Re: Browser slow

2016-02-13 Thread Ed Mullen 

Thee Chicago Wolf (MVP) wrote on 2/13/2016 9:49 PM:

On Sat, 13 Feb 2016 17:07:09 -0500, WaltS48 
wrote:


On 02/13/2016 04:59 PM, Thee Chicago Wolf (MVP) wrote:

On Sat, 13 Feb 2016 22:01:56 +0100, Ray_Net
 wrote:


Thee Chicago Wolf (MVP) wrote on 13/02/2016 20:27:

On Fri, 12 Feb 2016 23:47:58 +0100, Ray_Net
 wrote:


Thee Chicago Wolf (MVP) wrote on 12/02/2016 20:41:

On Fri, 12 Feb 2016 10:23:48 -0500, "G. Ross" 
wrote:


Daniel wrote:

On 12/02/16 23:52, Daniel wrote:

On 12/02/16 22:29, G. Ross wrote:

Thee Chicago Wolf (MVP) wrote:

On Wed, 10 Feb 2016 12:36:38 -0500, "G. Ross" 
wrote:


I have used seamonkey since it was mozilla.  It seems to be getting
slower (browser).  Weather.com takes forever to load all it's little
programs and sometimes hangs, for the past month.  Mail and newsgroups
do fine.  I updated to the latest version of Seamonkey with no
appreciable speed-up.  I have Java, NoScript enabled. Flash set to
always ask.

In desperation I tried Internet Exploder for the weather.com and it
pops up almost instantaneously.

Any advice appreciated.

Which version of SM? 32 or 64 bit? I am not finding it being slower
with newer versions. Quite the contrary.

Give this candidate build a whirl and see if it improves your
situation:
https://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~akalla/unofficial/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-release-windows32/




How do you tell if 32 or 64 bit?  My computer is 64 but only saw one
version of 2.39 and installed it.  Note:  I am 75 and my brain is 2 bit.


The "windows32" would indicate, to me, that it's 32 bit. A 64 bit might
have something like "x86_64" in the link!

No!! Of course I'd be wrong!! . Try this one 

https://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~akalla/unofficial/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-aurora-linux64/

And what a goose!! Tonight I'm on Linux, so of course the link I gave
was for Linux!! ;-(

Try
https://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~akalla/unofficial/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-aurora-windows64/


Thank you!  I downloaded the installer.  Still thinking about
installing it.

I'd probably not use an aurora build since it's very alpha. Stick with
release builds if you want stability.

In https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/releases/2.39/  an official
release build ...
I cannot see Win64 - I just see win32

https://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~akalla/unofficial/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-release-windows64/

Where did you see there an OFFICIAL release of SM 2.39 for 64 bits ?
You show always UNofficial versions.
Would you say that SM 64 bits is unofficial ?

None exists because 2.39 is based on 32-bit Firefox. 64-bit Firefox
didn't become official until v43 or v44 which is not what SM 2.39 is
based on. 2.40 was cancelled. I'm running 2.42 beta myself after
having run 2.41 for a while. 2.42 is based on FF 45.0. 2.41 is based
on FF 44.0. You'll be waiting until you're old and grey before the
build system is fixed. You can run the ones from ~akalla as they're
the closest thing to release you will get presently.


I am old and grey! Does that mean I'll have to wait until I'm dead and
buried (or in my case dissected by med students) before the build system
is fixed. ;)


At this point, yup. Those builds in the akalla folder are being done
on a loaner machine set up to keep things limping along until the
build system, if ever, gets straightened out. It's been about a year
since it broke so I wouldn't hold my breath.



Umm, what is the issue with hardware here?  Who's providing it and why 
is it broken for a year?  Who owns/provides it?


And what exactly constitutes a "build system"?

I understand SM is a volunteer project but if there is a need for help 
with this please be specific.



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Re: Browser slow

2016-02-13 Thread G. Ross 

G. Ross wrote:

G. Ross wrote:

I have used seamonkey since it was mozilla.  It seems to be getting
slower (browser).  Weather.com takes forever to load all it's little
programs and sometimes hangs, for the past month.  Mail and newsgroups
do fine.  I updated to the latest version of Seamonkey with no
appreciable speed-up.  I have Java, NoScript enabled. Flash set to
always ask.

