Re: Is this the end of SeaMonkey?
On Sep 8, 1:20 pm, dsavitsk dsavi...@gmail.com wrote: On Sep 8, 9:03 am, S. Beaulieu sereenie-nosp...@netscape.net Just FTR, I don't have that problem on my Thinkpad, so it doesn't seem to be a general bug. Updated drivers and some mouse settings, and it seems to be working now. So, I guess I'm back on the team :) Drat, spoke too soon, again. Got everything working on a T410 with Win7, but my old X61 with XP is a no go. This computer doe snot get used for much browsing, so switching to Firefox here is not a big deal, I guess. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: CAVEAT LECTOR - was [Re: Is this the end of SeaMonkey?]
Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote: There are other niggling annoyances, but these have been here since day one (e.g., the static nature of the tooltips associated with the column headers in the Mail and News part of the client that read (e.g. Click to sort by ...) whether or not the view is already sorted by that criterion ). Oh, and in the fact that if one composes a reply using HTML formatting, the composition window will shew a clear separation (vertical white space) between quoted text and reply which completely disappears when the message is sent and received. Noticed yet again when reading my own reply to your message, which became virtually unreadable as a result :-( Philip Taylor ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Is this the end of SeaMonkey?
taz043 wrote: Daniel wrote: taz043 wrote: dsavitsk wrote: It is for me. Been using SM since early 1.x days -- 5 years or so now. A while back, I had upgraded to 2.2 but lost functionality (a href=http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.support.seamonkey/ browse_thread/thread/d3ce81bc8e4b3db6/f28f8e13c0361f1dcenter button scrolling with a Thinkpad and the ability to open new tabs easily/a) so I re-downgraded. Today, I received dire warnings that upgrading to 2.3.3 was essential for security reasons. I figured that maybe some of these issues had been resolved, and that maybe security trumps inconvenience. But, nope, nothing's fixed. And, as a last FU, all of my bookmarks got deleted by the upgrade. Thanks! Like dsavitsk, I think its about time for me to leave SeaMonkey after many years of happy surfing. I hate tab browsing and no matter what I uncheck in preferences I still have tabs and not the windows browsing I prefer. Been like this since the last couple of updates. I do thank all the folks, past and present that have labored on SeaMonkey since its beginning. Have you been told to check Edit-Preferences-Browser-Link Behavior to set it as you require especially the top section dealing with Links? Thanks you a thousand times. I'd been playing with the tabbed browsing only, checking and unchecking everything until I was totally confused. I guess I know just enough be be dangerous.. Or, if you're having a problem with SeaMonkey, you know where to ask your question.not just say you've had a gut full and are leaving to try something else! Glad I could be of help. (Still cannot see what the problem is with using tabs, in any case, but to each their own!!) (If I know more than you, does that mean I am more dangerous than you??) -- Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
CAVEAT LECTOR - was [Re: Is this the end of SeaMonkey?]
Daniel wrote:
taz043 wrote:
dsavitsk wrote:
It is for me. Been using SM since early 1.x days -- 5 years or so
now. A while back, I had upgraded to 2.2 but lost functionality (a
href=http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.support.seamonkey/
browse_thread/thread/d3ce81bc8e4b3db6/f28f8e13c0361f1dcenter button
scrolling with a Thinkpad and the ability to open new tabs easily/a)
so I re-downgraded. Today, I received dire warnings that upgrading to
2.3.3 was essential for security reasons. I figured that maybe some
of these issues had been resolved, and that maybe security trumps
inconvenience. But, nope, nothing's fixed. And, as a last FU, all of
my bookmarks got deleted by the upgrade. Thanks!
Like dsavitsk, I think its about time for me to leave SeaMonkey after
many years of happy surfing. I hate tab browsing and no matter what I
uncheck in preferences I still have tabs and not the windows browsing I
prefer. Been like this since the last couple of updates. I do thank
all the folks, past and present that have labored on SeaMonkey since its
beginning.
Have you been told to check Edit-Preferences-Browser-Link Behavior to
set it as you require especially the top section dealing with Links?
Edit-Preferences-Browser-Link Behavior exists in 2.3.1 (= ?)
It does *NOT* exist in 2.0.8 !
Due to recent hardware problems I've had to revert to my backup
machine (IBM Thinkpad (aka Lenovo) T43). I've been happily running
2.0.8 forever {please note quotation marks). I updated to
something 'later'. It ran like molasses going uphill on Neptune in
mid-winter at its north pole ; I reverted to 2.0.8.
I have 2.3.1 on my desktop. It has not yet been allowed on Web as
there is yet no acceptable free (as in beer) AV program on it. [My
laptop uses commercial software and though I don't like some EULA
conditions, I abide by them.
I'm not particularly happy with much in the Free Software (as in
speech AND beer) movement. Many have followed Mr. Gates in saying
Papa knows best :
I'll try 2.3.1 on my laptop and see what happens.
P.S.
I use SeaMonkey as I've always liked the Netscape 4.x experience.
Thunderbird/Firefox annoying.
