Re: Image pasted into a mail

[Ray_Net]

Evan Davidson wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

Evan Davidson wrote:

Evan Davidson wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:






I tried Snippy in Vista and it did not work. So XP may be the end of the
road for it. Vista and Windows 7 have their own screen capture snipping
tools ( http://graphicssoft.about.com/od/microsoft/ht/snippingtool.htm )
which work nicely. MWSnap 3 will work with all versions of Windows (
http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/products/?p=1318 ). All of the above
will automatically capture (copy) and paste JPEGs into TB and Seamonkey
mail without having to alter about:config .



Are you sure that the copy action will not insert a /png format into
SeaMonkey ? I have a doubt, because the default in SM is for
clipboard.paste_image_type integer value 1
Looking at
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Clipboard.paste_image_type
tells you: "Prefer PNG over JPEG over GIF"



The "snap" programs (Snipping Tool) and MWSnap3) pasted JPEGs into
Seamonkey Mail. I checked them with ImageZoom (
http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/modifiedmisc.html#imagezoom )Properties and
they were JPEGs. I also also pasted them into Irfanview and they showed
up as JPEGs. My "Clipboard.paste_image_type" was set to the default (1).
As you know, with a setting of "1," if the generated image is a JPEG the
paste will be a JPEG in TB and Seamonkey Mail since a PNG is not
presented to the mail program.

 From http://kb.mozillazine.org/Clipboard.paste_image_type :

-
1

Prefer PNG over JPEG over GIF (this is the default):

1. If PNG is available, paste in PNG format;
2. if PNG is not available but JPEG, paste in JPEG;
3. if neither PNG nor JPEG are available, but GIF, paste in GIF.

Ok, but i prefer continuing to use the simple paint.exe to manipulate a 
PtrnScrn action. Modifying clipboard.paste_image_type with the value of 2
In that case, evenwhile PNG is presented - it is pasted as JPEG (i have 
verified with "view"-"Message Source" and better .. The recipient using 
(not using the latest version of Lotus Notes) Lotus Notes is now able to 
see my paste picture in their mail.

Prefer GIF over JPEG over PNG:

   1. If GIF is available, paste in GIF format;
   2. if GIF is not available but JPEG, paste in JPEG;
   3. if neither GIF nor JPEG are available, but PNG, paste in PNG.
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Re: Image pasted into a mail

[Evan Davidson]

Ray_Net wrote:

Evan Davidson wrote:

Evan Davidson wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:






I tried Snippy in Vista and it did not work. So XP may be the end of the
road for it. Vista and Windows 7 have their own screen capture snipping
tools ( http://graphicssoft.about.com/od/microsoft/ht/snippingtool.htm )
which work nicely. MWSnap 3 will work with all versions of Windows (
http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/products/?p=1318 ). All of the above
will automatically capture (copy) and paste JPEGs into TB and Seamonkey
mail without having to alter about:config .


Are you sure that the copy action will not insert a /png format into 
SeaMonkey ? I have a doubt, because the default in SM is for

clipboard.paste_image_type integer value 1
Looking at
 http://kb.mozillazine.org/Clipboard.paste_image_type
tells you: "Prefer PNG over JPEG over GIF"



The "snap" programs (Snipping Tool) and MWSnap3) pasted JPEGs into 
Seamonkey Mail. I checked them with ImageZoom ( 
http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/modifiedmisc.html#imagezoom )Properties and 
they were JPEGs. I also also pasted them into Irfanview and they showed 
up as JPEGs. My "Clipboard.paste_image_type" was set to the default (1). 
As you know, with a setting of "1," if the generated image is a JPEG the 
paste will be a JPEG in TB and Seamonkey Mail since a PNG is not 
presented to the mail program.


From http://kb.mozillazine.org/Clipboard.paste_image_type :

-
1

Prefer PNG over JPEG over GIF (this is the default):

   1. If PNG is available, paste in PNG format;
   2. if PNG is not available but JPEG, paste in JPEG;
   3. if neither PNG nor JPEG are available, but GIF, paste in GIF.

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Re: Image pasted into a mail

[Ray_Net]

Evan Davidson wrote:

Evan Davidson wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

I have an image in the clipboard ...
and i wrote a mail with:
See my picture !!
(then here i do a paste from the clipboard)

The result is:
See my picture !!
*---*
| |
|  |
| |
*---*


The result is ok for me, but my recipient having Lotus Notes as mail
received:
See my picture !!
*-*
| | <- just an empty square
*-*

I have goggled and discovered that embedded .png file into an HTML
document cannot be rendered with Lotus Notes.


How can i create an embedded picture in a mail for my recipient who
is usinf Lotus Notes ?


See:
news://news.mozilla.org:119/_sydnuornmux7krrnz2dnuvz_osdn...@mozilla.org

It's a image clipboard program called Snippy. It says it only works on
Windows XP but if you read the Microsoft info, it should work on XP
through Windows 7. I have it working on Win 98SE with GDI+ installed.



