Re: 2.22.1 Install nag: Did not install.....!!

[David E. Ross]

On 11/26/2013 4:40 PM, azed13 wrote:
> I checked for the latest update and allowed Seamonkey to download the 
> update and install. I never do that, preferring to download the file and 
> do a manual install.
> 
> The instructions are to restart Seamonkey for the update to be 
> installed. I did that and got the message that "the update could not be 
> installed because Seamonkey is already running, etc." and a new 
> Seamonkey browser opens immediately after closing the message. I 
> restarted Seamonkey several times and the message just repeats.
> 
> I decided to do my usual and download the latest update, installed it 
> with high hopes. No joy! Every time I start Seamonkey I get the nag. Can 
> anyone tell me the name of the auto update file and where it might have 
> been downloaded to my computer?
> 
> I would like to find it and kill it. I have no wish to keep seeing this 
> message for an eternity. Thanks in advance,
> 
> azed13
> 
> BTW; a check with Windows "Task Manager" does not find any Seamonkey 
> session open except the one that displays the message.
> 

In the Task Manager, did you look on the Processes tab for
"seamonkey.exe" or only on the Applications tab for "SeaMonkey"?

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Re: 2.22.1 Install nag: Did not install.....!!

[azed13]

David E. Ross wrote:

On 11/26/2013 4:40 PM, azed13 wrote:

I checked for the latest update and allowed Seamonkey to download the
update and install. I never do that, preferring to download the file and
do a manual install.

The instructions are to restart Seamonkey for the update to be
installed. I did that and got the message that "the update could not be
installed because Seamonkey is already running, etc." and a new
Seamonkey browser opens immediately after closing the message. I
restarted Seamonkey several times and the message just repeats.

I decided to do my usual and download the latest update, installed it
with high hopes. No joy! Every time I start Seamonkey I get the nag. Can
anyone tell me the name of the auto update file and where it might have
been downloaded to my computer?

I would like to find it and kill it. I have no wish to keep seeing this
message for an eternity. Thanks in advance,

azed13

BTW; a check with Windows "Task Manager" does not find any Seamonkey
session open except the one that displays the message.



In the Task Manager, did you look on the Processes tab for
"seamonkey.exe" or only on the Applications tab for "SeaMonkey"?

I did look in processes, only the current instance, ending the process 
closed the current browser. No others were listed.

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Re: 2.22.1 Install nag: Did not install.....!!

[David E. Ross]

On 11/26/2013 10:22 PM, azed13 wrote:
> David E. Ross wrote:
>> On 11/26/2013 4:40 PM, azed13 wrote:
>>> I checked for the latest update and allowed Seamonkey to download the
>>> update and install. I never do that, preferring to download the file and
>>> do a manual install.
>>>
>>> The instructions are to restart Seamonkey for the update to be
>>> installed. I did that and got the message that "the update could not be
>>> installed because Seamonkey is already running, etc." and a new
>>> Seamonkey browser opens immediately after closing the message. I
>>> restarted Seamonkey several times and the message just repeats.
>>>
>>> I decided to do my usual and download the latest update, installed it
>>> with high hopes. No joy! Every time I start Seamonkey I get the nag. Can
>>> anyone tell me the name of the auto update file and where it might have
>>> been downloaded to my computer?
>>>
>>> I would like to find it and kill it. I have no wish to keep seeing this
>>> message for an eternity. Thanks in advance,
>>>
>>> azed13
>>>
>>> BTW; a check with Windows "Task Manager" does not find any Seamonkey
>>> session open except the one that displays the message.
>>>
>>
>> In the Task Manager, did you look on the Processes tab for
>> "seamonkey.exe" or only on the Applications tab for "SeaMonkey"?
>>
> I did look in processes, only the current instance, ending the process 
> closed the current browser. No others were listed.
> 

That is what I have been seeing, not with installs but generally.  It is
sporadic, about 1/4 of the time.

See the thread "SeaMonkey Shutdown" (started 25 Nov 2013) in this
newsgroup.

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Re: 2.22.1 Install nag: Did not install.....!!

[azed13]

David E. Ross wrote:

On 11/26/2013 10:22 PM, azed13 wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 11/26/2013 4:40 PM, azed13 wrote:

I checked for the latest update and allowed Seamonkey to download the
update and install. I never do that, preferring to download the file and
do a manual install.

The instructions are to restart Seamonkey for the update to be
installed. I did that and got the message that "the update could not be
installed because Seamonkey is already running, etc." and a new
Seamonkey browser opens immediately after closing the message. I
restarted Seamonkey several times and the message just repeats.