In desperation I tried Internet Exploder for the weather.com and it
pops up almost instantaneously.

Any advice appreciated.


I uninstalled the new Seamonkey and re-installed the old version
(2.26.1) that I had been using and now it loads the weather super
fast.  I can't understand it but something fixed it.

Thank you all for taking the time to try to help me.  It's nice to
know that there is a community of users out there willing to spend
time helping an old codger like me.

Clarification:  Before initially uninstalling 2.26.1 I copied all the 
files in the Seamonkey directory to another place, also copied the 
files from Users/appdata/ low and roaming.


Then I  installed the new version without any change in behavior.  I 
uninstalled this but DID NOT install 2.26.1 again.  I simply copied 
the above files back to where they were and made an icon to start 
Seamonkey and it works great.  But according to Control Panel 
Seamonkey is not installed.  Browser brings up things faster than ever 
before.  Is this weird?


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Re: Browser slow

2016-02-13 Thread WaltS48 

On 02/13/2016 04:59 PM, Thee Chicago Wolf (MVP) wrote:

On Sat, 13 Feb 2016 22:01:56 +0100, Ray_Net
 wrote:


Thee Chicago Wolf (MVP) wrote on 13/02/2016 20:27:

On Fri, 12 Feb 2016 23:47:58 +0100, Ray_Net
 wrote:


Thee Chicago Wolf (MVP) wrote on 12/02/2016 20:41:

On Fri, 12 Feb 2016 10:23:48 -0500, "G. Ross" 
wrote:


Daniel wrote:

On 12/02/16 23:52, Daniel wrote:

On 12/02/16 22:29, G. Ross wrote:

Thee Chicago Wolf (MVP) wrote:

On Wed, 10 Feb 2016 12:36:38 -0500, "G. Ross" 
wrote:


I have used seamonkey since it was mozilla.  It seems to be getting
slower (browser).  Weather.com takes forever to load all it's little
programs and sometimes hangs, for the past month.  Mail and newsgroups
do fine.  I updated to the latest version of Seamonkey with no
appreciable speed-up.  I have Java, NoScript enabled. Flash set to
always ask.

In desperation I tried Internet Exploder for the weather.com and it
pops up almost instantaneously.

Any advice appreciated.

Which version of SM? 32 or 64 bit? I am not finding it being slower
with newer versions. Quite the contrary.

Give this candidate build a whirl and see if it improves your
situation:
https://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~akalla/unofficial/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-release-windows32/




How do you tell if 32 or 64 bit?  My computer is 64 but only saw one
version of 2.39 and installed it.  Note:  I am 75 and my brain is 2 bit.


The "windows32" would indicate, to me, that it's 32 bit. A 64 bit might
have something like "x86_64" in the link!

No!! Of course I'd be wrong!! . Try this one 

https://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~akalla/unofficial/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-aurora-linux64/

And what a goose!! Tonight I'm on Linux, so of course the link I gave
was for Linux!! ;-(

Try
https://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~akalla/unofficial/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-aurora-windows64/


Thank you!  I downloaded the installer.  Still thinking about
installing it.

I'd probably not use an aurora build since it's very alpha. Stick with
release builds if you want stability.

In https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/releases/2.39/  an official
release build ...
I cannot see Win64 - I just see win32

https://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~akalla/unofficial/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-release-windows64/

Where did you see there an OFFICIAL release of SM 2.39 for 64 bits ?
You show always UNofficial versions.
Would you say that SM 64 bits is unofficial ?

None exists because 2.39 is based on 32-bit Firefox. 64-bit Firefox
didn't become official until v43 or v44 which is not what SM 2.39 is
based on. 2.40 was cancelled. I'm running 2.42 beta myself after
having run 2.41 for a while. 2.42 is based on FF 45.0. 2.41 is based
on FF 44.0. You'll be waiting until you're old and grey before the
build system is fixed. You can run the ones from ~akalla as they're
the closest thing to release you will get presently.


I am old and grey! Does that mean I'll have to wait until I'm dead and 
buried (or in my case dissected by med students) before the build system 
is fixed. ;)


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Re: Browser slow

2016-02-13 Thread mozilla-lists . mbourne 

Ray_Net wrote:

Thee Chicago Wolf (MVP) wrote on 12/02/2016 14:49:

On Fri, 12 Feb 2016 06:29:46 -0500, "G. Ross" 
wrote:

How do you tell if 32 or 64 bit?  My computer is 64 but only saw one
version of 2.39 and installed it.  Note:  I am 75 and my brain is 2 bit.