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Re: Is this the end of SeaMonkey?
dsavitsk schrieb: And, as a last FU, all of my bookmarks got deleted by the upgrade. Usually, an auto-import of bookmarks should run the first time you switch from 2.0.x to 2.1 or later, but in rare cases it fails to run correctly. You can go into the bookmarks manager and use the import functionality to import your old bookmarks.html into the new format once. From there, the bookmarks should be fine on future updates as well. Robert Kaiser -- Note that any statements of mine - no matter how passionate - are never meant to be offensive but very often as food for thought or possible arguments that we as a community should think about. And most of the time, I even appreciate irony and fun! :) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Is this the end of SeaMonkey?
taz043 wrote: dsavitsk wrote: It is for me. Been using SM since early 1.x days -- 5 years or so now. A while back, I had upgraded to 2.2 but lost functionality (a href=http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.support.seamonkey/ browse_thread/thread/d3ce81bc8e4b3db6/f28f8e13c0361f1dcenter button scrolling with a Thinkpad and the ability to open new tabs easily/a) so I re-downgraded. Today, I received dire warnings that upgrading to 2.3.3 was essential for security reasons. I figured that maybe some of these issues had been resolved, and that maybe security trumps inconvenience. But, nope, nothing's fixed. And, as a last FU, all of my bookmarks got deleted by the upgrade. Thanks! Like dsavitsk, I think its about time for me to leave SeaMonkey after many years of happy surfing. I hate tab browsing and no matter what I uncheck in preferences I still have tabs and not the windows browsing I prefer. Been like this since the last couple of updates. I do thank all the folks, past and present that have labored on SeaMonkey since its beginning. Have you been told to check Edit-Preferences-Browser-Link Behavior to set it as you require especially the top section dealing with Links? -- Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Is this the end of SeaMonkey?
dsavitsk a écrit : I have backups, so I am okay data wise. Really, the Thinkpad scrolling thing is the one I can't get past, so a fix for that and I am a happy enough camper to continue. Just FTR, I don't have that problem on my Thinkpad, so it doesn't seem to be a general bug. S. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Is this the end of SeaMonkey?
Daniel wrote: taz043 wrote: dsavitsk wrote: It is for me. Been using SM since early 1.x days -- 5 years or so now. A while back, I had upgraded to 2.2 but lost functionality (a href=http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.support.seamonkey/ browse_thread/thread/d3ce81bc8e4b3db6/f28f8e13c0361f1dcenter button scrolling with a Thinkpad and the ability to open new tabs easily/a) so I re-downgraded. Today, I received dire warnings that upgrading to 2.3.3 was essential for security reasons. I figured that maybe some of these issues had been resolved, and that maybe security trumps inconvenience. But, nope, nothing's fixed. And, as a last FU, all of my bookmarks got deleted by the upgrade. Thanks! Like dsavitsk, I think its about time for me to leave SeaMonkey after many years of happy surfing. I hate tab browsing and no matter what I uncheck in preferences I still have tabs and not the windows browsing I prefer. Been like this since the last couple of updates. I do thank all the folks, past and present that have labored on SeaMonkey since its beginning. Have you been told to check Edit-Preferences-Browser-Link Behavior to set it as you require especially the top section dealing with Links? Thanks you a thousand times. I'd been playing with the tabbed browsing only, checking and unchecking everything until I was totally confused. I guess I know just enough be be dangerous.. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Is this the end of SeaMonkey?
On Sep 8, 9:03 am, S. Beaulieu sereenie-nosp...@netscape.net wrote: dsavitsk a écrit : I have backups, so I am okay data wise. Really, the Thinkpad scrolling thing is the one I can't get past, so a fix for that and I am a happy enough camper to continue. Just FTR, I don't have that problem on my Thinkpad, so it doesn't seem to be a general bug. Updated drivers and some mouse settings, and it seems to be working now. So, I guess I'm back on the team :) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Is this the end of SeaMonkey?
It is for me. Been using SM since early 1.x days -- 5 years or so now. A while back, I had upgraded to 2.2 but lost functionality (a href=http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.support.seamonkey/ browse_thread/thread/d3ce81bc8e4b3db6/f28f8e13c0361f1dcenter button scrolling with a Thinkpad and the ability to open new tabs easily/a) so I re-downgraded. Today, I received dire warnings that upgrading to 2.3.3 was essential for security reasons. I figured that maybe some of these issues had been resolved, and that maybe security trumps inconvenience. But, nope, nothing's fixed. And, as a last FU, all of my bookmarks got deleted by the upgrade. Thanks! ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Is this the end of SeaMonkey?
