Re: Cleaning up an ancient prefs.js

[M Gordon]

Richard Owlett wrote:

M Gordon wrote:

Richard Owlett wrote:

Richard Owlett wrote:

I go back to the Netscape 4.? days.
Over the years I have done many tweaks to prefs.js and
user.js. Some were so I could locally duplicate things I had
set up for two visually impaired users - neither no longer
local. There are also unknown modifications done for
forgotten reasons.

As you might imagine some sites do not display well ;/
I want to preserve everything email or USENET related and
all my browser bookmarks.
Where should I be looking for reading material?
Thank you.



I just caught spelling error in subject line.
Would it be worthwhile to submit a wishlist bug to have
spell checker
work on subject line?




Richard,

Have you taken a look at MozBackup?


No as I had not heard of it - everything Mozilla always worked so well I
never had to worry.
I just Googled and brought up the relevant pages - looks nice.
P.S. - I've regularly told OTHER people to do backups ;/



With this little progam you can select which parts of the
profile to backup, save the backup file.

Then, un-install all current versions of SeaMonkey, and all
remaining files and folders left behind. (Hint; just for
safety don't remove the profile folders, just rename them to
something else like profileOLD)

Once SeaMonkey is totally removed install a fresh copy of
the latest version you want, after install is complete, up
and running, and tested for your needs, close SeaMonkey
completely and run MozBackup to recover the saved profile.
When the saved profile is complete open SeaMonkey and select
Change Profile, select the saved profile that has been
backed up. Be sure you check the box to use the new profile
at start-up.

Michael G


Now to read instructions first ;)
Thank you!



You are very welcome.

Don't do as I do.  If at first you don't succeed read the instructions. 
(LOL)


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Re: Cleaning up an ancient prefs.js

[M Gordon]

Richard Owlett wrote:

Richard Owlett wrote:

I go back to the Netscape 4.? days.
Over the years I have done many tweaks to prefs.js and
user.js. Some were so I could locally duplicate things I had
set up for two visually impaired users - neither no longer
local. There are also unknown modifications done for
forgotten reasons.

As you might imagine some sites do not display well ;/
I want to preserve everything email or USENET related and
all my browser bookmarks.
Where should I be looking for reading material?
Thank you.



I just caught spelling error in subject line.
Would it be worthwhile to submit a wishlist bug to have spell checker
work on subject line?




Richard,

Have you taken a look at MozBackup?

With this little progam you can select which parts of the profile to 
backup, save the backup file.


Then, un-install all current versions of SeaMonkey, and all remaining 
files and folders left behind.  (Hint; just for safety don't remove the 
profile folders, just rename them to something else like profileOLD)


Once SeaMonkey is totally removed install a fresh copy of the latest 
version you want, after install is complete, up and running, and tested 
for your needs, close SeaMonkey completely and run MozBackup to recover 
the saved profile.
When the saved profile is complete open SeaMonkey and select Change 
Profile, select the saved profile that has been backed up.  Be sure you 
check the box to use the new profile at start-up.


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Re: Anyone other frequent posters having e-mail spoofing issues?

[M Gordon]

hawker wrote:

I'm having a serious issue with my e-mail address being spoofed.
I'm not sending the e-mails but they are using my return address so I
get all the bounces.
The only publicly viewable (harvistable?) form I can think of that I
post on with this e-mail address is this one.
So I'm wondering if others are having this issue. In hindsight I should
use a trash e-mail address but I think the damage is done and it is too
late. It has been 2 months of a couple hundred bounces a day and is
getting old fast.

Hawker


Not for a very long time (Knocking on desktop).  Looking at my return 
address you will see a real live mail address.  The folks managing this 
form have somehow gotten rid of the ,ail harvesters (RidEx maybe).


Your e-mail address can be harvested from many sources and hten sold to 
the SPAM senders on a CD.  Some of the more likely resources for 
harvesting are:

Your own e-mail server.
Your own web site where you listed your e-mail address and not hiddent 
it from Spambots.
A mel form where your mail address is behind the viewable page, and not 
reserved on the web server.

Any web site form where you have to enter a valid e-mail address.

How to get rid if it?  Its too late now.

How to prevent it for the future (May take a year or more from today). 
Create a junk mail account on your current server, Gmail.com, or any 
free mail server.  Use that address for any time you have to use a real 
e-mail address.  This one is easy to trash all unwanted messages. 
Later, for wanted messages go to the original web site and update your 
e-mail address to your preferred address.


If you have a web site your e-mail address must be hidden from the 
Spambots with a "script".


If your web site has a contact form your e-mail address must be 
contained within the script on the server, and the server directory must 
have access permissions set to only allow you to write and your web page 
script to send data to the server.


