Re: Defragmentation
Bill Davidsen wrote: Ant wrote: On 11/25/2009 12:27 PM PT, Graham typed: Should close everything. I wonder if there are any good offline defrag that doesn't require user to run Windows. There is, it's called Linux. ;-) Doesn't require defrag, as is true with OS/X as well. Doesn't that depend on the file system used? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Defragmentation
On Fri, 27 Nov 2009 16:56:57 +0100, Benoit Renard wrote: Bill Davidsen wrote: Ant wrote: On 11/25/2009 12:27 PM PT, Graham typed: Should close everything. I wonder if there are any good offline defrag that doesn't require user to run Windows. There is, it's called Linux. ;-) Doesn't require defrag, as is true with OS/X as well. Doesn't that depend on the file system used? The Netware file system actually gets slower if you defrag it. It's apparently designed to work better when the files are fragmented. Phil -- Philip Chee phi...@aleytys.pc.my, philip.c...@gmail.com http://flashblock.mozdev.org/ http://xsidebar.mozdev.org Guard us from the she-wolf and the wolf, and guard us from the thief, oh Night, and so be good for us to pass. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Defragmentation
On 11/25/2009 12:27 PM PT, Graham typed: My XP home edition leaves LARGE chunks of fragmented files behind called Files that cannot be defragmented,when finished with a defrag. These files are all Mozilla, range from 565 to 4,367 fragments each. Files such as: \Documents and Settings\Popper\Application Data\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\h9g1epll.default\Mail\pop.gmail.com\Sent and \Documents and Settings\Popper\Application Data\Mozilla\Profiles\default\jcznygmx.slt\Mail\pop.gmail-1.com\Inbox and \Documents and Settings\Popper\Application Data\Mozilla\Profiles\default\jcznygmx.slt\Mail\pop.gmail-1.com\Sent What can I do to render these files fragmentable? Close Seamonkey before you run defrag. Should close everything. I wonder if there are any good offline defrag that doesn't require user to run Windows. -- All the best work is done the way that ants do things -- by tiny but untiring and regular additions. --Lafcadio Hearn /\___/\ / /\ /\ \ Phil/Ant @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) | |o o| |Ant's Quality Foraged Links (AQFL): http://aqfl.net \ _ / Nuke ANT from e-mail address: phi...@earthlink.netant ( ) or ant...@zimage.com Ant is currently not listening to any songs on his home computer. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Defragmentation
Gerald Ross wrote: Ant wrote: On 11/25/2009 12:27 PM PT, Graham typed: My XP home edition leaves LARGE chunks of fragmented files behind called Files that cannot be defragmented,when finished with a defrag. These files are all Mozilla, range from 565 to 4,367 fragments each. Files such as: \Documents and Settings\Popper\Application Data\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\h9g1epll.default\Mail\pop.gmail.com\Sent and \Documents and Settings\Popper\Application Data\Mozilla\Profiles\default\jcznygmx.slt\Mail\pop.gmail-1.com\Inbox and \Documents and Settings\Popper\Application Data\Mozilla\Profiles\default\jcznygmx.slt\Mail\pop.gmail-1.com\Sent What can I do to render these files fragmentable? Close Seamonkey before you run defrag. Should close everything. I wonder if there are any good offline defrag that doesn't require user to run Windows. PerfectDisc will do that. If, after you do a regular defrag with it, there are many system and meta files fragmented, it will suggest doing a bootup defrag. If you click to do this, the next time you start the computer it will load perfectdisc and do a defrag before windows starts up. Will that bootupdefrag also defrag the open slots? That would be great! I would advise the OP to purge all caches (SM, IE, and iopconfig/flushdns) and delete *.tmp /s and do a disk cleanup (right mouse on C drive, properties, tools, and the button for disk cleanup, advanced, and remove all old system-restores but the last one. This can save several GB of space and perhaps leave enough room to defrag more files. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Defragmentation
