Re: Can the profile of T-Bird be used by Seamonkey?
Ed Mullen e...@edmullen.net wrote: By default the program (app) and profile are installed in different locations. You can change, even uninstall, the app without touching the profile data. That said, a system failure could damage one or both locations. Hence, have good regular system backups. I do daily disk images of the drives on my systems. It's saved my rear a number of times. Normally when the profile is lost after an update or other change it is not really lost, it only is no longer correctly linked. Because of the silly random name, it has to be correctly linked via a profiles.ini file that contains the actual name of the profile. When that file is lost and re-created, the profile appears lost but really isn't. I always replace the profiles.ini by a file that has a fixed name for the profile. That way it is easier to write scripts that do maintenance on the profile, either locally on the computer or on the server where roaming profiles are stored. And the profile is not so easily lost. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Can the profile of T-Bird be used by Seamonkey?
On 01/01/14 22:01, Peter Taylor wrote: On 1/1/2014 7:52 AM, Daniel wrote: On 01/01/14 05:13, Mike C wrote: Peter Taylor wrote: On 12/31/2013 6:40 PM, Chris Ilias wrote: On 12/31/2013, 10:31 AM, Peter Taylor wrote: On 12/30/2013 10:07 PM, Ed Mullen wrote: Peter Taylor wrote: I want to use T-Bird for emails other than what it is using now so I want to know if I copy the contents of TB's profile and paste them into Seamonkey's profile will it work or is there a better way to do it? Not exactly sure what you want to accomplish. A SeaMonkey profile contains settings for things (browser, chat, e.g.) that don't exist in Tbird so using a TB profile in SM makes no sense. You could transfer your mail folders/files from TB to SM but it sounds like you want to set up new accounts in SM??? You'll need to clarify what you want to accomplish. I want Seamonkey Mail to have the mail, accounts, address book, etc. of TBird. Can I just use the import feature in Seamonkey mail? Also, how would I back up Seamonkey mail? Would I have to back up all of Seamonkey? This article should help: http://seamonkey.ilias.ca/profilefaq/#fromFxTb That's pretty complicated. It's too bad the Seamonkey import function won't do it. This would work perfectly for SM back up (MozBackup). You can choose which part of SM you wish to back up. http://mozbackup.jasnapaka.com/ MozBackup is compatible with: Firefox 1.0 or newer Thunderbird 1.0 or newer Sunbird 0.3 - 0.9 Flock 1.0 - 2.6 Postbox (Express) 1.0 or newer SeaMonkey 1.0a or newer Mozilla Suite 1.7 - 1.7.x Spicebird 0.4 - 0.8 Songbird 1.0 or newer Netscape 7.x, 9.x Wyzo This program is freeware (even for commercial use) and works on Windows 98/ME/NT/2000/XP/2003/Vista/7. Mike, if I read between the OP's lines, he might want to use SM to replace both TB and FF. If he goes the Mozbackup route, will not this result in him having a TB prefs.js *or* a FF prefs.js in his SM profile. i.e. when un-Mozbackup'ing the two profiles into the one profile, he will end up with an incomplete prefs.js?? I want to replace TB with Seamonkey mail. I don't want to do anything with FF. IOW, I would like what I have in TB to be in Seamonkey because I want to use TB for other email accounts. Thanks for the clarification, Peter. In that case, Mike's suggestion to use MozBackup should work fine. -- Daniel Seasons Greetings to one and all!! User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:26.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/26.0 SeaMonkey/2.23 Build identifier: 20131203183810 or User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:25.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/25.0 SeaMonkey/2.22 Build identifier: 20131023190942 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Can the profile of T-Bird be used by Seamonkey?
On 1/1/2014 12:02 AM, Ray Davison wrote: Chris Ilias wrote: I want Seamonkey Mail to have the mail, accounts, address book, etc. of TBird. Can I just use the import feature in Seamonkey mail? Also, how would I back up Seamonkey mail? Would I have to back up all of Seamonkey? SM and TB can share the same mail files. Copy the mail files that you want to use to a neutral location. Then in mail account setup point SM and TB to those files. Then any recent versions of either SM or TB can use those files, no not at the same time. Ray I don't want to share; I want to move what's in TB to SeaMonkey Mail. -- Peter Taylor ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Can the profile of T-Bird be used by Seamonkey?
