when compacting IMAP folders
   Message-ID: 

   Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2014 10:21:29 +0200
   Subject: SM 2.29.1 crashes when compating some IMAP folders
   Message-ID: 

Are you aware of an open bug?
(I'll open one, please dup if necessary.)

Not only is this a crasher, but it leaves the mailbox in
a corrupt state.

Could it be Seamonkey only? Or is Thunderbird also affected?


Might be related to Bug 1066998
Email compact folders skews titles from bodies in list, mismatch (crashes 
reported)
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1066998

Although my crash signature is different.


If you are not sure if your crash has the same origin as bug 1066998 
then try the workaround for compacting folders as presented at the top 
of that bug page - if it works for you then most probably it's the same. 
I suspect there may be multiple crash signatures possible here.


It looks like the bug is too obscure/difficult for the developers to 
deal with at the moment. But reading from bug 1066998 this should be 
automatically fixed when Thunderbird 38 is released with the new cache 
system, which apparently is to blame for these crashes. This would 
translate to SeaMonkey 2.35.

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Re: Making Passwords Show Letters ?

2015-04-25 Thread Lemon Juice

On 2015-04-26 03:00, DoctorBill wrote:


I'm not sure of all the Jargon, so I have to ask
How do I use this link
http://addonconverter.fotokraina.com/?url=https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/unhide-passwords/


Both will work -


Convert and Install (Convert?  Beyond my intelligence level)


The extension will be converted and you will be offered installation 
without any questions asked.



Convert and View Details (I would know what I am viewing).


After conversion you will be able to see conversion details - generally 
programmer stuff what code has changed, something you may or may not 
understand, but there will also be a link for installation.





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Re: Making Passwords Show Letters ?

2015-04-25 Thread Lemon Juice

On 2015-04-25 23:24, DoctorBill wrote:

Most all Username / Password entry boxes only show the Asterisk (*) when
one enters the password.

Is there something in SeaMonkey that one can toggle so that one sees
what one is actually entering ?

I tuype so prly thet I meed tyu sea what I hab enterd.

DoktoeVill


Extension *Unhide Passwords* is on the list of working Firefox 
extensions after conversion (it is almost at the top of the list):


http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=2834855
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Re: SeaMonkey add-on-compatibility

2015-04-19 Thread Lemon Juice
There is an error in the wiki in the "Converted Version Compatible" 
section - the first item says "Adblock Plus 2.6.8" but actually should 
be "Adblock Plus Pop-up Addon 0.9.2". The convert link is correct, 
though. Adblock Plus does not need conversion for SeaMonkey :)


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Re: SeaMonkey a first class citizen of LXLE OS

2015-04-11 Thread Lemon Juice

On 2015-04-11 04:35, Ronnie wrote:

Sorry Lemon Juice, you reply was the most comprehensive of the day. The
reply was to this thread/post/email in general. It has been an entire
day of rebuttals on every little thing that was done. This isn't
necessarily directed right at you. I should have pointed that out in the
reply. My apologies

There are a couple things I will and want to change and a number of your
points were something to consider from a users stand point. SeaMonkey by
default looks like its straight from 1996 and thats a problem since that
is about 20 years ago. Trying to remedy some of the issues isn't
flawless but as you stated and I agree this is the first
attempt/implementation of it in LXLE. Improvements and adjustments will
be needed and added in future versions.


Okay, no problem. Because of the dated look SeaMonkey is attracting a 
minority of users who happen to like the dated look and are opposed to 
making it different so I think this is why people here are not 
enthusiastic about these changes. We are the minority here, we are the 
dinosaurs! So I think you shouldn't base your direction or assessment of 
your version of SM based on opinions here because your audience is very 
much different from audience here. As I said I am pleased that you are 
promoting SeaMonkey and I think it can grow while providing different 
customizable interfaces to different people based on what they want.


