Re: Newsreader and blank messages
I have a similar problem which I assume is due to the same bug... I use the Mozilla Threads with Unread option and can't live without it. When this happens (a message is lost during download) the message pointer for the missing message is apparently retained in the overall message data location (where ever that is) Since the missing message can't be seen, it cannot be read, marked as read, deleted, etc, it remains as an unread message as far as the newsreader is concerned, so the thread it was associated with will always display when Threads with Unread is used. I've tried everything I can think of, _including_ unsubscribing then resubscribing and even deleting the newsgroups folder to no avail Advance-Cache-Clear Cache Unfortunately, did not work, Beverly Howard ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Newsreader and blank messages
update... since this is a newer version of Seamonkey, I closed seamonkey, then went to the news folder under the profile, deleted the newsgroups msf file in the news folder and deleted the folder for the newsgroup. While the newsgroup was retained, I had to go back in and re-subscribe to the sections I participated in and re-download, the thread finally stopped displaying when Threads with Unread was set. Beverly Howard ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Newsreader and blank messages
Alex Strickland wrote: chicagofan wrote: Since Daniel is in Australia I think, maybe actions related to that undersea cable repair are involved. I don't know of anyone in the U.S. experiencing this... at least yet. It crossed my mind, but they route through Asia I think. Apparently the cable will be done by tonight, I'm sure I can live without newsgroups for a day if that is it. Newsgroup access seems entirely normal again. It does seem strange, however, that SeaMonkey (or Thunderbird) doesn't report any form of error. I'll let that comment stand, perhaps someone will look into it one day. Thanks and regards Alex ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Newsreader and blank messages
Alex Strickland wrote, On 4/29/2010 10:12 AM: .../... I'll let that comment stand, perhaps someone will look into it one day. Thanks and regards Alex I think this could be this bug here: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=540288 Dom ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Newsreader and blank messages
Alex Strickland wrote: Daniel wrote: Alex Strickland wrote: Hi I'm using version 2.0.4. When I click on a newsgroup the number of new posts is retrieved, they show the subject, dates, number of lines etc. When I click on a message, it briefly shows Connecting to xxx, Connected to xxx and Loading Message... and then a blank message is displayed. I have tried flagging the message and the retrieving flagged messages, same deal. I deleted all the .msf files, with no change. I then deleted *all* the files and directories under: C:\Users\Alex\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\k9xxylit.default\News and set up new accounts and resubscribed, with no change. I am trying with three different news servers, so I can't blame the server. This is not a new install or anything, and seemed fine last week. I have had this problem very intermittently before but generally simply clicking on the message again got it back, but now, nothing. *Sometimes* I try Print Preview and the message detail appears in the print preview! I am not set up for offline reading. Any ideas (besides installing Thunderbird)? Regards and thanks Alex Alex, it's not just you. Me, too! I've tried Reply but nothing shows up in the reply except the Bozzo said Yes, I hadn't tried that but I get the same response when I do. It is as if there is no code that says NNTP body retrieval failed : alert user. Aplogies, I deliberately left the top post for the newsgroup, although clearly I won't be looking at the post! Regards Alex Just as well you did post to the group, because my email address is mugged, so I haven't got your email yet!! And don't worry about it now, better to be dealing with this problem on the news group. Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Newsreader and blank messages
dominique wrote: Alex Strickland wrote, On 4/29/2010 10:12 AM: .../... I'll let that comment stand, perhaps someone will look into it one day. Thanks and regards Alex I think this could be this bug here: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=540288 Dom Spot on, Dominique, I've just added myself to the bug. Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Newsreader and blank messages
Errol Smith wrote: I have seen this a couple of times. I found that if I (completely!) closed Seamonkey opened it again, the message bodies would be there now. So I think this IS a Seamonkey issue, but it hasn't happened often enough for me to be sure. Try that see if it works for you Elsewhere in this thread, Dominique has posted a Bugzilla bug number, and reading that shows that Thunderbird is also affected. They have noted that if you close which ever program you're using, and then re-open it, you are able to see the message. Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Newsreader and blank messages
Daniel wrote: I think this could be this bug here: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=540288 Dom Spot on, Dominique, I've just added myself to the bug. I looked for a bug report before I originally posted, but couldn't find it :( Good catch, and thank you dominique. Do you think maybe it is really three bugs? 1. The reproducible behaviour the original bug reporter showed. 2. The not so reproducible behaviour when the connectivity is just so bad that NNTP doesn't work, but SM/TB does not tell the user. 3. The failure to repopulate when the cache is empty after something (1. or 2.) has gone wrong? Regards Alex ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Newsreader and blank messages