I tried Snippy in Vista and it did not work. So XP may be the end of the
road for it. Vista and Windows 7 have their own screen capture snipping
tools ( http://graphicssoft.about.com/od/microsoft/ht/snippingtool.htm )
which work nicely. MWSnap 3 will work with all versions of Windows (
http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/products/?p=1318 ). All of the above
will automatically capture (copy) and paste JPEGs into TB and Seamonkey
mail without having to alter about:config .
Are you sure that the copy action will not insert a /png format into 
SeaMonkey ? I have a doubt, because the default in SM is for

clipboard.paste_image_type integer value 1
Looking at
 http://kb.mozillazine.org/Clipboard.paste_image_type
tells you: "Prefer PNG over JPEG over GIF"

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Re: Image pasted into a mail

[Evan Davidson]

Evan Davidson wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

I have an image in the clipboard ...
 and i wrote a mail with:
See my picture !!
(then here i do a paste from the clipboard)

The result is:
See my picture !!
*---*
|   |
||
|   |
*---*


The result is ok for me, but my recipient having Lotus Notes as mail 
received:

See my picture !!
*-*
| |   <- just an empty square
*-*

I have goggled and discovered that embedded .png file into an HTML 
document cannot be rendered with Lotus Notes.



How can i create an embedded picture in a mail for my recipient who is 
usinf Lotus Notes ?


See: 
news://news.mozilla.org:119/_sydnuornmux7krrnz2dnuvz_osdn...@mozilla.org


It's a image clipboard program called Snippy. It says it only works on 
Windows XP but if you read the Microsoft info, it should work on XP 
through Windows 7. I have it working on Win 98SE with GDI+ installed.




I tried Snippy in Vista and it did not work. So XP may be the end of the 
road for it. Vista and Windows 7 have their own screen capture snipping 
tools ( http://graphicssoft.about.com/od/microsoft/ht/snippingtool.htm ) 
which work nicely. MWSnap 3 will work with all versions of Windows ( 
http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/products/?p=1318 ). All of the above 
will automatically capture (copy) and paste JPEGs into TB and Seamonkey 
mail without having to alter about:config .

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[SOLVED] Re: Image pasted into a mail

[Ray_Net]

Ray_Net wrote:

I have an image in the clipboard ...
and i wrote a mail with:
See my picture !!
(then here i do a paste from the clipboard)

The result is:
See my picture !!
*---*
| |
|  |
| |
*---*


The result is ok for me, but my recipient having Lotus Notes as mail
received:
See my picture !!
*-*
| | <- just an empty square
*-*

I have goggled and discovered that embedded .png file into an HTML
document cannot be rendered with Lotus Notes.


How can i create an embedded picture in a mail for my recipient who is
using Lotus Notes ?


Thanks for all who reacted on this post giving ideas, consels, etc ...
The following is to be done because Lotus Notes mail did not recognise a 
/png image before version 8.5.
With "about:config" change clipboard.paste_image_type integer value 2 
instead of 1
 - this action will permit for the image inclusion in the middle of a 
mail(inclusion by a "paste" ctrl-v action)

   to be a type /jpeg instead of the default /png.
All explanation can be found at:
 http://kb.mozillazine.org/Clipboard.paste_image_type

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Re: Image pasted into a mail

[Evan Davidson]

Ray_Net wrote:

I have an image in the clipboard ...
 and i wrote a mail with:
See my picture !!
(then here i do a paste from the clipboard)

The result is:
See my picture !!
*---*
|   |
||
|   |
*---*


The result is ok for me, but my recipient having Lotus Notes as mail 
received:

See my picture !!
*-*
| |   <- just an empty square
*-*

I have goggled and discovered that embedded .png file into an HTML 
document cannot be rendered with Lotus Notes.



How can i create an embedded picture in a mail for my recipient who is 
usinf Lotus Notes ?


See: 
news://news.mozilla.org:119/_sydnuornmux7krrnz2dnuvz_osdn...@mozilla.org


It's a image clipboard program called Snippy. It says it only works on 
Windows XP but if you read the Microsoft info, it should work on XP 
through Windows 7. I have it working on Win 98SE with GDI+ installed.


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Re: Image pasted into a mail

[Ray_Net]

Tony Mechelynck wrote:

On 07/11/10 16:32, jim wrote:

On Sun, 07 Nov 2010 10:48:22 +0100, Tony Mechelynck
 in mozilla.support.seamonkey wrote:


On 07/11/10 09:36, Ray_Net wrote:

Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:

Sun, 07 Nov 2010 08:44:55 +0100, /Ray_Net/:

David E. Ross wrote:


The problem is that, no matter how you obtain the image, it
traverses
the Internet as an attached file separate from the message. Only
when
you compose the message and when the recipient's E-mail application
displays the message does the image file get combined with the
message. Thus, you need an image file when composing the message.


But 1. There is no file ...
2. When embedded in(per example, in the middle of the mail) the mail
there is no visible "file attachement" this is different when i click
on attach-browse-select a file; in this case the file is attached
with
the mail(and not embedded in the mail text).
3. I know that the file or pseudo file is appended at the end of the
mail. Looking at the message source we see a multi-part message with
the message text/plain, the message text/html and the message
image/png
... all those parts are composing the full message.


So just try this and observe there's no difference:

1. While you're composing (in HTML I guess), select Insert -> Image...
and then Choose File... from the file system (rather than pasting an
image from the clipboard);
2. Do you see any difference?


Yes, this is working ... we can insert a jpg file...
but the aim is to "paste" not to insert a file... and this paste insert
a pseudo png file. That's the problem ..Lotus Notes cannot render a png
picture type if the version is before 8.5 and my recipeint cannot
upgrade.
Howevedr as i said before ... i think that i found the solution ...
just
...we have to wait until Wednesday evening.


