Re: OT Re: Email error message

2013-03-14 Thread Daniel

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Daniel wrote:


Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

?

Daniel wrote:


Danny, not helping with your problem at all, but why do you want
to send a web page to someone, rather than *just* the link to
the page??

Or am I misinterpreting what you are trying to do??


Sounds right, but that's not what Send Page on the context menu
does.

Try it -- open up, say, Google, right-click in a blank part of the
page, and choose Send Page.

A mail composition window opens with http://www.google.com/ in
the body (complete with angle brackets!) and www.google.com/ in the
attachment pane. Why the attachment, I don't know, but it has
nothing to do with gmail. It's SeaMonkey that's doing that.


Paul, have you actually tried doing as you suggest above (i.e. send
yourself the link *and* the attachment)??

With the link shown in the body, and the attachment show up in its
little window, I sent the e-mail to myself, and when received, the
attachment was shown below the line (i.e. show attachments in-line),
there was all this information that I had never seen before, e.g.

Part Quote Google Instant is unavailable. Press Enter to
search.Learn more
/support/websearch/bin/answer.py?answer=186645form=bbhl=en-AU
Google Instant is off due to connection speed. Press Enter to search.
Press Enter to search. Screen-reader users, click here to turn off
Google Instant.
/setprefs?prev=https://www.google.com.au/sig=0_-CJNiLe2iQIW3Iyosa8pVoyNavw%3Dsuggon=2


End part Quote

Amazing what the code can hide!


OK, yes, I did try, twice.

The first attempt was to my gmail address, and sure enough, Google
blocked it. There was no notice to the recipient, but they did send a
bounce message to the sender:

myaddr...@gmail.com: host gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[74.125.133.27] said:
 552-5.7.0 Our system detected an illegal attachment on your
message. Please
 552-5.7.0 visit
http://support.google.com/mail/bin/answer.py?answer=6590 to
 552 5.7.0 review our attachment guidelines. hb9si12910005icc.13 -
gsmtp (in
 reply to end of DATA command)


The second attempt was to an address with a different ISP, and it
arrived instantly. In this case, I saw what I described before -- the
link in the body and the attachment in the attachment pane. When I


Snip

Sorry, Paul, I meant that when you receive your sent e-mail into your 
SeaMonkey, and you view it, you see the www.google.com in the browser 
body *and* a www.google.com in the attachments screen, and then this 
attachment is shown in-line, as that's how I have SM set up.


I did not have to save the attachment and then look at the saved file!!

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OT Re: Email error message

2013-03-13 Thread Daniel

Danny Kile wrote:

Philip TAYLOR wrote:

It did not for me, even after I had replicated your
setup (compose in HTML, send in both formats).
I did note, however, that when creating the link,
it asked whether I wanted the contents included
as an attachment.  Are you asked this question, and
if so, what do you answer, and how exactly do you
create your links in the HTML editor ?

P.S.  Of course, I did not attempt to create a link
to (say) weather.com; I created a link to (say)

http://weather.com/

Philip Taylor


kileda...@nospamnetscape.net wrote:


So when you create an email with a link in it lets say weather.com,
does the weather.com show up in SM attachments window?


No it does not ask me if I want the contents included as an attachment.
I create attachment in two way typing them in as www.domainname.com or
some times I will be at a site www.domainname.com and then right click
and choose send this page, in either case it will be added to the
attachment list.

Danny


Danny, not helping with your problem at all, but why do you want to send 
a web page to someone, rather than *just* the link to the page??


Or am I mis-interpreting what you are trying to do??

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Re: OT Re: Email error message

2013-03-13 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

Daniel wrote:


Danny, not helping with your problem at all, but why do you want to send
a web page to someone, rather than *just* the link to the page??

Or am I misinterpreting what you are trying to do??


Sounds right, but that's not what Send Page on the context menu does.

Try it -- open up, say, Google, right-click in a blank part of the page, 
and choose Send Page.


A mail composition window opens with http://www.google.com/ in the 
body (complete with angle brackets!) and www.google.com/ in the 
attachment pane. Why the attachment, I don't know, but it has nothing to 
do with gmail. It's SeaMonkey that's doing that.


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Re: OT Re: Email error message

2013-03-13 Thread Daniel

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Daniel wrote:


Danny, not helping with your problem at all, but why do you want to send
a web page to someone, rather than *just* the link to the page??

Or am I misinterpreting what you are trying to do??


