Re: Extension.rdf modify safely?

2012-05-27 Thread Rickles

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Rickles wrote:


I have been a long-standing user of the Mozilla/SM suite. Current
user/agent string: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120429
Firefox/12.0 SeaMonkey/2.9.1

Since upgrading from 2.7.1 thru 2.8 and now to 2.9.1, I've experienced a
problem with some purchasing thru Amazon.co.uk, most specifically their
MP3 download center. Everything works normally until I go to the
checkout screen--page appears to load with lots of activity messages
flashing at the bottom of the SM browser window, and when the page is
done loading I'm left with a completely blank white page.
...


If you do CTRL-U, do you also get a blank page, or is there content that
SM is failing to display? If the site is sending a blank page, it's not
SM's fault and no amount of fiddling will fix it.

N.B. Some websites have a lot of white space at the beginning of their
code, so you may have to scroll down to find it.

Not a blank page from a code point of view.  The first line of code is 
on line 155, and the last is on 3670, with 8 blank lines after that.


As I pointed out before, the same page works on a different PC with the 
same personal user details as this instance.  Differences: that OS is 
Win7, SM version is 2.7.1.  This PC used to work, until upgrading to 
2.8.  I originally assumed it was just the upgrade as things do break 
from time to time.  But when it carried on into 2.9 & 2.9.1, I started 
digging.

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Re: Extension.rdf modify safely?

2012-05-25 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

Rickles wrote:


I have been a long-standing user of the Mozilla/SM suite. Current
user/agent string: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120429
Firefox/12.0 SeaMonkey/2.9.1

Since upgrading from 2.7.1 thru 2.8 and now to 2.9.1, I've experienced a
problem with some purchasing thru Amazon.co.uk, most specifically their
MP3 download center. Everything works normally until I go to the
checkout screen--page appears to load with lots of activity messages
flashing at the bottom of the SM browser window, and when the page is
done loading I'm left with a completely blank white page.
...


If you do CTRL-U, do you also get a blank page, or is there content that 
SM is failing to display? If the site is sending a blank page, it's not 
SM's fault and no amount of fiddling will fix it.


N.B. Some websites have a lot of white space at the beginning of their 
code, so you may have to scroll down to find it.


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2012-05-25 Thread Lewis Rosenthal
[changing subject to something more appropriate, hoping that it will 
attract more input]


Hi, Rick...

On 05/24/12 04:07 pm, Rickles thus wrote :

Philip Chee wrote:

On Wed, 23 May 2012 20:20:08 +0100, Rickles wrote:

Philip Chee wrote:

On Wed, 23 May 2012 19:13:20 +0100, Rickles wrote:

I have been a long-standing user of the Mozilla/SM suite. Current
user/agent string: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:12.0)
Gecko/20120429
Firefox/12.0 SeaMonkey/2.9.1

Since upgrading from 2.7.1 thru 2.8 and now to 2.9.1, I've
experienced a
problem with some purchasing thru Amazon.co.uk, most specifically
their
MP3 download center. Everything works normally until I go to the
checkout screen--page appears to load with lots of activity messages
flashing at the bottom of the SM browser window, and when the page is
done loading I'm left with a completely blank white page.

On my wife's laptop with exactly the same theme, plugins and
extensions
installed on a Win7 SP1 OS, the same page works as expected. I've
attempted to track down the offending piece of my profile by disabling
all add-on modules and even the internal Chatzilla, DOM Inspector and
Javascript debugger, intending to start turning them back on one at a
time to find the culprit, but it does the same thing no matter what.

I have created a new test profile with nothing extra installed, and it
works. Rather than going thru the (painful!) process of migrating my
profile (yet again, done it a few times since 2.0 came out, lost
things
in the process), I'd like to track down what may be the reason behind
this.





On newer SeaMonkey's extensions.rdf isn't used and is probably a left
over. Look for extensions.sqlite

Phil


Well, THAT was interesting. Shut down SM, copied extensions.sqlite away
from profile folder, deleted original and restarted SM. Had to approve
each single add-on and re-start SM, one add-on at a time. Ultimately got
everything back to normal, but the same faulty behavior persists. I used
to use IETab+, and saw traces of that in the extensions.rdf, which is
why I'd asked about editing that file. But the auto-generation of the
sqlite file either inherited the problem from somewhere else, or I'm
looking in the wrong place.

Anyone got any other ideas?


In my experience, 99% of the time, when a user experiences blank pages, 
it's bad cache or cookies.


Things to check/do:

1. Clear cache. Close SM & verify that the cache tree is empty.
2. Clear cookies. On newer SeaMonkeys, this will be cookies.sqlite. 
Move/rename or delete it - with the browser closed.