If you don't have an image-processing program that can convert PNG to
something else, then, if you can display the full PNG image onscreen (if
it isn't too big, that is), try hitting PrtScr then to get a screenshot
of it, probably in JPEG or maybe BMP format. (You may have to "Paste as
New Image" in some image-manipulation software, but at least it ought to
be in some format it understands). Then maybe you can edit that to
remove unneeded stuff around the image, and insert _that_ (and not the
clipboard) as an image file.

Best regards,
Tony.


Tony, as a small piece of now useless knowledge to 99% of the public with
multi-megabit broadband, an MS prtscrn is a BMP image -- meaning it is
ponderously huge, especially when taken from a large display monitor.
(I did a full screen PRTSCRN, which was 1.1meg and converted it to a jpg
which was116kb.)


Apparently I was (for more reasons than I knew) wise to switch to Linux,
where a Print-Sceen screenshot is immediately saved to disk as a… let me
check… a PNG image.



This loose time and mays be disk space if you forgot to remove this 
uneeded file.
Loose time because you cannot paste (just a ctrlV) in the middle of the 
mail, you need to, in the middle of the mail, do Insert - Image - Browse 
,etc ...

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Re: Image pasted into a mail

[Tony Mechelynck]

On 07/11/10 16:32, jim wrote:

On Sun, 07 Nov 2010 10:48:22 +0100, Tony Mechelynck
  in mozilla.support.seamonkey wrote:


On 07/11/10 09:36, Ray_Net wrote:

Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:

Sun, 07 Nov 2010 08:44:55 +0100, /Ray_Net/:

David E. Ross wrote:


The problem is that, no matter how you obtain the image, it traverses
the Internet as an attached file separate from the message. Only when
you compose the message and when the recipient's E-mail application
displays the message does the image file get combined with the
message. Thus, you need an image file when composing the message.


But 1. There is no file ...
2. When embedded in(per example, in the middle of the mail) the mail
there is no visible "file attachement" this is different when i click
on attach-browse-select a file; in this case the file is attached with
the mail(and not embedded in the mail text).
3. I know that the file or pseudo file is appended at the end of the
mail. Looking at the message source we see a multi-part message with
the message text/plain, the message text/html and the message image/png
... all those parts are composing the full message.


So just try this and observe there's no difference:

1. While you're composing (in HTML I guess), select Insert ->  Image...
and then Choose File... from the file system (rather than pasting an
image from the clipboard);
2. Do you see any difference?


Yes, this is working ... we can insert a jpg file...
but the aim is to "paste" not to insert a file... and this paste insert
a pseudo png file. That's the problem ..Lotus Notes cannot render a png
picture type if the version is before 8.5 and my recipeint cannot upgrade.
Howevedr as i said before ... i think that i found the solution ... just
...we have to wait until Wednesday evening.


If you don't have an image-processing program that can convert PNG to
something else, then, if you can display the full PNG image onscreen (if
it isn't too big, that is), try hitting PrtScr then to get a screenshot
of it, probably in JPEG or maybe BMP format. (You may have to "Paste as
New Image" in some image-manipulation software, but at least it ought to
be in some format it understands). Then maybe you can edit that to
remove unneeded stuff around the image, and insert _that_ (and not the
clipboard) as an image file.

Best regards,
Tony.


Tony, as a small piece of now useless knowledge to 99% of the public with
multi-megabit broadband, an MS prtscrn is a BMP image -- meaning it is
ponderously huge, especially when taken from a large display monitor.
(I did a full screen PRTSCRN, which was 1.1meg and converted it to a jpg
which was116kb.)


Apparently I was (for more reasons than I knew) wise to switch to Linux, 
where a Print-Sceen screenshot is immediately saved to disk as a… let me 
check… a PNG image.




Also, and off this topic, I was wondering if the JPG is an offshoot of or
utilizes the old RLE internal tech?  Your thought on that?

jim


My thought of that is, "I don't know".

Best regards,
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Re: Image pasted into a mail

[jim]

On Sat, 06 Nov 2010 17:36:20 +0100, Ray_Net
 in mozilla.support.seamonkey wrote:

>> http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg21090737
>>
>>
>I know that, and i know also that Lotus Notes version 8 accept .png 
>inclusions. The problem is because my recipient cannot upgrade to that 
>version, his pc is "at work" and the company have not decided to upgrade 
>now , for a certain times. so the question si still open:
>How can i create an embedded picture in a mail for my recipient who is
>using Lotus Notes ?

I suppose you could encode it with mime-64 in order to match his tech and
include that as textual data in your message with cut lines and
instructions to decode. 

Oh wait.. :-)
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Re: Image pasted into a mail

[jim]

On Sun, 07 Nov 2010 10:48:22 +0100, Tony Mechelynck
 in mozilla.support.seamonkey wrote:

>On 07/11/10 09:36, Ray_Net wrote:
>> Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:
>>> Sun, 07 Nov 2010 08:44:55 +0100, /Ray_Net/:
 David E. Ross wrote:

> The problem is that, no matter how you obtain the image, it traverses
> the Internet as an attached file separate from the message. Only when
> you compose the message and when the recipient's E-mail application
> displays the message does the image file get combined with the
> message. Thus, you need an image file when composing the message.