On 11/26/2009 4:39 AM PT, Gerald Ross typed: Should close everything. I wonder if there are any good offline defrag that doesn't require user to run Windows. PerfectDisc will do that. If, after you do a regular defrag with it, there are many system and meta files fragmented, it will suggest doing a bootup defrag. If you click to do this, the next time you start the computer it will load perfectdisc and do a defrag before windows starts up. Is there a freeware that can do that? -- o/~ All the little ants are marching, red and black antennae waving... they all do it the same... they all do it the same... way... o/~ --Ants Marching song by Dave Matthews Band /\___/\ / /\ /\ \ Phil/Ant @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) | |o o| |Ant's Quality Foraged Links (AQFL): http://aqfl.net \ _ / Nuke ANT from e-mail address: phi...@earthlink.netant ( ) or ant...@zimage.com Ant is currently not listening to any songs on his home computer. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Defragmentation
Ant wrote: On 11/25/2009 12:27 PM PT, Graham typed: Close Seamonkey before you run defrag. Should close everything. I wonder if there are any good offline defrag that doesn't require user to run Windows. There is, it's called Linux. ;-) Doesn't require defrag, as is true with OS/X as well. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Defragmentation
Serge Popper wrote: MCBastos wrote: Interviewed by CNN on 25/11/2009 21:28, Serge Popper told the world: Did you compact the mailboxes first? That may shrink them enough to make defragmentation more possible. No, I didn't. I'll try that. Thanks. Another thing: Don't forget to *close* *all* the Seamonkey windows (not only the mail windows, but also the browser, composer etc.) before running the defragger. If Seamonkey is opened, it's likely that the files will be tagged as in use and left alone. You might try a more powerful defragger too -- the one that comes with Windows is pretty wimpy. My favourite is Raxco PerfectDisk, but that costs money. Some well-regarded free ones: - Defraggler: http://www.piriform.com/defraggler - MyDefrag (formerly known as JKDefrag): http://www.mydefrag.com/ - UltraDefrag: http://ultradefrag.sourceforge.net/ - Power Defragmenter: a GUI for the Contig utility which was mentioned in a previous message. http://cid-94a12102e5094675.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/eXcessive%20Software/PowerDefragmenter.zip Note that PowerDefragmenter is hosted in a Windows Live Skydrive page -- which doesn't load on SeaMonkey due to being served as XML despite not passing well-formedness. You will have to use a non-Gecko browser, such as Internet Explorer, Opera, Safari or Chrome, to see the page and download the file. I'm downloading Raxo as I type. Will try it and let you know. Thanks for the help. Serge Defraged with Raxco and a start-up with it. Seems to have solved the problem. Thanks. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Defragmentation
Wed, 25 Nov 2009 14:45:45 -0500, /Serge Popper/: My XP home edition leaves LARGE chunks of fragmented files behind called Files that cannot be defragmented,when finished with a defrag. These files are all Mozilla, range from 565 to 4,367 fragments each. Files such as: \Documents and Settings\Popper\Application Data\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\h9g1epll.default\Mail\pop.gmail.com\Sent and \Documents and Settings\Popper\Application Data\Mozilla\Profiles\default\jcznygmx.slt\Mail\pop.gmail-1.com\Inbox and \Documents and Settings\Popper\Application Data\Mozilla\Profiles\default\jcznygmx.slt\Mail\pop.gmail-1.com\Sent What can I do to render these files fragmentable? You could try defragmenting each of these one at a time using the Contig [1] utility from the Sysinternals package: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/ After that you may try running defrag on the whole volume again. [1] http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb897428.aspx -- Stanimir ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Defragmentation