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Re: Insert Image, SM v2.0

[M Gordon]

LnrB wrote:

Geoff Welsh wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
> LnrB wrote:
>> M Gordon wrote:
>>> LnrB wrote:
>>> > Has this function been broken? I realize it's not an
up-to-the-minute
>>> > version, but it has other things I want/need besides the ability to
>>> > insert images in news posts.
>>> >
>>> > The image doesn't make it out of compose. When I look at from
Sent, it
>>> > seems to read off my own drive.
>>> >
>>> > Is this a known problem or am I doing something wrong?
>>> > (';')
>>> Lnr,
>>>
>>> Try creating an account for PSP X-4, and when you set the account
up be
>>> sure it is set for HTML messaging. Otherwise when you send images
>>> inline you will have to press the Shift Key and click Compose. Be
sure
>>> to add the newsgroup address to your address book and select HTML
as the
>>> preferred messaging. You may have to open preferences for Mail to
Send
>>> Format and add the domain for the newsgroup into the HTML column.
>>> Michael G
>> Thank you, Michael,
>> I usually set everything to compose in HTML by default. Newsgroup
posts
>> always recommend plain text and I have to specifically tell it to send
>> HTML.
>>
>> I'll go over the prefs *again* to see if I missed something.
>> (';')
>
> Edit | Mail& Newsgroups | Send Format
>
> In addition to the general prefs at the top of the dialog, you can
add a
> domain to the HTML or plain-text list at bottom so SeaMonkey will honor
> that preference.
>
>
thus revealing that deep down...SM knows it's wrong to send HTML
messages...lol

Good find PBG!
GW

Yabut if I wanted to only send plain text I'd use Thunderbird.
(';')


Right On, Lnr!!!

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Re: Insert Image, SM v2.0

[M Gordon]

LnrB wrote:

Has this function been broken? I realize it's not an up-to-the-minute
version, but it has other things I want/need besides the ability to
insert images in news posts.

The image doesn't make it out of compose. When I look at from Sent, it
seems to read off my own drive.

Is this a known problem or am I doing something wrong?
(';')

Lnr,

Try creating an account for PSP X-4, and when you set the account up be 
sure it is set for HTML messaging.  Otherwise when you send images 
inline you will have to press the Shift Key and click Compose.  Be sure 
to add the newsgroup address to your address book and select HTML as the 
preferred messaging.  You may have to open preferences for Mail to Send 
Format and add the domain for the newsgroup into the HTML column.

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Re: Smilies

[M Gordon]

David E. Ross wrote:

On 4/28/13 8:14 PM, F Murtz wrote:

With Seamonkey, when using newsgroups if I put an ascii smiley ihe
receiver gets a picture smiley, where does seamonkey hide this smiley
and can I (and how to make and replace) it with a bigger one? or
animated one?



Actually, the simley image is generated by the recipient's application.
  If your recipient would look at the message source as received, the
ASCII smiley would be there.  In the case of newsgroups, you should
select [View>  Message Source] from the menu bar.  You will see only the
ASCII smiley.

If you go to [View>  Zoom], you can select or deselect Zoom Text Only.
Deselected, zooming will make the smiley image larger or smaller as the
text is also zoomed.



Sorry, David.

I thought the poster was referring to the Smileys that used to be with 
Mozilla based e-mail.  They are ASCII characters converted to graphic 
icons.  They are not accessible to the user, just from the HTML editor.


When a user receives a HTML message he sees the graphical icon, but when 
he only reads ASCII mail he sees only the ASCII characters that 
represent the icon.


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Re: Smilies

[M Gordon]

F Murtz wrote:

With Seamonkey, when using newsgroups if I put an ascii smiley ihe
receiver gets a picture smiley, where does seamonkey hide this smiley
and can I (and how to make and replace) it with a bigger one? or
animated one?


To the best of my knowledge the smileys in SM are proprietary to 
SeaMonkey/Mozilla/Netscape, and are hidden inside the applications.


When you insert a SM smiley only people using a modern version of SM can 
translate the ASCII symbols to a graphical smiley.



A few years ago there was a smiley application that would integrate with 
the Netscape Communicator e-mail suite and insert a hyperlink to the 
smiley image hosted on a third party server.  This only worked 
successfully in HTML mail.


You can create your own smiley graphics and insert them into any HTML 
message, but most newsgroups frown on HTML.


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Re: Works in FF not Seamonkey?

[M Gordon]

hawker wrote:

I am told this page works in Fire Fox, but I get a blank page in
SeaMonkey. I get further in IE8 than Seamonkey but still does not work.
I don't have FF installed.

Anybody got any idea what the issue is? I tried disabling Adblock but no
luck.

https://www.facebook.com/Moogfest/app_153124801522909


Moogfest opened fine with a feedback image.  Maybe they were ypdating 
hteir page when you tried.


Michael G
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Re: SM2.17 Composer Can Not Delete Table Rows or Cells

[M Gordon]

John Bessa wrote:

"Composer ought to be shot in the head"  says Ed.  That is opinion not
fact, fact for me is that it is the only wysiwyg I use because the rest are
worse -- part of the issue is the death of  at the hands of  (which
has been revived by Google in mail and)  so all wysiwygs should be shot
in the head except composer which uses both.

