Re: 2.6.1 stored passwords - multiple redundant repeats over and over

2012-01-05 Thread DoctorBill

DoctorBill wrote:

Cute title - I just wanted to show the redundancy described below.

I just updated to SeaMonkey 2.6.1 from SeaMonkey 1.1.

My stored passwords that came over from SM 1.1 are there but now require
me to click on the Username before one comes up to choose.

When I click on Username", many have multiples of the same Username !

I went to stored passwords, and one I went to often before now has SIX
listings of the very same username and password for exactly the same link.

Was this a bug? Did I do something wrong ? Why would it store repeats of
the very same thing.

Should I delete all but one of them ?

I don't want to delete anything until I hear from the Expurts

DoctorBill



So when I click in the "Username" box, I click on either one or one of 
the four, it works.


What is the effect of checking the "Remember Me" box also ?

Is another set saved or does this just direct the saving a a cookie ?

Some web sites need to be re-logged into every 5 minutes it seems.
http://castboolits.gunloads.com/forumdisplay.php?s=5ee1a000fd2e7ff8ef01ba1ad53eac70&f=38

What is THAT all about ?  Why ?

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Re: 2.6.1 stored passwords - multiple redundant repeats over and over

2012-01-05 Thread Axel Grude
On 03/01/12 18:40, DoctorBill wrote:
> W3BNR wrote:
>> On 1/3/2012 12:36 PM DoctorBill submitted the following:
>>> W3BNR wrote:
 On 1/2/2012 10:43 PM DoctorBill submitted the following:
> DoctorBill wrote:
>> DoctorBill wrote:
>>> DoctorBill wrote:
 Cute title - I just wanted to show the redundancy described below.

 I just updated to SeaMonkey 2.6.1 from SeaMonkey 1.1.

 My stored passwords that came over from SM 1.1 are there but now 
 require
 me to click on the Username before one comes up to choose.

 When I click on Username", many have multiples of the same Username !

 I went to stored passwords, and one I went to often before now has SIX
 listings of the very same username and password for exactly the same
 link.

 Was this a bug? Did I do something wrong ? Why would it store repeats 
 of
 the very same thing.

 Should I delete all but one of them ?

 I don't want to delete anything until I hear from the Expurts

 DoctorBill

>>>
>>> Oh how cute !
>>> There are two of everything or more.
>>> Once you get down to two of them, if you highlight one and press delete,
>>> both of them are erased
>>>
>>> Wonderful.
>>>
>>> DoctorBill
>>>
>>
>>  From the numerous responses, I would suppose:
>>
>> 1. No one has had this problem before me.
>>
>> 2. No one knows what is going on.
>>
>> 3. No one G.A.S.
>>
>> I guess it is #3.
>>
>> DoctorBill
>>
>
> I was in the process of copying (by hand typing) all my passwords over to 
> a list
> on WORD...when XP Security 2012 hit my system.
>
> OMG - don't let that thing get you !  Long story - hideous !
> Still have to run a procedure on bleepingcomputer.com to totally clean it 
> out.
> http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/virus-removal/remove-xp-internet-security-2012
>
> Anyway - I am going to get all my passwords (can't get them printed out 
> of SM
> 1.1 - at least I don't know how) and then erase the 2.6.1 passwords files 
> and
> start all over anew with all of the sites.
>
> That should stop this two of everything stuff I get now.
> I have to click on the username box to get anything to show then I get 
> two of
> the same thing shown.
>
> Is this normal for 2.6.1 or am I doing the right thing ?
>
> I don't want to reload 2.1 and inport and then import to 2.6.1...LORD !
>
> DoctorBill
>

 Bill, back in 2010 I noticed that I had what I thought were duplicated 
 entries
 of host/user/passwords in my system.  But, upon closer inspection the 
 submit
 URL's were different.  Look to see if one is http:// and the so called 
 duplicate
 is https://


>>>
>>> Nope - they are absolutely identical !
>>> Nope - they are absolutely identical !
>>>
>>> For instance, I order cigars from
>>> http://www.coronacigar.com
>>> and there are two identical lines in the "Password Manager" list with
>>> identical usernames and passwords.
>>>
>>> DoctorBill
>>> DoctorBill
>>> (lol)
>>>
>>
>> OK - "Password Manager" does NOT show you the URL's of the Host.
>> I suggest you download the file at:
>> http://the-edmeister.com/firefox_info/articles/List_Firefox-3_Passwords.htm
>> and run it.  It will show "HOST", "USERNAME", "PASSWORD", and "SUBMIT URL"
>>
>> Go to the URL above.  Save page as "Whatever.htm" someplace on your hard 
>> drive.
>> Then double click on "Whatever.htm"  Answer the question, and viola you'll 
>> have
>> a listing of all your Hosts, usernames, password, and submit urls.  It DOES 
>> work
>> on SM 2.5.1.
>>
>> Check your SUBMIT URL column for HTTP and HTTPS.  They will have the same 
>> HOST,
>> USERNAME, and PASSWORD, but ARE two different entries.
>>
> 
> I beg to differ with you !
> 
> TOOLS | Password Manager | Manage Stored Passwords | Show Passwords (lower 
> right
> button) | YES
> 
> I would post a 'screensave' on an image hosting site to show you, but then I 
> would be
> giving away my usernames and passwords !
> 
> I am using 2.6.1 - and I am not insane.   Not yet, anyway
> 
> DoctorBill
> 
See my previous reply about Saved Password Editor. There is more to the 
Password Store
than meets the eye (Password Manager is lying to you... or at least omitting 
large
sections of the truth).

hth
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Re: 2.6.1 stored passwords - multiple redundant repeats over and over

2012-01-05 Thread Axel Grude
On 03/01/12 17:36, DoctorBill wrote:
> W3BNR wrote:
>> On 1/2/2012 10:43 PM DoctorBill submitted the following:
>>> DoctorBill wrote:
 DoctorBill wrote:
> DoctorBill wrote:
>> Cute title - I just wanted to show the redundancy described below.
>>
>> I just updated to SeaMonkey 2.6.1 from SeaMonkey 1.1.
>>
>> My stored passwords that came over from SM 1.1 are there but now require
>> me to click on the Username before one comes up to choose.
>>
>> When I click on Username", many have multiples of the same Username !
>>
>> I went to stored passwords, and one I went to often before now has SIX
>> listings of the very same username and password for exactly the same
>> link.
>>
>> Was this a bug? Did I do something wrong ? Why would it store repeats of
>> the very same thing.
>>
>> Should I delete all but one of them ?
>>
>> I don't want to delete anything until I hear from the Expurts
>>
>> DoctorBill
>>
>
> Oh how cute !
> There are two of everything or more.
> Once you get down to two of them, if you highlight one and press delete,
> both of them are erased
>
> Wonderful.
>
> DoctorBill
>

From the numerous responses, I would suppose:

 1. No one has had this problem before me.

 2. No one knows what is going on.

 3. No one G.A.S.

 I guess it is #3.

