Re: Is there a way to prevent certain sites from hogging system memory?

2017-08-27 Thread Paul B. Gallagher 

no...@nonospam.org wrote:

[replying to me:]

On SM v2.46, Tools->Data Manager opens a window with a long list of
domains in the left column, and the headings Cookies. Permissions,
Password Permissions, Preferences, Passwords, Storage, and Form Data
across the top of the right hand portion of the window.

I can select the weather.com domain from the left column but I'm not
seeing the "add" button you mentioned.


See attached screenshot.

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Re: Is there a way to prevent certain sites from hogging system memory?

2017-07-13 Thread notme 
On SM v2.46, Tools->Data Manager opens a window with a long list of 
domains in the left column, and the headings Cookies. Permissions, 
Password Permissions, Preferences, Passwords, Storage, and Form Data 
across the top of the right hand portion of the window.


I can select the weather.com domain from the left column but I'm not 
seeing the "add" button you mentioned.


BTW, I have noticed that after clicking on either Tools->Data Manager or 
Tools->Password Manager->Manage Stored Passwords and clicking in the 
search domains box, the title bar then displays SeaMonkey (not 
responding) for about 30 seconds before I can continue. I think this 
started when I upgraded from SM 2.40 to SM 2.46. I don't recall ever 
having this problem with an earlier version.


John

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

no...@nonospam.org wrote:


I used PrefBar to disable Java Script and it worked. Only about 300MB
of memory used after being on those two sites all night. However,
this is not an ideal solution. The next webpage I went to, my Comcast
email account, requires Java Script to be turned on.

Is there a setting to disable Java Script only on particular
websites?


Tools | Data Manager

In the list of sites at left, select the site in question. If it's not
listed, you can add it by clicking the "Add" button at bottom with no
site selected and typing it into the input window that appears next to
the "Add" button.

Having selected the site from the list, click the "Add" button, and from
the pull-down list ("Select a type"), choose "Run scripts." Click "Add."
Uncheck "Use default," and check "Block."

To remove the block at some later date, select the site and check "Use
default" (assuming your default is to run scripts).



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Re: Is there a way to prevent certain sites from hogging system memory?

2017-07-13 Thread David E. Ross 
On 7/13/2017 8:13 AM, no...@nonospam.org wrote:
> I used PrefBar to disable Java Script and it worked. Only about 300MB of 
> memory used after being on those two sites all night. However, this is 
> not an ideal solution. The next webpage I went to, my Comcast email 
> account, requires Java Script to be turned on.
> 
> Is there a setting to disable Java Script only on particular websites?
> 
> Thanks!

PrefBar has two different checkboxes for JavaScript.  One controls
JavaScript globally, and the other controls it only for the current tab.
 Use the latter, opening the problem Web page in a new tab.

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Re: Is there a way to prevent certain sites from hogging system memory?

2017-07-13 Thread Paul B. Gallagher 

no...@nonospam.org wrote:


I used PrefBar to disable Java Script and it worked. Only about 300MB
of memory used after being on those two sites all night. However,
this is not an ideal solution. The next webpage I went to, my Comcast
email account, requires Java Script to be turned on.

Is there a setting to disable Java Script only on particular
websites?


Tools | Data Manager

In the list of sites at left, select the site in question. If it's not 
listed, you can add it by clicking the "Add" button at bottom with no 
site selected and typing it into the input window that appears next to 
the "Add" button.


Having selected the site from the list, click the "Add" button, and from 
the pull-down list ("Select a type"), choose "Run scripts." Click "Add." 
Uncheck "Use default," and check "Block."


To remove the block at some later date, select the site and check "Use 
default" (assuming your default is to run scripts).


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Re: Is there a way to prevent certain sites from hogging system memory?

2017-07-13 Thread NFN Smith 

no...@nonospam.org wrote:
I used PrefBar to disable Java Script and it worked. Only about 300MB of 
memory used after being on those two sites all night. However, this is 
not an ideal solution. The next webpage I went to, my Comcast email 
account, requires Java Script to be turned on.


Is there a setting to disable Java Script only on particular websites?



Even as a PrefBar user I forgot that you can use that to block scripts. 
At least you verified that scripting is the source of the problem.


For site-specific blocking, give NoScript a try, as I noted in a 
separate post.


Smith

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Re: Is there a way to prevent certain sites from hogging system memory?

2017-07-13 Thread notme 
I used PrefBar to disable Java Script and it worked. Only about 300MB of 
memory used after being on those two sites all night. However, this is 
not an ideal solution. The next webpage I went to, my Comcast email 
account, requires Java Script to be turned on.


Is there a setting to disable Java Script only on particular websites?

Thanks!

John

David E. Ross wrote:

On 7/12/2017 1:24 PM, Richmond wrote:

no...@nonospam.org writes:


I'm running SM 2.46 under Windows 10 Pro 64 bit. I also have Firefox 54.0 and
MS Edge. I much prefer SM over the other browsers.

