Re: Highly Confusing "Print To File" - Where does it go ?
On Fri, 10 Jan 2020 13:43:17 -0800, DoctorBill in mozilla.support.seamonkey wrote: >I am asking here because a Google Search brought up implications that >this is a specific Browser thing and not applicable to Windows (7).(?) > >I was on my wife's Health Insurance web site (Fidelity) and found her >"Claims Activity" link. That goes to a HUGE List (she had cancer) which >has a "Print" button. Clicking THAT sends me to the print Options. >One "Option" is - PRINT TO FILE. >Here is the problem . . . . . WHERE does the file get printed to ? >NO choices are given to place - just File Name > >Looking for information on this on Google just brings up ALL SORTS of >Gobble-De-Gook ! One opinion after another ! Mostly rubbish. > >Searching for the file name gets me no-where ! > >Can someone point me in the right direction ? I know it is OFF TOPIC. >Sorry for that ! > >DoctorBill Nothing Off-topic about your question. i just tried it with win 64 on Seamonkey 2.49.3 worked like a charm! created a pdf file of images from my tab (about:memory) and wrote it where i said to put it. Originally wanted to put it in "recent documents" which most likely would have been under my win user name under subdirectory "USERS/name/documents" default file name was the tab title + .pdf and the file opened with my pdf reader associated with portable document files.. Hope you got yours straight. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Useragent string
On Thu, 21 Feb 2019 17:20:29 -0700, JAS in mozilla.support.seamonkey wrote: >scientist77...@gmail.com wrote: >> I have to spoof my useragent to use Yahoo mail with Seamonkey. >> >> I use this. >> Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:64.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/64.0 >> >> I can read my mail but can not delete emails. >> >> >> Is there a fix other than using FF? >> >Check here for strings >http://www.useragentstring.com/pages/useragentstring.php and if you are >using PrefBar with the Real UA button you can install as many as you >like and try. I use the version 7.1.1 and I run Seamonkey 2.48 and >Windows 7 Pro: >http://prefbar.tuxfamily.org/archive.html >Just a thought. You have to revert your yahoo mail account from the latest and greatest to what they call "classic" mail format, and that will run fine in SM.and Inet Xplorer 6 (or whatever shipped with win 7). The how to instructions are simple and are on the web. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey uses too much memory
On Fri, 15 Mar 2019 11:54:22 -0400, j...@comcast.com in mozilla.support.seamonkey wrote: >This morning, in less than 3 hours of running, Seamonkey had taken over >2.5 gig of memory and was climbing. About 8 tabs were open -- including 4 >for the application FACEBOOK. > >It had frozen and was past the point of graceful shutdown though i might >have been able to do that with about 30 minutes work. (I have before) > >Is there a way to make it use less memory? If so, what would it be? > What i have come to find useful, or at least it seems so, is to enter "about:memory" in the location bar the same as you might use "about: config". Choose the third box entry of "minimize memory" using win 7 task manager as a control measurer of memory used, the greatest saving i have seen is 20%, though it is usually between 3% and 10%. the first two buttons are GC and CC but the third button, on rollover, claims to incorporate those two in it's function. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: saving memory with prefs.js entry
On Thu, 14 Mar 2019 02:04:50 -0400, "Paul B. Gallagher" in mozilla.support.seamonkey wrote: >David E. Ross wrote: > >> I always use user.js to set preference variables to non-default >> values. That is because I can annotate each setting with a comment >> (// on the beginning of the line) to remind me why I have a >> non-default value. > >OK, syntax question: Does a comment have to be on a separate line? > >In other words, is this possible? > >setting here // comment here > >Or do you have to do this? > >setting here >// comment here > >Thanks. > That is an interesting question. Consider how the file is laid down to disk. Logically, and disregarding fragmented files, it is a straight line of data with line end characters every 80 or so bytes (depending on what your line-end has been set asor a bunch of other factors.) >-- >War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey uses too much memory
On Tue, 19 Mar 2019 13:28:54 -0700, Ant in mozilla.support.seamonkey wrote: >Ditto. I always loved the suite products, since Netscape days, even >though people think I am crazy! I started out on Netscape 3.0 -- Navigator Remember when you would open the bookmarks file or Prefs.js of Seamonkey or Firefox and the header would be "This is a Netscape File, Do Not Edit." (Of course you could edit it, just had to be sure that all of the app was completely closed.) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey uses too much memory
On Thu, 21 Mar 2019 13:13:54 +0100, Gabriel in mozilla.support.seamonkey wrote: >SM blocked many times a day. >And this is on iMac 5K with 24GB of RAM! You answered a major question of mine right here. More like a surmisal i had that if i just got more RAM it would simply eat it in time. I was running Seamonkey as my main browser since Firefox had been eating too much RAM. It appears that i just transferred the problem. I had a single streaming application that *apparently* was eating the RAM in time. I isolated it, quit running it as a constant app and have not had a lockup since. I said apparently because i can't say for sure that was it, but when i removed it from the mix, the excessive RAM usage stopped. So far. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey uses too much memory