Sure, it's easy. If you click Help > About Seamonkey, you'll see the
(Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:45.0) part.

If yours is 32-bit, I think it will say WOW64 instead of Win64; x64.

I am under 32 bits and my "help"-"about" did not show WOW64 . here
it is:
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:41.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/41.0 SeaMonkey/2.38


Are you running your 32-bit SeaMonkey on 32-bit Windows? If so, you 
wouldn't have WOW64 (G. Ross had already said he has a 64-bit system, so 
I guess Thee Chicago Wolf was only giving details relevant to that case).


"WoW64" used is for running 32-bit Windows applications on 64-bit 
Windows (WoW=Windows-on-Windows). Hence the rather confusing situation 
on 64-bit Windows that 32-bit libraries go in %SystemRoot%\SysWoW64 
while, for other reasons, 64-bit libraries go in %SystemRoot%\System32 :S


Mark.

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Re: Browser slow

2016-02-13 Thread Ray_Net 

Thee Chicago Wolf (MVP) wrote on 13/02/2016 20:27:

On Fri, 12 Feb 2016 23:47:58 +0100, Ray_Net
 wrote:


Thee Chicago Wolf (MVP) wrote on 12/02/2016 20:41:

On Fri, 12 Feb 2016 10:23:48 -0500, "G. Ross" 
wrote:


Daniel wrote:

On 12/02/16 23:52, Daniel wrote:

On 12/02/16 22:29, G. Ross wrote:

Thee Chicago Wolf (MVP) wrote:

On Wed, 10 Feb 2016 12:36:38 -0500, "G. Ross" 
wrote:


I have used seamonkey since it was mozilla.  It seems to be getting
slower (browser).  Weather.com takes forever to load all it's little
programs and sometimes hangs, for the past month.  Mail and newsgroups
do fine.  I updated to the latest version of Seamonkey with no
appreciable speed-up.  I have Java, NoScript enabled. Flash set to
always ask.

In desperation I tried Internet Exploder for the weather.com and it
pops up almost instantaneously.

Any advice appreciated.

Which version of SM? 32 or 64 bit? I am not finding it being slower
with newer versions. Quite the contrary.

Give this candidate build a whirl and see if it improves your
situation:
https://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~akalla/unofficial/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-release-windows32/




How do you tell if 32 or 64 bit?  My computer is 64 but only saw one
version of 2.39 and installed it.  Note:  I am 75 and my brain is 2 bit.


The "windows32" would indicate, to me, that it's 32 bit. A 64 bit might
have something like "x86_64" in the link!

No!! Of course I'd be wrong!! . Try this one 

https://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~akalla/unofficial/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-aurora-linux64/

And what a goose!! Tonight I'm on Linux, so of course the link I gave
was for Linux!! ;-(

Try
https://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~akalla/unofficial/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-aurora-windows64/


Thank you!  I downloaded the installer.  Still thinking about
installing it.

I'd probably not use an aurora build since it's very alpha. Stick with
release builds if you want stability.

In https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/releases/2.39/  an official
release build ...
I cannot see Win64 - I just see win32

https://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~akalla/unofficial/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-release-windows64/

Where did you see there an OFFICIAL release of SM 2.39 for 64 bits ?
You show always UNofficial versions.
Would you say that SM 64 bits is unofficial ?
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Re: Browser slow

2016-02-13 Thread Daniel 

On 13/02/16 02:37, G. Ross wrote:

G. Ross wrote:

I have used seamonkey since it was mozilla.  It seems to be getting
slower (browser).  Weather.com takes forever to load all it's little
programs and sometimes hangs, for the past month.  Mail and newsgroups
do fine.  I updated to the latest version of Seamonkey with no
appreciable speed-up.  I have Java, NoScript enabled. Flash set to
always ask.

In desperation I tried Internet Exploder for the weather.com and it
pops up almost instantaneously.

Any advice appreciated.


I uninstalled the new Seamonkey and re-installed the old version
(2.26.1) that I had been using and now it loads the weather super fast.
I can't understand it but something fixed it.