 DoctorBill

>>>
>>> I was in the process of copying (by hand typing) all my passwords over to a 
>>> list
>>> on WORD...when XP Security 2012 hit my system.
>>>
>>> OMG - don't let that thing get you !  Long story - hideous !
>>> Still have to run a procedure on bleepingcomputer.com to totally clean it 
>>> out.
>>> http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/virus-removal/remove-xp-internet-security-2012
>>>
>>> Anyway - I am going to get all my passwords (can't get them printed out of 
>>> SM
>>> 1.1 - at least I don't know how) and then erase the 2.6.1 passwords files 
>>> and
>>> start all over anew with all of the sites.
>>>
>>> That should stop this two of everything stuff I get now.
>>> I have to click on the username box to get anything to show then I get two 
>>> of
>>> the same thing shown.
>>>
>>> Is this normal for 2.6.1 or am I doing the right thing ?
>>>
>>> I don't want to reload 2.1 and inport and then import to 2.6.1...LORD !
>>>
>>> DoctorBill
>>>
>>
>> Bill, back in 2010 I noticed that I had what I thought were duplicated 
>> entries
>> of host/user/passwords in my system.  But, upon closer inspection the submit
>> URL's were different.  Look to see if one is http:// and the so called 
>> duplicate
>> is https://
>>
>>
> 
> Nope - they are absolutely identical !
> Nope - they are absolutely identical !
> 
> For instance, I order cigars from
> http://www.coronacigar.com
> and there are two identical lines in the "Password Manager" list with
> identical usernames and passwords.
> 
> DoctorBill
> DoctorBill
> (lol)
> 
What you see is identical. Please use "Saved Password Editor" to confirm if they
really are. There are some hidden fields (such as username field) that are not
displayed by the password manager; SPE will help.

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Re: 2.6.1 stored passwords - multiple redundant repeats over and over

2012-01-05 Thread Axel Grude
On 03/01/12 03:43, DoctorBill wrote:
> DoctorBill wrote:
>> DoctorBill wrote:
>>> DoctorBill wrote:
 Cute title - I just wanted to show the redundancy described below.

 I just updated to SeaMonkey 2.6.1 from SeaMonkey 1.1.

 My stored passwords that came over from SM 1.1 are there but now require
 me to click on the Username before one comes up to choose.

 When I click on Username", many have multiples of the same Username !

 I went to stored passwords, and one I went to often before now has SIX
 listings of the very same username and password for exactly the same
 link.

 Was this a bug? Did I do something wrong ? Why would it store repeats of
 the very same thing.

 Should I delete all but one of them ?

 I don't want to delete anything until I hear from the Expurts

 DoctorBill

>>>
>>> Oh how cute !
>>> There are two of everything or more.
>>> Once you get down to two of them, if you highlight one and press delete,
>>> both of them are erased
>>>
>>> Wonderful.
>>>
>>> DoctorBill
>>>
>>
>>  From the numerous responses, I would suppose:
>>
>> 1. No one has had this problem before me.
>>
>> 2. No one knows what is going on.
>>
>> 3. No one G.A.S.
>>
>> I guess it is #3.
>>
>> DoctorBill
>>
> 
> I was in the process of copying (by hand typing) all my passwords over to a 
> list on
> WORD...when XP Security 2012 hit my system.

DON'T !

do this.

Use my extension QuickPasswords instead. Select all and then rightclick - copy 
seleted
line info - paste the whole shebang to an Excel spread sheet.

Also, (with QuickPasswords installed) check whether the "magic wand" resolves 
your
problem.

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Re: 2.6.1 stored passwords - multiple redundant repeats over and over

2012-01-04 Thread W3BNR
On 1/3/2012 10:23 PM DoctorBill submitted the following:

   < Snippity, Snip, Snip, Snip >
> 
> One last thing.
> 
> If the entries are actually different, why won't the Password Manager in 2.6.1
> allow me to delete just one of them ?
> 
> As I said, if I tried to delete one of the so called duplicate pairs, they 
> both
> (everything) gets deleted.
> 
> I'll leave it at that.
> 

< More Snips >

OK - I'll try to make sense of this.

When you go to, let's say, a financial webpage and log in you are furnishing a
user/password to the main log-in page.

This page after it accepts your log-in information usually has links to other
pages such as: Your Preferences; Monthly Statement; Bills Paid; etc.

To facilitate your operation the user/password you logged-in with is passed to
the Sub-domain (URL of the link)saving you the time and effort to re-log into
the new domain.

This now creates an entry in your Password file which will have the same Host
Name as the original log-in site, but with a sub-domain of the link's URL.

Now you have two entries with the original Host Name.

Go to another page following a link and the same process will occur. Now you
will now have three entries with the original Host Name URL: and a different
Sub-domain URL.

Think of this file as a spread sheet.  Column 1 has the Host Name URL, Column 2
has the User Name; Column 3 has the Password, and Column 4 has the Sub-Domain 
URL.

When you say 'Delete Host Name URL entry' the system looks down Column 1 and
deletes all rows of the entered Hostname since other info in the rows is now
invalid.

Not knowing if there is only one of these names in the spreadsheet, the software
continues down the rows and removes ALL entries with  the delete URL name.

Simple - No? (Not necessarily exactly the way SM works but probably close).



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Re: 2.6.1 stored passwords - multiple redundant repeats over and over

2012-01-03 Thread DoctorBill

W3BNR wrote:

On 1/3/2012 8:43 PM DoctorBill submitted the following:

W3BNR wrote:

On 1/3/2012 4:42 PM DoctorBill submitted the following:

W3BNR wrote:

On 1/3/2012 3:53 PM DoctorBill submitted the following:

W3BNR wrote:

On 1/3/2012 1:20 PM W3BNR submitted the following:
\
< SNIPPED


OK - "Password Manager" does NOT show you the URL's of the Host.
I suggest you download the file at:
http://the-edmeister.com/firefox_info/articles/List_Firefox-3_Passwords.htm
and run it.  It will show "HOST", "USERNAME", "PASSWORD", and "SUBMIT URL"

Go to the URL above.  Save page as "Whatever.htm" someplace on your hard
drive.
Then double click on "Whatever.htm"  Answer the question, and viola you'll
have
a listing of all your Hosts, usernames, password, and submit urls.  It DOES
work
on SM 2.5.1.

Check your SUBMIT URL column for HTTP and HTTPS.  They will have the same
HOST,
USERNAME, and PASSWORD, but ARE two different entries.



Minor error is above - change SM 2.5.1 to SM 2.6.1.



I printed out my Links - Username - Passwords (eight pages) and SURE
ENOUGH, it
shows many, many with exact duplicate entries !

I suppose this is now a SM 2.6.1 "BUG" !

I cannot erase just one where duplicates are shown - if I try, then both are
erased.

I would post the list just to show you all, but that is like posting one's
bank
records.

DoctorBill



No need to - I just looked at mine with "Password Manager" and on some of the
domains there *ARE* duplicate entries.  Interesting.  These duplicate
entries do
NOT show or print when using the .htm program I mentioned about.  Sorry I took
off on the wrong foot with the problem - I haven't used Password Manager enough
to look at things.



W3BNR -

"These duplicate entries do NOT show or print when using the .htm program I
mentioned about."

Oh yes they do !  My printout has many of them !

Again - is this a SM 2.6.1 "BUG" that needs attention !
Maybe the development team need to examine this issue...

BTW - Is W3BNR a Ham Radio License Number ?
My Dad was W9KPD back in the 40's.

DoctorBill




Weird - my printout from the .htm page only shows one each for those that have
both a http:// and https:// URL.  All others only show up once.  I've gone
through them - put them in an ascii editor and A-Z sorted them.

Some *DO* have the same Host/User/Password *BUT* the "Submit URL" is different.
Unfortunately Password Manager does not show the "Submit URL".  It only shows
the "Host URL" ("Website").