 But 1. There is no file ...
 2. When embedded in(per example, in the middle of the mail) the mail
 there is no visible "file attachement" this is different when i click
 on attach-browse-select a file; in this case the file is attached with
 the mail(and not embedded in the mail text).
 3. I know that the file or pseudo file is appended at the end of the
 mail. Looking at the message source we see a multi-part message with
 the message text/plain, the message text/html and the message image/png
 ... all those parts are composing the full message.
>>>
>>> So just try this and observe there's no difference:
>>>
>>> 1. While you're composing (in HTML I guess), select Insert -> Image...
>>> and then Choose File... from the file system (rather than pasting an
>>> image from the clipboard);
>>> 2. Do you see any difference?
>>>
>> Yes, this is working ... we can insert a jpg file...
>> but the aim is to "paste" not to insert a file... and this paste insert
>> a pseudo png file. That's the problem ..Lotus Notes cannot render a png
>> picture type if the version is before 8.5 and my recipeint cannot upgrade.
>> Howevedr as i said before ... i think that i found the solution ... just
>> ...we have to wait until Wednesday evening.
>
>If you don't have an image-processing program that can convert PNG to 
>something else, then, if you can display the full PNG image onscreen (if 
>it isn't too big, that is), try hitting PrtScr then to get a screenshot 
>of it, probably in JPEG or maybe BMP format. (You may have to "Paste as 
>New Image" in some image-manipulation software, but at least it ought to 
>be in some format it understands). Then maybe you can edit that to 
>remove unneeded stuff around the image, and insert _that_ (and not the 
>clipboard) as an image file.
>
>Best regards,
>Tony.

Tony, as a small piece of now useless knowledge to 99% of the public with
multi-megabit broadband, an MS prtscrn is a BMP image -- meaning it is
ponderously huge, especially when taken from a large display monitor.
(I did a full screen PRTSCRN, which was 1.1meg and converted it to a jpg
which was116kb.)

Also, and off this topic, I was wondering if the JPG is an offshoot of or
utilizes the old RLE internal tech?  Your thought on that?

jim
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Re: Image pasted into a mail

[jim]

On Sat, 06 Nov 2010 17:33:06 +0100, Ray_Net
 in mozilla.support.seamonkey wrote:

>Paul wrote:
>> Ray_Net wrote:
>>> I have an image in the clipboard ...
>>> and i wrote a mail with:
>>> See my picture !!
>>> (then here i do a paste from the clipboard)
>>>
>>> The result is:
>>> See my picture !!
>>> *---*
>>> | |
>>> |  |
>>> | |
>>> *---*
>>>
>>>
>>> The result is ok for me, but my recipient having Lotus Notes as mail
>>> received:
>>> See my picture !!
>>> *-*
>>> | | <- just an empty square
>>> *-*
>>>
>>> I have goggled and discovered that embedded .png file into an HTML
>>> document cannot be rendered with Lotus Notes.
>>>
>>>
>>> How can i create an embedded picture in a mail for my recipient who is
>>> usinf Lotus Notes ?
>>
>> Why not just change it into something else?
>> There are hundreds of other formats.
>
>How can i change the format .png when doing "paste" into a mail ?

Obviously you could, but it is unnecessary jumping through hoops to do so
when it is so simple to paste from clipboard.

I would suggest, sight unseen, that his email program does not handle your
image format.

jim

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Re: Image pasted into a mail

[Tony Mechelynck]

On 07/11/10 09:36, Ray_Net wrote:

Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:

Sun, 07 Nov 2010 08:44:55 +0100, /Ray_Net/:

David E. Ross wrote:


The problem is that, no matter how you obtain the image, it traverses
the Internet as an attached file separate from the message. Only when
you compose the message and when the recipient's E-mail application
displays the message does the image file get combined with the
message. Thus, you need an image file when composing the message.


But 1. There is no file ...
2. When embedded in(per example, in the middle of the mail) the mail
there is no visible "file attachement" this is different when i click
on attach-browse-select a file; in this case the file is attached with
the mail(and not embedded in the mail text).
3. I know that the file or pseudo file is appended at the end of the
mail. Looking at the message source we see a multi-part message with
the message text/plain, the message text/html and the message image/png
... all those parts are composing the full message.


So just try this and observe there's no difference:

1. While you're composing (in HTML I guess), select Insert -> Image...
and then Choose File... from the file system (rather than pasting an
image from the clipboard);
2. Do you see any difference?


Yes, this is working ... we can insert a jpg file...
but the aim is to "paste" not to insert a file... and this paste insert
a pseudo png file. That's the problem ..Lotus Notes cannot render a png
picture type if the version is before 8.5 and my recipeint cannot upgrade.
Howevedr as i said before ... i think that i found the solution ... just
...we have to wait until Wednesday evening.


If you don't have an image-processing program that can convert PNG to 
something else, then, if you can display the full PNG image onscreen (if 
it isn't too big, that is), try hitting PrtScr then to get a screenshot 
of it, probably in JPEG or maybe BMP format. (You may have to "Paste as 
New Image" in some image-manipulation software, but at least it ought to 
be in some format it understands). Then maybe you can edit that to 
remove unneeded stuff around the image, and insert _that_ (and not the 
clipboard) as an image file.