On Sat, 16 Mar 2019 08:52:11 -0700, NFN Smith in mozilla.support.seamonkey wrote: >A couple of additional questions come to mind: > >- How much RAM do you have in your system, and how many other things do >you have open? If you're operating on 4 GB, then Seamonkey is going to >be taking most of that, especially with Facebook. If you have other >things open, then you're likely hitting memory issues, and where your >computer is doing serious amounts of swapping out to your hard drive. >If you're doing swapping, a hard disk is much slower than RAM, and the >result is going to be noticeable slowness. > >- When is the last time you cleared your browser cache? Sometimes that >can help quite a bit, especially with stalled pages. Cache is something >that also dates back to dial-up era, when it made sense to try to >minimize the volume of traffic going over the wire, especially for >content that had already been downloaded. > >In modern usage, cache is much less important, partly because of the >speed of connections, but also because of content that's being >constantly updated, and where there's less content that can be re-used >from the cache. In my own usage, I find no noticeable performance loss >from running a much smaller cache than the default, nor of regular cache >flushes. And for hung processes, clearing the cache and reloading the >entire page can make a real difference. > >Although I'm not advocating for it, I do know that I've seen people note >that they set browser caches to 0. For you, you might try experimenting >with a smaller cache. > >- You might also want to consider what you might accomplish with >NoScript. That's not necessarily a trivial thing to do, because it >takes tinkering to figure out what scripting you want running (and in >fact, is essential) and where blocking scripting simply mutes stuff that >doesn't need to be running, at least for your usage. With Facebook, >there's a lot of scripting that they're doing with data collection and >analysis, and it may be that blocking some of that may cut down on the >demand for resources. To answer the questions: 1. I have 6 gig of RAM 2. current about:cache reports: memory Number of entries: 8 Maximum storage size: 20 KiB Storage in use: 122 KiB Storage disk location: none, only stored in memory List Cache Entries disk Number of entries: 1550 Maximum storage size: 51200 KiB Storage in use: 46501 KiB Storage disk location: C:\Users\xx\AppData\Local\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\default\cache2 List Cache Entries appcache Number of entries: 69 Maximum storage size: 512000 KiB Storage in use: 6000 KiB ~~ In other words, cache is "hardly there at all". Certain identifiable information changed to "x" strings jim ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey uses too much memory
On Sat, 16 Mar 2019 12:19:48 -0700, Ant in mozilla.support.seamonkey wrote: >> Is there a way to make it use less memory? If so, what would it be? > >No. Facebook, LinkedIn, etc. are the big memory and CPU hoggers in my >SeaMonkey usages especially with multiple tabs. Thanks. I just wondered. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey uses too much memory
On Fri, 15 Mar 2019 15:23:15 -0700, "David E. Ross" in mozilla.support.seamonkey wrote: >On 3/15/2019 8:54 AM, j...@comcast.com wrote: >> This morning, in less than 3 hours of running, Seamonkey had taken over >> 2.5 gig of memory and was climbing. About 8 tabs were open -- including 4 >> for the application FACEBOOK. >> >> It had frozen and was past the point of graceful shutdown though i might >> have been able to do that with about 30 minutes work. (I have before) >> >> Is there a way to make it use less memory? If so, what would it be? >> >> > >The amount of memory used by any browser reflect the following: >* how many tabs are open >* how complex are the Web pages >* what scripts are running in the Web pages >* what extensions are active > >You had FOUR tabs open just of Facebook! Did you really need all four? >How much memory is required if you have only one tab for Facebook and no >tabs for anything else? How much memory is required if you have four >tabs open but none of them are for Facebook? Were any of your tabs >streaming a video or sound? > >I do not use Facebook, so I cannot test what happens with tabs open to >Facebook. With two tabs open to Web pages that automicatically update, >however, I just launched a YouTube streaming video of Tchaikovsky's >Violin Concerto; the memory requirement immediately doubled (but still >less than 260 MB). Let me splain that. I do not often use the main Facebook "newsfeed". I use groups. I am probably an active member of a dozen or so. When i opened Usenet there were three groups available on my "subscribed" main page. I use faceook much the same way as i used Usednet for many years previous The four tabs were 3 groups and my notifications. (Glad to see someone besides my self who likes classical music -- through the night i listen to KUSC or KDFC or any of several other choices i have marked for bluetooth streaming) Try this by Ravel for a few moments relaxation -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKkeDqJBlK8 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Seamonkey uses too much memory
This morning, in less than 3 hours of running, Seamonkey had taken over 2.5 gig of memory and was climbing. About 8 tabs were open -- including 4 for the application FACEBOOK. It had frozen and was past the point of graceful shutdown though i might have been able to do that with about 30 minutes work. (I have before) Is there a way to make it use less memory? If so, what would it be? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: How set default text encoding display in Seamonkey Mail ?