Alex Strickland wrote: Daniel wrote: I think this could be this bug here: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=540288 Dom Spot on, Dominique, I've just added myself to the bug. I looked for a bug report before I originally posted, but couldn't find it :( Good catch, and thank you dominique. Do you think maybe it is really three bugs? 1. The reproducible behaviour the original bug reporter showed. 2. The not so reproducible behaviour when the connectivity is just so bad that NNTP doesn't work, but SM/TB does not tell the user. 3. The failure to repopulate when the cache is empty after something (1. or 2.) has gone wrong? Regards Alex Strikes me, something tricks SM/TB into thinking it has received the message, but in fact it has received a blank message, so it's not a connectivity thing (2) and if it (SM/TB) believes it has received a valid message, why should it try to repopulate (3)?? Your number 1's the problem. IMHO, of course. Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Newsreader and blank messages
Daniel wrote: Errol Smith wrote: I have seen this a couple of times. I found that if I (completely!) closed Seamonkey opened it again, the message bodies would be there now. So I think this IS a Seamonkey issue, but it hasn't happened often enough for me to be sure. Try that see if it works for you Elsewhere in this thread, Dominique has posted a Bugzilla bug number, and reading that shows that Thunderbird is also affected. They have noted that if you close which ever program you're using, and then re-open it, you are able to see the message. Daniel I see this bug all the time. it happens at least once a day. Mark it as unread. The shut down SeaMonkey and restart and you ca read message Also note in some cases rather than being highlighted. the item is outlined in a rectangle (the subject). SM 1 never ever did this. SM2 since inception always had. Someone need to post a Bug about it in SM Bugzilla even if it Duplicates one in Thunderbird. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.net http://www.vpea.org mailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Newsreader and blank messages
dominique wrote: Alex Strickland wrote, On 4/29/2010 10:12 AM: .../... I'll let that comment stand, perhaps someone will look into it one day. Thanks and regards Alex I think this could be this bug here: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=540288 Dom I've just read the bug commented on it and voted for it to be fixed. In Comments I noted it applies to SM as well as TB and for me its a daily occurrence. At least one Message is affected each day, and there is no certain News Server. and in my case a sure sign that that it will show as empty, it that instead of being fully highlighted will show as an outline around the subject (header info). Note: this was not added;but, I read messages from Mozilla, secnews.Netscape, Annexcafe, msnews.com, and eternal September. and it happens in all of them. its never on the same server and randomly happens between the servers. Oh, this was added to comment in Bugzilla. This never happen in SM1, and has always happened in SM2 since day one. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.net http://www.vpea.org mailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Newsreader and blank messages
Phillip Jones wrote, On 4/29/2010 5:52 PM: .../... I've just read the bug commented on it and voted for it to be fixed. In Comments I noted it applies to SM as well as TB and for me its a daily occurrence. At least one Message is affected each day, and there is no certain News Server. and in my case a sure sign that that it will show as empty, it that instead of being fully highlighted will show as an outline around the subject (header info). Note: this was not added;but, I read messages from Mozilla, secnews.Netscape, Annexcafe, msnews.com, and eternal September. and it happens in all of them. its never on the same server and randomly happens between the servers. Oh, this was added to comment in Bugzilla. This never happen in SM1, and has always happened in SM2 since day one. A workaround I found was to right-click on the message that do not show-up, click Get selected message, move the focus (highlight) out of the message then back onto it, et voilà ! That works for me... Dominique (SM2.1a1pre on WinXP) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Newsreader and blank messages
dominique wrote: Phillip Jones wrote, On 4/29/2010 5:52 PM: .../... I've just read the bug commented on it and voted for it to be fixed. In Comments I noted it applies to SM as well as TB and for me its a daily occurrence. At least one Message is affected each day, and there is no certain News Server. and in my case a sure sign that that it will show as empty, it that instead of being fully highlighted will show as an outline around the subject (header info). Note: this was not added;but, I read messages from Mozilla, secnews.Netscape, Annexcafe, msnews.com, and eternal September. and it happens in all of them. its never on the same server and randomly happens between the servers. Oh, this was added to comment in Bugzilla. This never happen in SM1, and has always happened in SM2 since day one. A workaround I found was to right-click on the message that do not show-up, click Get selected message, move the focus (highlight) out of the message then back onto it, et voilà ! That works for me... Dominique (SM2.1a1pre on WinXP) Already Tried. no success . the only cure on Macs is to mark as unread, shut down SM the open and go back to the message. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.net http://www.vpea.org mailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Newsreader and blank messages
Phillip Jones: Already Tried. no success . the only cure on Macs is to mark as unread, shut down SM the open and go back to the message. Did you try Advance-Cache-Clear Cache followed by going to another posting and then coming back? Hartmut ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Newsreader and blank messages