Best regards,
Tony.
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it correct, not tried it." -- Donald Knuth
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Re: Image pasted into a mail

[Ray_Net]

Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:

Sun, 07 Nov 2010 08:44:55 +0100, /Ray_Net/:

David E. Ross wrote:


The problem is that, no matter how you obtain the image, it traverses
the Internet as an attached file separate from the message. Only when
you compose the message and when the recipient's E-mail application
displays the message does the image file get combined with the
message. Thus, you need an image file when composing the message.


But 1. There is no file ...
2. When embedded in(per example, in the middle of the mail) the mail
there is no visible "file attachement" this is different when i click
on attach-browse-select a file; in this case the file is attached with
the mail(and not embedded in the mail text).
3. I know that the file or pseudo file is appended at the end of the
mail. Looking at the message source we see a multi-part message with
the message text/plain, the message text/html and the message image/png
... all those parts are composing the full message.


So just try this and observe there's no difference:

1. While you're composing (in HTML I guess), select Insert -> Image...
and then Choose File... from the file system (rather than pasting an
image from the clipboard);
2. Do you see any difference?


Yes, this is working ... we can insert a jpg file...
but the aim is to "paste" not to insert a file... and this paste insert 
a pseudo png file. That's the problem ..Lotus Notes cannot render a png 
picture type if the version is before 8.5 and my recipeint cannot upgrade.
Howevedr as i said before ... i think that i found the solution ... just 
...we have to wait until Wednesday evening.

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Re: Image pasted into a mail

[Stanimir Stamenkov]

Sun, 07 Nov 2010 08:44:55 +0100, /Ray_Net/:

David E. Ross wrote:

The problem is that, no matter how you obtain the image, it traverses 
the Internet as an attached file separate from the message.  Only when
you compose the message and when the recipient's E-mail application 
displays the message does the image file get combined with the 
message.  Thus, you need an image file when composing the message.


But 1. There is no file ...
2. When embedded in(per example, in the middle of the mail) the mail 
there is no visible "file attachement" this is different when i click 
on attach-browse-select a file; in this case the file is attached with 
the mail(and not embedded in the mail text).
3. I know that the file or pseudo file is appended at the end of the 
mail. Looking at the message source we see a multi-part message with 
the message text/plain, the message text/html and the message image/png

... all those parts are composing the full message.


So just try this and observe there's no difference:

1. While you're composing (in HTML I guess), select Insert -> Image... 
and then Choose File... from the file system (rather than pasting an 
image from the clipboard);

2. Do you see any difference?

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Re: Image pasted into a mail

[Tony Mechelynck]

On 07/11/10 08:44, Ray_Net wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 11/6/10 1:54 PM, Ray_Net wrote:

Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:

Sat, 06 Nov 2010 22:37:04 +0100, /Ray_Net/:

Ed Mullen wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:


How can i change the format .png when doing "paste" into a mail ?


You can't. You have to convert the file first, then paste the new
file. If you need a converter program try:

http://irfanview.com/

It's free and very good.


This is *not* a file  it's just a copy/paste of an image, per
example, you press the "PrintScrn" button when what you want to
transfer is on screen.


You could probably first paste in IrfanView and then save in whatever
format you need. You could also paste in Paint and save in one of the
formats it supports.


I understand, but i did not want to put a file in attachement ... i
prefer just a copy/paste ... but as i have said soemwhere else:
I think that i have found the solurion ... i have to wait some days now,
because the recipient will be at work only at wednesday. I will tell you
the result.


The problem is that, no matter how you obtain the image, it traverses
the Internet as an attached file separate from the message. Only when
you compose the message and when the recipient's E-mail application
displays the message does the image file get combined with the message.
Thus, you need an image file when composing the message.


But 1. There is no file ...
2. When embedded in(per example, in the middle of the mail) the mail
there is no visible "file attachement" this is different when i click on
attach-browse-select a file; in this case the file is attached with the
mail(and not embedded in the mail text).
3. I know that the file or pseudo file is appended at the end of the
mail. Looking at the message source we see a multi-part message with the
message text/plain, the message text/html and the message image/png
... all those parts are composing the full message.


Well, in a plaintext mail there's no way you can have an image appear in 
the middle. You may see it at the end, just like you may see a text 
attachment at the end.


In an HTML email, you may see an image in the middle of the text if 
there is an  tag in your HTML source. The src= attribute in that 
tag may be a "relative URL" to an attachment, or the URL of a remote 
image. In the latter case the image is not sent with the email, but 
SeaMonkey will refuse to display it, unless *either* the mail is from 
someone already klnown in your address book, and with "Allow remote 
content" checked, *or* you click "Display remote content" after opening 
the mail. This click only applies for one email, but there is a link to 
create the address book entry if you want to always display remote 
content from this sender.


In every case, the MIME type of the image (as set in the attachment 
header fopr an image sent together with the mail, or as served by the 
remote server for a remote image) must agree with the actual format of 
the image. Renaming "foobar.png" to "foobar" without actually 
translating the image binary content is liable to get the sending mailer 
(for an attachment) or the remote HTTP server (for a remote image) 
mistake it for something other than image/png, with the result that the 
recipient's mailer probably won't be able to display it.