Personally, I like the current SM interface and while I agree it looks 
dated for me the major problem is the outer looks only, which can be 
easily addressed with a theme. I know the current trend for making 
modern interfaces is hiding stuff behind icons, removing them from the 
main view or removing altogether in order to squeeze any piece of real 
screen estate. And that's fine. But what I find most productive is a 
traditional menu where I can easily find any option I want with the 
added ability to place icons for the most frequently used ones. Yes, I 
am a dinosaur myself!


As to LXLE - I stumbled upon one more problem, which is about the single 
button for stop and reload. I navigated to a youtube page and started 
watching a video, then in another tab did something different and chose 
youtube options to use the html5 player. I got back to the video tab and 
wasn't able to reload the page because apparently the page never 
finished loading and all I got was the spinning circle on the button and 
it didn't change to the reload icon no matter how I tried. This wouldn't 
be a problem if I had a separate reload button.


This could be hard to get right because as far as I remember SM has 
always displayed this behaviour in certain circumstances - I don't know 
exactly what conditions must be met for this to occur but possibly a 
specific combination of scripts and network contention. SM seems to be 
loading the page forever, the throbber spins all the time even though 
nothing appears to be loading any more and pressing stop doesn't stop 
it. This could be related to a bug that can occur in Mail, too - when 
there is a connection problem to a mail server it is not possible to 
stop it before it times out by itself. So there is an underlying problem 
causing the combined stop & reload to fail sometimes. The best solution 
would be to fix this bug in SM but if that's hard then I think it would 
also be possible to use an extension so that it will change the button 
to reload on pressing, even if technically SM still is loading something 
behind the scenes - I think a user style might be not enough for this.

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Re: SeaMonkey a first class citizen of LXLE OS

2015-04-10 Thread Lemon Juice

On 2015-04-11 03:48, Ronnie wrote:

Ronnie wrote:

Lemon Juice wrote:

1. Trying to enable the bookmarks toolbar results in an empty toolbar
that doesn't seem to work - no bookmarks show up and no way to add
anything there.

The bookmarktoolbar is not broken. The bar appears but the
bookmarktoolbar button located in the customization option simply need
to be moved back to the bar. It was removed before the bookmarktoolbar
button takes care of that. Anyone able to customize the interface will
be sure to look there.


I forgot to add menu. In otherwords, the bookmarktoolbar button located
in the 'customize' area was removed because the bookmarktoolbar menu
replaces it.

Both bars are totally empty for a reason. The navigation toolbar is
empty because all the stuff there by default was moved to the titlebar.
The bookmarktoolbar area was cleared out because when loaded with the
exact same things that the bookmarktoolbar menu provides it actually
ticks up memory use of the browser. Considering the number of addons and
userstyles used any memory savings was something I wanted to achieve.

You can add bookmarks and bookmarklets to the bookmarktoolbar menu in
the same manner as the regular bookmarktoolbar just drag and drop.


Yes, I understand the reasoning behind it and most of the shifts and 
moves of items between the toolbars and why it ended up the way it is 
but it was not what I meant. I didn't point out the 'problem' because I 
want or need help or support from you how to deal with it. I pretended I 
am a new ordinary user who plays with your SeaMonkey - well, maybe a 
little bit more curious than ordinary, and I'm trying out what I can do 
in this browser, clicking on different elements and choosing options 
trying to discover what they do. And from this perspective I am a bit 
baffled at finding options to show a bookmarks toolbar and a navigation 
toolbar and the only thing they do is show some empty space.


I may understand why it is the way it is (being a developer myself) but 
perhaps a different user will not. I think that when a feature is 
removed then it would also be good to remove UI menus that lead to it - 
otherwise there is a feeling that something is broken. These are little 
things here and there and I don't know how important it is to deal with 
them - you will be able to judge better.


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Re: SeaMonkey a first class citizen of LXLE OS

2015-04-10 Thread Lemon Juice

On 2015-04-11 03:02, Ronnie wrote:

As for the rest I would like to provide a few
rebuttals.