On 9/7/2011 1:24 PM dsavitsk submitted the following: It is for me. Been using SM since early 1.x days -- 5 years or so now. A while back, I had upgraded to 2.2 but lost functionality (a href=http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.support.seamonkey/ browse_thread/thread/d3ce81bc8e4b3db6/f28f8e13c0361f1dcenter button scrolling with a Thinkpad and the ability to open new tabs easily/a) so I re-downgraded. Today, I received dire warnings that upgrading to 2.3.3 was essential for security reasons. I figured that maybe some of these issues had been resolved, and that maybe security trumps inconvenience. But, nope, nothing's fixed. And, as a last FU, all of my bookmarks got deleted by the upgrade. Thanks! What am I doing incorrectly? I've updated with each release from 1.1.15pre to 2.3.3 without a problem except for a few addons that need tweeking to their install.rdf file (not a SM problem - take it up with the add-on maker). I must be doing something wrong. What is it? -- Ed, W3BNR http://JonesFarm.us/W3BNR Powered by SeaMonkey: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/ Instead of giving a politition the keys to the city, it might be better to change the lockes. -Doug Larson ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Is this the end of SeaMonkey?
W3BNR wrote: On 9/7/2011 1:24 PM dsavitsk submitted the following: It is for me. Been using SM since early 1.x days -- 5 years or so now. A while back, I had upgraded to 2.2 but lost functionality (a href=http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.support.seamonkey/ browse_thread/thread/d3ce81bc8e4b3db6/f28f8e13c0361f1dcenter button scrolling with a Thinkpad and the ability to open new tabs easily/a) so I re-downgraded. Today, I received dire warnings that upgrading to 2.3.3 was essential for security reasons. I figured that maybe some of these issues had been resolved, and that maybe security trumps inconvenience. But, nope, nothing's fixed. And, as a last FU, all of my bookmarks got deleted by the upgrade. Thanks! What am I doing incorrectly? I've updated with each release from 1.1.15pre to 2.3.3 without a problem except for a few addons that need tweeking to their install.rdf file (not a SM problem - take it up with the add-on maker). I must be doing something wrong. What is it? You are fortunate! For many of us, the update from 1.1.n to 2.n was treacherous. Happily, all updates from there on out have been painless, and I'd never go back ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Is this the end of SeaMonkey?
dsavitsk wrote: It is for me. Been using SM since early 1.x days -- 5 years or so now. A while back, I had upgraded to 2.2 but lost functionality (a href=http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.support.seamonkey/ browse_thread/thread/d3ce81bc8e4b3db6/f28f8e13c0361f1dcenter button scrolling with a Thinkpad and the ability to open new tabs easily/a) so I re-downgraded. Today, I received dire warnings that upgrading to 2.3.3 was essential for security reasons. I figured that maybe some of these issues had been resolved, and that maybe security trumps inconvenience. But, nope, nothing's fixed. And, as a last FU, all of my bookmarks got deleted by the upgrade. Thanks! Like dsavitsk, I think its about time for me to leave SeaMonkey after many years of happy surfing. I hate tab browsing and no matter what I uncheck in preferences I still have tabs and not the windows browsing I prefer. Been like this since the last couple of updates. I do thank all the folks, past and present that have labored on SeaMonkey since its beginning. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Is this the end of SeaMonkey?
BIll Spikowski wrote: W3BNR wrote: On 9/7/2011 1:24 PM dsavitsk submitted the following: It is for me. Been using SM since early 1.x days -- 5 years or so now. A while back, I had upgraded to 2.2 but lost functionality (a href=http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.support.seamonkey/ browse_thread/thread/d3ce81bc8e4b3db6/f28f8e13c0361f1dcenter button scrolling with a Thinkpad and the ability to open new tabs easily/a) so I re-downgraded. Today, I received dire warnings that upgrading to 2.3.3 was essential for security reasons. I figured that maybe some of these issues had been resolved, and that maybe security trumps inconvenience. But, nope, nothing's fixed. And, as a last FU, all of my bookmarks got deleted by the upgrade. Thanks! What am I doing incorrectly? I've updated with each release from 1.1.15pre to 2.3.3 without a problem except for a few addons that need tweeking to their install.rdf file (not a SM problem - take it up with the add-on maker). I must be doing something wrong. What is it? You are fortunate! For many of us, the update from 1.1.n to 2.n was treacherous. Happily, all updates from there on out have been painless, and I'd never go back My experience has been that the vast majortiy of updates from 1.0 to 2.3.3 have been trouble free or involved very minor issues that were easily solved. I always keep a very recent backup of my SeaMonkey profile, just in case some unforeseen issue arises. I also have an external hard drive for cloning my main hard drive. This drive is bootable. Also I use Time Machine to back up all my files and apps. If I run into any problems upgrading SeaMonkey, such as losing all my bookmarks, I can easily restore them. If I need to revert to an older version of SeaMonkey, if there is something that fails to work as advertised or is buggy, then I can use time machine to revert to an earlier SeaMonkey version. Fortunately my problems with SeaMonkey have not been so bad that I have had to restore my profile or revert to an earlier SeaMonkey version. Before I update SeaMonkey I always make sure I have a recent backup of both the current SeaMonkey version AND my SeaMonkey profile (recent copy) before I update just in case something happens. Then again I may have not had too many serious issues with SeaMonkey because I am using a Mac with 10.6.x ;)--nah that's not it. Its likely due to my policy of always having a recent backup available in case I run into trouble. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