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Re: Image pasted into a mail

[Ray_Net]

David E. Ross wrote:

On 11/6/10 1:54 PM, Ray_Net wrote:

Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:

Sat, 06 Nov 2010 22:37:04 +0100, /Ray_Net/:

Ed Mullen wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:


How can i change the format .png when doing "paste" into a mail ?


You can't. You have to convert the file first, then paste the new
file. If you need a converter program try:

http://irfanview.com/

It's free and very good.


This is *not* a file  it's just a copy/paste of an image, per
example, you press the "PrintScrn" button when what you want to
transfer is on screen.


You could probably first paste in IrfanView and then save in whatever
format you need. You could also paste in Paint and save in one of the
formats it supports.


I understand, but i did not want to put a file in attachement ... i
prefer just a copy/paste ... but as i have said soemwhere else:
I think that i have found the solurion ... i have to wait some days now,
because the recipient will be at work only at wednesday. I will tell you
the result.


The problem is that, no matter how you obtain the image, it traverses
the Internet as an attached file separate from the message.  Only when
you compose the message and when the recipient's E-mail application
displays the message does the image file get combined with the message.
  Thus, you need an image file when composing the message.


But 1. There is no file ...
2. When embedded in(per example, in the middle of the mail) the mail 
there is no visible "file attachement" this is different when i click on 
attach-browse-select a file; in this case the file is attached with the 
mail(and not embedded in the mail text).
3. I know that the file or pseudo file is appended at the end of the 
mail. Looking at the message source we see a multi-part message with the 
message text/plain, the message text/html and the message image/png

... all those parts are composing the full message.
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Re: Image pasted into a mail

[David E. Ross]

On 11/6/10 1:54 PM, Ray_Net wrote:
> Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:
>> Sat, 06 Nov 2010 22:37:04 +0100, /Ray_Net/:
>>> Ed Mullen wrote:
 Ray_Net wrote:

> How can i change the format .png when doing "paste" into a mail ?

 You can't. You have to convert the file first, then paste the new
 file. If you need a converter program try:

 http://irfanview.com/

 It's free and very good.
>>>
>>> This is *not* a file  it's just a copy/paste of an image, per
>>> example, you press the "PrintScrn" button when what you want to
>>> transfer is on screen.
>>
>> You could probably first paste in IrfanView and then save in whatever
>> format you need. You could also paste in Paint and save in one of the
>> formats it supports.
>>
> I understand, but i did not want to put a file in attachement ... i 
> prefer just a copy/paste ... but as i have said soemwhere else:
> I think that i have found the solurion ... i have to wait some days now, 
> because the recipient will be at work only at wednesday. I will tell you 
> the result.

The problem is that, no matter how you obtain the image, it traverses
the Internet as an attached file separate from the message.  Only when
you compose the message and when the recipient's E-mail application
displays the message does the image file get combined with the message.
 Thus, you need an image file when composing the message.

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Re: Image pasted into a mail

[Ray_Net]

Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:

Sat, 06 Nov 2010 22:37:04 +0100, /Ray_Net/:

Ed Mullen wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:


How can i change the format .png when doing "paste" into a mail ?


You can't. You have to convert the file first, then paste the new
file. If you need a converter program try:

http://irfanview.com/

It's free and very good.


This is *not* a file  it's just a copy/paste of an image, per
example, you press the "PrintScrn" button when what you want to
transfer is on screen.


You could probably first paste in IrfanView and then save in whatever
format you need. You could also paste in Paint and save in one of the
formats it supports.

I understand, but i did not want to put a file in attachement ... i 
prefer just a copy/paste ... but as i have said soemwhere else:
I think that i have found the solurion ... i have to wait some days now, 
because the recipient will be at work only at wednesday. I will tell you 
the result.

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Re: Image pasted into a mail

[Stanimir Stamenkov]

Sat, 06 Nov 2010 22:37:04 +0100, /Ray_Net/:

Ed Mullen wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:


How can i change the format .png when doing "paste" into a mail ?


You can't. You have to convert the file first, then paste the new 
file. If you need a converter program try:


http://irfanview.com/

It's free and very good.


This is *not* a file  it's just a copy/paste of an image, per 
example, you press the "PrintScrn" button when what you want to 
transfer is on screen.


You could probably first paste in IrfanView and then save in whatever 
format you need. You could also paste in Paint and save in one of the 
formats it supports.


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Re: Image pasted into a mail

[Ray_Net]

JAS wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:


I know that, and i know also that Lotus Notes version 8 accept .png
inclusions. The problem is because my recipient cannot upgrade to that
version, his pc is "at work" and the company have not decided to
upgrade now , for a certain times. so the question si still open:
How can i create an embedded picture in a mail for my recipient who is
using Lotus Notes ?


If the file is on your computer open in your viewer and convert, I use
Irfanview so it is as simple as right clicking on it and converting. If
it not on your computer download it and then convert.

I think that i have found the solurion ... i have to wait some days now, 
because the recipient will be at work only at wednesday. I will tell you 
the result.

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Re: Image pasted into a mail

[Ray_Net]

Ed Mullen wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

Ed Mullen wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

I have an image in the clipboard ...
and i wrote a mail with:
See my picture !!
(then here i do a paste from the clipboard)

The result is:
See my picture !!
*---*
| |
|  |
| |
*---*


The result is ok for me, but my recipient having Lotus Notes as mail
received:
See my picture !!
*-*
| | <- just an empty square
*-*

I have goggled and discovered that embedded .png file into an HTML
document cannot be rendered with Lotus Notes.