[...]


As a final note, if I'm going to have to explain or justify each and
every decision made when trying to use SeaMonkey as the default browser
in a distribution that has a substantial amount of users and put it back
in the limelight, then maybe I should reconsider that decision as well.
To be perfectly frank, outside old school technically inclined users
(which i am as well) the browser doesn't get used by default because of
its dated look and lack of features. Midori and Qupzilla get more play
and its simply because they look modern. Sure they don't have the
plugins yet but that doesn't matter, they are still adopted more often
than Seamonkey. Palemoon is also getting substantial users because of
the same reason, in fact even more so because more plugins are supported
than SeaMonkey. I wanted to boost SeaMonkey interest and give it a
platform to be showcased. I did plenty of research about most people
gripes about the browser. Whether superficial or not, looks, and some
relatively mundain features that were missing was the biggest gripes. It
certainly seems like I'm making an effort, including bringing developers
back to the suite, actually paying them as well for their work and
giving what I think is the best possible chance to stay on the machine
after install. If this is not the goal of the users here for their
beloved browser, then next release the effort won't be made.

I simply don't need all the grief, if you don't like they way I did it
for the distribution. Then don't use the distribution. As far as I'm
aware no other distribution even close to our popularity has even
attempted to give it any thought. Here I thought I was doing something
relatively noble. Apparently that is not something endeared here on the
SeaMonkey mailing list. Constructive criticism is one thing. Battling 8
or more different users on here over every little decision is a level of
pretentiousness I haven't encountered in a long time. I would have
thought that perhaps some excitement was in order, apparently not.


I'm sorry but I think you greatly misunderstood my posts. I didn't 
intend to make you come up with any rebuttals or justifications for your 
choices and why would you want to battle me (or anyone?). I thought I 
could provide some constructive criticism regarding a few technical 
problems I have encountered. I asked you not to take my previous post 
negatively just because I have found a few problems. It is up to you 
what you do with it and my posting was not about whether I like it or 
not or if I will use your distribution with SM - most probably I will 
not because I'm not even a Linux user. I only became interested in your 
version of SeaMonkey and thought you might appreciate my observations 
because maybe you overlooked some of the glitches or whatever, or we 
might even help you with some of them. I don't know what you consider 
constructive criticism but if you don't want me (or us) testing your 
product and getting back to you with feedback then I don't really have 
to do this. And I am not arguing with the appropriateness of your 
decisions about the features intended for your audience but I may 
sometimes express my preference because it's impossible not to stay 
subjective.


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Re: SeaMonkey a first class citizen of LXLE OS

2015-04-10 Thread Lemon Juice

On 2015-04-11 02:16, Lemon Juice wrote:


4. When in full screen mode a user style hides the top elements, which
is fine, however when I move the mouse to the top, the location bar
shows up but does not go away when I move the mouse away - I have to
toggle full screen off and on again to hide it. Also, the tabs don't
show when I move to the top - how do I switch tabs? Oh, there are tabs
when I move the mouse to the bottom of the screen! It's nice but very
difficult to figure out this hidden and inconsistent behaviour.


One more thing regarding full screen - normally, I can exit full screen 
with the mouse by clicking the restore icon (in the top right corner, at 
least in Windows). In your SeaMonkey it's not possible because the icon 
for controlling the window is hidden - probably a side effect of Tiny 
Menu. In Firefox the window controls appear along with the location bar 
when moving the mouse to the top. In LXLE the only way is to press F11.


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Re: SeaMonkey a first class citizen of LXLE OS

2015-04-10 Thread Lemon Juice

On 2015-04-10 21:43, Ronnie wrote:

well lxle linux is a live cd, meaning it can be tested without being
installed.

Without actually using/testing the browser, judging the modifications is
a bit difficult.