3. Check your cookie permissions to ensure that Amazon isn't blocked.
4. Are you using a proxy, either for caching or for privacy (I use 
Privoxy chained to Squid locally, and I have an uplevel proxy on my 
firewall)? Disable *all* proxies.
5. Test in safe mode (not Windows safe mode - if that is your platform - 
but SM safe mode). This *should* work.
6. Disable all add-ons. Sometimes a bad configuration for an extension, 
perhaps leftover from an older install which was upgraded can cause odd 
things; thus, the same add-on on two different systems can behave quite 
differently. You can try re-enabling them one at a time until you hit on 
the culprit.


If none of those suggestions work (and you did mention that a virgin 
profile seems to work on this machine/network, so I'm assuming that 
anything causing this really *is* contained in your profile), then one 
by one (or en masse, if you prefer), move your *.sqlite databases out of 
the profile directory (I guess you can leave addons.sqlite, as you've 
already eliminated that one). Start the profile, and it *should* 
recreate virgin files for you. Then, you can try copying back your old 
ones, one at a time, until you see the problem recur (or, as I 
originally said, just remove one at a time until the problem goes away).


As you're apparently only seeing this on Amazon, I suspect it's a cookie 
permission issue, if not a cache issue.


Good luck!

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Re: Extension.rdf modify safely?

2012-05-25 Thread Lucas Levrel

Le 24 mai 2012, Rickles a écrit :

Well, THAT was interesting.  Shut down SM, copied extensions.sqlite away from 
profile folder, deleted original and restarted SM.  Had to approve each 
single add-on and re-start SM, one add-on at a time.  Ultimately got 
everything back to normal, but the same faulty behavior persists.


If you added back one add-on at a time, you must have seen when the 
behavior reappeared!


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Re: Extension.rdf modify safely?

2012-05-24 Thread Rickles

Philip Chee wrote:

On Wed, 23 May 2012 20:20:08 +0100, Rickles wrote:

Philip Chee wrote:

On Wed, 23 May 2012 19:13:20 +0100, Rickles wrote:

I have been a long-standing user of the Mozilla/SM suite.  Current
user/agent string: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120429
Firefox/12.0 SeaMonkey/2.9.1

Since upgrading from 2.7.1 thru 2.8 and now to 2.9.1, I've experienced a
problem with some purchasing thru Amazon.co.uk, most specifically their
MP3 download center.  Everything works normally until I go to the
checkout screen--page appears to load with lots of activity messages
flashing at the bottom of the SM browser window, and when the page is
done loading I'm left with a completely blank white page.

On my wife's laptop with exactly the same theme, plugins and extensions
installed on a Win7 SP1 OS, the same page works as expected.  I've
attempted to track down the offending piece of my profile by disabling
all add-on modules and even the internal Chatzilla, DOM Inspector and
Javascript debugger, intending to start turning them back on one at a
time to find the culprit, but it does the same thing no matter what.

I have created a new test profile with nothing extra installed, and it
works.  Rather than going thru the (painful!) process of migrating my
profile (yet again, done it a few times since 2.0 came out, lost things
in the process), I'd like to track down what may be the reason behind
this.  Had a look thru all the text-based files in the root of the
'damaged' profile and the one thing I suspect is the extensions.RDF
file--there are instances of info related to extensions that used to
work but have been dropped/uninstalled over time that I want to clear
out.  Can this be done without making the profile unusable?  Or can I
simply delete the file with SM shut down and expect it to rebuild at
next startup?

Or better yet, can anyone recommend a better place to look?


Just delete it. It will be rebuilt.

Phil


Thanks Phil, but no, it didn't rebuild.  I've stopped/restarted SM
several times since deleting the file with SM not running, and it's not
re-creating it.  But even with that file missing, it's not changed the
original problem at all.


On newer SeaMonkey's extensions.rdf isn't used and is probably a left
over. Look for extensions.sqlite

Phil

Well, THAT was interesting.  Shut down SM, copied extensions.sqlite away 
from profile folder, deleted original and restarted SM.  Had to approve 
each single add-on and re-start SM, one add-on at a time.  Ultimately 
got everything back to normal, but the same faulty behavior persists.  I 
used to use IETab+, and saw traces of that in the extensions.rdf, which 
is why I'd asked about editing that file.  But the auto-generation of 
the sqlite file either inherited the problem from somewhere else, or I'm 
looking in the wrong place.


Anyone got any other ideas?
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Re: Extension.rdf modify safely?