How can i create an embedded picture in a mail for my recipient who is
usinf Lotus Notes ?


http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg21090737



I know that, and i know also that Lotus Notes version 8 accept .png
inclusions. The problem is because my recipient cannot upgrade to that
version, his pc is "at work" and the company have not decided to upgrade
now , for a certain times. so the question si still open:
How can i create an embedded picture in a mail for my recipient who is
using Lotus Notes ?


As I replied to your other post:

http://irfanview.com/

and convert the png to a jpg first and paste/send that file.


ok, but as i said at the other post:
I think that i have found the solurion ... i have to wait some days now, 
because the recipient will be at work only at wednesday. I will tell you 
the result.

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Re: Image pasted into a mail

[Ray_Net]

David E. Ross wrote:

On 11/6/10 8:33 AM, Ray_Net wrote:

Paul wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

I have an image in the clipboard ...
and i wrote a mail with:
See my picture !!
(then here i do a paste from the clipboard)

The result is:
See my picture !!
*---*
| |
|  |
| |
*---*


The result is ok for me, but my recipient having Lotus Notes as mail
received:
See my picture !!
*-*
| |<- just an empty square
*-*

I have goggled and discovered that embedded .png file into an HTML
document cannot be rendered with Lotus Notes.


How can i create an embedded picture in a mail for my recipient who is
usinf Lotus Notes ?


Why not just change it into something else?
There are hundreds of other formats.


How can i change the format .png when doing "paste" into a mail ?


Open the image file on your own PC in photoed.exe or some other
application that allows even minimal editin.  Save the file into a new
copy as a JPEG file.  Send the JPEG file in the message.

Note well:  Although the image appears within your message when you
compose it and might appear within the message for the recipient, it
actually travels through the Internet as a separate attachment file.
Some E-mail applications might not recombine the image with the message,
instead leaving the image as an attachment.

I think that i have found the solurion ... i have to wait some days now, 
because the recipient will be at work only at wednesday. I will tell you 
the result.

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Re: Image pasted into a mail

[Ray_Net]

Ed Mullen wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

Paul wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

I have an image in the clipboard ...
and i wrote a mail with:
See my picture !!
(then here i do a paste from the clipboard)

The result is:
See my picture !!
*---*
| |
|  |
| |
*---*


The result is ok for me, but my recipient having Lotus Notes as mail
received:
See my picture !!
*-*
| | <- just an empty square
*-*

I have goggled and discovered that embedded .png file into an HTML
document cannot be rendered with Lotus Notes.


How can i create an embedded picture in a mail for my recipient who is
usinf Lotus Notes ?


Why not just change it into something else?
There are hundreds of other formats.


How can i change the format .png when doing "paste" into a mail ?


You can't. You have to convert the file first, then paste the new file.
If you need a converter program try:

http://irfanview.com/

It's free and very good.

This is *not* a file  it's just a copy/paste of an image, per 
example, you press the "PrintScrn" button when what you want to transfer 
is on screen.

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Re: Image pasted into a mail

[JAS]

Ray_Net wrote:
>
> I know that, and i know also that Lotus Notes version 8 accept .png
> inclusions. The problem is because my recipient cannot upgrade to that
> version, his pc is "at work" and the company have not decided to
> upgrade now , for a certain times. so the question si still open:
> How can i create an embedded picture in a mail for my recipient who is
> using Lotus Notes ?

If the file is on your computer open in your viewer and convert, I use
Irfanview so it is as simple as right clicking on it and converting. If
it not on your computer download it and then convert.

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Re: Image pasted into a mail

[David E. Ross]

On 11/6/10 8:33 AM, Ray_Net wrote:
> Paul wrote:
>> Ray_Net wrote:
>>> I have an image in the clipboard ...
>>> and i wrote a mail with:
>>> See my picture !!
>>> (then here i do a paste from the clipboard)
>>>
>>> The result is:
>>> See my picture !!
>>> *---*
>>> | |
>>> |  |
>>> | |
>>> *---*
>>>
>>>
>>> The result is ok for me, but my recipient having Lotus Notes as mail
>>> received:
>>> See my picture !!
>>> *-*
>>> | | <- just an empty square
>>> *-*
>>>
>>> I have goggled and discovered that embedded .png file into an HTML
>>> document cannot be rendered with Lotus Notes.
>>>
>>>
>>> How can i create an embedded picture in a mail for my recipient who is
>>> usinf Lotus Notes ?
>>
>> Why not just change it into something else?
>> There are hundreds of other formats.
> 
> How can i change the format .png when doing "paste" into a mail ?

Open the image file on your own PC in photoed.exe or some other
application that allows even minimal editin.  Save the file into a new
copy as a JPEG file.  Send the JPEG file in the message.

Note well:  Although the image appears within your message when you
compose it and might appear within the message for the recipient, it
actually travels through the Internet as a separate attachment file.
Some E-mail applications might not recombine the image with the message,
instead leaving the image as an attachment.