I decided to do my usual and download the latest update, installed it
with high hopes. No joy! Every time I start Seamonkey I get the nag. Can
anyone tell me the name of the auto update file and where it might have
been downloaded to my computer?

I would like to find it and kill it. I have no wish to keep seeing this
message for an eternity. Thanks in advance,

azed13

BTW; a check with Windows "Task Manager" does not find any Seamonkey
session open except the one that displays the message.



In the Task Manager, did you look on the Processes tab for
"seamonkey.exe" or only on the Applications tab for "SeaMonkey"?


I did look in processes, only the current instance, ending the process
closed the current browser. No others were listed.



That is what I have been seeing, not with installs but generally.  It is
sporadic, about 1/4 of the time.

See the thread "SeaMonkey Shutdown" (started 25 Nov 2013) in this
newsgroup.


Thanks David:

I read the thread but I'm not sure it is of any help. My system has been 
shut down for almost 24 hours yet after booting up for a new session, I 
still got the nag when I opened Seamonkey. I'm not a programmer or 
"code" wise but it seems improbable that Seamonkey was running while 
everything was shut down without power. And, I'm not much for creating 
new profiles. It's been years since the last time I did that and it was 
a horrible experience including recovering all my mail and bookmark 
files. Why that happened I don't know but at this stage I'm really much 
too old to risk what works well for everything else. I'll keep an eye on 
that thread to see if anything else pops up.


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Re: 2.22.1 Install nag: Did not install.....!!

[Daniel]

azed13 wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:





That is what I have been seeing, not with installs but generally.  It is
sporadic, about 1/4 of the time.

See the thread "SeaMonkey Shutdown" (started 25 Nov 2013) in this
newsgroup.


Thanks David:

I read the thread but I'm not sure it is of any help. My system has been
shut down for almost 24 hours yet after booting up for a new session, I
still got the nag when I opened Seamonkey. I'm not a programmer or
"code" wise but it seems improbable that Seamonkey was running while
everything was shut down without power. And, I'm not much for creating
new profiles. It's been years since the last time I did that and it was
a horrible experience including recovering all my mail and bookmark
files. Why that happened I don't know but at this stage I'm really much
too old to risk what works well for everything else. I'll keep an eye on
that thread to see if anything else pops up.

azed13


O.K., azed, is it possibly that just before you did the update/install, 
you had a problem with Windows/SeaMonkey which caused Windows to 
shutdown?? If so, it is possible that the previously running SeaMonkey 
process had written a file to your disk drive to stop you starting 
another (second) instance of SeaMonkey. If SM had closed normally, this 
file would have been erased.


The file is called something like parent.lock. With SM completely closed 
(including the quickstart function if you have it set up), do a Windows 
"Find File or Folder" looking for parent.*, then in Windows Explorer 
(making sure you ha Windows Explorer set up to display hidden folders), 
go to that location and delete parent.lock.


Report back.

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Re: 2.22.1 Install nag: Did not install.....!!

[azed13]

Daniel wrote:

azed13 wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:





That is what I have been seeing, not with installs but generally.  It is
sporadic, about 1/4 of the time.

See the thread "SeaMonkey Shutdown" (started 25 Nov 2013) in this
newsgroup.


Thanks David:

I read the thread but I'm not sure it is of any help. My system has been
shut down for almost 24 hours yet after booting up for a new session, I
still got the nag when I opened Seamonkey. I'm not a programmer or
"code" wise but it seems improbable that Seamonkey was running while
everything was shut down without power. And, I'm not much for creating
new profiles. It's been years since the last time I did that and it was
a horrible experience including recovering all my mail and bookmark
files. Why that happened I don't know but at this stage I'm really much
too old to risk what works well for everything else. I'll keep an eye on
that thread to see if anything else pops up.

azed13


O.K., azed, is it possibly that just before you did the update/install,
you had a problem with Windows/SeaMonkey which caused Windows to
shutdown?? If so, it is possible that the previously running SeaMonkey
process had written a file to your disk drive to stop you starting
another (second) instance of SeaMonkey. If SM had closed normally, this
file would have been erased.

The file is called something like parent.lock. With SM completely closed
(including the quickstart function if you have it set up), do a Windows
"Find File or Folder" looking for parent.*, then in Windows Explorer
(making sure you ha Windows Explorer set up to display hidden folders),
go to that location and delete parent.lock.

Report back.