On 1/1/2014 7:52 AM, Daniel wrote: On 01/01/14 05:13, Mike C wrote: Peter Taylor wrote: On 12/31/2013 6:40 PM, Chris Ilias wrote: On 12/31/2013, 10:31 AM, Peter Taylor wrote: On 12/30/2013 10:07 PM, Ed Mullen wrote: Peter Taylor wrote: I want to use T-Bird for emails other than what it is using now so I want to know if I copy the contents of TB's profile and paste them into Seamonkey's profile will it work or is there a better way to do it? Not exactly sure what you want to accomplish. A SeaMonkey profile contains settings for things (browser, chat, e.g.) that don't exist in Tbird so using a TB profile in SM makes no sense. You could transfer your mail folders/files from TB to SM but it sounds like you want to set up new accounts in SM??? You'll need to clarify what you want to accomplish. I want Seamonkey Mail to have the mail, accounts, address book, etc. of TBird. Can I just use the import feature in Seamonkey mail? Also, how would I back up Seamonkey mail? Would I have to back up all of Seamonkey? This article should help: http://seamonkey.ilias.ca/profilefaq/#fromFxTb That's pretty complicated. It's too bad the Seamonkey import function won't do it. This would work perfectly for SM back up (MozBackup). You can choose which part of SM you wish to back up. http://mozbackup.jasnapaka.com/ MozBackup is compatible with: Firefox 1.0 or newer Thunderbird 1.0 or newer Sunbird 0.3 - 0.9 Flock 1.0 - 2.6 Postbox (Express) 1.0 or newer SeaMonkey 1.0a or newer Mozilla Suite 1.7 - 1.7.x Spicebird 0.4 - 0.8 Songbird 1.0 or newer Netscape 7.x, 9.x Wyzo This program is freeware (even for commercial use) and works on Windows 98/ME/NT/2000/XP/2003/Vista/7. Mike, if I read between the OP's lines, he might want to use SM to replace both TB and FF. If he goes the Mozbackup route, will not this result in him having a TB prefs.js *or* a FF prefs.js in his SM profile. i.e. when un-Mozbackup'ing the two profiles into the one profile, he will end up with an incomplete prefs.js?? I want to replace TB with Seamonkey mail. I don't want to do anything with FF. IOW, I would like what I have in TB to be in Seamonkey because I want to use TB for other email accounts. -- Peter Taylor ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Can the profile of T-Bird be used by Seamonkey?
Peter Taylor wrote: I don't want to share; I want to move what's in TB to SeaMonkey Mail. You are missing my point. Mail is data. It doesn't belong to TB or SM, it was just created and used by them. So just put it anywhere you want, and use is with either TB or SM. If you never want to use TB again the data won't care. And as a bonus, by having the data/mail in a neutral location, away from the profile, it will never be lost due to some change in some other part of the app. Ray ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Can the profile of T-Bird be used by Seamonkey?
Ray Davison wrote: Peter Taylor wrote: I don't want to share; I want to move what's in TB to SeaMonkey Mail. You are missing my point. Mail is data. It doesn't belong to TB or SM, it was just created and used by them. So just put it anywhere you want, and use is with either TB or SM. If you never want to use TB again the data won't care. And as a bonus, by having the data/mail in a neutral location, away from the profile, it will never be lost due to some change in some other part of the app. Ray By default the program (app) and profile are installed in different locations. You can change, even uninstall, the app without touching the profile data. That said, a system failure could damage one or both locations. Hence, have good regular system backups. I do daily disk images of the drives on my systems. It's saved my rear a number of times. -- Ed Mullen http://edmullen.net/ Is sloppiness in speech caused by ignorance or apathy? I don't know and I don't care. - William Safire ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Can the profile of T-Bird be used by Seamonkey?
Ed Mullen wrote: And as a bonus, by having the data/mail in a neutral location, away from the profile, it will never be lost due to some change in some other part of the app. That said, a system failure could damage one or both locations. Hence, have good regular system backups. My lost reference is not related to system failure but rather the often complaint of lost mail usually after an app update. And as for backups of Mozilla data, keep it simple, copy works fine. Ray ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Can the profile of T-Bird be used by Seamonkey?
