Organised View of mails hierarchially: please make it more powerfully organised like tree view in file manager

2015-03-20 Thread abdallah

 In the beginning the items in the list were just mails.
Then they could be grouped of mails based on conversation (threaded view)

So now if these 'many' conversations were regrouped based on the 'few' other 
person we are dealing, it would be more helpful. Leading to grouping of mails 
compactly in hierarchically nested organized tree outline view,

somewhat like this:
# grouping based on the other person we are dealing with (similar to contacts 
in chat apps - Skype's recent, whatsapp)
## list of all threads inside this group
### All mails in that thread

with options somewhere maybe in context menu to collapse expand levels, so 
obviously the default view is collapsed showing the contact name, subject, 
snippet-(if enabled)

I guess this option is partially available in MS outlook in activity section, 
but it provides one group at a time and there is no overview. Also like 
grouping in file manager (windows explorer) where it shows all items in groups 
all at a time.
 
I don't want anything to be left for doubt, so here is an example of Organized 
listing of mails, Expanded view: (nested line folding anyone?!)

# person 1
## thread topic: subject line 1
### mail 1
### mail 2
## thread topic: subject line 2
### mail 1
### mail 2
### mail 3
...

# person  2
## thread topic: subject line 1
### mail 1
### mail 2
### mail 3
## thread topic: subject line 2
### mail 1
### mail 2
### mail 3
## thread topic: subject line 3
### mail 1
### mail 2
...

# person  3
## thread topic: subject line 1
### mail 1
### mail 2
## thread topic: subject line 2
### mail 1
### mail 2
### mail 3
### mail 4
### mail 5
...
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Re: Organised View of mails hierarchially: please make it more powerfully organised like tree view in file manager

2015-03-21 Thread mozilla-lists . mbourne

abdallah wrote:


  In the beginning the items in the list were just mails.
Then they could be grouped of mails based on conversation (threaded view)

So now if these 'many' conversations were regrouped based on the 'few' other 
person we are dealing, it would be more helpful. Leading to grouping of mails 
compactly in hierarchically nested organized tree outline view,

somewhat like this:
# grouping based on the other person we are dealing with (similar to contacts 
in chat apps - Skype's recent, whatsapp)
## list of all threads inside this group
### All mails in that thread


What should happen when a thread involves more than one other person 
(e.g. person 1 and person 3 in your example below?)




with options somewhere maybe in context menu to collapse expand levels, so 
obviously the default view is collapsed showing the contact name, subject, 
snippet-(if enabled)

I guess this option is partially available in MS outlook in activity section, 
but it provides one group at a time and there is no overview.


I'm not familiar with that feature of Outlook, but I guess the 
limitation of one group at a time is to avoid the problem of how to deal 
with messages which appear in more than one group.



Also like grouping in file manager (windows explorer) where it shows all items 
in groups all at a time.


There, each file or folder clearly falls into one group. You don't get a 
file with a name beginning with both A and G, or with a size both 
greater than 1MB and less than 1MB, etc. But you can have an email 
thread containing messages from both person 1 and person 3.



I don't want anything to be left for doubt, so here is an example of Organized 
listing of mails, Expanded view: (nested line folding anyone?!)

# person 1
## thread topic: subject line 1
### mail 1
### mail 2
## thread topic: subject line 2
### mail 1
### mail 2
### mail 3
...

# person  2
## thread topic: subject line 1
### mail 1
### mail 2
### mail 3
## thread topic: subject line 2
### mail 1
### mail 2
### mail 3
## thread topic: subject line 3
### mail 1
### mail 2
...

# person  3
## thread topic: subject line 1
### mail 1
### mail 2
## thread topic: subject line 2
### mail 1
### mail 2
### mail 3
### mail 4
### mail 5
...


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Re: Organised View of mails hierarchially: please make it more powerfully organised like tree view in file manager

2015-03-21 Thread abdallah
> feature of Outlook, I guess the 
> limitation of one group at a time is to avoid the problem of how to deal 
> with messages which appear in more than one group.

# thread involving more than one other person:

The mail can be showed in all the nodes of persons included in the mail using 
the 'labeling technique'.
 The item remains single but can be accessed and modified from all the included 
nodes.
 The feature is intelligently used by gmail and opera took it a step further by 
using labels as folders as well,
 so its both folders in tree view and also one item in as many places as you 
want by nesting labels.
but if persons in the list are many, considering that Chat apps like Whatsapp & 
Skype
 are handling it well by manual creation of 'multi-contact group',
similarly multi-addressed threads can be given Auto-generated name making group 
of persons.

The objective is plain: **chat apps have made it simple,
 reduced information overload and
 helped us stay on top of situation by giving a good overview**.

If even if this is not possible then maybe 'mail summaries' can have section 
listing persons based on recency
 such that each person's only latest mail is displayed.
 If we want to see all the mails of that person similar to expanding that 
person's node to all threads with that person,
 then we can use search and filter that person's mails instead.


# the option partially available in MS outlook in activity section, but without 
overview:
 
 in order to access it first a contact vcard is opened,
 then in the contact ribbon in show pane
 clicking 'Activities' displays all items such as mails, contacts, upcoming 
appointments, etc. with that person.
 
# grouping in file manager (windows explorer) where it shows all items in 
groups all at a time.

> There, each file or folder clearly falls into one group. You don't get a 
> file with a name beginning with both A and G, or with a size both 
> greater than 1MB and less than 1MB, etc. But you can have an email 
> thread containing messages from both person 1 and person 3.

By allowing it to appear in both the nodes of person 1 & person 3; similar to 
labeling
 if there are many persons then there can be an option to view
 only contacts in address book or to completely disable this feature.
 
 
 
 The bottomline is to borrow the feature refined to perfection by chat apps.
 Like Skype, Whatsapp, messenger
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