Those with "NULL" as a "Submit URL" appear only one time unless there is both a
http:// and https:// in the "Host URL" (Website).

Also those where the "Host URL" (Website) is the same as the "Submit URL' only
show once unless there is both http:// and https:// in the "Host URL" (Website)

Note;  "Host URL" is from the .htm page and "Website" is the term used by
Password Manager.

Yes, W3BNR is a ham call.  I've been licensed since 1955. (No fair trying to
guess how old I am).  And I've been in the data processing/computer field since
1959.



If you say so.

I haven't got a clue what you said, however.

I know 'Username' and 'Password'.

The rest - Technical Jargon.

All I know is, that I have to put up with double (and I found quadruple)
username and password entries in the usernames thrown up when I click on a
site's login.

Have fun with this you developers

Thanks for your efforts to edikate me.

DoctorBill



Well, I'll go out on a limb and say "Don't remove any unless you're prepared to
enter user and password the next time you vist the webpage".

Password Manager is not showing the entire entry and there are (based on my
looking at them) differences between each supposedly 'duplicated' entry.

I'll let the experts look at it.  I made my comments on the bug listing.

Have a HAPPY NEW YEAR in any case.



OK.

One last thing.

If the entries are actually different, why won't the Password Manager in 
2.6.1 allow me to delete just one of them ?


As I said, if I tried to delete one of the so called duplicate pairs, 
they both (everything) gets deleted.


I'll leave it at that.

My Dad had his "Handle" as W9KPD until he moved to California to be the 
Director of Hallicrafter's Radio and then the Gubment made him get a new 
License Number (I don't remember it).  He was pissed !


He was Director Of Engineering at Hallicrafter's Radio in Chicago for a 
long time (I was a kid then).  They had big Strategic Air Command 
contracts with the Air Force.  I had to climb his telephone poles at the 
corners of our property and string long antennas and put a tall whip 
antenna on one pole - and I have vertigo !


DoctorBill

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Re: 2.6.1 stored passwords - multiple redundant repeats over and over

2012-01-03 Thread W3BNR
On 1/3/2012 8:43 PM DoctorBill submitted the following:
> W3BNR wrote:
>> On 1/3/2012 4:42 PM DoctorBill submitted the following:
>>> W3BNR wrote:
 On 1/3/2012 3:53 PM DoctorBill submitted the following:
> W3BNR wrote:
>> On 1/3/2012 1:20 PM W3BNR submitted the following:
>> \
>>>>
>>> OK - "Password Manager" does NOT show you the URL's of the Host.
>>> I suggest you download the file at:
>>> http://the-edmeister.com/firefox_info/articles/List_Firefox-3_Passwords.htm
>>> and run it.  It will show "HOST", "USERNAME", "PASSWORD", and "SUBMIT 
>>> URL"
>>>
>>> Go to the URL above.  Save page as "Whatever.htm" someplace on your hard
>>> drive.
>>> Then double click on "Whatever.htm"  Answer the question, and viola 
>>> you'll
>>> have
>>> a listing of all your Hosts, usernames, password, and submit urls.  It 
>>> DOES
>>> work
>>> on SM 2.5.1.
>>>
>>> Check your SUBMIT URL column for HTTP and HTTPS.  They will have the 
>>> same
>>> HOST,
>>> USERNAME, and PASSWORD, but ARE two different entries.
>>>
>>
>> Minor error is above - change SM 2.5.1 to SM 2.6.1.
>>
>
> I printed out my Links - Username - Passwords (eight pages) and SURE
> ENOUGH, it
> shows many, many with exact duplicate entries !
>
> I suppose this is now a SM 2.6.1 "BUG" !
>
> I cannot erase just one where duplicates are shown - if I try, then both 
> are
> erased.
>
> I would post the list just to show you all, but that is like posting one's
> bank
> records.
>
> DoctorBill
>

 No need to - I just looked at mine with "Password Manager" and on some of 
 the
 domains there *ARE* duplicate entries.  Interesting.  These duplicate
 entries do
 NOT show or print when using the .htm program I mentioned about.  Sorry I 
 took
 off on the wrong foot with the problem - I haven't used Password Manager 
 enough
 to look at things.

>>>
>>> W3BNR -
>>>
>>> "These duplicate entries do NOT show or print when using the .htm program I
>>> mentioned about."
>>>
>>> Oh yes they do !  My printout has many of them !
>>>
>>> Again - is this a SM 2.6.1 "BUG" that needs attention !
>>> Maybe the development team need to examine this issue...
>>>
>>> BTW - Is W3BNR a Ham Radio License Number ?
>>> My Dad was W9KPD back in the 40's.
>>>
>>> DoctorBill
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Weird - my printout from the .htm page only shows one each for those that 
>> have
>> both a http:// and https:// URL.  All others only show up once.  I've gone
>> through them - put them in an ascii editor and A-Z sorted them.
>>
>> Some *DO* have the same Host/User/Password *BUT* the "Submit URL" is 
>> different.
>> Unfortunately Password Manager does not show the "Submit URL".  It only shows
>> the "Host URL" ("Website").
>>
>> Those with "NULL" as a "Submit URL" appear only one time unless there is 
>> both a
>> http:// and https:// in the "Host URL" (Website).
>>
>> Also those where the "Host URL" (Website) is the same as the "Submit URL' 
>> only
>> show once unless there is both http:// and https:// in the "Host URL" 
>> (Website)
>>
>> Note;  "Host URL" is from the .htm page and "Website" is the term used by
>> Password Manager.
>>
>> Yes, W3BNR is a ham call.  I've been licensed since 1955. (No fair trying to
>> guess how old I am).  And I've been in the data processing/computer field 
>> since
>> 1959.
>>
> 
> If you say so.
> 
> I haven't got a clue what you said, however.
> 
> I know 'Username' and 'Password'.
> 
> The rest - Technical Jargon.
> 
> All I know is, that I have to put up with double (and I found quadruple)
> username and password entries in the usernames thrown up when I click on a
> site's login.
> 
> Have fun with this you developers
> 
> Thanks for your efforts to edikate me.
> 
> DoctorBill
> 

Well, I'll go out on a limb and say "Don't remove any unless you're prepared to
enter user and password the next time you vist the webpage".

Password Manager is not showing the entire entry and there are (based on my
looking at them) differences between each supposedly 'duplicated' entry.

I'll let the experts look at it.  I made my comments on the bug listing.

Have a HAPPY NEW YEAR in any case.

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Re: 2.6.1 stored passwords - multiple redundant repeats over and over

2012-01-03 Thread DoctorBill

W3BNR wrote:

On 1/3/2012 4:42 PM DoctorBill submitted the following:

W3BNR wrote:

On 1/3/2012 3:53 PM DoctorBill submitted the following:

W3BNR wrote:

On 1/3/2012 1:20 PM W3BNR submitted the following:
\
   

Re: 2.6.1 stored passwords - multiple redundant repeats over and over

2012-01-03 Thread W3BNR
On 1/3/2012 4:43 PM DoctorBill submitted the following:
> W3BNR wrote:
>> On 1/3/2012 4:06 PM W3BNR submitted the following:
>>> On 1/3/2012 3:53 PM DoctorBill submitted the following:
 W3BNR wrote:
> On 1/3/2012 1:20 PM W3BNR submitted the following:
> \
>   <   SNIPPED
>>
>> OK - "Password Manager" does NOT show you the URL's of the Host.
>> I suggest you download the file at:
>> http://the-edmeister.com/firefox_info/articles/List_Firefox-3_Passwords.htm
>> and run it.  It will show "HOST", "USERNAME", "PASSWORD", and "SUBMIT 
>> URL"
>>
>> Go to the URL above.  Save page as "Whatever.htm" someplace on your hard
>> drive.
>> Then double click on "Whatever.htm"  Answer the question, and viola 
>> you'll
>> have
>> a listing of all your Hosts, usernames, password, and submit urls.  It
>> DOES work
>> on SM 2.5.1.
>>
>> Check your SUBMIT URL column for HTTP and HTTPS.  They will have the same
>> HOST,
>> USERNAME, and PASSWORD, but ARE two different entries.
>>
>
> Minor error is above - change SM 2.5.1 to SM 2.6.1.
>

 I printed out my Links - Username - Passwords (eight pages) and SURE 
 ENOUGH, it
 shows many, many with exact duplicate entries !