On 12/31/2013, 10:31 AM, Peter Taylor wrote: On 12/30/2013 10:07 PM, Ed Mullen wrote: Peter Taylor wrote: I want to use T-Bird for emails other than what it is using now so I want to know if I copy the contents of TB's profile and paste them into Seamonkey's profile will it work or is there a better way to do it? Not exactly sure what you want to accomplish. A SeaMonkey profile contains settings for things (browser, chat, e.g.) that don't exist in Tbird so using a TB profile in SM makes no sense. You could transfer your mail folders/files from TB to SM but it sounds like you want to set up new accounts in SM??? You'll need to clarify what you want to accomplish. I want Seamonkey Mail to have the mail, accounts, address book, etc. of TBird. Can I just use the import feature in Seamonkey mail? Also, how would I back up Seamonkey mail? Would I have to back up all of Seamonkey? This article should help: http://seamonkey.ilias.ca/profilefaq/#fromFxTb -- Chris Ilias http://ilias.ca Newsgroup moderator ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Can the profile of T-Bird be used by Seamonkey?
On 12/31/2013 6:40 PM, Chris Ilias wrote: On 12/31/2013, 10:31 AM, Peter Taylor wrote: On 12/30/2013 10:07 PM, Ed Mullen wrote: Peter Taylor wrote: I want to use T-Bird for emails other than what it is using now so I want to know if I copy the contents of TB's profile and paste them into Seamonkey's profile will it work or is there a better way to do it? Not exactly sure what you want to accomplish. A SeaMonkey profile contains settings for things (browser, chat, e.g.) that don't exist in Tbird so using a TB profile in SM makes no sense. You could transfer your mail folders/files from TB to SM but it sounds like you want to set up new accounts in SM??? You'll need to clarify what you want to accomplish. I want Seamonkey Mail to have the mail, accounts, address book, etc. of TBird. Can I just use the import feature in Seamonkey mail? Also, how would I back up Seamonkey mail? Would I have to back up all of Seamonkey? This article should help: http://seamonkey.ilias.ca/profilefaq/#fromFxTb That's pretty complicated. It's too bad the Seamonkey import function won't do it. -- Peter Taylor ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Can the profile of T-Bird be used by Seamonkey?
Peter Taylor wrote: On 12/31/2013 6:40 PM, Chris Ilias wrote: On 12/31/2013, 10:31 AM, Peter Taylor wrote: On 12/30/2013 10:07 PM, Ed Mullen wrote: Peter Taylor wrote: I want to use T-Bird for emails other than what it is using now so I want to know if I copy the contents of TB's profile and paste them into Seamonkey's profile will it work or is there a better way to do it? Not exactly sure what you want to accomplish. A SeaMonkey profile contains settings for things (browser, chat, e.g.) that don't exist in Tbird so using a TB profile in SM makes no sense. You could transfer your mail folders/files from TB to SM but it sounds like you want to set up new accounts in SM??? You'll need to clarify what you want to accomplish. I want Seamonkey Mail to have the mail, accounts, address book, etc. of TBird. Can I just use the import feature in Seamonkey mail? Also, how would I back up Seamonkey mail? Would I have to back up all of Seamonkey? This article should help: http://seamonkey.ilias.ca/profilefaq/#fromFxTb That's pretty complicated. It's too bad the Seamonkey import function won't do it. This would work perfectly for SM back up (MozBackup). You can choose which part of SM you wish to back up. http://mozbackup.jasnapaka.com/ MozBackup is compatible with: Firefox 1.0 or newer Thunderbird 1.0 or newer Sunbird 0.3 - 0.9 Flock 1.0 - 2.6 Postbox (Express) 1.0 or newer SeaMonkey 1.0a or newer Mozilla Suite 1.7 - 1.7.x Spicebird 0.4 - 0.8 Songbird 1.0 or newer Netscape 7.x, 9.x Wyzo This program is freeware (even for commercial use) and works on Windows 98/ME/NT/2000/XP/2003/Vista/7. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Can the profile of T-Bird be used by Seamonkey?
RM decreed, Read These Runes!: Chris Ilias decreed, Read These Runes!: On 12/31/2013, 10:31 AM, Peter Taylor wrote: On 12/30/2013 10:07 PM, Ed Mullen wrote: Peter Taylor wrote: I want to use T-Bird for emails other than what it is using now so I want to know if I copy the contents of TB's profile and paste them into Seamonkey's profile will it work or is there a better way to do it? Not exactly sure what you want to accomplish. A SeaMonkey profile contains settings for things (browser, chat, e.g.) that don't exist in Tbird so using a TB profile in SM makes no sense. You could transfer your mail folders/files from TB to SM but it sounds like you want to set up new accounts in SM??? You'll need to clarify what you want to accomplish. I want Seamonkey Mail to have the mail, accounts, address book, etc. of TBird. Can I just use the import feature in Seamonkey mail? Also, how would I back up Seamonkey mail? Would I have to back up all of Seamonkey? This article should help: http://seamonkey.ilias.ca/profilefaq/#fromFxTb Link gives me a blank page. View Page Source also blank. Apparently a DNS issue here: Sorry 'seamonkey.ilias.ca profilefaq fromFxTb' does not exist or is not available. -- Reporter (to Mahatma Gandhi): Mr Gandhi, what do you think of Western Civilization? Gandhi: I think it would be a good idea. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Can the profile of T-Bird be used by Seamonkey?