Thank you all for taking the time to try to help me.  It's nice to know
that there is a community of users out there willing to spend time
helping an old codger like me.


That's probably because we're a bunch of "old codger's" as well!

SM 2.26.1 is very old (in Internet terms) so you really should look at 
getting a more up-to-date version installed and working!!


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User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:42.0) Gecko/20100101 
SeaMonkey/2.39 Build identifier: 20151028234211

or
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:41.0) Gecko/20100101 
SeaMonkey/2.38 Build identifier: 20150903203501

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Re: Browser slow

2016-02-12 Thread Ray_Net 

Thee Chicago Wolf (MVP) wrote on 12/02/2016 20:41:

On Fri, 12 Feb 2016 10:23:48 -0500, "G. Ross" 
wrote:


Daniel wrote:

On 12/02/16 23:52, Daniel wrote:

On 12/02/16 22:29, G. Ross wrote:

Thee Chicago Wolf (MVP) wrote:

On Wed, 10 Feb 2016 12:36:38 -0500, "G. Ross" 
wrote:


I have used seamonkey since it was mozilla.  It seems to be getting
slower (browser).  Weather.com takes forever to load all it's little
programs and sometimes hangs, for the past month.  Mail and newsgroups
do fine.  I updated to the latest version of Seamonkey with no
appreciable speed-up.  I have Java, NoScript enabled. Flash set to
always ask.

In desperation I tried Internet Exploder for the weather.com and it
pops up almost instantaneously.

Any advice appreciated.

Which version of SM? 32 or 64 bit? I am not finding it being slower
with newer versions. Quite the contrary.

Give this candidate build a whirl and see if it improves your
situation:
https://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~akalla/unofficial/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-release-windows32/




How do you tell if 32 or 64 bit?  My computer is 64 but only saw one
version of 2.39 and installed it.  Note:  I am 75 and my brain is 2 bit.


The "windows32" would indicate, to me, that it's 32 bit. A 64 bit might
have something like "x86_64" in the link!

No!! Of course I'd be wrong!! . Try this one 

https://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~akalla/unofficial/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-aurora-linux64/

And what a goose!! Tonight I'm on Linux, so of course the link I gave
was for Linux!! ;-(

Try
https://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~akalla/unofficial/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-aurora-windows64/


Thank you!  I downloaded the installer.  Still thinking about
installing it.

I'd probably not use an aurora build since it's very alpha. Stick with
release builds if you want stability.
In https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/releases/2.39/  an official 
release build ...

I cannot see Win64 - I just see win32
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Re: Browser slow

2016-02-12 Thread Ray_Net 

Thee Chicago Wolf (MVP) wrote on 12/02/2016 14:49:

On Fri, 12 Feb 2016 06:29:46 -0500, "G. Ross" 
wrote:


Thee Chicago Wolf (MVP) wrote:

On Wed, 10 Feb 2016 12:36:38 -0500, "G. Ross" 
wrote:


I have used seamonkey since it was mozilla.  It seems to be getting
slower (browser).  Weather.com takes forever to load all it's little
programs and sometimes hangs, for the past month.  Mail and newsgroups
do fine.  I updated to the latest version of Seamonkey with no
appreciable speed-up.  I have Java, NoScript enabled. Flash set to
always ask.

In desperation I tried Internet Exploder for the weather.com and it
pops up almost instantaneously.

Any advice appreciated.

Which version of SM? 32 or 64 bit? I am not finding it being slower
with newer versions. Quite the contrary.

Give this candidate build a whirl and see if it improves your
situation:
https://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~akalla/unofficial/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-release-windows32/


How do you tell if 32 or 64 bit?  My computer is 64 but only saw one
version of 2.39 and installed it.  Note:  I am 75 and my brain is 2 bit.

Sure, it's easy. If you click Help > About Seamonkey, you'll see the
(Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:45.0) part.

If yours is 32-bit, I think it will say WOW64 instead of Win64; x64.
I am under 32 bits and my "help"-"about" did not show WOW64 . here 
it is:
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:41.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/41.0 SeaMonkey/2.38

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Re: Browser slow

2016-02-12 Thread G. Ross 

G. Ross wrote:

I have used seamonkey since it was mozilla.  It seems to be getting
slower (browser).  Weather.com takes forever to load all it's little
programs and sometimes hangs, for the past month.  Mail and newsgroups
do fine.  I updated to the latest version of Seamonkey with no
appreciable speed-up.  I have Java, NoScript enabled. Flash set to
always ask.