 I suppose this is now a SM 2.6.1 "BUG" !

 I cannot erase just one where duplicates are shown - if I try, then both 
 are
 erased.

 I would post the list just to show you all, but that is like posting one's 
 bank
 records.

 DoctorBill

>>>
>>> No need to - I just looked at mine with "Password Manager" and on some of 
>>> the
>>> domains there *ARE* duplicate entries.  Interesting.  These duplicate 
>>> entries do
>>> NOT show or print when using the .htm program I mentioned about.  Sorry I 
>>> took
>>> off on the wrong foot with the problem - I haven't used Password Manager 
>>> enough
>>> to look at things.
>>>
>>
>> And further investigation shows an open bug on Firefox 3.6 and 3.7 for this
>> problem.  Bug 533065
>> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=533065
>>
>> And for SeaMonkey 2.5 check out bug is 712106
>> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=712106
>>
>>
> 
> W#BNR - I didn't see this post before I replied to the last one
> 
> DoctorBill
> 
> 
> 
I think my comments in my e-mail at 7:52pm should explain why those bugs exist.
 I don't think they are bugs - I think it's a problem with Password Manager in
not giving *ALL* the information about the site.  The .html page format *DOES*
explain why there are "duplicate" entries.  Their not really the same.  They are
not duplicates.

Any SM programmers reading this thread?

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Re: 2.6.1 stored passwords - multiple redundant repeats over and over

2012-01-03 Thread W3BNR
On 1/3/2012 4:42 PM DoctorBill submitted the following:
> W3BNR wrote:
>> On 1/3/2012 3:53 PM DoctorBill submitted the following:
>>> W3BNR wrote:
 On 1/3/2012 1:20 PM W3BNR submitted the following:
 \
   <   SNIPPED
>
> OK - "Password Manager" does NOT show you the URL's of the Host.
> I suggest you download the file at:
> http://the-edmeister.com/firefox_info/articles/List_Firefox-3_Passwords.htm
> and run it.  It will show "HOST", "USERNAME", "PASSWORD", and "SUBMIT URL"
>
> Go to the URL above.  Save page as "Whatever.htm" someplace on your hard
> drive.
> Then double click on "Whatever.htm"  Answer the question, and viola you'll
> have
> a listing of all your Hosts, usernames, password, and submit urls.  It 
> DOES
> work
> on SM 2.5.1.
>
> Check your SUBMIT URL column for HTTP and HTTPS.  They will have the same
> HOST,
> USERNAME, and PASSWORD, but ARE two different entries.
>

 Minor error is above - change SM 2.5.1 to SM 2.6.1.

>>>
>>> I printed out my Links - Username - Passwords (eight pages) and SURE 
>>> ENOUGH, it
>>> shows many, many with exact duplicate entries !
>>>
>>> I suppose this is now a SM 2.6.1 "BUG" !
>>>
>>> I cannot erase just one where duplicates are shown - if I try, then both are
>>> erased.
>>>
>>> I would post the list just to show you all, but that is like posting one's 
>>> bank
>>> records.
>>>
>>> DoctorBill
>>>
>>
>> No need to - I just looked at mine with "Password Manager" and on some of the
>> domains there *ARE* duplicate entries.  Interesting.  These duplicate 
>> entries do
>> NOT show or print when using the .htm program I mentioned about.  Sorry I 
>> took
>> off on the wrong foot with the problem - I haven't used Password Manager 
>> enough
>> to look at things.
>>
> 
> W3BNR -
> 
> "These duplicate entries do NOT show or print when using the .htm program I
> mentioned about."
> 
> Oh yes they do !  My printout has many of them !
> 
> Again - is this a SM 2.6.1 "BUG" that needs attention !
> Maybe the development team need to examine this issue...
> 
> BTW - Is W3BNR a Ham Radio License Number ?
> My Dad was W9KPD back in the 40's.
> 
> DoctorBill
> 
> 

Weird - my printout from the .htm page only shows one each for those that have
both a http:// and https:// URL.  All others only show up once.  I've gone
through them - put them in an ascii editor and A-Z sorted them.

Some *DO* have the same Host/User/Password *BUT* the "Submit URL" is different.
Unfortunately Password Manager does not show the "Submit URL".  It only shows
the "Host URL" ("Website").

Those with "NULL" as a "Submit URL" appear only one time unless there is both a
http:// and https:// in the "Host URL" (Website).

Also those where the "Host URL" (Website) is the same as the "Submit URL' only
show once unless there is both http:// and https:// in the "Host URL" (Website)

Note;  "Host URL" is from the .htm page and "Website" is the term used by
Password Manager.

Yes, W3BNR is a ham call.  I've been licensed since 1955. (No fair trying to
guess how old I am).  And I've been in the data processing/computer field since
1959.

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Re: 2.6.1 stored passwords - multiple redundant repeats over and over

2012-01-03 Thread DoctorBill

W3BNR wrote:

On 1/3/2012 4:06 PM W3BNR submitted the following:

On 1/3/2012 3:53 PM DoctorBill submitted the following:

W3BNR wrote:

On 1/3/2012 1:20 PM W3BNR submitted the following:
\
  <   SNIPPED


OK - "Password Manager" does NOT show you the URL's of the Host.
I suggest you download the file at:
http://the-edmeister.com/firefox_info/articles/List_Firefox-3_Passwords.htm
and run it.  It will show "HOST", "USERNAME", "PASSWORD", and "SUBMIT URL"

Go to the URL above.  Save page as "Whatever.htm" someplace on your hard drive.
Then double click on "Whatever.htm"  Answer the question, and viola you'll have
a listing of all your Hosts, usernames, password, and submit urls.  It DOES work
on SM 2.5.1.

Check your SUBMIT URL column for HTTP and HTTPS.  They will have the same HOST,
USERNAME, and PASSWORD, but ARE two different entries.



Minor error is above - change SM 2.5.1 to SM 2.6.1.



I printed out my Links - Username - Passwords (eight pages) and SURE ENOUGH, it
shows many, many with exact duplicate entries !

I suppose this is now a SM 2.6.1 "BUG" !

I cannot erase just one where duplicates are shown - if I try, then both are
erased.

I would post the list just to show you all, but that is like posting one's bank
records.

DoctorBill



No need to - I just looked at mine with "Password Manager" and on some of the
domains there *ARE* duplicate entries.  Interesting.  These duplicate entries do
NOT show or print when using the .htm program I mentioned about.  Sorry I took
off on the wrong foot with the problem - I haven't used Password Manager enough
to look at things.