2012-05-23 Thread Philip Chee
On Wed, 23 May 2012 20:20:08 +0100, Rickles wrote:
> Philip Chee wrote:
>> On Wed, 23 May 2012 19:13:20 +0100, Rickles wrote:
>>> I have been a long-standing user of the Mozilla/SM suite.  Current
>>> user/agent string: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120429
>>> Firefox/12.0 SeaMonkey/2.9.1
>>>
>>> Since upgrading from 2.7.1 thru 2.8 and now to 2.9.1, I've experienced a
>>> problem with some purchasing thru Amazon.co.uk, most specifically their
>>> MP3 download center.  Everything works normally until I go to the
>>> checkout screen--page appears to load with lots of activity messages
>>> flashing at the bottom of the SM browser window, and when the page is
>>> done loading I'm left with a completely blank white page.
>>>
>>> On my wife's laptop with exactly the same theme, plugins and extensions
>>> installed on a Win7 SP1 OS, the same page works as expected.  I've
>>> attempted to track down the offending piece of my profile by disabling
>>> all add-on modules and even the internal Chatzilla, DOM Inspector and
>>> Javascript debugger, intending to start turning them back on one at a
>>> time to find the culprit, but it does the same thing no matter what.
>>>
>>> I have created a new test profile with nothing extra installed, and it
>>> works.  Rather than going thru the (painful!) process of migrating my
>>> profile (yet again, done it a few times since 2.0 came out, lost things
>>> in the process), I'd like to track down what may be the reason behind
>>> this.  Had a look thru all the text-based files in the root of the
>>> 'damaged' profile and the one thing I suspect is the extensions.RDF
>>> file--there are instances of info related to extensions that used to
>>> work but have been dropped/uninstalled over time that I want to clear
>>> out.  Can this be done without making the profile unusable?  Or can I
>>> simply delete the file with SM shut down and expect it to rebuild at
>>> next startup?
>>>
>>> Or better yet, can anyone recommend a better place to look?
>>
>> Just delete it. It will be rebuilt.
>>
>> Phil
>>
> Thanks Phil, but no, it didn't rebuild.  I've stopped/restarted SM 
> several times since deleting the file with SM not running, and it's not 
> re-creating it.  But even with that file missing, it's not changed the 
> original problem at all.

On newer SeaMonkey's extensions.rdf isn't used and is probably a left
over. Look for extensions.sqlite

Phil

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Re: Extension.rdf modify safely?

2012-05-23 Thread Rickles

Rickles wrote:

Philip Chee wrote:

On Wed, 23 May 2012 19:13:20 +0100, Rickles wrote:

I have been a long-standing user of the Mozilla/SM suite. Current
user/agent string: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120429
Firefox/12.0 SeaMonkey/2.9.1

Since upgrading from 2.7.1 thru 2.8 and now to 2.9.1, I've experienced a
problem with some purchasing thru Amazon.co.uk, most specifically their
MP3 download center. Everything works normally until I go to the
checkout screen--page appears to load with lots of activity messages
flashing at the bottom of the SM browser window, and when the page is
done loading I'm left with a completely blank white page.

On my wife's laptop with exactly the same theme, plugins and extensions
installed on a Win7 SP1 OS, the same page works as expected. I've
attempted to track down the offending piece of my profile by disabling
all add-on modules and even the internal Chatzilla, DOM Inspector and
Javascript debugger, intending to start turning them back on one at a
time to find the culprit, but it does the same thing no matter what.

I have created a new test profile with nothing extra installed, and it
works. Rather than going thru the (painful!) process of migrating my
profile (yet again, done it a few times since 2.0 came out, lost things
in the process), I'd like to track down what may be the reason behind
this. Had a look thru all the text-based files in the root of the
'damaged' profile and the one thing I suspect is the extensions.RDF
file--there are instances of info related to extensions that used to
work but have been dropped/uninstalled over time that I want to clear
out. Can this be done without making the profile unusable? Or can I
simply delete the file with SM shut down and expect it to rebuild at
next startup?

Or better yet, can anyone recommend a better place to look?


Just delete it. It will be rebuilt.

Phil


Thanks Phil, but no, it didn't rebuild. I've stopped/restarted SM
several times since deleting the file with SM not running, and it's not
re-creating it. But even with that file missing, it's not changed the
original problem at all.

And at least one mail extension isn't working now that did before. Maybe
a re-install will fix that. I'll let you know.

Any more?

Next?
The reinstall fixed the mail extension, but the original issue with the 
Amazon site still exists. I can't post a URL 'cause it's inside my 
logged-in shopping session.  Further help suggestions appreciated.

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Re: Extension.rdf modify safely?

2012-05-23 Thread Rickles

Philip Chee wrote:

On Wed, 23 May 2012 19:13:20 +0100, Rickles wrote:

I have been a long-standing user of the Mozilla/SM suite.  Current
user/agent string: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120429
Firefox/12.0 SeaMonkey/2.9.1

Since upgrading from 2.7.1 thru 2.8 and now to 2.9.1, I've experienced a
problem with some purchasing thru Amazon.co.uk, most specifically their
MP3 download center.  Everything works normally until I go to the
checkout screen--page appears to load with lots of activity messages
flashing at the bottom of the SM browser window, and when the page is
done loading I'm left with a completely blank white page.