In desperation I tried Internet Exploder for the weather.com and it
pops up almost instantaneously.

Any advice appreciated.

I uninstalled the new Seamonkey and re-installed the old version 
(2.26.1) that I had been using and now it loads the weather super 
fast.  I can't understand it but something fixed it.


Thank you all for taking the time to try to help me.  It's nice to 
know that there is a community of users out there willing to spend 
time helping an old codger like me.


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Re: Browser slow

2016-02-12 Thread G. Ross 

Thee Chicago Wolf (MVP) wrote:

On Fri, 12 Feb 2016 06:29:46 -0500, "G. Ross" 
wrote:


Thee Chicago Wolf (MVP) wrote:

On Wed, 10 Feb 2016 12:36:38 -0500, "G. Ross" 
wrote:


I have used seamonkey since it was mozilla.  It seems to be getting
slower (browser).  Weather.com takes forever to load all it's little
programs and sometimes hangs, for the past month.  Mail and newsgroups
do fine.  I updated to the latest version of Seamonkey with no
appreciable speed-up.  I have Java, NoScript enabled. Flash set to
always ask.

In desperation I tried Internet Exploder for the weather.com and it
pops up almost instantaneously.

Any advice appreciated.


Which version of SM? 32 or 64 bit? I am not finding it being slower
with newer versions. Quite the contrary.

Give this candidate build a whirl and see if it improves your
situation:
https://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~akalla/unofficial/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-release-windows32/


How do you tell if 32 or 64 bit?  My computer is 64 but only saw one
version of 2.39 and installed it.  Note:  I am 75 and my brain is 2 bit.


Sure, it's easy. If you click Help > About Seamonkey, you'll see the
(Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:45.0) part.

If yours is 32-bit, I think it will say WOW64 instead of Win64; x64.


Thanks.  It is the latter.

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Re: Browser slow

2016-02-12 Thread G. Ross 

Daniel wrote:

On 12/02/16 23:52, Daniel wrote:

On 12/02/16 22:29, G. Ross wrote:

Thee Chicago Wolf (MVP) wrote:

On Wed, 10 Feb 2016 12:36:38 -0500, "G. Ross" 
wrote:


I have used seamonkey since it was mozilla.  It seems to be getting
slower (browser).  Weather.com takes forever to load all it's little
programs and sometimes hangs, for the past month.  Mail and newsgroups
do fine.  I updated to the latest version of Seamonkey with no
appreciable speed-up.  I have Java, NoScript enabled. Flash set to
always ask.

In desperation I tried Internet Exploder for the weather.com and it
pops up almost instantaneously.

Any advice appreciated.


Which version of SM? 32 or 64 bit? I am not finding it being slower
with newer versions. Quite the contrary.

Give this candidate build a whirl and see if it improves your
situation:
https://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~akalla/unofficial/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-release-windows32/




How do you tell if 32 or 64 bit?  My computer is 64 but only saw one
version of 2.39 and installed it.  Note:  I am 75 and my brain is 2 bit.


The "windows32" would indicate, to me, that it's 32 bit. A 64 bit might
have something like "x86_64" in the link!

No!! Of course I'd be wrong!! . Try this one 

https://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~akalla/unofficial/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-aurora-linux64/


And what a goose!! Tonight I'm on Linux, so of course the link I gave
was for Linux!! ;-(

Try
https://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~akalla/unofficial/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-aurora-windows64/

Thank you!  I downloaded the installer.  Still thinking about 
installing it.


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Re: Browser slow

2016-02-12 Thread Daniel 

On 12/02/16 23:52, Daniel wrote:

On 12/02/16 22:29, G. Ross wrote:

Thee Chicago Wolf (MVP) wrote:

On Wed, 10 Feb 2016 12:36:38 -0500, "G. Ross" 
wrote:


I have used seamonkey since it was mozilla.  It seems to be getting
slower (browser).  Weather.com takes forever to load all it's little
programs and sometimes hangs, for the past month.  Mail and newsgroups
do fine.  I updated to the latest version of Seamonkey with no
appreciable speed-up.  I have Java, NoScript enabled. Flash set to
always ask.