After a half decade of frustration in MS Word that spread to other editors,
I finally figured out what the problem was and then utilized TinyMCE (which
has other problems) and Composer which as few problems that cannot be fixed
by removing an unnecessary facility such as search or spell check -- same
problems exist for other editors.

I am loathe to argue with sone like you, Ed, because, from experience, MY
OPINION changes to say wanting to do to you as you want to do to others,
which in this case would be a shot to the head; I am a pacifist, but then
if the world... well you get my point.

In short, if  is a text block then it should be replaced by a multiline
  which can include BRs for address or custom bullets.  Far over your
head, Ed, so pleas "take a powder" if you will.


On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 9:42 PM, Ed Mullen  wrote:


Ray_Net wrote:


Ed Mullen wrote, On 19/04/2013 02:47:


Ray_Net wrote:


Philip TAYLOR wrote, On 18/04/2013 20:22:



M Gordon wrote:

  It would certainly stop a lot of complaints and problems after a user

downloads and installs the latest version of SM, only to find out
1/3 of
the application is broke.


That same 1/3 is used in the e-mail client when composing
in HTML, and the e-mail client suffers from the same bug :
it is not possible to delete a row of a table in 2.17.1.

Philip Taylor


Who's care ? :-)

Due to the constant decreasing quality of composer  HTML SM mail
will at a certain time become unusuable.
At that time, we were obliged to work in pure text only - the next step
is: 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Punched_tape<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punched_tape>to
 send TELEX :-)



Nonsense.  I'm having no trouble sending email in html (my default).

  So, you are able to Delete Table Rows or Cells ... tell us what is your

method ?



There are various work-arounds shown in the Bugzilla refs cited.  And they
all work.  And the issue, in the GUI, will be fixed shortly.

And, frankly, given that Mozilla has given up on Composer, like, what? A
decade ago?  Why are we even discussing it?

Well, okay.  Because Composer ought to have been stripped out of SeaMonkey
long ago as an abandoned component.  It isn't utile, it isn't being
supported, it produces horrible HTML and CSS (if at all).

This is a mid-1990s code/app that ought to be tossed on the trash heap.
  It encourages non-compliant Web page creation that will likely break in
various browsers.  And this from a goup that prides itself on compatability.

As of Daniel's following comment, yes.  I rarely (some odd conversion
routines) use Composer (or the other variants) other than to check
complaints here but I DO check the complaints and functionality.  But I
could use any of the variants for that too.

Composer ought to be shot in the head.  It ought to have been shot in the
head 10 years ago.

It sullies the suite/SeaMonkey.  Get rid of it.  If others want to try to
give its marginal value life by working on its code once in a while, fine,
let them live with it.  Don't sullie SeaMonkey with its inclusion.

It doesn't work.  Period.

And, frankly, no other WYSIWYG thingie produces verifiable code much much
more regularly.

If you're using it to produce Web pages I suggest you run them through the
W3C Validator:

http://validator.w3.**
org/check?uri='+escape(window.**location)<http://validator.w3.org/check?uri='+escape(window.location)>
)>

Save that link above.  Open your page created with Composer and click the
link.

Finally, the answer is:  If you're going to write Web pages, learn how.
  Don't rely on some ill-written program to spew out broken code.

There has been (and I was doing it in the late 80s and early 90s) an
ongoing effort to produce programs that generate code for people who don't
know how to do it.  With valid output. I don't know of one that does it
100%.

There is no substitute for writing valid code.

And, yes, I do understand that there are arguments about whether HTML and
CSS are, indeed, "code."  But that's another argument.



--
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John,

Since Composer has many compatibility problems, removing table rows as 
one, and since it will not be updated to current web standards, it 
should be 

Re: SM2.17 Composer Can Not Delete Table Rows or Cells

[M Gordon]

A Williams wrote:

M Gordon wrote:

Brooke Clarke wrote:

Hi:

I'm not able to delete rows or cells of a table in Sea Monkey 2.17
Composer.



Maybe it is time to strip Composer out of the Internet Suite, and
include only the browser and e-mail. At least let the user know
Composer is now a broken application and allow the user to exclude it
from the download and install.

Michael G


Composer - maintained or not - is one of the main reasons I use
Seamonkey. If it is removed then I have two bad choices:
- abandon Seamonkey altogether
- revert to 2.15 (2.16+ has another annoying mail bug) and inhibit all
updates.



That may be the best option.  I had to regress back to 2.1.0 because all 
the web development tools I had been using became broken.


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Re: SM2.17 Composer Can Not Delete Table Rows or Cells

[M Gordon]

cmcadams wrote:

M Gordon wrote:

cmcadams wrote:

M Gordon wrote:

Brooke Clarke wrote:

Hi:

I'm not able to delete rows or cells of a table in Sea Monkey 2.17
Composer.



Maybe it is time to strip Composer out of the Internet Suite, and
include only the
browser and e-mail. At least let the user know Composer is now a
broken application
and allow the user to exclude it from the download and install.