Chris Ilias decreed, Read These Runes!: On 12/31/2013, 10:31 AM, Peter Taylor wrote: On 12/30/2013 10:07 PM, Ed Mullen wrote: Peter Taylor wrote: I want to use T-Bird for emails other than what it is using now so I want to know if I copy the contents of TB's profile and paste them into Seamonkey's profile will it work or is there a better way to do it? Not exactly sure what you want to accomplish. A SeaMonkey profile contains settings for things (browser, chat, e.g.) that don't exist in Tbird so using a TB profile in SM makes no sense. You could transfer your mail folders/files from TB to SM but it sounds like you want to set up new accounts in SM??? You'll need to clarify what you want to accomplish. I want Seamonkey Mail to have the mail, accounts, address book, etc. of TBird. Can I just use the import feature in Seamonkey mail? Also, how would I back up Seamonkey mail? Would I have to back up all of Seamonkey? This article should help: http://seamonkey.ilias.ca/profilefaq/#fromFxTb Link gives me a blank page. View Page Source also blank. -- Heisenberg may have slept here ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Can the profile of T-Bird be used by Seamonkey?
Chris Ilias wrote: I want Seamonkey Mail to have the mail, accounts, address book, etc. of TBird. Can I just use the import feature in Seamonkey mail? Also, how would I back up Seamonkey mail? Would I have to back up all of Seamonkey? SM and TB can share the same mail files. Copy the mail files that you want to use to a neutral location. Then in mail account setup point SM and TB to those files. Then any recent versions of either SM or TB can use those files, no not at the same time. Ray ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Can the profile of T-Bird be used by Seamonkey?
On 01/01/14 05:13, Mike C wrote: Peter Taylor wrote: On 12/31/2013 6:40 PM, Chris Ilias wrote: On 12/31/2013, 10:31 AM, Peter Taylor wrote: On 12/30/2013 10:07 PM, Ed Mullen wrote: Peter Taylor wrote: I want to use T-Bird for emails other than what it is using now so I want to know if I copy the contents of TB's profile and paste them into Seamonkey's profile will it work or is there a better way to do it? Not exactly sure what you want to accomplish. A SeaMonkey profile contains settings for things (browser, chat, e.g.) that don't exist in Tbird so using a TB profile in SM makes no sense. You could transfer your mail folders/files from TB to SM but it sounds like you want to set up new accounts in SM??? You'll need to clarify what you want to accomplish. I want Seamonkey Mail to have the mail, accounts, address book, etc. of TBird. Can I just use the import feature in Seamonkey mail? Also, how would I back up Seamonkey mail? Would I have to back up all of Seamonkey? This article should help: http://seamonkey.ilias.ca/profilefaq/#fromFxTb That's pretty complicated. It's too bad the Seamonkey import function won't do it. This would work perfectly for SM back up (MozBackup). You can choose which part of SM you wish to back up. http://mozbackup.jasnapaka.com/ MozBackup is compatible with: Firefox 1.0 or newer Thunderbird 1.0 or newer Sunbird 0.3 - 0.9 Flock 1.0 - 2.6 Postbox (Express) 1.0 or newer SeaMonkey 1.0a or newer Mozilla Suite 1.7 - 1.7.x Spicebird 0.4 - 0.8 Songbird 1.0 or newer Netscape 7.x, 9.x Wyzo This program is freeware (even for commercial use) and works on Windows 98/ME/NT/2000/XP/2003/Vista/7. Mike, if I read between the OP's lines, he might want to use SM to replace both TB and FF. If he goes the Mozbackup route, will not this result in him having a TB prefs.js *or* a FF prefs.js in his SM profile. i.e. when un-Mozbackup'ing the two profiles into the one profile, he will end up with an incomplete prefs.js?? -- Daniel Seasons Greetings to one and all!! User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:26.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/26.0 SeaMonkey/2.23 Build identifier: 20131203183810 or User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:25.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/25.0 SeaMonkey/2.22 Build identifier: 20131023190942 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