In desperation I tried Internet Exploder for the weather.com and it
pops up almost instantaneously.

Any advice appreciated.


Which version of SM? 32 or 64 bit? I am not finding it being slower
with newer versions. Quite the contrary.

Give this candidate build a whirl and see if it improves your
situation:
https://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~akalla/unofficial/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-release-windows32/




How do you tell if 32 or 64 bit?  My computer is 64 but only saw one
version of 2.39 and installed it.  Note:  I am 75 and my brain is 2 bit.


The "windows32" would indicate, to me, that it's 32 bit. A 64 bit might
have something like "x86_64" in the link!

No!! Of course I'd be wrong!! . Try this one 

https://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~akalla/unofficial/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-aurora-linux64/


And what a goose!! Tonight I'm on Linux, so of course the link I gave 
was for Linux!! ;-(


Try 
https://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~akalla/unofficial/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-aurora-windows64/


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User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:42.0) Gecko/20100101 
SeaMonkey/2.39 Build identifier: 20151028234211

or
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:41.0) Gecko/20100101 
SeaMonkey/2.38 Build identifier: 20150903203501

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Re: Browser slow

2016-02-12 Thread Daniel 

On 12/02/16 22:29, G. Ross wrote:

Thee Chicago Wolf (MVP) wrote:

On Wed, 10 Feb 2016 12:36:38 -0500, "G. Ross" 
wrote:


I have used seamonkey since it was mozilla.  It seems to be getting
slower (browser).  Weather.com takes forever to load all it's little
programs and sometimes hangs, for the past month.  Mail and newsgroups
do fine.  I updated to the latest version of Seamonkey with no
appreciable speed-up.  I have Java, NoScript enabled. Flash set to
always ask.

In desperation I tried Internet Exploder for the weather.com and it
pops up almost instantaneously.

Any advice appreciated.


Which version of SM? 32 or 64 bit? I am not finding it being slower
with newer versions. Quite the contrary.

Give this candidate build a whirl and see if it improves your
situation:
https://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~akalla/unofficial/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-release-windows32/



How do you tell if 32 or 64 bit?  My computer is 64 but only saw one
version of 2.39 and installed it.  Note:  I am 75 and my brain is 2 bit.

The "windows32" would indicate, to me, that it's 32 bit. A 64 bit might 
have something like "x86_64" in the link!


No!! Of course I'd be wrong!! . Try this one 

https://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~akalla/unofficial/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-aurora-linux64/

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User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:42.0) Gecko/20100101 
SeaMonkey/2.39 Build identifier: 20151028234211

or
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:41.0) Gecko/20100101 
SeaMonkey/2.38 Build identifier: 20150903203501

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Re: Browser slow

2016-02-12 Thread G. Ross 

Thee Chicago Wolf (MVP) wrote:

On Wed, 10 Feb 2016 12:36:38 -0500, "G. Ross" 
wrote:


I have used seamonkey since it was mozilla.  It seems to be getting
slower (browser).  Weather.com takes forever to load all it's little
programs and sometimes hangs, for the past month.  Mail and newsgroups
do fine.  I updated to the latest version of Seamonkey with no
appreciable speed-up.  I have Java, NoScript enabled. Flash set to
always ask.

In desperation I tried Internet Exploder for the weather.com and it
pops up almost instantaneously.

Any advice appreciated.


Which version of SM? 32 or 64 bit? I am not finding it being slower
with newer versions. Quite the contrary.

Give this candidate build a whirl and see if it improves your
situation:
https://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~akalla/unofficial/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-release-windows32/

How do you tell if 32 or 64 bit?  My computer is 64 but only saw one 
version of 2.39 and installed it.  Note:  I am 75 and my brain is 2 bit.


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Re: Browser slow

2016-02-10 Thread Ed Mullen 

G. Ross wrote on 2/10/2016 4:43 PM:

Ed Mullen wrote:

G. Ross wrote on 2/10/2016 12:36 PM:

I have used seamonkey since it was mozilla.  It seems to be getting
slower (browser).  Weather.com takes forever to load all it's little
programs and sometimes hangs, for the past month.  Mail and newsgroups
do fine.  I updated to the latest version of Seamonkey with no
appreciable speed-up.  I have Java, NoScript enabled. Flash set to
always ask.