Those are the ones I decided on for the distribution. In no way will
they probably ever make it into SeaMonkey itself. So everyone can rest easy.


I actually used it in a virtual machine. The good thing was that the 
installation was very quick and easy and everything worked out of the box.


My impression regarding SeaMonkey was just what I expected from the 
screenshots because most of the interface customizations are known from 
other browsers and these make SM look and feel a bit more like Firefox 
but of course there are differences. One more thing I didn't like were 
the hidden scrollbars - for me hunting with the mouse for invisible 
scrollbars is not fun at all and before I was able to get my scroll 
wheel to work in VirtualBox I was really lost.


But I'd like to say something different than my likes and dislikes 
because this stuff will always be subjective. What I found was that the 
customized SM was a little bit "disjointed", meaning that different 
extensions and user styles were put together and they don't always seem 
to cooperate well with one another or cause other unwanted glitches in 
the UI:


1. Trying to enable the bookmarks toolbar results in an empty toolbar 
that doesn't seem to work - no bookmarks show up and no way to add 
anything there.


2. There is also an option to add Navigation Toolbar, which adds a 
half-toolbar high horizontal empty space under the location bar - weird 
and apparently has no use.


3. I tried to enable the main top menu bar (I suppose some users might 
want this kind of customization) - there is no UI option for that, I 
have to disable the Tiny Menu extension and further tinker with the 
toolbars to get it back to the top. Pretty difficult to do.


4. When in full screen mode a user style hides the top elements, which 
is fine, however when I move the mouse to the top, the location bar 
shows up but does not go away when I move the mouse away - I have to 
toggle full screen off and on again to hide it. Also, the tabs don't 
show when I move to the top - how do I switch tabs? Oh, there are tabs 
when I move the mouse to the bottom of the screen! It's nice but very 
difficult to figure out this hidden and inconsistent behaviour.


5. There is an installed (but disabled) user style "SeaMonkey Tabs on 
Top". When I enabled it then in full screen I was not able to see the 
tabs at all - even at the bottom of the screen.


BTW, not long ago I made an extension 
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/true-full-screen-in-seamonkey/ 
but it appears to be in conflict with Tiny Menu and there are problems 
with auto-hide - just like there is a conflict with the full screen user 
style you have bundled.


Although, I listed the problems I have noticed please don't take my post 
negatively - I understand this is your first built-in SM release and 
getting all the pieces to work nicely together is not an easy task and 
requires a lot of work. Ideally, you (or other people) would write 
customized extensions specifically for your distribution so that they 
work without glitches - possibly even creating modified versions of 
existing extensions should be enough to get rid of most of the problems. 
(Tiny Menu is an ancient extension and also made for Firefox-only so 
it's no surprise it causes problems...)


As I see it for a person who happens to like the interface out of the 
box this works well enough. But if someone wants to customize it and 
make it different then problems start appearing. Interestingly, one can 
switch to another profile and have vanilla SeaMonkey without any add-ons!


Anyway, I'm happy to see that you have incorporated SeaMonkey into your 
distribution!


BTW, I'm wondering why SM is called "Mozilla Build of Seamonkey"? If I 
were a novice user wanting to go to the internet I think this title 
would scare me a little :).

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Re: SeaMonkey a first class citizen of LXLE OS

2015-04-07 Thread Lemon Juice

On 2015-04-06 06:47, Ronnie wrote:

Today we announced the release of LXLE Linux featuring SeaMonkey. We
hope to give development and interest in the suite a boost and to help
drive it forward into the future through technical and monetary support.

Thank you SeaMonkey developers and users for forging on and delivering a
truly remarkable suite that suits our lightweight system perfectly.

This is not a promotion of LXLE it's a thank you email and hopefully an
opportunity for SeaMonkey to shine and shine bright.