Michael G


Since the Composer code is also used in producing HTML emails, I'd
suggest that that isn't the brightest of ideas. And since I have
confirmed in the past day that Composer's new row deletion bug is
definitely there when composing email, it's back to SM 2.16.1 for me.

(And no, I don't need guidance on how ill-advised HTML email is. I have
a correspondent who favors them, and who will therefore continue to
receive them.)


I think you jumped to the wrong conclusion, Removing Composer from the
download and
installation does not mean removing it from e-mail. It means removing
the HTML
Composer from the options in writing web documents.

It would certainly stop a lot of complaints and problems after a user
downloads and
installs the latest version of SM, only to find out 1/3 of the
application is broke.

Bad Press!

Michael G


Yanking a feature that people were using successfully until a few days
ago just to stop complaints doesn't strike me as good press, either. And
since I've got to believe that the Composer/email bugs have a common
cause, it wouldn't help at all with email.



I seem to recall several major complaints over the last few "upgrades", 
"Security Patches" where the web page Composer was broken.


It's time to fix it, replace it, or dump it.

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Re: SM2.17 Composer Can Not Delete Table Rows or Cells

[M Gordon]

cmcadams wrote:

M Gordon wrote:

Brooke Clarke wrote:

Hi:

I'm not able to delete rows or cells of a table in Sea Monkey 2.17
Composer.



Maybe it is time to strip Composer out of the Internet Suite, and
include only the
browser and e-mail. At least let the user know Composer is now a
broken application
and allow the user to exclude it from the download and install.

Michael G


Since the Composer code is also used in producing HTML emails, I'd
suggest that that isn't the brightest of ideas. And since I have
confirmed in the past day that Composer's new row deletion bug is
definitely there when composing email, it's back to SM 2.16.1 for me.

(And no, I don't need guidance on how ill-advised HTML email is. I have
a correspondent who favors them, and who will therefore continue to
receive them.)


I think you jumped to the wrong conclusion, Removing Composer from the 
download and installation does not mean removing it from e-mail.  It 
means removing the HTML Composer from the options in writing web documents.


It would certainly stop a lot of complaints and problems after a user 
downloads and installs the latest version of SM, only to find out 1/3 of 
the application is broke.


Bad Press!

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Re: SM2.17 Composer Can Not Delete Table Rows or Cells

[M Gordon]

Brooke Clarke wrote:

Hi:

I'm not able to delete rows or cells of a table in Sea Monkey 2.17
Composer.



Maybe it is time to strip Composer out of the Internet Suite, and 
include only the browser and e-mail.  At least let the user know 
Composer is now a broken application and allow the user to exclude it 
from the download and install.


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Re: Failure To Redirect

[M Gordon]

LnrB wrote:

M Gordon wrote:

LnrB wrote:

I'm new to this group because I've just now loaded a brand new Sea
Monkey and it's not doing what I need/want/expect it to do. Part of that
is doubtless because I'm coming from my beloved v1.09, ca 2007.

I did *Finally* find where to load the Modern theme, which is not where
I'm accustomed to finding it, but I did find it.

I'm setting up my list of newsgroups, one of which I need to have the
home page redirect me to a moderators' page. However, I'm getting a
notice on the top of the tab that SeaMonkey has prevented redirection to
another page.

I'm sure this is another "security" measure, but I need to know how to
circumvent it.

Thank you,
(';')


Try this and see if it works the way you need.

Edit | Preferences | Appearance -> Content => Warn me when web sites try
to redirect or reload the page

Per domain? Very good question. And it would be nice to have.
Theoretically one would think it would be there. Theoretically
hostperm.1 would have handled it (in older Mozilla's). Don't know if the
guts are still in place & even if so how you would now enter such data
(as it would go into a .sqlite file & there is no UI for it). You would
think Data Manager would offer access (again assuming the back-end parts
are there), but it does not.

From:
https://www.google.com/search?sourceid=mozclient&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&q=page+redirect+seamonkey


Michael G


Thank you, Michael, it's good to see you.

I found that pref and Unchecked it, thank you. I looked for something
like that before, but being unfamiliar with this version I didn't see it.

There are several other things I would like to do also. Like lose the
Really *Stupid* throbber and replace it with my favorite square one like
I had in v1.09. But I don't even see a user.chrome folder here. Whose
bright idea what that?? (yeah, I know...)

Not only that, the bookmarks are imported, but they're all in one big
conglomeration, which I have to re-write if I want them in discrete
folders on the tool bar where they're actually useful.

I can't wait to see how many other things aren't where they 'should' be.
LOL
Thank you for your help, Michael. It's been *Such* a long time.
(';')



LnrB,

You are very welcome.

The reason you have not seen me here is I got real upset over the 
developers dropping support for the majority of the tools I used 
everyday.  This began after the release of v.2.0, and got worse with 
each upgrade.  I finally reverted back to v.2.1 where everything I need 
still works.


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Re: While I'm Here...