When bad weather is in the area, I leave SM running with two tabs open. The
first is our local weather radar at radar.weather.gov and the other is the
hourly forecast at weather.com

Within minutes, both SM and FF are using over 500MB of memory. After a couple
of hours, SM is using over 3GB! (I have 16GB installed on the system, and I
haven't left FF running this long to see how much memory it would eventually
use.) With this much memory usage, SM frequently becomes unresponsive for
minutes at a time and sometimes totally crashes.

Under the same conditions, MS Edge is only using about 23MB of memory!
Is there a solution to this issue for SM? Thanks!



Using an ad blocker might help. I had problems yesterday on
radiotimes.com but it seemed to be a Sky advert loading which caused all
the swapping.

(I am using linux, seamonkey 2.49.1, firefox 52.2.0)



I doubt that a U.S. government Web site contains advertisements.  My
experience is that bad JavaScript in the Web pages is causing the
problem.  If you can still get the results you need without it, disable
JavaScript to see if that helps.



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Re: Is there a way to prevent certain sites from hogging system memory?

2017-07-12 Thread NFN Smith 

no...@nonospam.org wrote:
I'm running SM 2.46 under Windows 10 Pro 64 bit. I also have Firefox 
54.0 and MS Edge. I much prefer SM over the other browsers.


When bad weather is in the area, I leave SM running with two tabs open. 
The first is our local weather radar at radar.weather.gov and the other 
is the hourly forecast at weather.com


Within minutes, both SM and FF are using over 500MB of memory. After a 
couple of hours, SM is using over 3GB! (I have 16GB installed on the 
system, and I haven't left FF running this long to see how much memory 
it would eventually use.) With this much memory usage, SM frequently 
becomes unresponsive for minutes at a time and sometimes totally crashes.


Under the same conditions, MS Edge is only using about 23MB of memory!
Is there a solution to this issue for SM? Thanks!


Sounds like something relating to a script isn going awry. As David Ross 
has noted, turning off JavaScript would probably get you around the 
problem, although doing it at browser level would disrupt other sites 
that use scripting.


A couple of other things that you could try:

- See what happens when you launch Seamonkey in Safe Mode (Help -> 
Restart with add-ons disabled). Sometimes the source of scripting errors 
is related to stuff in your user profile, and I've seen a one-time 
restart in Safe Mode can occasionally clear things there.


- You might also take a look at the NoScript extension, where you start 
off by disabling all scripting hosts, and then enabling one at a time. 
That can help you find which scripting host is causing problems, and you 
may be able to isolate the problem script (or at least the host that 
delivers it).


For weather.com, they use a lot of animation, and it's likely the 
scripts that support that, that are having problems.


Smith

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Re: Is there a way to prevent certain sites from hogging system memory?

2017-07-12 Thread David E. Ross 
On 7/12/2017 1:24 PM, Richmond wrote:
> no...@nonospam.org writes:
> 
>> I'm running SM 2.46 under Windows 10 Pro 64 bit. I also have Firefox 54.0 and
>> MS Edge. I much prefer SM over the other browsers.
>>
>> When bad weather is in the area, I leave SM running with two tabs open. The
>> first is our local weather radar at radar.weather.gov and the other is the
>> hourly forecast at weather.com
>>
>> Within minutes, both SM and FF are using over 500MB of memory. After a couple
>> of hours, SM is using over 3GB! (I have 16GB installed on the system, and I
>> haven't left FF running this long to see how much memory it would eventually
>> use.) With this much memory usage, SM frequently becomes unresponsive for
>> minutes at a time and sometimes totally crashes.
>>
>> Under the same conditions, MS Edge is only using about 23MB of memory!
>> Is there a solution to this issue for SM? Thanks!
>>
> 
> Using an ad blocker might help. I had problems yesterday on
> radiotimes.com but it seemed to be a Sky advert loading which caused all
> the swapping.
> 
> (I am using linux, seamonkey 2.49.1, firefox 52.2.0)
> 

I doubt that a U.S. government Web site contains advertisements.  My
experience is that bad JavaScript in the Web pages is causing the
problem.  If you can still get the results you need without it, disable
JavaScript to see if that helps.

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David Ross


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Is there a way to prevent certain sites from hogging system memory?

2017-07-12 Thread notme 
I'm running SM 2.46 under Windows 10 Pro 64 bit. I also have Firefox 
54.0 and MS Edge. I much prefer SM over the other browsers.


When bad weather is in the area, I leave SM running with two tabs open. 
The first is our local weather radar at radar.weather.gov and the other 
is the hourly forecast at weather.com


Within minutes, both SM and FF are using over 500MB of memory. After a 
couple of hours, SM is using over 3GB! (I have 16GB installed on the 
system, and I haven't left FF running this long to see how much memory 
it would eventually use.) With this much memory usage, SM frequently 
becomes unresponsive for minutes at a time and sometimes totally crashes.


Under the same conditions, MS Edge is only using about 23MB of memory!
Is there a solution to this issue for SM? Thanks!

John
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