Release Notes can be read here and be sure to see our SeaMonkey memory
footprint comparison screenshots located below the distribution images.

http://www.lxle.net/articles/?post=lxle-14042-12045-released

~Ronnie



Fantastic! I'm certain we will all benefit by your move of bundling 
SeaMonkey with LXLE.

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Re: flashblock for SM 2.26.1 ??

2015-03-31 Thread Lemon Juice

On 2015-03-31 00:14, EE wrote:

Lemon Juice wrote:

On 2015-03-29 21:20, EE wrote:

Can you not send your patched version to Mozdev?  That is where version
1.3.21 is.
http://downloads.mozdev.org/flashblock/


Philip (the author) already has already made a patched version for
Firefox so I don't think it makes sense for me to send it there because
he already has it - I asked him to release it here:
http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=2916773&p=14094203#p14094203




But Philip's version completely blocked Silverlight and the 360-spin
Quicktime images as well.


No problem for me with converted Flashblock 1.5.19a in SM 2.33.1. 
Silverlight plays fine. I don't have Quicktime installed but I get the 
message that additional plugins are necessary to display the page - 
which means that Quicktime is not blocked. If it was blocked then there 
would be just blank space and no info about missing plug-ins - that is 
how earlier versions of Flashblock behave in newest SM versions.

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Re: flashblock for SM 2.26.1 ??

2015-03-31 Thread Lemon Juice

On 2015-03-31 00:14, EE wrote:

Lemon Juice wrote:

On 2015-03-29 21:20, EE wrote:

Can you not send your patched version to Mozdev?  That is where version
1.3.21 is.
http://downloads.mozdev.org/flashblock/


Philip (the author) already has already made a patched version for
Firefox so I don't think it makes sense for me to send it there because
he already has it - I asked him to release it here:
http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=2916773&p=14094203#p14094203




But Philip's version completely blocked Silverlight and the 360-spin
Quicktime images as well.


No problem for me with converted Flashblock 1.5.19a in SM 2.33.1. 
Silverlight plays fine. I don't have Quicktime installed but I get the 
message that additional plugins are necessary to display the page - 
which means that Quicktime is not blocked. If it was blocked then there 
would be just blank space and so info about missing plug-ins - that is 
how earlier versions of Flashblock behave in newest SM versions.


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Re: Another flash block question, SM 2.26.1

2015-03-29 Thread Lemon Juice

On 2015-03-30 01:40, Paul in Houston, TX wrote:

Is another flash block needed when there is already one built into SM?


It's not needed if the built-in one does what you need. Flash block 
extensions may have other features like site white-listing or blocking 
html5 video.

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Re: flashblock for SM 2.26.1 ??

2015-03-29 Thread Lemon Juice

On 2015-03-29 21:20, EE wrote:

Lemon Juice wrote:

On 2015-03-28 19:11, EE wrote:

Paul in Houston, TX wrote:

Is there a SM flash block that allows selective turn on similar to FF
flashblock plugin?  Which do you recommend?


There is a version which had to be patched 3 times in order to work
properly.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/13230070/flashblock1.3.21mod2.xpi


Yeah, it's me who did the mod because Flashblock blocked too much in SM
2.31 and later:
http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=2896337 - however,
for SM 2.26.1 the regular flashblock 1.3.21 or 1.3.20 will work. Here is
the download link for 1.3.21: http://downloads.mozdev.org/flashblock/

For SM 2.31 and up there is still no official fixed flashblock so the
above modded version is necessary. Alternatively, there is an updated
1.5.19a1 Firefox version, which apparently contains the necessary fixes
- it should work fine in SeaMonkey after running through the converter.


Can you not send your patched version to Mozdev?  That is where version
1.3.21 is.
http://downloads.mozdev.org/flashblock/


Philip (the author) already has already made a patched version for 
Firefox so I don't think it makes sense for me to send it there because 
he already has it - I asked him to release it here: 
http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=2916773&p=14094203#p14094203


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Re: flashblock for SM 2.26.1 ??