[M Gordon]

LnrB wrote:

I might as well ask how to import my bookmarks. I'm accustomed to merely
dragging them from the saved location to the .slt folder. It appears
that doesn't work anymore, because they are in some secret location.
(';')

LnrB,

I don't remember exactly where it is in your older version, I have 2.10 
here and it has changed.
If your version has the Bookmarks selection on the top menu bar click 
it, then look for Manage Bookmarks.  There you will find either an 
Import selection, or another method to locate your old bookmarks.


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Re: Failure To Redirect

[M Gordon]

LnrB wrote:

I'm new to this group because I've just now loaded a brand new Sea
Monkey and it's not doing what I need/want/expect it to do. Part of that
is doubtless because I'm coming from my beloved v1.09, ca 2007.

I did *Finally* find where to load the Modern theme, which is not where
I'm accustomed to finding it, but I did find it.

I'm setting up my list of newsgroups, one of which I need to have the
home page redirect me to a moderators' page. However, I'm getting a
notice on the top of the tab that SeaMonkey has prevented redirection to
another page.

I'm sure this is another "security" measure, but I need to know how to
circumvent it.

Thank you,
(';')


Try this and see if it works the way you need.

Edit | Preferences | Appearance -> Content => Warn me when web sites try 
to redirect or reload the page


Per domain? Very good question. And it would be nice to have. 
Theoretically one would think it would be there. Theoretically 
hostperm.1 would have handled it (in older Mozilla's). Don't know if the 
guts are still in place & even if so how you would now enter such data 
(as it would go into a .sqlite file & there is no UI for it). You would 
think Data Manager would offer access (again assuming the back-end parts 
are there), but it does not.


From:
https://www.google.com/search?sourceid=mozclient&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&q=page+redirect+seamonkey

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Re: can't remove corrupt SeaMonkey file

[M Gordon]

NormM wrote:

SeaMonkey 2.16.2, WinXP Pro SP3. I've been trying to delete (or fix) a corrupt 
file on my pc at:
C:\Documents and Settings\NormM\Local Settings\Application 
Data\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\vkxwuggr.default\Cache.Trash31234

I've tried most on-line recommended solutions methods but none work. Help. TIA



Norm,

I have the same set-up as you, but without the problem.
The Cash.Trash could be a folder that contains a hidden file, hidden by 
the Windows XP Operating System, or it could be a file still in use by 
something.


A quick test is to shutdown and power off for 60 sec.
Power up and boot into "Windows Safe-Mode".  This will start Windows in 
its most reduced operating system.  Nothing automatic will start, 
external hardware will not load, and antivirus should not launch, so to 
be safe unplug your internet cable.
When Windows is booted navigate to the offending folder and look inside, 
if its empty step back and delete the folder.  If it is not empty delete 
the files shown in that directory.  Then delete the folder.  If the 
folder cannot be deleted, or the folder shows no files, they may be 
hidden by the system.


Back all the way out and open Control Panel from your Start Menu. 
Navigate to "Folder Options and open the tab "View".  Look for items 
that read like: Hidden files and folders.  Unhide these options.  Then 
look for Hide extensions for know file types, and Hide protected 
operating system files.  Remove the checks to hide these options.


Close everything back to your desktop, reboot your system.

IMPORTANT!  You will now be shown any/and all Windows Operating System 
type files and folders, if you delete the wrong file you could trash 
your system.


The good news: you should not see any system files in/or under your 
Profile Folder, and if you find one in your subject Cache.Trash folder 
it dose not belong here.



Finally, if you do find a file in your Cache.Trash folder and cannot 
delete it step back to the folder just ahead of the Cache.Trash folder. 
 Right click on Cache.Trash and select "Properties", look down at 
Attributes and click on the green square to remove it, click Apply, then 
click on the radio button to apply to all files and subfolders.
This will remove the write only attribute to any and all files in 
folders within the Cache.Trash folder and all subfolders.


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Re: From: FF to SM??

[M Gordon]

silverfox38 wrote:

M Gordon wrote:

silverfox38 wrote:


Going to SM from FF does it get the Bookmarks, Mail Address, etc?? on
it`s on? or do we have to do it manually??

TIA

Silverfox38


Silverfox,

It has been a long time since I tried that rout, I can only guess.

If SM cannot automatically import all your old file content (Bookmarks,
Mail settings, Address books, Passwords, etc.), you should be able yo
manually import them from the user interface in SM.

Michael G


Thanks Michael, but it`s been a very long time since I went through this
and can not remember exactly what to do? Can you help?

Thanks

Silverfox38


Silverfox,

SeaMonkey is built like an Apartment House, each floor is a different 
function; mail, browser, address book, chat, etc.  In each user 
interface you should see a menu bar near the top of the window, and one 
of the tabs will read "Tools".  In tools you should have an option to 
Import data.  This all works well if the data can be found.  One big 
problem in earlier versions of the Internet Suite was the ability to 
install the program and its files in custom made folders/directories in 
place of the default pathways SeaMonkey had in its install 
configuration.  That is why we have an "Import Option".


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Re: From: FF to SM??