Sounds right, but that's not what Send Page on the context menu does.

Try it -- open up, say, Google, right-click in a blank part of the page,
and choose Send Page.

A mail composition window opens with http://www.google.com/ in the
body (complete with angle brackets!) and www.google.com/ in the
attachment pane. Why the attachment, I don't know, but it has nothing to
do with gmail. It's SeaMonkey that's doing that.


Paul, have you actually tried doing as you suggest above (i.e. send 
yourself the link *and* the attachment)??


With the link shown in the body, and the attachment show up in its 
little window, I sent the e-mail to myself, and when received, the 
attachment was shown below the line (i.e. show attachments in-line), 
there was all this information that I had never seen before, e.g.


Part Quote
Google Instant is unavailable. Press Enter to search.Learn more
/support/websearch/bin/answer.py?answer=186645form=bbhl=en-AU
Google Instant is off due to connection speed. Press Enter to search.
Press Enter to search.
Screen-reader users, click here to turn off Google Instant.
/setprefs?prev=https://www.google.com.au/sig=0_-CJNiLe2iQIW3Iyosa8pVoyNavw%3Dsuggon=2 



End part Quote

Amazing what the code can hide!

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Re: OT Re: Email error message

2013-03-13 Thread Danny Kile

Daniel wrote:

Danny Kile wrote:

Philip TAYLOR wrote:

It did not for me, even after I had replicated your
setup (compose in HTML, send in both formats).
I did note, however, that when creating the link,
it asked whether I wanted the contents included
as an attachment.  Are you asked this question, and
if so, what do you answer, and how exactly do you
create your links in the HTML editor ?

P.S.  Of course, I did not attempt to create a link
to (say) weather.com; I created a link to (say)

http://weather.com/

Philip Taylor


kileda...@nospamnetscape.net wrote:


So when you create an email with a link in it lets say weather.com,
does the weather.com show up in SM attachments window?


No it does not ask me if I want the contents included as an attachment.
I create attachment in two way typing them in as www.domainname.com or
some times I will be at a site www.domainname.com and then right click
and choose send this page, in either case it will be added to the
attachment list.

Danny


Danny, not helping with your problem at all, but why do you want to send
a web page to someone, rather than *just* the link to the page??

Or am I mis-interpreting what you are trying to do??



When I am at a webpage and right click, then choose send this page, I do 
not recall it sending the page but instead it just sent the link. Or 
maybe it did sent the link and I just never noticed it in the attachment 
until recently when they started being bounced back.



Thanks,

Danny
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Re: OT Re: Email error message

2013-03-13 Thread Hartmut Figge
Danny Kile:
Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

[Send Page]
 A mail composition window opens with http://www.google.com/ in the
 body (complete with angle brackets!) and www.google.com/ in the
 attachment pane. Why the attachment, I don't know, but it has nothing to
 do with gmail. It's SeaMonkey that's doing that.


Thank you, I could not have said it better. So my question is why is 
SeaMonkey doing this? And to thing I thought I was going crazy.

How about File-Send Link? :)

Hartmut
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Re: OT Re: Email error message

2013-03-13 Thread Danny Kile

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Daniel wrote:


Danny, not helping with your problem at all, but why do you want to send
a web page to someone, rather than *just* the link to the page??

Or am I misinterpreting what you are trying to do??


Sounds right, but that's not what Send Page on the context menu does.

Try it -- open up, say, Google, right-click in a blank part of the page,
and choose Send Page.

A mail composition window opens with http://www.google.com/ in the
body (complete with angle brackets!) and www.google.com/ in the
attachment pane. Why the attachment, I don't know, but it has nothing to
do with gmail. It's SeaMonkey that's doing that.



Thank you, I could not have said it better. So my question is why is 
SeaMonkey doing this? And to thing I thought I was going crazy.


Danny,
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Re: OT Re: Email error message

2013-03-13 Thread Philip TAYLOR


kileda...@nospamnetscape.net wrote:

 Thank you, I could not have said it better. So my question is why is
 SeaMonkey doing this? 

Because that is what you asked it to do : Send Paqe,
not Send link to Paqe.

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Re: OT Re: Email error message

2013-03-13 Thread Danny Kile

Hartmut Figge wrote:

Danny Kile:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:


[Send Page]

A mail composition window opens with http://www.google.com/ in the
body (complete with angle brackets!) and www.google.com/ in the
attachment pane. Why the attachment, I don't know, but it has nothing to
do with gmail. It's SeaMonkey that's doing that.