And further investigation shows an open bug on Firefox 3.6 and 3.7 for this
problem.  Bug 533065
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=533065

And for SeaMonkey 2.5 check out bug is 712106
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=712106




W#BNR - I didn't see this post before I replied to the last one

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Re: 2.6.1 stored passwords - multiple redundant repeats over and over

2012-01-03 Thread DoctorBill

W3BNR wrote:

On 1/3/2012 3:53 PM DoctorBill submitted the following:

W3BNR wrote:

On 1/3/2012 1:20 PM W3BNR submitted the following:
\
  <   SNIPPED


OK - "Password Manager" does NOT show you the URL's of the Host.
I suggest you download the file at:
http://the-edmeister.com/firefox_info/articles/List_Firefox-3_Passwords.htm
and run it.  It will show "HOST", "USERNAME", "PASSWORD", and "SUBMIT URL"

Go to the URL above.  Save page as "Whatever.htm" someplace on your hard drive.
Then double click on "Whatever.htm"  Answer the question, and viola you'll have
a listing of all your Hosts, usernames, password, and submit urls.  It DOES work
on SM 2.5.1.

Check your SUBMIT URL column for HTTP and HTTPS.  They will have the same HOST,
USERNAME, and PASSWORD, but ARE two different entries.



Minor error is above - change SM 2.5.1 to SM 2.6.1.



I printed out my Links - Username - Passwords (eight pages) and SURE ENOUGH, it
shows many, many with exact duplicate entries !

I suppose this is now a SM 2.6.1 "BUG" !

I cannot erase just one where duplicates are shown - if I try, then both are
erased.

I would post the list just to show you all, but that is like posting one's bank
records.

DoctorBill



No need to - I just looked at mine with "Password Manager" and on some of the
domains there *ARE* duplicate entries.  Interesting.  These duplicate entries do
NOT show or print when using the .htm program I mentioned about.  Sorry I took
off on the wrong foot with the problem - I haven't used Password Manager enough
to look at things.



W3BNR -

"These duplicate entries do NOT show or print when using the .htm 
program I mentioned about."


Oh yes they do !  My printout has many of them !

Again - is this a SM 2.6.1 "BUG" that needs attention !
Maybe the development team need to examine this issue...

BTW - Is W3BNR a Ham Radio License Number ?
My Dad was W9KPD back in the 40's.

DoctorBill


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Re: 2.6.1 stored passwords - multiple redundant repeats over and over

2012-01-03 Thread W3BNR
On 1/3/2012 4:06 PM W3BNR submitted the following:
> On 1/3/2012 3:53 PM DoctorBill submitted the following:
>> W3BNR wrote:
>>> On 1/3/2012 1:20 PM W3BNR submitted the following:
>>> \
>>>  <  SNIPPED

 OK - "Password Manager" does NOT show you the URL's of the Host.
 I suggest you download the file at:
 http://the-edmeister.com/firefox_info/articles/List_Firefox-3_Passwords.htm
 and run it.  It will show "HOST", "USERNAME", "PASSWORD", and "SUBMIT URL"

 Go to the URL above.  Save page as "Whatever.htm" someplace on your hard 
 drive.
 Then double click on "Whatever.htm"  Answer the question, and viola you'll 
 have
 a listing of all your Hosts, usernames, password, and submit urls.  It 
 DOES work
 on SM 2.5.1.

 Check your SUBMIT URL column for HTTP and HTTPS.  They will have the same 
 HOST,
 USERNAME, and PASSWORD, but ARE two different entries.

>>>
>>> Minor error is above - change SM 2.5.1 to SM 2.6.1.
>>>
>>
>> I printed out my Links - Username - Passwords (eight pages) and SURE ENOUGH, 
>> it
>> shows many, many with exact duplicate entries !
>>
>> I suppose this is now a SM 2.6.1 "BUG" !
>>
>> I cannot erase just one where duplicates are shown - if I try, then both are
>> erased.
>>
>> I would post the list just to show you all, but that is like posting one's 
>> bank
>> records.
>>
>> DoctorBill
>>
> 
> No need to - I just looked at mine with "Password Manager" and on some of the
> domains there *ARE* duplicate entries.  Interesting.  These duplicate entries 
> do
> NOT show or print when using the .htm program I mentioned about.  Sorry I took
> off on the wrong foot with the problem - I haven't used Password Manager 
> enough
> to look at things.
> 

And further investigation shows an open bug on Firefox 3.6 and 3.7 for this
problem.  Bug 533065
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=533065

And for SeaMonkey 2.5 check out bug is 712106
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=712106


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Re: 2.6.1 stored passwords - multiple redundant repeats over and over

2012-01-03 Thread W3BNR
On 1/3/2012 3:53 PM DoctorBill submitted the following:
> W3BNR wrote:
>> On 1/3/2012 1:20 PM W3BNR submitted the following:
>> \
>>  <  SNIPPED
>>>
>>> OK - "Password Manager" does NOT show you the URL's of the Host.
>>> I suggest you download the file at:
>>> http://the-edmeister.com/firefox_info/articles/List_Firefox-3_Passwords.htm
>>> and run it.  It will show "HOST", "USERNAME", "PASSWORD", and "SUBMIT URL"
>>>
>>> Go to the URL above.  Save page as "Whatever.htm" someplace on your hard 
>>> drive.
>>> Then double click on "Whatever.htm"  Answer the question, and viola you'll 
>>> have
>>> a listing of all your Hosts, usernames, password, and submit urls.  It DOES 
>>> work
>>> on SM 2.5.1.
>>>
>>> Check your SUBMIT URL column for HTTP and HTTPS.  They will have the same 
>>> HOST,
>>> USERNAME, and PASSWORD, but ARE two different entries.
>>>
>>
>> Minor error is above - change SM 2.5.1 to SM 2.6.1.
>>
> 
> I printed out my Links - Username - Passwords (eight pages) and SURE ENOUGH, 
> it
> shows many, many with exact duplicate entries !
> 
> I suppose this is now a SM 2.6.1 "BUG" !
> 
> I cannot erase just one where duplicates are shown - if I try, then both are
> erased.
> 
> I would post the list just to show you all, but that is like posting one's 
> bank
> records.
> 
> DoctorBill
> 

No need to - I just looked at mine with "Password Manager" and on some of the
domains there *ARE* duplicate entries.  Interesting.  These duplicate entries do
NOT show or print when using the .htm program I mentioned about.  Sorry I took
off on the wrong foot with the problem - I haven't used Password Manager enough
to look at things.

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Re: 2.6.1 stored passwords - multiple redundant repeats over and over

2012-01-03 Thread DoctorBill

W3BNR wrote:

On 1/3/2012 1:20 PM W3BNR submitted the following:
\
 <  SNIPPED


OK - "Password Manager" does NOT show you the URL's of the Host.
I suggest you download the file at:
http://the-edmeister.com/firefox_info/articles/List_Firefox-3_Passwords.htm
and run it.  It will show "HOST", "USERNAME", "PASSWORD", and "SUBMIT URL"

Go to the URL above.  Save page as "Whatever.htm" someplace on your hard drive.
Then double click on "Whatever.htm"  Answer the question, and viola you'll have
a listing of all your Hosts, usernames, password, and submit urls.  It DOES work
on SM 2.5.1.

Check your SUBMIT URL column for HTTP and HTTPS.  They will have the same HOST,
USERNAME, and PASSWORD, but ARE two different entries.