[M Gordon]

silverfox38 wrote:


Going to SM from FF does it get the Bookmarks, Mail Address, etc?? on
it`s on? or do we have to do it manually??

TIA

Silverfox38


Silverfox,

It has been a long time since I tried that rout, I can only guess.

If SM cannot automatically import all your old file content (Bookmarks, 
Mail settings, Address books, Passwords, etc.), you should be able yo 
manually import them from the user interface in SM.


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Re: An odd SM crash

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Ed Mullen wrote:

Ed Mullen wrote:

I leave SeaMonkey running, walk away from my PC. Come back some
indeterminate number of hours later.

Hit the CTRL key to wake up my displays. Screen comes up as expected.
Move the mouse around the screen. As the mouse moves over the SM
window(s) it wipes/erases the SM image.

Right-click, choose Refresh, SM windows dissappear and all is well,
Windows desktop and other programs just fine.

SM has crashed but no crash report is produced. Run SM and it does ask
if I want to re-load the last session or a new one.

This started a couple months ago. My video card had died sorta, the fan
self-destructed. I couldn't even find the pieces inside the case. Put
in a new card and it's still happening.

Well, this PC is circa October 2006, still, dual-core, 3GHz, tons of
memory and disk space.

It may just be age (mine or the PC or both) ... maybe I just relegate
this to a server role and buy a new one.

Thoughts?



I just woke my displays and the above situation was in effect. I did
check the crash reports and there is one, generated when Irefreshed the
screen:






Ed,

This may not be a Mozilla problem, it may be a Windows OS problem.

Check your desktop settings for: Screen Saver = Blank
Screen Saver/Advanced/Power Schemes = Home/Office Desk.  Turn off 
monitor after 15min, all remaining options = Never.


Sometimes a program, or web app. will temporarily change the Windows 
functions, and they need to be reset.


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Re: Disabling Sea Monkey UPDATES

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John wrote:

I do not use anything in SM but the Composer. If there is talk about
removing this in the future then I do not want anymore SM updates. All I
care about is the basics and come to this group for help here. Other
than that my focus is Bible/Theology and theological users dont exactly
know nor care about this techno jargon.

Not one criticism to my site from users has been regarding techno jargon
or the fact that I am still using HTML or a CMM app like Word Press. If
people are going to criticize me its because they disagree with my
theology or what the Bible says.


John,

If you want to disable updates in SeaMonkey go to 
Edit/Preferences/Advanced/Software Installation and remove the check 
from SeaMonkey automatically Check for Updates.


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Re: Editing HTML files in Sea Monkey

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John wrote:

In article,
  M Gordon  wrote:


John,

My preference is WS_FTP to publish my web pages.  I can upload
documents, delete documents, upload modified documents, and compare
documents on the web server and my PC side-by-side.


Is that a Windows app? I am on a Mac. I use Cyberduck


John,

WS_FTP is a PC (Windows) application, you might want to look at Fetch, 
it is for a Mac and should perform the same tasking as WS_FTP.


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Re: Editing HTML files in Sea Monkey

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Philip TAYLOR wrote:



  wrote:


It could be that no one at SM knows how to remove it from the suite, and
still allow mail to compose messages in HTML.


I would imagine that it would require very little work
to remove it from the user interface, leaving the kernel
in place, but if that were done, die-hard Composer users
would (with complete justification) ask "Why have you done
that ?".


Would it be a suite if they removed Chat?


Of course.

Philip Taylor


Philip,

The logical resolution is to regress a few versions and let the user 
decide which elements from the "Toolbox" he wants to download and install.


It all goes back to the age old argument, what the user wants, not what 
the developer wants.


I can tell you this from experience.  If Sea Monkey were provided at a 
cost to the user I would find something else.


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Re: Editing HTML files in Sea Monkey

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Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

Mark Berger wrote:


So why is it still included in the SM suite?


I have absolutely no idea. You should write to the developers and ask!


  It seems like it is
causing more problems than benefits from backwards compatibility.


You are very correct.



Beau,

It could be that no one at SM knows how to remove it from the suite, and 
still allow mail to compose messages in HTML.


If they did figure out how to remove it without harm, would SeaMonkey 
still be an Internet Suite?


It seems logical that the SM development team leader could contact the 
developer of BlueGriffin and talk about porting BG into SM.


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Re: Editing HTML files in Sea Monkey

[M Gordon]

John wrote:

In article,
  M Gordon  wrote:



John,

I cannot say if or when SeaMonkey/Composer will ever be updated.  It has
been many years since any work has been done to the HTML editor.  There
was some talk a long time ago about importing Komposer, or BlueGriffin
into the SeaMonkey suite, but that has been silent for a very long time.

The best thing you can do for the time being is to use either HTML
editor, or a plain text editor, and use SeaMonkey as a proof-reader.
While editing a document has SM open to the page you are editing.  When
you make a change, save the change, then reload SM to see the results.

Michael G


Thanks Michael.