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I am again filtering and ignoring all newsgroup messages posted
through GoogleGroups via Google's G2/1.0 user agent because of the
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Re: Image pasted into a mail

[Ed Mullen]

Ray_Net wrote:

Ed Mullen wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

I have an image in the clipboard ...
and i wrote a mail with:
See my picture !!
(then here i do a paste from the clipboard)

The result is:
See my picture !!
*---*
| |
|  |
| |
*---*


The result is ok for me, but my recipient having Lotus Notes as mail
received:
See my picture !!
*-*
| | <- just an empty square
*-*

I have goggled and discovered that embedded .png file into an HTML
document cannot be rendered with Lotus Notes.


How can i create an embedded picture in a mail for my recipient who is
usinf Lotus Notes ?


http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg21090737



I know that, and i know also that Lotus Notes version 8 accept .png
inclusions. The problem is because my recipient cannot upgrade to that
version, his pc is "at work" and the company have not decided to upgrade
now , for a certain times. so the question si still open:
How can i create an embedded picture in a mail for my recipient who is
using Lotus Notes ?


As I replied to your other post:

http://irfanview.com/

and convert the png to a jpg first and paste/send that file.

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Re: Image pasted into a mail

[Ed Mullen]

Ray_Net wrote:

Paul wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

I have an image in the clipboard ...
and i wrote a mail with:
See my picture !!
(then here i do a paste from the clipboard)

The result is:
See my picture !!
*---*
| |
|  |
| |
*---*


The result is ok for me, but my recipient having Lotus Notes as mail
received:
See my picture !!
*-*
| | <- just an empty square
*-*

I have goggled and discovered that embedded .png file into an HTML
document cannot be rendered with Lotus Notes.


How can i create an embedded picture in a mail for my recipient who is
usinf Lotus Notes ?


Why not just change it into something else?
There are hundreds of other formats.


How can i change the format .png when doing "paste" into a mail ?


You can't.  You have to convert the file first, then paste the new file. 
 If you need a converter program try:


http://irfanview.com/

It's free and very good.

--
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Re: Image pasted into a mail

[Ray_Net]

Ed Mullen wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

I have an image in the clipboard ...
and i wrote a mail with:
See my picture !!
(then here i do a paste from the clipboard)

The result is:
See my picture !!
*---*
| |
|  |
| |
*---*


The result is ok for me, but my recipient having Lotus Notes as mail
received:
See my picture !!
*-*
| | <- just an empty square
*-*

I have goggled and discovered that embedded .png file into an HTML
document cannot be rendered with Lotus Notes.


How can i create an embedded picture in a mail for my recipient who is
usinf Lotus Notes ?


http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg21090737


I know that, and i know also that Lotus Notes version 8 accept .png 
inclusions. The problem is because my recipient cannot upgrade to that 
version, his pc is "at work" and the company have not decided to upgrade 
now , for a certain times. so the question si still open:

How can i create an embedded picture in a mail for my recipient who is
using Lotus Notes ?
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Re: Image pasted into a mail

[Ray_Net]

Paul wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

I have an image in the clipboard ...
and i wrote a mail with:
See my picture !!
(then here i do a paste from the clipboard)

The result is:
See my picture !!
*---*
| |
|  |
| |
*---*


The result is ok for me, but my recipient having Lotus Notes as mail
received:
See my picture !!
*-*
| | <- just an empty square
*-*

I have goggled and discovered that embedded .png file into an HTML
document cannot be rendered with Lotus Notes.


How can i create an embedded picture in a mail for my recipient who is
usinf Lotus Notes ?


Why not just change it into something else?
There are hundreds of other formats.


How can i change the format .png when doing "paste" into a mail ?
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Re: Image pasted into a mail

[Ed Mullen]

Ray_Net wrote:

I have an image in the clipboard ...
and i wrote a mail with:
See my picture !!
(then here i do a paste from the clipboard)

The result is:
See my picture !!
*---*
| |
|  |
| |
*---*


The result is ok for me, but my recipient having Lotus Notes as mail
received:
See my picture !!
*-*
| | <- just an empty square
*-*

I have goggled and discovered that embedded .png file into an HTML
document cannot be rendered with Lotus Notes.


How can i create an embedded picture in a mail for my recipient who is
usinf Lotus Notes ?


http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg21090737


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Re: Image pasted into a mail

[Paul]

Ray_Net wrote:

I have an image in the clipboard ...
 and i wrote a mail with:
See my picture !!
(then here i do a paste from the clipboard)

The result is:
See my picture !!
*---*
|   |
||
|   |
*---*


The result is ok for me, but my recipient having Lotus Notes as mail 
received:

See my picture !!
*-*
| |   <- just an empty square
*-*

I have goggled and discovered that embedded .png file into an HTML 
document cannot be rendered with Lotus Notes.



How can i create an embedded picture in a mail for my recipient who is 
usinf Lotus Notes ?


Why not just change it into something else?
There are hundreds of other formats.
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Image pasted into a mail

[Ray_Net]

I have an image in the clipboard ...
 and i wrote a mail with:
See my picture !!
(then here i do a paste from the clipboard)

The result is:
See my picture !!
*---*
|   |
||
|   |
*---*


The result is ok for me, but my recipient having Lotus Notes as mail 
received:

See my picture !!
*-*
| |   <- just an empty square
*-*

I have goggled and discovered that embedded .png file into an HTML 
document cannot be rendered with Lotus Notes.



How can i create an embedded picture in a mail for my recipient who is 
usinf Lotus Notes ?

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