Minor error is above - change SM 2.5.1 to SM 2.6.1.



I printed out my Links - Username - Passwords (eight pages) and SURE 
ENOUGH, it shows many, many with exact duplicate entries !


I suppose this is now a SM 2.6.1 "BUG" !

I cannot erase just one where duplicates are shown - if I try, then both 
are erased.


I would post the list just to show you all, but that is like posting 
one's bank records.


DoctorBill

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Re: 2.6.1 stored passwords - multiple redundant repeats over and over

2012-01-03 Thread DoctorBill

W3BNR wrote:

On 1/3/2012 1:20 PM W3BNR submitted the following:
\
 <  SNIPPED


OK - "Password Manager" does NOT show you the URL's of the Host.
I suggest you download the file at:
http://the-edmeister.com/firefox_info/articles/List_Firefox-3_Passwords.htm
and run it.  It will show "HOST", "USERNAME", "PASSWORD", and "SUBMIT URL"

Go to the URL above.  Save page as "Whatever.htm" someplace on your hard drive.
Then double click on "Whatever.htm"  Answer the question, and viola you'll have
a listing of all your Hosts, usernames, password, and submit urls.  It DOES work
on SM 2.5.1.

Check your SUBMIT URL column for HTTP and HTTPS.  They will have the same HOST,
USERNAME, and PASSWORD, but ARE two different entries.



Minor error is above - change SM 2.5.1 to SM 2.6.1.



OMG !  So nice to have !

If I was of that bent, I would kiss you for that link and printout !

May the bird of happiness drop thank you's on your head !

Wondrous !

DoctorBill

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Re: 2.6.1 stored passwords - multiple redundant repeats over and over

2012-01-03 Thread DoctorBill

W3BNR wrote:

On 1/3/2012 12:36 PM DoctorBill submitted the following:

W3BNR wrote:

On 1/2/2012 10:43 PM DoctorBill submitted the following:

DoctorBill wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:

Cute title - I just wanted to show the redundancy described below.

I just updated to SeaMonkey 2.6.1 from SeaMonkey 1.1.

My stored passwords that came over from SM 1.1 are there but now require
me to click on the Username before one comes up to choose.

When I click on Username", many have multiples of the same Username !

I went to stored passwords, and one I went to often before now has SIX
listings of the very same username and password for exactly the same
link.

Was this a bug? Did I do something wrong ? Why would it store repeats of
the very same thing.

Should I delete all but one of them ?

I don't want to delete anything until I hear from the Expurts

DoctorBill



Oh how cute !
There are two of everything or more.
Once you get down to two of them, if you highlight one and press delete,
both of them are erased

Wonderful.

DoctorBill



 From the numerous responses, I would suppose:

1. No one has had this problem before me.

2. No one knows what is going on.

3. No one G.A.S.

I guess it is #3.

DoctorBill



I was in the process of copying (by hand typing) all my passwords over to a list
on WORD...when XP Security 2012 hit my system.

OMG - don't let that thing get you !  Long story - hideous !
Still have to run a procedure on bleepingcomputer.com to totally clean it out.
http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/virus-removal/remove-xp-internet-security-2012

Anyway - I am going to get all my passwords (can't get them printed out of SM
1.1 - at least I don't know how) and then erase the 2.6.1 passwords files and
start all over anew with all of the sites.

That should stop this two of everything stuff I get now.
I have to click on the username box to get anything to show then I get two of
the same thing shown.

Is this normal for 2.6.1 or am I doing the right thing ?

I don't want to reload 2.1 and inport and then import to 2.6.1...LORD !

DoctorBill



Bill, back in 2010 I noticed that I had what I thought were duplicated entries
of host/user/passwords in my system.  But, upon closer inspection the submit
URL's were different.  Look to see if one is http:// and the so called duplicate
is https://




Nope - they are absolutely identical !
Nope - they are absolutely identical !

For instance, I order cigars from
http://www.coronacigar.com
and there are two identical lines in the "Password Manager" list with
identical usernames and passwords.

DoctorBill
DoctorBill
(lol)



OK - "Password Manager" does NOT show you the URL's of the Host.
I suggest you download the file at:
http://the-edmeister.com/firefox_info/articles/List_Firefox-3_Passwords.htm
and run it.  It will show "HOST", "USERNAME", "PASSWORD", and "SUBMIT URL"

Go to the URL above.  Save page as "Whatever.htm" someplace on your hard drive.
Then double click on "Whatever.htm"  Answer the question, and viola you'll have
a listing of all your Hosts, usernames, password, and submit urls.  It DOES work
on SM 2.5.1.

Check your SUBMIT URL column for HTTP and HTTPS.  They will have the same HOST,
USERNAME, and PASSWORD, but ARE two different entries.



I beg to differ with you !

TOOLS | Password Manager | Manage Stored Passwords | Show Passwords 
(lower right button) | YES


I would post a 'screensave' on an image hosting site to show you, but 
then I would be giving away my usernames and passwords !


I am using 2.6.1 - and I am not insane.   Not yet, anyway

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Re: 2.6.1 stored passwords - multiple redundant repeats over and over

2012-01-03 Thread W3BNR
On 1/3/2012 1:20 PM W3BNR submitted the following:
\
< SNIPPED
> 
> OK - "Password Manager" does NOT show you the URL's of the Host.
> I suggest you download the file at:
> http://the-edmeister.com/firefox_info/articles/List_Firefox-3_Passwords.htm
> and run it.  It will show "HOST", "USERNAME", "PASSWORD", and "SUBMIT URL"
> 
> Go to the URL above.  Save page as "Whatever.htm" someplace on your hard 
> drive.
> Then double click on "Whatever.htm"  Answer the question, and viola you'll 
> have
> a listing of all your Hosts, usernames, password, and submit urls.  It DOES 
> work
> on SM 2.5.1.
> 
> Check your SUBMIT URL column for HTTP and HTTPS.  They will have the same 
> HOST,
> USERNAME, and PASSWORD, but ARE two different entries.
> 

Minor error is above - change SM 2.5.1 to SM 2.6.1.

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Re: 2.6.1 stored passwords - multiple redundant repeats over and over

2012-01-03 Thread W3BNR
On 1/3/2012 12:36 PM DoctorBill submitted the following:
> W3BNR wrote:
>> On 1/2/2012 10:43 PM DoctorBill submitted the following:
>>> DoctorBill wrote:
 DoctorBill wrote:
> DoctorBill wrote:
>> Cute title - I just wanted to show the redundancy described below.
>>
>> I just updated to SeaMonkey 2.6.1 from SeaMonkey 1.1.
>>
>> My stored passwords that came over from SM 1.1 are there but now require
>> me to click on the Username before one comes up to choose.
>>
>> When I click on Username", many have multiples of the same Username !
>>
>> I went to stored passwords, and one I went to often before now has SIX
>> listings of the very same username and password for exactly the same
>> link.
>>
>> Was this a bug? Did I do something wrong ? Why would it store repeats of
>> the very same thing.
>>
>> Should I delete all but one of them ?
>>
>> I don't want to delete anything until I hear from the Expurts
>>
>> DoctorBill
>>
>
> Oh how cute !
> There are two of everything or more.
> Once you get down to two of them, if you highlight one and press delete,
> both of them are erased
>
> Wonderful.
>
> DoctorBill
>

From the numerous responses, I would suppose:

 1. No one has had this problem before me.

 2. No one knows what is going on.

 3. No one G.A.S.

 I guess it is #3.