I do use TextWrangler sometimes to edit HTML code and it has one major
advantage in it can upload to the FTP server without me having to launch
my FTP client. A feature I wish Sea Monkey had!


John,

My preference is WS_FTP to publish my web pages.  I can upload 
documents, delete documents, upload modified documents, and compare 
documents on the web server and my PC side-by-side.


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Re: Editing HTML files in Sea Monkey

[M Gordon]

John wrote:

In article,
  M Gordon  wrote:


John wrote:

I edit and create pages all the time using SM for my site. However my
index.htm page (http://www.cerm.info) for some reason the color for my
links on the left is off. I can live with the problem, but its annoying.
Only SM renders the page in its composer this way. Any ideas??


Hello John,

The only way we can try to asst you is if you provide more detailed
information on your problem.

Example:  The links in the left navigation panel look fine.  They are
white, underlined, change to Italic font, and look like Arial Font.
After clicked and connected they rmain the same.

You also have an external Style Sheet and Composer will not read the
META tag for CSS.  For that you need Komposer. or BlueGriffin.

Michael G


Oh so that is why the colors are off in the SM Composer, I have those
apps but do not like them as much as SM. When will SM solve this issue
for I love SM and do not like those other editors.


John,

I cannot say if or when SeaMonkey/Composer will ever be updated.  It has 
been many years since any work has been done to the HTML editor.  There 
was some talk a long time ago about importing Komposer, or BlueGriffin 
into the SeaMonkey suite, but that has been silent for a very long time.


The best thing you can do for the time being is to use either HTML 
editor, or a plain text editor, and use SeaMonkey as a proof-reader. 
While editing a document has SM open to the page you are editing.  When 
you make a change, save the change, then reload SM to see the results.


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Re: Editing HTML files in Sea Monkey

[M Gordon]

John wrote:

I edit and create pages all the time using SM for my site. However my
index.htm page (http://www.cerm.info) for some reason the color for my
links on the left is off. I can live with the problem, but its annoying.
Only SM renders the page in its composer this way. Any ideas??


Hello John,

The only way we can try to asst you is if you provide more detailed 
information on your problem.


Example:  The links in the left navigation panel look fine.  They are 
white, underlined, change to Italic font, and look like Arial Font. 
After clicked and connected they rmain the same.


You also have an external Style Sheet and Composer will not read the 
META tag for CSS.  For that you need Komposer. or BlueGriffin.


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Re: Delete mistakes from newsgroup

[M Gordon]

Ray Davison wrote:

M Gordon wrote:


It is very normal to include the account mail address when in a
newsgroup account, and it is also reasonable that you cannot change that
address field.

When you open an e-mail account, and have several available mail
accounts, you cna compose a new message, or reply to an existing
message, and change the sent mail address to one of the other account
addresses. But not when working in a newsgroup account.


If while in a newsgroup, I click Compose, a compose window opens, and is
pre-addressed to that newsgroup. But, I can change the address to "To",
and then the mail address book is active. Does that differ with what you
said above?

Anyway, I almost did it again. If I open Compose while in an email
account, and forget to address it, it is fail-safe; it goes nowhere. Do
that in a newsgroup account, and it goes somewhere, but not necessarily
where I want it to go. It seems that the system is trying to "help" me
by inserting the newsgroup address, but I would rather it didn't.

Ray




Ray,

What I am trying to explain is as follows.
If you open your Mail and newsgroups application from SeaMonkey, and you 
click on a newsgroup account to read your postings, and then reply or 
compose a new message SM is supposed to fill in the newsgroup address in 
the To: field.
SeaMonkey is supposed to insert the To:, or Reply: address because it is 
assumed you will be sending a message to that newsgroup account.


On the other hand, if you have several e-mail accounts, and you click on 
one account to read your messages, and then decide to compose a new 
message, SM has no idea to whom you wish to send the message to; so it 
leaves the To: field empty.



> Anyway, I almost did it again. If I open Compose while in an email
> account, and forget to address it, it is fail-safe; it goes nowhere.
That is normal safe behavior.

>Do
> that in a newsgroup account, and it goes somewhere, but not necessarily
> where I want it to go. It seems that the system is trying to "help" me
> by inserting the newsgroup address, but I would rather it didn't.

The message in the newsgroup goes somewhere, back to the newsgroup 
server for deployment to all other newsgroup members.


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Re: Delete mistakes from newsgroup

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Ray Davison wrote:

I seem to recall being able to delete my own postings if there was a
problem. I would be going thru email lists clearing out old postings,
and after email is newsgroups, and if I tried to delete a message I
would get an error box saying I could only delete my own messages.

Did I dream all that or did something change?

Anyway, sorry for sending something personal to the list. If you are in
a newsgroup, and select Compose, it enters the newsgroup address, and I
didn't catch it.

Ray


Ray,

For several years now you could delete your own posting in your news 
reader, but not from the newsgroup server.  To delete postings from the 
server you have to have Admin authority.


It is very normal to include the account mail address when in a 
newsgroup account, and it is also reasonable that you cannot change that 
address field.