On Mon, 25 Feb 2019 13:32:00 +0100, Rubens in mozilla.support.seamonkey wrote: >so I always have to manually change the Text Encoding option for every Unicode >e-mail I read. Just a wild thought, does the user you are reading the email as have authority to make global changes in the application? You might try opening that app as ADMIN and try the change. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: saving memory with prefs.js entry
On Thu, 14 Mar 2019 09:28:35 +, Dirk Fieldhouse <"Not Saying"> in
mozilla.support.seamonkey wrote:
>On 14/03/19 01:04, j...@comcast.com wrote:
>> in OS win 7, 64bit..
>> will "user_pref("config.trim_on_minimize", true);" achieve the desired
>> effect of reducing memory usage if added to Seamonkey's prefs.js.
>>...
>
>No: because this setting was specific to Windows XP and you have Windows
>7 and "on Vista and up it has little to no effect" (from
>widget/windows/nsWindow.cpp:845). You should expect it to disappear in
>SM versions that take on changes subsequent to FF 52.
>
>/df
Thank you, Dirk! (I knew someone would eventually answer the main
question :-) )
I have found that Seamonkey 2.49.3 contains the "about:memory" dialogue
and the minimize memory on that page seems to have reasonably good effect.
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Re: Useragent string
On Thu, 21 Feb 2019 14:40:13 -0800 (PST), scientist77...@gmail.com in mozilla.support.seamonkey wrote: >I have to spoof my useragent to use Yahoo mail with Seamonkey. > >I use this. >Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:64.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/64.0 > >I can read my mail but can not delete emails. > > >Is there a fix other than using FF? You can return to classic Yahoo, then use Seamonkey. I just did it for the same reason you are spoofing the useragent. https://www.lifewire.com/switch-to-yahoo-classic-1174502 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Useragent string
On Fri, 22 Feb 2019 04:22:41 -0800 (PST), scientist77...@gmail.com in mozilla.support.seamonkey wrote: >On Thursday, February 21, 2019 at 11:45:18 PM UTC-6, Daniel wrote: >> scientist77...@gmail.com wrote on 22/02/2019 3:36 PM: >> > On Thursday, February 21, 2019 at 7:47:52 PM UTC-6, WaltS48 wrote: >> >> On 2/21/19 8:33 PM, scientist77...@gmail.com wrote: >> >>> On Thursday, February 21, 2019 at 7:14:17 PM UTC-6, David H. Durgee >> >>> wrote: >> scientist77...@gmail.com wrote: >> > I have to spoof my useragent to use Yahoo mail with Seamonkey. >> > >> > I use this. >> > Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:64.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/64.0 >> > >> > I can read my mail but can not delete emails. >> > >> > Is there a fix other than using FF? >> >> How are you accessing Yahoo mail? I read mine here via IMAP using the >> SeaMonkey Mail & Newsgroups support. >> >>> >> >>> Thru Seamonkey. >> >> >> >> Through an email account created in the Mail & Newsgroups window or web >> >> mail in the browser? >> > >> > Web mail in my browser. >> > >> ... then I think you might have some other (non-SeaMonkey related) >> problem because I have a freebie Yahoo mail web based account that I >> check out every week or so ... without having to spoof my SeaMonkey User >> Agent string (as shown below). ;-( >> >> -- >> Daniel >> >> User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 >> SeaMonkey/2.49.1 Build identifier: 20171016030418 >> >> User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 >> SeaMonkey/2.49.1 Build identifier: 20171015235623 > >Thanks, I will try out your string. > >That's strange because I have no problems if I use Firefox? > >Andy same situation here Andy, except i have not spoofed the useragent yet. Hopefully, i will learn how to spoof useragent at the web site given earlier. Right now, Yahoo returns Seamonkey the message: update to FF, update to Chrome, or continue with legacy yahoo (option does not work). So to check the server, i am using FF. It just started a couple weeks ago. Worked fine before then but had been saying that it would quit working on 2/1/19 but continued working for a few weeks after that. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
saving memory with prefs.js entry
in OS win 7, 64bit..
will "user_pref("config.trim_on_minimize", true);" achieve the desired
effect of reducing memory usage if added to Seamonkey's prefs.js.
how should the preference be added? should it be in user.js or prefs.js?
Other than protocol, does it really make any difference which file it
would be added to?
Since there is no user.js at this time for seamonkey on my system, which
sub-directory should the user.js file go in?
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