Hi I'm using version 2.0.4. When I click on a newsgroup the number of new posts is retrieved, they show the subject, dates, number of lines etc. When I click on a message, it briefly shows Connecting to xxx, Connected to xxx and Loading Message... and then a blank message is displayed. I have tried flagging the message and the retrieving flagged messages, same deal. I deleted all the .msf files, with no change. I then deleted *all* the files and directories under: C:\Users\Alex\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\k9xxylit.default\News and set up new accounts and resubscribed, with no change. I am trying with three different news servers, so I can't blame the server. This is not a new install or anything, and seemed fine last week. I have had this problem very intermittently before but generally simply clicking on the message again got it back, but now, nothing. *Sometimes* I try Print Preview and the message detail appears in the print preview! I am not set up for offline reading. Any ideas (besides installing Thunderbird)? Regards and thanks Alex ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Newsreader and blank messages
Alex Strickland wrote: Any ideas (besides installing Thunderbird)? I installed Thunderbird 3.0.4 and the same thing is happening! I'm flummoxed, I am testing with news.mozilla.org and mozilla.general. Same thing, all the message details but not the message body. I know South Africa is having connectivity problems with a undersea cable being repaired, is NNTP a protocol that could be throttled or something? Why would I get the summary info then? Clearly e-mail works. Regards Alex ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Newsreader and blank messages
Alex Strickland wrote: Hi I'm using version 2.0.4. When I click on a newsgroup the number of new posts is retrieved, they show the subject, dates, number of lines etc. When I click on a message, it briefly shows Connecting to xxx, Connected to xxx and Loading Message... and then a blank message is displayed. I have tried flagging the message and the retrieving flagged messages, same deal. I deleted all the .msf files, with no change. I then deleted *all* the files and directories under: C:\Users\Alex\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\k9xxylit.default\News and set up new accounts and resubscribed, with no change. I am trying with three different news servers, so I can't blame the server. This is not a new install or anything, and seemed fine last week. I have had this problem very intermittently before but generally simply clicking on the message again got it back, but now, nothing. *Sometimes* I try Print Preview and the message detail appears in the print preview! I am not set up for offline reading. Any ideas (besides installing Thunderbird)? Regards and thanks Alex Alex, it's not just you. Me, too! I've tried Reply but nothing shows up in the reply except the Bozzo said Anybody else?? Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Newsreader and blank messages
Alex Strickland wrote: Alex Strickland wrote: Any ideas (besides installing Thunderbird)? I installed Thunderbird 3.0.4 and the same thing is happening! I'm flummoxed, I am testing with news.mozilla.org and mozilla.general. Same thing, all the message details but not the message body. I know South Africa is having connectivity problems with a undersea cable being repaired, is NNTP a protocol that could be throttled or something? Why would I get the summary info then? Clearly e-mail works. Regards Alex Since Daniel is in Australia I think, maybe actions related to that undersea cable repair are involved. I don't know of anyone in the U.S. experiencing this... at least yet. bj ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Newsreader and blank messages
Daniel wrote: Alex Strickland wrote: Hi I'm using version 2.0.4. When I click on a newsgroup the number of new posts is retrieved, they show the subject, dates, number of lines etc. When I click on a message, it briefly shows Connecting to xxx, Connected to xxx and Loading Message... and then a blank message is displayed. I have tried flagging the message and the retrieving flagged messages, same deal. I deleted all the .msf files, with no change. I then deleted *all* the files and directories under: C:\Users\Alex\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\k9xxylit.default\News and set up new accounts and resubscribed, with no change. I am trying with three different news servers, so I can't blame the server. This is not a new install or anything, and seemed fine last week. I have had this problem very intermittently before but generally simply clicking on the message again got it back, but now, nothing. *Sometimes* I try Print Preview and the message detail appears in the print preview! I am not set up for offline reading. Any ideas (besides installing Thunderbird)? Regards and thanks Alex Alex, it's not just you. Me, too! I've tried Reply but nothing shows up in the reply except the Bozzo said Yes, I hadn't tried that but I get the same response when I do. It is as if there is no code that says NNTP body retrieval failed : alert user. Aplogies, I deliberately left the top post for the newsgroup, although clearly I won't be looking at the post! Regards Alex ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Newsreader and blank messages
chicagofan wrote: Since Daniel is in Australia I think, maybe actions related to that undersea cable repair are involved. I don't know of anyone in the U.S. experiencing this... at least yet. It crossed my mind, but they route through Asia I think. Apparently the cable will be done by tonight, I'm sure I can live without newsgroups for a day if that is it. It does seem strange, however, that SeaMonkey (or Thunderbird) doesn't report any form of error. Regards Alex ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Newsreader and blank messages
I have seen this a couple of times. I found that if I (completely!) closed Seamonkey opened it again, the message bodies would be there now. So I think this IS a Seamonkey issue, but it hasn't happened often enough for me to be sure. Try that see if it works for you ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