On 11/25/2009 11:45 AM, Serge Popper wrote: My XP home edition leaves LARGE chunks of fragmented files behind called Files that cannot be defragmented,when finished with a defrag. These files are all Mozilla, range from 565 to 4,367 fragments each. Files such as: \Documents and Settings\Popper\Application Data\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\h9g1epll.default\Mail\pop.gmail.com\Sent and \Documents and Settings\Popper\Application Data\Mozilla\Profiles\default\jcznygmx.slt\Mail\pop.gmail-1.com\Inbox and \Documents and Settings\Popper\Application Data\Mozilla\Profiles\default\jcznygmx.slt\Mail\pop.gmail-1.com\Sent What can I do to render these files fragmentable? Thanks, Serge Did you compact the mailboxes first? That may shrink them enough to make defragmentation more possible. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Defragmentation
Mark Hansen wrote: On 11/25/2009 11:45 AM, Serge Popper wrote: My XP home edition leaves LARGE chunks of fragmented files behind called Files that cannot be defragmented,when finished with a defrag. These files are all Mozilla, range from 565 to 4,367 fragments each. Files such as: \Documents and Settings\Popper\Application Data\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\h9g1epll.default\Mail\pop.gmail.com\Sent and \Documents and Settings\Popper\Application Data\Mozilla\Profiles\default\jcznygmx.slt\Mail\pop.gmail-1.com\Inbox and \Documents and Settings\Popper\Application Data\Mozilla\Profiles\default\jcznygmx.slt\Mail\pop.gmail-1.com\Sent What can I do to render these files fragmentable? Thanks, Serge Did you compact the mailboxes first? That may shrink them enough to make defragmentation more possible. No, I didn't. I'll try that. Thanks. Serge ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Defragmentation
Stanimir Stamenkov wrote: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 14:45:45 -0500, /Serge Popper/: My XP home edition leaves LARGE chunks of fragmented files behind called Files that cannot be defragmented,when finished with a defrag. These files are all Mozilla, range from 565 to 4,367 fragments each. Files such as: \Documents and Settings\Popper\Application Data\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\h9g1epll.default\Mail\pop.gmail.com\Sent and \Documents and Settings\Popper\Application Data\Mozilla\Profiles\default\jcznygmx.slt\Mail\pop.gmail-1.com\Inbox and \Documents and Settings\Popper\Application Data\Mozilla\Profiles\default\jcznygmx.slt\Mail\pop.gmail-1.com\Sent What can I do to render these files fragmentable? You could try defragmenting each of these one at a time using the Contig [1] utility from the Sysinternals package: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/ After that you may try running defrag on the whole volume again. [1] http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb897428.aspx Unfortunately, Stanmir, your suggestion is way over my head. I went to the sysinternals site and was totally lost. Thanks anyway, Serge ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Defragmentation
Serge Popper wrote: My XP home edition leaves LARGE chunks of fragmented files behind called Files that cannot be defragmented,when finished with a defrag. These files are all Mozilla, range from 565 to 4,367 fragments each. Files such as: \Documents and Settings\Popper\Application Data\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\h9g1epll.default\Mail\pop.gmail.com\Sent and \Documents and Settings\Popper\Application Data\Mozilla\Profiles\default\jcznygmx.slt\Mail\pop.gmail-1.com\Inbox and \Documents and Settings\Popper\Application Data\Mozilla\Profiles\default\jcznygmx.slt\Mail\pop.gmail-1.com\Sent What can I do to render these files fragmentable? Thanks, Serge Make sure you don't have quick launch enabled. Files that are in use can not be defragmented. This may not be the problem, but the first thought I had. -- Gerald Ross Cochran, GA He ended the job as he began it; fired with enthusiasm. --Don O'Shaughnessy ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Defragmentation