Daniel:

I can't recall ever having a Windows shutdown while using Seamonkey. 
BTW, I apologize for not stating that I am on Windows 7 Pro, X64 service 
pack 1. I did a search  anyway and found 43 files with some variation of 
"parent" buried in them. None were in any Seamonkey folder and the 
newest one is dated January 2013. This is long before the problem 
started. I still get the nag at each start of Seamonkey and the message 
seems to indicate that the auto-update install file is somewhere in my 
system and still trying to install 2.22.1 which I have done manually.


Oops! I missed the instruction to search with Seamonkey closed. I will 
search again and report back if the results are any different. Per my 
original query, I would still be interested in where that auto install 
file is located.


azed13
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Re: 2.22.1 Install nag: Did not install.....!!

[Daniel]

azed13 wrote:

Daniel wrote:

azed13 wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:





That is what I have been seeing, not with installs but generally.
It is
sporadic, about 1/4 of the time.

See the thread "SeaMonkey Shutdown" (started 25 Nov 2013) in this
newsgroup.


Thanks David:

I read the thread but I'm not sure it is of any help. My system has been
shut down for almost 24 hours yet after booting up for a new session, I
still got the nag when I opened Seamonkey. I'm not a programmer or
"code" wise but it seems improbable that Seamonkey was running while
everything was shut down without power. And, I'm not much for creating
new profiles. It's been years since the last time I did that and it was
a horrible experience including recovering all my mail and bookmark
files. Why that happened I don't know but at this stage I'm really much
too old to risk what works well for everything else. I'll keep an eye on
that thread to see if anything else pops up.

azed13


O.K., azed, is it possibly that just before you did the update/install,
you had a problem with Windows/SeaMonkey which caused Windows to
shutdown?? If so, it is possible that the previously running SeaMonkey
process had written a file to your disk drive to stop you starting
another (second) instance of SeaMonkey. If SM had closed normally, this
file would have been erased.

The file is called something like parent.lock. With SM completely closed
(including the quickstart function if you have it set up), do a Windows
"Find File or Folder" looking for parent.*, then in Windows Explorer
(making sure you ha Windows Explorer set up to display hidden folders),
go to that location and delete parent.lock.

Report back.


Daniel:

I can't recall ever having a Windows shutdown while using Seamonkey.
BTW, I apologize for not stating that I am on Windows 7 Pro, X64 service
pack 1. I did a search  anyway and found 43 files with some variation of
"parent" buried in them. None were in any Seamonkey folder and the
newest one is dated January 2013. This is long before the problem
started. I still get the nag at each start of Seamonkey and the message
seems to indicate that the auto-update install file is somewhere in my
system and still trying to install 2.22.1 which I have done manually.

Oops! I missed the instruction to search with Seamonkey closed. I will
search again and report back if the results are any different. Per my
original query, I would still be interested in where that auto install
file is located.

azed13
azed, I think the auto-install files having an ending something like 
.mac, so if someone were to post the correct ending, you could do a 
Windows search for it and delete it.


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Re: 2.22.1 Install nag: Did not install.....!!

[azed13]

Daniel wrote:

azed13 wrote:

Daniel wrote:

azed13 wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:





That is what I have been seeing, not with installs but generally.
It is
sporadic, about 1/4 of the time.

See the thread "SeaMonkey Shutdown" (started 25 Nov 2013) in this
newsgroup.


Thanks David:

I read the thread but I'm not sure it is of any help. My system has
been
shut down for almost 24 hours yet after booting up for a new session, I
still got the nag when I opened Seamonkey. I'm not a programmer or
"code" wise but it seems improbable that Seamonkey was running while
everything was shut down without power. And, I'm not much for creating
new profiles. It's been years since the last time I did that and it was
a horrible experience including recovering all my mail and bookmark
files. Why that happened I don't know but at this stage I'm really much
too old to risk what works well for everything else. I'll keep an
eye on
that thread to see if anything else pops up.

azed13


O.K., azed, is it possibly that just before you did the update/install,
you had a problem with Windows/SeaMonkey which caused Windows to
shutdown?? If so, it is possible that the previously running SeaMonkey
process had written a file to your disk drive to stop you starting
another (second) instance of SeaMonkey. If SM had closed normally, this
file would have been erased.

The file is called something like parent.lock. With SM completely closed
(including the quickstart function if you have it set up), do a Windows
"Find File or Folder" looking for parent.*, then in Windows Explorer
(making sure you ha Windows Explorer set up to display hidden folders),
go to that location and delete parent.lock.

Report back.