In desperation I tried Internet Exploder for the weather.com and it pops
up almost instantaneously.

Any advice appreciated.


Try running in Safe Mode and see if there's any difference.


Yes, even slower.


Then it's time to bite the bullet and create a new profile.


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enough of that at home. Apart from the sex, of course." -  Baldrick - 
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Re: Browser slow

2016-02-10 Thread Paul B. Gallagher 

NFN Smith wrote:


G. Ross wrote:

>
>Clear cache and cookies and reload.
>

I cleared the cache and now it times out on weather.com without
loading anything.  It will load other websites.  I chickened out on
clearing cookies.


The only thing you lose by clearing cookies is if you want
persistent authentication from session to session. Personally, I'm
fine with authenticating myself on a new session (especially with
using the Password Manager), but you may prefer not having to do
those logins. I'm doubtful that clearing cookies will clear this
problem, but if you can handle having to authenticate yourself once
to all the sites you log into


Many sites also store user preferences there. For example, when I visit 
weather.com (which BTW loads instantly), SM prompts me with a notice 
that the site wants to know my location. Obviously, different weather 
stories will be of interest if I'm in Boston or Honolulu. Similarly, if 
I visit YouTube and turn off Autoplay, the site saves that pref in a 
cookie so I don't have to keep turning it off every time I view a new 
video. If I clear the cookie, YouTube forgets my preference and resets 
AutoPlay to the default ("on") value. YouTube and many other sites also 
save things like volume settings in cookies, so if I play several 
videos, the second and third ones start at the same 60% volume that I 
chose for the first one instead of the default 100%.


I could go on all night. The point is, there's a lot more to cookies 
than logins and NSA/Google tracking. If the OP tries clearing them, my 
bet is it'll solve his problem because something got corrupted. But I 
won't hold a gun to his head.


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Re: Browser slow

2016-02-10 Thread Chris Ilias 

On 2016-02-10 4:53 PM, G. Ross wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

G. Ross wrote:


I have used seamonkey since it was mozilla.  It seems to be getting
slower (browser).  Weather.com takes forever to load all it's little
programs and sometimes hangs, for the past month.  Mail and newsgroups
do fine.  I updated to the latest version of Seamonkey with no
appreciable speed-up.  I have Java, NoScript enabled. Flash set to
always ask.

In desperation I tried Internet Exploder for the weather.com and it pops
up almost instantaneously.

Any advice appreciated.


Clear cache and cookies and reload.


I cleared the cache and now it times out on weather.com without loading
anything.  It will load other websites.  I chickened out on clearing
cookies.

Thanks for the suggestions. I guess I will continue to use SM for
everything except for the weather.  My wife uses the same version of SM
and gets the weather fine.


My guess right now is that a firewall or anti-virus program is causing 
sites to load slowly.


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Re: Browser slow

2016-02-10 Thread NFN Smith 

G. Ross wrote:

>
>Clear cache and cookies and reload.
>

I cleared the cache and now it times out on weather.com without
loading anything.  It will load other websites.  I chickened out on
clearing cookies.


The only thing you lose by clearing cookies is if you want persistent 
authentication from session to session. Personally, I'm fine with 
authenticating myself on a new session (especially with using the 
Password Manager), but you may prefer not having to do those logins. I'm 
doubtful that clearing cookies will clear this problem, but if you can 
handle having to authenticate yourself once to all the sites you log 
into


Are you seeing slowness in other applications (especially if Seamonkey 
isn't running)? If you're seeing no apparent improvement in Safe Mode 
(and it's also worth seeing how things behave with a different profile), 
it may be that Seamonkey is not the problem, but what's showing the 
symptoms of something else.


Over the last couple of years, I've seen several computers with chronic 
slowness issues (and nothing that could be attributed to tuning issues). 
In each case, I found that when I ran a tool that checked the SMART 
status of the hard drive, I got a report of relocated sectors.


If that happens, then that's indication of a hard drive that's in the 
process of failing, and you want to get the drive replaced.


The tool that I most often use to check SMART status is Crystal Disk 
Info, but I discovered recently that recent updates in Piriform's Recuva 
tool will also check that, as well.