When you open an e-mail account, and have several available mail 
accounts, you cna compose a new message, or reply to an existing 
message, and change the sent mail address to one of the other account 
addresses.  But not when working in a newsgroup account.


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Re: How do I import/merge into a profile?

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Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote:

Daniel wrote:

Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote:

Windows 7 ultimate, SM 2.15.2

I have one profile 111.default and a tree of folders
222.default which is a renamed profile structure from
elsewhere.
I would like to import/merge 222.default into 111.default.
What is the proper, easiest, way of doing this?



Rostylaw, don't know about the proper way, but.

*If you just move/copy the files from .default to
.default, you will overwrite you active account* , so what I
would do is, in Win7 Explorer, rename the .default inbox to
_inbox and then move/copy it into your .default profile
at the same level as its inbox. Then, when you open SM, you should see
both your inbox and the _inbox listed under your normal profile
and can move mail from one folder to the other, if needed.

Do likewise for the sent folder, drafts folder, etc from the
c,default profile into the .default profile.

Don't worry about renaming any of the *.msf folders, they will be
recreated as needed.


Thank you Daniel. What you recommend will, of course, work.
But that seems to me to me to be the brute force method
and I was hoping that there was some more elegant way or facility
for doing this task.
Mr. Gordon. If what you suggest is different from Daniels' method,
then please explain again, as I do not understand what you are
suggesting.


Rostyk,

What I am suggestion is a move and linking of the 222.default file 
from its old location into the new profile location, this way you can 
have access to both profiles if you nee one or the other.


You should have a folder in your system called Profiles for the 
Mozilla/SeaMonkey installation.  If you copy the name of the old profile 
2.default and paste it into the Profiles folder of the new 
installation you can link Profile Manager to it the easy way.
You wont have to worry about moving mail account folders and files, 
address books, bookmarks, passwords, saved forms, etc.


If you move the 2.default profile folder to the new location, I 
suggest you rename this profile folder something different than 
".default".  The developers and programmers of Mozilla have gone to a 
lot of trouble creating a secure location for our profiles, the normal 
method of creating a profile folder is to use a series of letters and 
numbers (encrypted) and a special 3 letter extension.  This prevents 
hackers from searching our hard drives for files named *.default.

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Re: How do I import/merge into a profile?

[M Gordon]

Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote:

Windows 7 ultimate, SM 2.15.2

I have one profile 111.default and a tree of folders
222.default which is a renamed profile structure from
elsewhere.
I would like to import/merge 222.default into 111.default.
What is the proper, easiest, way of doing this?



Rosty,

Perhaps the easiest method is to drag your old profile over to the new 
profile folder and drop it into the Profile folder, then use SM Profile 
Manger to select the old profile.


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Re: Java

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Matthias Kahlert wrote:

Am 31.01.2013 17:30, schrieb Roger Fink:


Here's something simple that I think is worth trying, and I would be very
interested in the results you come up with. We both have sites where java
won't launch. But here is a site where it works for me:
http://www.time.gov/

If you are able to get the clock going, then there is likely some site
interaction problem contributing to your profile situation.


Doesn't work here anywhere, but may likely be firewall related. (If the
applet tries to establish a connection other than trough the http-proxy
this will fail here.)



Matthias,

I am going to suggest a solution that may meet with a lot of discourse 
with other members of this group, but it works.


Oracle acquired JAVA and decided it needed some upgrades.  Oracle 
released its upgrade version 7.  There may have been some security 
upgrades, and some performance improvements, and some functionality 
upgrades.  But whatever they did they introduced more security issues 
than they can solve.


The suggestion is two fold.
1. If you had downloaded the previous version #6, make sure it is JAVA 6 
u 38, the full version number is 6.0.380.5
2. Close all web browsers and applications that may use JAVA.  For 
Windows users go to Control Panel/Add-Remove Programs.  Remove all 
versions of JAVA.  If you had downloaded SeaMonkey 2.1 and saved it on 
your HD you can uninstall your current version of SM.  Uninstalling SM 
will not tamper with your Profile.  For Windows users, after 
uninstalling SeaMonkey, reboot your computer.  Navigate to were you 
saved the SeaMonkey install file and double click to install.  During 
the install process SM will import all your profile settings.  Make sure 
all web browsers are closed.  Navigate to where you saved the JAVA 
installation file and double click on JAVA 6 U38.


Once you downgrade SM to version 2.1 you may be surprised at all the 
tools, plugins, themes, and extensions that will now work.


Once you install the earlier version of SM (2.1) you will remove some 
security enhancements, but if you employ a good firewall, anti-virus, 
anti-malware program, and execute care when connecting to questionable 
web sites you should have no problems.


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Re: Unsubscribe, Please

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David E. Ross wrote:

On 1/28/13 7:20 AM, Lori wrote:

Email.



You subscribed.  Why don't you know how to unsubscribe?


Maybe Lori clicked on a link to subscribe.

We used to have these in the web site help section.
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