On my wife's laptop with exactly the same theme, plugins and extensions
installed on a Win7 SP1 OS, the same page works as expected.  I've
attempted to track down the offending piece of my profile by disabling
all add-on modules and even the internal Chatzilla, DOM Inspector and
Javascript debugger, intending to start turning them back on one at a
time to find the culprit, but it does the same thing no matter what.

I have created a new test profile with nothing extra installed, and it
works.  Rather than going thru the (painful!) process of migrating my
profile (yet again, done it a few times since 2.0 came out, lost things
in the process), I'd like to track down what may be the reason behind
this.  Had a look thru all the text-based files in the root of the
'damaged' profile and the one thing I suspect is the extensions.RDF
file--there are instances of info related to extensions that used to
work but have been dropped/uninstalled over time that I want to clear
out.  Can this be done without making the profile unusable?  Or can I
simply delete the file with SM shut down and expect it to rebuild at
next startup?

Or better yet, can anyone recommend a better place to look?


Just delete it. It will be rebuilt.

Phil

Thanks Phil, but no, it didn't rebuild.  I've stopped/restarted SM 
several times since deleting the file with SM not running, and it's not 
re-creating it.  But even with that file missing, it's not changed the 
original problem at all.


And at least one mail extension isn't working now that did before. 
Maybe a re-install will fix that.  I'll let you know.


Any more?

Next?
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Re: Extension.rdf modify safely?

2012-05-23 Thread Philip Chee
On Wed, 23 May 2012 19:13:20 +0100, Rickles wrote:
> I have been a long-standing user of the Mozilla/SM suite.  Current 
> user/agent string: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120429 
> Firefox/12.0 SeaMonkey/2.9.1
> 
> Since upgrading from 2.7.1 thru 2.8 and now to 2.9.1, I've experienced a 
> problem with some purchasing thru Amazon.co.uk, most specifically their 
> MP3 download center.  Everything works normally until I go to the 
> checkout screen--page appears to load with lots of activity messages 
> flashing at the bottom of the SM browser window, and when the page is 
> done loading I'm left with a completely blank white page.
> 
> On my wife's laptop with exactly the same theme, plugins and extensions 
> installed on a Win7 SP1 OS, the same page works as expected.  I've 
> attempted to track down the offending piece of my profile by disabling 
> all add-on modules and even the internal Chatzilla, DOM Inspector and 
> Javascript debugger, intending to start turning them back on one at a 
> time to find the culprit, but it does the same thing no matter what.
> 
> I have created a new test profile with nothing extra installed, and it 
> works.  Rather than going thru the (painful!) process of migrating my 
> profile (yet again, done it a few times since 2.0 came out, lost things 
> in the process), I'd like to track down what may be the reason behind 
> this.  Had a look thru all the text-based files in the root of the 
> 'damaged' profile and the one thing I suspect is the extensions.RDF 
> file--there are instances of info related to extensions that used to 
> work but have been dropped/uninstalled over time that I want to clear 
> out.  Can this be done without making the profile unusable?  Or can I 
> simply delete the file with SM shut down and expect it to rebuild at 
> next startup?
> 
> Or better yet, can anyone recommend a better place to look?

Just delete it. It will be rebuilt.

Phil

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Extension.rdf modify safely?

2012-05-23 Thread Rickles
I have been a long-standing user of the Mozilla/SM suite.  Current 
user/agent string: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120429 
Firefox/12.0 SeaMonkey/2.9.1


Since upgrading from 2.7.1 thru 2.8 and now to 2.9.1, I've experienced a 
problem with some purchasing thru Amazon.co.uk, most specifically their 
MP3 download center.  Everything works normally until I go to the 
checkout screen--page appears to load with lots of activity messages 
flashing at the bottom of the SM browser window, and when the page is 
done loading I'm left with a completely blank white page.


On my wife's laptop with exactly the same theme, plugins and extensions 
installed on a Win7 SP1 OS, the same page works as expected.  I've 
attempted to track down the offending piece of my profile by disabling 
all add-on modules and even the internal Chatzilla, DOM Inspector and 
Javascript debugger, intending to start turning them back on one at a 
time to find the culprit, but it does the same thing no matter what.


I have created a new test profile with nothing extra installed, and it 
works.  Rather than going thru the (painful!) process of migrating my 
profile (yet again, done it a few times since 2.0 came out, lost things 
in the process), I'd like to track down what may be the reason behind 
this.  Had a look thru all the text-based files in the root of the 
'damaged' profile and the one thing I suspect is the extensions.RDF 
file--there are instances of info related to extensions that used to 
work but have been dropped/uninstalled over time that I want to clear 
out.  Can this be done without making the profile unusable?  Or can I 
simply delete the file with SM shut down and expect it to rebuild at 
next startup?


Or better yet, can anyone recommend a better place to look?
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