Thank you, I could not have said it better. So my question is why is
SeaMonkey doing this? And to thing I thought I was going crazy.


How about File-Send Link? :)

Hartmut



OK, File-Send Link work the way file send page use to work. I could use 
file send link instead. My question is this then how can I get send link 
in the context right click menu?


Danny,

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Re: OT Re: Email error message

2013-03-13 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

Daniel wrote:


Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

?

Daniel wrote:


Danny, not helping with your problem at all, but why do you want
to send a web page to someone, rather than *just* the link to
the page??

Or am I misinterpreting what you are trying to do??


Sounds right, but that's not what Send Page on the context menu
does.

Try it -- open up, say, Google, right-click in a blank part of the
page, and choose Send Page.

A mail composition window opens with http://www.google.com/ in
the body (complete with angle brackets!) and www.google.com/ in the
attachment pane. Why the attachment, I don't know, but it has
nothing to do with gmail. It's SeaMonkey that's doing that.


Paul, have you actually tried doing as you suggest above (i.e. send
yourself the link *and* the attachment)??

With the link shown in the body, and the attachment show up in its
little window, I sent the e-mail to myself, and when received, the
attachment was shown below the line (i.e. show attachments in-line),
there was all this information that I had never seen before, e.g.

Part Quote Google Instant is unavailable. Press Enter to
search.Learn more
/support/websearch/bin/answer.py?answer=186645form=bbhl=en-AU
Google Instant is off due to connection speed. Press Enter to search.
Press Enter to search. Screen-reader users, click here to turn off
Google Instant.
/setprefs?prev=https://www.google.com.au/sig=0_-CJNiLe2iQIW3Iyosa8pVoyNavw%3Dsuggon=2

End part Quote

Amazing what the code can hide!


OK, yes, I did try, twice.

The first attempt was to my gmail address, and sure enough, Google 
blocked it. There was no notice to the recipient, but they did send a 
bounce message to the sender:


myaddr...@gmail.com: host gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[74.125.133.27] said:
552-5.7.0 Our system detected an illegal attachment on your 
message. Please
552-5.7.0 visit 
http://support.google.com/mail/bin/answer.py?answer=6590 to
552 5.7.0 review our attachment guidelines. hb9si12910005icc.13 - 
gsmtp (in

reply to end of DATA command)


The second attempt was to an address with a different ISP, and it 
arrived instantly. In this case, I saw what I described before -- the 
link in the body and the attachment in the attachment pane. When I 
tried to save the attachment, the suggested filename changed to 
www.google.com- with a hyphen instead of a slash, which may be due to 
Windows file naming limitations. The Save as type setting was all 
files (*.*). When I moused over the icon (I put it on my desktop), the 
tooltip said inter alia Type: COM- file, and when I tried to open it, 
Windows told me it didn't know what to do with that file type. I'm sure 
if I deleted the comma, it would've tried to process it as a command file.


Looking at the source code for that second message, I see:

MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: multipart/mixed; 
boundary=Boundary_(ID_07wHxNAFYRrRfC17l4Kqow)


...

This is a multi-part message in MIME format.

--Boundary_(ID_07wHxNAFYRrRfC17l4Kqow)
Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII; format=flowed
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT


http://www.google.com/

[my other sig deleted -- pbg]

--Boundary_(ID_07wHxNAFYRrRfC17l4Kqow)
Content-type: text/html; name=www.google.com/
Content-transfer-encoding: base64
Content-disposition: attachment; filename=www.google.com/

[88,712 characters of ASCII alphabet soup]

--Boundary_(ID_07wHxNAFYRrRfC17l4Kqow)--




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OT Re: Email error message

2013-03-11 Thread Geoff Welsh

fluent in HTML 4 since 2002 and I never knew that...thanks BTS!
GW

Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

.I always add a slash after
the TLD if I'm only linking to a domain name or a directory. See:

http://webdesign.about.com/od/beginningtutorials/f/why-urls-end-in-
slash.htm

If you send a link to a specific page, do not add a slash.

http://example.com/subdir/thispage.html  gets NO slash.



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Re: OT Re: Email error message

2013-03-11 Thread Beauregard T. Shagnasty
Geoff Welsh wrote:

 fluent in HTML 4 since 2002 and I never knew that...thanks BTS!

You're welcome.

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