 DoctorBill

>>>
>>> I was in the process of copying (by hand typing) all my passwords over to a 
>>> list
>>> on WORD...when XP Security 2012 hit my system.
>>>
>>> OMG - don't let that thing get you !  Long story - hideous !
>>> Still have to run a procedure on bleepingcomputer.com to totally clean it 
>>> out.
>>> http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/virus-removal/remove-xp-internet-security-2012
>>>
>>> Anyway - I am going to get all my passwords (can't get them printed out of 
>>> SM
>>> 1.1 - at least I don't know how) and then erase the 2.6.1 passwords files 
>>> and
>>> start all over anew with all of the sites.
>>>
>>> That should stop this two of everything stuff I get now.
>>> I have to click on the username box to get anything to show then I get two 
>>> of
>>> the same thing shown.
>>>
>>> Is this normal for 2.6.1 or am I doing the right thing ?
>>>
>>> I don't want to reload 2.1 and inport and then import to 2.6.1...LORD !
>>>
>>> DoctorBill
>>>
>>
>> Bill, back in 2010 I noticed that I had what I thought were duplicated 
>> entries
>> of host/user/passwords in my system.  But, upon closer inspection the submit
>> URL's were different.  Look to see if one is http:// and the so called 
>> duplicate
>> is https://
>>
>>
> 
> Nope - they are absolutely identical !
> Nope - they are absolutely identical !
> 
> For instance, I order cigars from
> http://www.coronacigar.com
> and there are two identical lines in the "Password Manager" list with
> identical usernames and passwords.
> 
> DoctorBill
> DoctorBill
> (lol)
> 

OK - "Password Manager" does NOT show you the URL's of the Host.
I suggest you download the file at:
http://the-edmeister.com/firefox_info/articles/List_Firefox-3_Passwords.htm
and run it.  It will show "HOST", "USERNAME", "PASSWORD", and "SUBMIT URL"

Go to the URL above.  Save page as "Whatever.htm" someplace on your hard drive.
Then double click on "Whatever.htm"  Answer the question, and viola you'll have
a listing of all your Hosts, usernames, password, and submit urls.  It DOES work
on SM 2.5.1.

Check your SUBMIT URL column for HTTP and HTTPS.  They will have the same HOST,
USERNAME, and PASSWORD, but ARE two different entries.

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Re: 2.6.1 stored passwords - multiple redundant repeats over and over

2012-01-03 Thread DoctorBill

W3BNR wrote:

On 1/2/2012 10:43 PM DoctorBill submitted the following:

DoctorBill wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:

Cute title - I just wanted to show the redundancy described below.

I just updated to SeaMonkey 2.6.1 from SeaMonkey 1.1.

My stored passwords that came over from SM 1.1 are there but now require
me to click on the Username before one comes up to choose.

When I click on Username", many have multiples of the same Username !

I went to stored passwords, and one I went to often before now has SIX
listings of the very same username and password for exactly the same
link.

Was this a bug? Did I do something wrong ? Why would it store repeats of
the very same thing.

Should I delete all but one of them ?

I don't want to delete anything until I hear from the Expurts

DoctorBill



Oh how cute !
There are two of everything or more.
Once you get down to two of them, if you highlight one and press delete,
both of them are erased

Wonderful.

DoctorBill



   From the numerous responses, I would suppose:

1. No one has had this problem before me.

2. No one knows what is going on.

3. No one G.A.S.

I guess it is #3.

DoctorBill



I was in the process of copying (by hand typing) all my passwords over to a list
on WORD...when XP Security 2012 hit my system.

OMG - don't let that thing get you !  Long story - hideous !
Still have to run a procedure on bleepingcomputer.com to totally clean it out.
http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/virus-removal/remove-xp-internet-security-2012

Anyway - I am going to get all my passwords (can't get them printed out of SM
1.1 - at least I don't know how) and then erase the 2.6.1 passwords files and
start all over anew with all of the sites.

That should stop this two of everything stuff I get now.
I have to click on the username box to get anything to show then I get two of
the same thing shown.

Is this normal for 2.6.1 or am I doing the right thing ?

I don't want to reload 2.1 and inport and then import to 2.6.1...LORD !

DoctorBill



Bill, back in 2010 I noticed that I had what I thought were duplicated entries
of host/user/passwords in my system.  But, upon closer inspection the submit
URL's were different.  Look to see if one is http:// and the so called duplicate
is https://




Nope - they are absolutely identical !
Nope - they are absolutely identical !

For instance, I order cigars from
http://www.coronacigar.com
and there are two identical lines in the "Password Manager" list with
identical usernames and passwords.

DoctorBill
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(lol)

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Re: 2.6.1 stored passwords - multiple redundant repeats over and over

2012-01-03 Thread W3BNR
On 1/2/2012 10:43 PM DoctorBill submitted the following:
> DoctorBill wrote:
>> DoctorBill wrote:
>>> DoctorBill wrote:
 Cute title - I just wanted to show the redundancy described below.

 I just updated to SeaMonkey 2.6.1 from SeaMonkey 1.1.

 My stored passwords that came over from SM 1.1 are there but now require
 me to click on the Username before one comes up to choose.

 When I click on Username", many have multiples of the same Username !

 I went to stored passwords, and one I went to often before now has SIX
 listings of the very same username and password for exactly the same
 link.

 Was this a bug? Did I do something wrong ? Why would it store repeats of
 the very same thing.

 Should I delete all but one of them ?

 I don't want to delete anything until I hear from the Expurts

 DoctorBill

>>>
>>> Oh how cute !
>>> There are two of everything or more.
>>> Once you get down to two of them, if you highlight one and press delete,
>>> both of them are erased
>>>
>>> Wonderful.
>>>
>>> DoctorBill
>>>
>>
>>  From the numerous responses, I would suppose:
>>
>> 1. No one has had this problem before me.
>>
>> 2. No one knows what is going on.
>>
>> 3. No one G.A.S.
>>
>> I guess it is #3.
>>
>> DoctorBill
>>
> 
> I was in the process of copying (by hand typing) all my passwords over to a 
> list
> on WORD...when XP Security 2012 hit my system.
> 
> OMG - don't let that thing get you !  Long story - hideous !
> Still have to run a procedure on bleepingcomputer.com to totally clean it out.
> http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/virus-removal/remove-xp-internet-security-2012
> 
> Anyway - I am going to get all my passwords (can't get them printed out of SM
> 1.1 - at least I don't know how) and then erase the 2.6.1 passwords files and
> start all over anew with all of the sites.
> 
> That should stop this two of everything stuff I get now.
> I have to click on the username box to get anything to show then I get two of
> the same thing shown.
> 
> Is this normal for 2.6.1 or am I doing the right thing ?
> 
> I don't want to reload 2.1 and inport and then import to 2.6.1...LORD !
> 
> DoctorBill
> 

Bill, back in 2010 I noticed that I had what I thought were duplicated entries
of host/user/passwords in my system.  But, upon closer inspection the submit
URL's were different.  Look to see if one is http:// and the so called duplicate
is https://


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Re: 2.6.1 stored passwords - multiple redundant repeats over and over

2012-01-02 Thread DoctorBill

DoctorBill wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:

Cute title - I just wanted to show the redundancy described below.

I just updated to SeaMonkey 2.6.1 from SeaMonkey 1.1.

My stored passwords that came over from SM 1.1 are there but now require
me to click on the Username before one comes up to choose.