Daniel:

I can't recall ever having a Windows shutdown while using Seamonkey.
BTW, I apologize for not stating that I am on Windows 7 Pro, X64 service
pack 1. I did a search  anyway and found 43 files with some variation of
"parent" buried in them. None were in any Seamonkey folder and the
newest one is dated January 2013. This is long before the problem
started. I still get the nag at each start of Seamonkey and the message
seems to indicate that the auto-update install file is somewhere in my
system and still trying to install 2.22.1 which I have done manually.

Oops! I missed the instruction to search with Seamonkey closed. I will
search again and report back if the results are any different. Per my
original query, I would still be interested in where that auto install
file is located.

azed13

azed, I think the auto-install files having an ending something like
.mac, so if someone were to post the correct ending, you could do a
Windows search for it and delete it.



Daniel:

Thanks again. Since I last posted, while working a different program (no 
Seamonkey session open and off line) suddenly a dialogue box popped up 
stating that the Seamonkey update failed for some reason I don't recall 
asking to download the full or complete file. I clicked OK and the 
dialogue box changed to connecting to server and downloading. I don't 
remember the full details. I do know that after about 15 minutes nothing 
happened and I cancelled the operation. My mystery problem appears to 
have been solved by another mystery. I no longer get the "nag" message. 
However, Seamonkey seems to take much longer to open. I'm not sure if 
that is because of Seamonkey or something on my system. I will watch 
what happens for a period of time to see if this is a persistent 
problem. Meanwhile, my thanks to all who offered assistance.


azed13
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Re: 2.22.1 Install nag: Did not install.....!!

[Daniel]

azed13 wrote:

Daniel wrote:

azed13 wrote:

Daniel wrote:

azed13 wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:





That is what I have been seeing, not with installs but generally.
It is
sporadic, about 1/4 of the time.

See the thread "SeaMonkey Shutdown" (started 25 Nov 2013) in this
newsgroup.


Thanks David:

I read the thread but I'm not sure it is of any help. My system has
been
shut down for almost 24 hours yet after booting up for a new
session, I
still got the nag when I opened Seamonkey. I'm not a programmer or
"code" wise but it seems improbable that Seamonkey was running while
everything was shut down without power. And, I'm not much for creating
new profiles. It's been years since the last time I did that and it
was
a horrible experience including recovering all my mail and bookmark
files. Why that happened I don't know but at this stage I'm really
much
too old to risk what works well for everything else. I'll keep an
eye on
that thread to see if anything else pops up.

azed13


O.K., azed, is it possibly that just before you did the update/install,
you had a problem with Windows/SeaMonkey which caused Windows to
shutdown?? If so, it is possible that the previously running SeaMonkey
process had written a file to your disk drive to stop you starting
another (second) instance of SeaMonkey. If SM had closed normally, this
file would have been erased.

The file is called something like parent.lock. With SM completely
closed
(including the quickstart function if you have it set up), do a Windows
"Find File or Folder" looking for parent.*, then in Windows Explorer
(making sure you ha Windows Explorer set up to display hidden folders),
go to that location and delete parent.lock.

Report back.


Daniel:

I can't recall ever having a Windows shutdown while using Seamonkey.
BTW, I apologize for not stating that I am on Windows 7 Pro, X64 service
pack 1. I did a search  anyway and found 43 files with some variation of
"parent" buried in them. None were in any Seamonkey folder and the
newest one is dated January 2013. This is long before the problem
started. I still get the nag at each start of Seamonkey and the message
seems to indicate that the auto-update install file is somewhere in my
system and still trying to install 2.22.1 which I have done manually.

Oops! I missed the instruction to search with Seamonkey closed. I will
search again and report back if the results are any different. Per my
original query, I would still be interested in where that auto install
file is located.

azed13

azed, I think the auto-install files having an ending something like
.mac, so if someone were to post the correct ending, you could do a
Windows search for it and delete it.



Daniel:

Thanks again. Since I last posted, while working a different program (no
Seamonkey session open and off line) suddenly a dialogue box popped up
stating that the Seamonkey update failed for some reason I don't recall
asking to download the full or complete file. I clicked OK and the
dialogue box changed to connecting to server and downloading. I don't
remember the full details. I do know that after about 15 minutes nothing
happened and I cancelled the operation. My mystery problem appears to
have been solved by another mystery. I no longer get the "nag" message.
However, Seamonkey seems to take much longer to open. I'm not sure if
that is because of Seamonkey or something on my system. I will watch
what happens for a period of time to see if this is a persistent
problem. Meanwhile, my thanks to all who offered assistance.

azed13


Computers!!

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