2015-03-28 Thread Lemon Juice

On 2015-03-28 19:11, EE wrote:

Paul in Houston, TX wrote:

Is there a SM flash block that allows selective turn on similar to FF
flashblock plugin?  Which do you recommend?


There is a version which had to be patched 3 times in order to work
properly.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/13230070/flashblock1.3.21mod2.xpi


Yeah, it's me who did the mod because Flashblock blocked too much in SM 
2.31 and later: 
http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=2896337 - however, 
for SM 2.26.1 the regular flashblock 1.3.21 or 1.3.20 will work. Here is 
the download link for 1.3.21: http://downloads.mozdev.org/flashblock/


For SM 2.31 and up there is still no official fixed flashblock so the 
above modded version is necessary. Alternatively, there is an updated 
1.5.19a1 Firefox version, which apparently contains the necessary fixes 
- it should work fine in SeaMonkey after running through the converter.


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Re: Q: Can I open weblinks from e-mails with another browser than seamonkey?

2015-03-08 Thread Lemon Juice

On 2015-03-08 16:57, Arnie Goetchius wrote:

Frosted Flake wrote:

Lemon Juice wrote:

On 2015-03-08 03:48, Frosted Flake wrote:

Lemon Juice wrote:

On 2015-03-07 17:19, Uwe R. Kunzmann wrote:

Hi there,

i am using seamonkey as my mail client. It's much more stable than
thunderbird :-)
The only question I have: Is it possible to open web-links from an
incoming e-mail with another browser than seamokey by klicking this
link? It's not nice to copy the link all times and paste it to
firefox.
The reason for that question is, that seamonkey's web browser does not
support all sites i have to proceed...

Thanks!



https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/standalone-seamonkey-mail/




:)

Not compatible with SeaMonkey 2.32.1 - will not install



Of course, it is compatible with 2.32.1. It is compatible with SM 2.19
up to 2.34.

It installed this time.  I don't know why it told me that yesterday.



Same here!!


This is strange - maybe the Mozilla add-ons site had some temporary 
problems yesterday? Glad it's working eventually!


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Re: Q: Can I open weblinks from e-mails with another browser than seamonkey?

2015-03-08 Thread Lemon Juice

On 2015-03-08 03:48, Frosted Flake wrote:

Lemon Juice wrote:

On 2015-03-07 17:19, Uwe R. Kunzmann wrote:

Hi there,

i am using seamonkey as my mail client. It's much more stable than
thunderbird :-)
The only question I have: Is it possible to open web-links from an
incoming e-mail with another browser than seamokey by klicking this
link? It's not nice to copy the link all times and paste it to firefox.
The reason for that question is, that seamonkey's web browser does not
support all sites i have to proceed...

Thanks!



https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/standalone-seamonkey-mail/


:)

Not compatible with SeaMonkey 2.32.1 - will not install



Of course, it is compatible with 2.32.1. It is compatible with SM 2.19 
up to 2.34.

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Re: Q: Can I open weblinks from e-mails with another browser than seamonkey?

2015-03-07 Thread Lemon Juice

On 2015-03-07 17:19, Uwe R. Kunzmann wrote:

Hi there,

i am using seamonkey as my mail client. It's much more stable than thunderbird 
:-)
The only question I have: Is it possible to open web-links from an incoming 
e-mail with another browser than seamokey by klicking this link? It's not nice 
to copy the link all times and paste it to firefox.
The reason for that question is, that seamonkey's web browser does not support 
all sites i have to proceed...

Thanks!



https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/standalone-seamonkey-mail/

:)
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Re: Clicking On Full Screen Button Has No Affect For this Page

2015-03-02 Thread Lemon Juice

On 2015-02-28 16:10, Arnie Goetchius wrote:

Currently, you can make it work with this extension:

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/true-full-screen-in-seamonkey/

It's the same issue as playing HTML5 videos full screen: 
http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=2914655

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