When I click on Username", many have multiples of the same Username !

I went to stored passwords, and one I went to often before now has SIX
listings of the very same username and password for exactly the same
link.

Was this a bug? Did I do something wrong ? Why would it store repeats of
the very same thing.

Should I delete all but one of them ?

I don't want to delete anything until I hear from the Expurts

DoctorBill



Oh how cute !
There are two of everything or more.
Once you get down to two of them, if you highlight one and press delete,
both of them are erased

Wonderful.

DoctorBill



 From the numerous responses, I would suppose:

1. No one has had this problem before me.

2. No one knows what is going on.

3. No one G.A.S.

I guess it is #3.

DoctorBill



I was in the process of copying (by hand typing) all my passwords over 
to a list on WORD...when XP Security 2012 hit my system.


OMG - don't let that thing get you !  Long story - hideous !
Still have to run a procedure on bleepingcomputer.com to totally clean 
it out.

http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/virus-removal/remove-xp-internet-security-2012

Anyway - I am going to get all my passwords (can't get them printed out 
of SM 1.1 - at least I don't know how) and then erase the 2.6.1 
passwords files and start all over anew with all of the sites.


That should stop this two of everything stuff I get now.
I have to click on the username box to get anything to show then I get 
two of the same thing shown.


Is this normal for 2.6.1 or am I doing the right thing ?

I don't want to reload 2.1 and inport and then import to 2.6.1...LORD !

DoctorBill

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Re: 2.6.1 stored passwords - multiple redundant repeats over and over

2011-12-31 Thread Rob Lindauer

DoctorBill wrote:



 From the numerous responses, I would suppose:

1. No one has had this problem before me.

2. No one knows what is going on.

3. No one G.A.S.

I guess it is #3.

DoctorBill



One problem hanging on to the bitter end with a very old release is that 
the institutional memory on issues / resolutions with the old release 
evaporates.  It may be that all you can do is examine the 
contemporaneous postings.


Asserting 3 tends to become a self-fulfulling prophecy.



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Re: 2.6.1 stored passwords - multiple redundant repeats over and over

2011-12-31 Thread Hartmut Figge
DoctorBill:

the numerous responses,

*g*

> I would suppose:
>
>1. No one has had this problem before me.

Not exactly.

>2. No one knows what is going on.

I can guess. AFAIR you have recently migrated from a very old SM to a
current one.

>3. No one G.A.S.

That one i don't understand. Never mind.

My time of the migration was long ago and i have forgotten most of it by
now. I remember filing a bug about the migration of the passwords and
that this bug was fixed.

Formerly passwords and usernames were stored in a file named .s
and later in a file named signons3.txt. There may have been interim stages.

Now the access dates are contained in the signons.sqlite which was
created by the migration from one of these old files. If there was a
signons3.txt this one was taken to create the signons.sqlite.

Now, all the old files are pure text files which can easily be read and
edited. Just that had i done before filing my bug and i had gathered
enough information from that to show where the migration failed.

You should have at least one of the old files in your profile. Now,
before going further, make a backup of them and your new signons.sqlite!
I am doing this by custom by appending a -s to the original name.

It seems that there are some strange entries in your old text file. Look
into it after closing your SM, try to understand what is in it, modify
it, delete your signons.sqlite and then start your SM. A new
signons.sqlite will be created automatically from your modified file.

Here is an example from my own signons3.txt:

---
.
http://bugs.gentoo.org
Bugzilla_login
secret
*Bugzilla_password
secret

---
.
http://bugs.winehq.org
Bugzilla_login
secret
*Bugzilla_password
secret

---

You can see that the entries are separated by three dashes. As for the
secrets, they are obscured by using Base64. It wasn't that difficult for
me to find out what to try to change.

And, you can repeat trying as long as you wish because you have backups.
Good Luck. :)

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Re: 2.6.1 stored passwords - multiple redundant repeats over and over

2011-12-31 Thread WLS
On 12/31/2011 10:28 PM, DoctorBill aliandika:
> DoctorBill wrote:
>> DoctorBill wrote:
>>> Cute title - I just wanted to show the redundancy described below.
>>>
>>> I just updated to SeaMonkey 2.6.1 from SeaMonkey 1.1.
>>>
>>> My stored passwords that came over from SM 1.1 are there but now require
>>> me to click on the Username before one comes up to choose.
>>>
>>> When I click on Username", many have multiples of the same Username !
>>>
>>> I went to stored passwords, and one I went to often before now has SIX
>>> listings of the very same username and password for exactly the same
>>> link.
>>>
>>> Was this a bug? Did I do something wrong ? Why would it store repeats of
>>> the very same thing.
>>>
>>> Should I delete all but one of them ?
>>>
>>> I don't want to delete anything until I hear from the Expurts
>>>
>>> DoctorBill
>>>
>>
>> Oh how cute !
>> There are two of everything or more.
>> Once you get down to two of them, if you highlight one and press delete,
>> both of them are erased
>>
>> Wonderful.
>>
>> DoctorBill
>>
> 
> From the numerous responses, I would suppose:
> 
> 1. No one has had this problem before me.
> 
> 2. No one knows what is going on.
> 
> 3. No one G.A.S.
> 
> I guess it is #3.
> 
> DoctorBill
> 

Sorry, but not too many were still using SeaMonkey 1.1.

I believe it is 1 and 2.

However a Google search for Upgrading SeaMonkey 1.1 delivers these results.

http://tinyurl.com/829hd9u

http://tinyurl.com/77uj3g6

You probably should have updated to SeaMonkey 2.0.14 first.

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Re: 2.6.1 stored passwords - multiple redundant repeats over and over

2011-12-31 Thread DoctorBill

DoctorBill wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:

Cute title - I just wanted to show the redundancy described below.

I just updated to SeaMonkey 2.6.1 from SeaMonkey 1.1.

My stored passwords that came over from SM 1.1 are there but now require
me to click on the Username before one comes up to choose.

When I click on Username", many have multiples of the same Username !

I went to stored passwords, and one I went to often before now has SIX
listings of the very same username and password for exactly the same
link.

Was this a bug? Did I do something wrong ? Why would it store repeats of
the very same thing.

Should I delete all but one of them ?

I don't want to delete anything until I hear from the Expurts

DoctorBill



Oh how cute !
There are two of everything or more.
Once you get down to two of them, if you highlight one and press delete,
both of them are erased

Wonderful.

DoctorBill



From the numerous responses, I would suppose:

1. No one has had this problem before me.

2. No one knows what is going on.

3. No one G.A.S.

I guess it is #3.

DoctorBill

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Re: 2.6.1 stored passwords - multiple redundant repeats over and over

2011-12-29 Thread DoctorBill

DoctorBill wrote:

Cute title - I just wanted to show the redundancy described below.

I just updated to SeaMonkey 2.6.1 from SeaMonkey 1.1.

My stored passwords that came over from SM 1.1 are there but now require
me to click on the Username before one comes up to choose.

When I click on Username", many have multiples of the same Username !

I went to stored passwords, and one I went to often before now has SIX
listings of the very same username and password for exactly the same link.

Was this a bug? Did I do something wrong ? Why would it store repeats of
the very same thing.

Should I delete all but one of them ?

I don't want to delete anything until I hear from the Expurts

DoctorBill



Oh how cute !
There are two of everything or more.
Once you get down to two of them, if you highlight one and press delete, 
both of them are erased


Wonderful.

DoctorBill

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