Smith

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Re: Browser slow

2016-02-10 Thread Paul B. Gallagher 

G. Ross wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

G. Ross wrote:


I have used seamonkey since it was mozilla.  It seems to be getting
slower (browser).  Weather.com takes forever to load all it's little
programs and sometimes hangs, for the past month.  Mail and newsgroups
do fine.  I updated to the latest version of Seamonkey with no
appreciable speed-up.  I have Java, NoScript enabled. Flash set to
always ask.

In desperation I tried Internet Exploder for the weather.com and it pops
up almost instantaneously.

Any advice appreciated.


Clear cache and cookies and reload.


I cleared the cache and now it times out on weather.com without loading
anything.  It will load other websites.  I chickened out on clearing
cookies.

Thanks for the suggestions. I guess I will continue to use SM for
everything except for the weather.  My wife uses the same version of SM
and gets the weather fine.


Well, if you're afraid to clear all cookies (don't wanna annoy Big 
Brother?), go into the Cookie Manager and clear the weather.com cookies. 
You can always enter your zip code and mother's maiden name the next 
time you visit.


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Re: Browser slow

2016-02-10 Thread G. Ross 

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

G. Ross wrote:


I have used seamonkey since it was mozilla.  It seems to be getting
slower (browser).  Weather.com takes forever to load all it's little
programs and sometimes hangs, for the past month.  Mail and newsgroups
do fine.  I updated to the latest version of Seamonkey with no
appreciable speed-up.  I have Java, NoScript enabled. Flash set to
always ask.

In desperation I tried Internet Exploder for the weather.com and it pops
up almost instantaneously.

Any advice appreciated.


Clear cache and cookies and reload.

I cleared the cache and now it times out on weather.com without 
loading anything.  It will load other websites.  I chickened out on 
clearing cookies.


Thanks for the suggestions. I guess I will continue to use SM for 
everything except for the weather.  My wife uses the same version of 
SM and gets the weather fine.


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Re: Browser slow

2016-02-10 Thread G. Ross 

Ed Mullen wrote:

G. Ross wrote on 2/10/2016 12:36 PM:

I have used seamonkey since it was mozilla.  It seems to be getting
slower (browser).  Weather.com takes forever to load all it's little
programs and sometimes hangs, for the past month.  Mail and newsgroups
do fine.  I updated to the latest version of Seamonkey with no
appreciable speed-up.  I have Java, NoScript enabled. Flash set to
always ask.

In desperation I tried Internet Exploder for the weather.com and it pops
up almost instantaneously.

Any advice appreciated.


Try running in Safe Mode and see if there's any difference.


Yes, even slower.

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Re: Browser slow

2016-02-10 Thread Paul B. Gallagher 

G. Ross wrote:


I have used seamonkey since it was mozilla.  It seems to be getting
slower (browser).  Weather.com takes forever to load all it's little
programs and sometimes hangs, for the past month.  Mail and newsgroups
do fine.  I updated to the latest version of Seamonkey with no
appreciable speed-up.  I have Java, NoScript enabled. Flash set to
always ask.

In desperation I tried Internet Exploder for the weather.com and it pops
up almost instantaneously.

Any advice appreciated.


Clear cache and cookies and reload.

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Re: Browser slow

2016-02-10 Thread Ed Mullen 

G. Ross wrote on 2/10/2016 12:36 PM:

I have used seamonkey since it was mozilla.  It seems to be getting
slower (browser).  Weather.com takes forever to load all it's little
programs and sometimes hangs, for the past month.  Mail and newsgroups
do fine.  I updated to the latest version of Seamonkey with no
appreciable speed-up.  I have Java, NoScript enabled. Flash set to
always ask.

In desperation I tried Internet Exploder for the weather.com and it pops
up almost instantaneously.

Any advice appreciated.


Try running in Safe Mode and see if there's any difference.

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Browser slow

2016-02-10 Thread G. Ross 
I have used seamonkey since it was mozilla.  It seems to be getting 
slower (browser).  Weather.com takes forever to load all it's little 
programs and sometimes hangs, for the past month.  Mail and newsgroups 
do fine.  I updated to the latest version of Seamonkey with no 
appreciable speed-up.  I have Java, NoScript enabled. Flash set to 
always ask.


In desperation I tried Internet Exploder for the weather.com and it 
pops up almost instantaneously.


Any advice appreciated.
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