Interviewed by CNN on 25/11/2009 21:28, Serge Popper told the world: Did you compact the mailboxes first? That may shrink them enough to make defragmentation more possible. No, I didn't. I'll try that. Thanks. Another thing: Don't forget to *close* *all* the Seamonkey windows (not only the mail windows, but also the browser, composer etc.) before running the defragger. If Seamonkey is opened, it's likely that the files will be tagged as in use and left alone. You might try a more powerful defragger too -- the one that comes with Windows is pretty wimpy. My favourite is Raxco PerfectDisk, but that costs money. Some well-regarded free ones: - Defraggler: http://www.piriform.com/defraggler - MyDefrag (formerly known as JKDefrag): http://www.mydefrag.com/ - UltraDefrag: http://ultradefrag.sourceforge.net/ - Power Defragmenter: a GUI for the Contig utility which was mentioned in a previous message. http://cid-94a12102e5094675.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/eXcessive%20Software/PowerDefragmenter.zip Note that PowerDefragmenter is hosted in a Windows Live Skydrive page -- which doesn't load on SeaMonkey due to being served as XML despite not passing well-formedness. You will have to use a non-Gecko browser, such as Internet Explorer, Opera, Safari or Chrome, to see the page and download the file. -- MCBastos This message has been protected with the 2ROT13 algorithm. Unauthorized use will be prosecuted under the DMCA. -=-=- ... Tried to play my shoehorn... all I got was footnotes! * TagZilla 0.0661 * http://tagzilla.mozdev.org on Seamonkey 2.0 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Defragmentation
Gerald Ross wrote: Serge Popper wrote: My XP home edition leaves LARGE chunks of fragmented files behind called Files that cannot be defragmented,when finished with a defrag. These files are all Mozilla, range from 565 to 4,367 fragments each. Files such as: \Documents and Settings\Popper\Application Data\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\h9g1epll.default\Mail\pop.gmail.com\Sent and \Documents and Settings\Popper\Application Data\Mozilla\Profiles\default\jcznygmx.slt\Mail\pop.gmail-1.com\Inbox and \Documents and Settings\Popper\Application Data\Mozilla\Profiles\default\jcznygmx.slt\Mail\pop.gmail-1.com\Sent What can I do to render these files fragmentable? Thanks, Serge Make sure you don't have quick launch enabled. Files that are in use can not be defragmented. This may not be the problem, but the first thought I had. Wasn't enabled, thanks. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Defragmentation
MCBastos wrote: Interviewed by CNN on 25/11/2009 21:28, Serge Popper told the world: Did you compact the mailboxes first? That may shrink them enough to make defragmentation more possible. No, I didn't. I'll try that. Thanks. Another thing: Don't forget to *close* *all* the Seamonkey windows (not only the mail windows, but also the browser, composer etc.) before running the defragger. If Seamonkey is opened, it's likely that the files will be tagged as in use and left alone. You might try a more powerful defragger too -- the one that comes with Windows is pretty wimpy. My favourite is Raxco PerfectDisk, but that costs money. Some well-regarded free ones: - Defraggler: http://www.piriform.com/defraggler - MyDefrag (formerly known as JKDefrag): http://www.mydefrag.com/ - UltraDefrag: http://ultradefrag.sourceforge.net/ - Power Defragmenter: a GUI for the Contig utility which was mentioned in a previous message. http://cid-94a12102e5094675.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/eXcessive%20Software/PowerDefragmenter.zip Note that PowerDefragmenter is hosted in a Windows Live Skydrive page -- which doesn't load on SeaMonkey due to being served as XML despite not passing well-formedness. You will have to use a non-Gecko browser, such as Internet Explorer, Opera, Safari or Chrome, to see the page and download the file. I'm downloading Raxo as I type. Will try it and let you know. Thanks for the help. Serge ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Defragmentation
Serge Popper wrote: My XP home edition leaves LARGE chunks of fragmented files behind called Files that cannot be defragmented,when finished with a defrag. These files are all Mozilla, range from 565 to 4,367 fragments each. Files such as: \Documents and Settings\Popper\Application Data\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\h9g1epll.default\Mail\pop.gmail.com\Sent and \Documents and Settings\Popper\Application Data\Mozilla\Profiles\default\jcznygmx.slt\Mail\pop.gmail-1.com\Inbox and \Documents and Settings\Popper\Application Data\Mozilla\Profiles\default\jcznygmx.slt\Mail\pop.gmail-1.com\Sent What can I do to render these files fragmentable? Close Seamonkey before you run defrag. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
