Re: How to show my local time zone when forwarding e-mails?

[David E. Ross]

On 12/6/2017 10:41 PM, Ant wrote:
> On 12/6/2017 8:22 PM, David E. Ross wrote:
>> On 12/6/2017 3:01 PM, Ant wrote:
>>> On 12/5/2017 4:16 PM, David E. Ross wrote:
 On 12/5/2017 9:12 AM, Ant wrote:
> Hello.
>
> I noticed when I forward e-mails, SeaMonkey uses GMT like "Date: Tue, 5
> Dec 2017 18:52:06 +0800" instead of 2:52:06 AM PST (my local USA's PST
> time). How can I have it show my local time zone instead like when
> reading and replying? It is weird it is only happening when forwarding.
>
> Thank you in advance. :)
>

 Your newsgroup message has the header fields
Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2017 09:12:27 -0800
 and
NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2017 11:12:25 -0600

 These are the Internet standards for representing dates and times.  They
 mean you submitted your message at 9:12:27 am Pacific Standard Time and
 it reached the NNTP server for news.mozilla.org at 11:12:25 am Central
 Standard Time.  The appearance that your message reached the NNTP server
 two seconds before you sent it indicates your PC clock is slightly fast
 and requires an adjustment.

 In other words, the time in these header fields are indeed local times.
 The added -0800 and -0600 indicate the time zones (Pacific and Central
 respectively) in the form of offsets from UTC.  A time in a header field
 that is actually UTC would have +.
>>>
>>> My 64-bit W7 HPE's clock uses Internet time. I just wanted my forwards
>>> to show my local time stamps.
>>>
>>
>> What is "Internet time"?
> 
> NTP synchronization for Windows' clocks with time.windows.com, 
> ...nist.gov, and any other time servers.
> 

The correct term for that is "Network time", not "Internet time".  The
term "Network time" results from RFC 5905, which presents the Network
Time Protocol (NTP) by which time data are distributed.

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Re: How to show my local time zone when forwarding e-mails?

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On 12/7/2017 3:32 AM, Daniel wrote:
...
Hmm! As I'm reading about BMT, I'm also watching Startrek:Voyager where 
they talk about Star Dates like 48732.7, i. e. a decimal time scale, 
maybe related to BMT!! ;-P


Ha. All Star Trek! That would be amusing to use instead of Earth's time. ;)
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Re: How to show my local time zone when forwarding e-mails?

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Ant wrote:

On 12/6/2017 11:09 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Ant wrote:

On 12/6/2017 8:22 PM, David E. Ross wrote:


What is "Internet time"?


NTP synchronization for Windows' clocks with time.windows.com, 
...nist.gov, and any other time servers.


Oh, so it's not this?




Ha. No. Basically, atomic time.


Hmm! As I'm reading about BMT, I'm also watching Startrek:Voyager where 
they talk about Star Dates like 48732.7, i. e. a decimal time scale, 
maybe related to BMT!! ;-P


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Re: How to show my local time zone when forwarding e-mails?

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On 12/6/2017 11:09 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Ant wrote:

On 12/6/2017 8:22 PM, David E. Ross wrote:


What is "Internet time"?


NTP synchronization for Windows' clocks with time.windows.com, 
...nist.gov, and any other time servers.


Oh, so it's not this?




Ha. No. Basically, atomic time.
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Re: How to show my local time zone when forwarding e-mails?

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Ant wrote:

On 12/6/2017 8:22 PM, David E. Ross wrote:


What is "Internet time"?


NTP synchronization for Windows' clocks with time.windows.com, 
...nist.gov, and any other time servers.


Oh, so it's not this?



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Re: How to show my local time zone when forwarding e-mails?

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On 12/6/2017 8:22 PM, David E. Ross wrote:

On 12/6/2017 3:01 PM, Ant wrote:

On 12/5/2017 4:16 PM, David E. Ross wrote:

On 12/5/2017 9:12 AM, Ant wrote:

Hello.

I noticed when I forward e-mails, SeaMonkey uses GMT like "Date: Tue, 5
Dec 2017 18:52:06 +0800" instead of 2:52:06 AM PST (my local USA's PST
time). How can I have it show my local time zone instead like when
reading and replying? It is weird it is only happening when forwarding.

Thank you in advance. :)



Your newsgroup message has the header fields
Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2017 09:12:27 -0800
and
NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2017 11:12:25 -0600

These are the Internet standards for representing dates and times.  They
mean you submitted your message at 9:12:27 am Pacific Standard Time and
it reached the NNTP server for news.mozilla.org at 11:12:25 am Central
Standard Time.  The appearance that your message reached the NNTP server
two seconds before you sent it indicates your PC clock is slightly fast
and requires an adjustment.

In other words, the time in these header fields are indeed local times.
The added -0800 and -0600 indicate the time zones (Pacific and Central
respectively) in the form of offsets from UTC.  A time in a header field
that is actually UTC would have +.


My 64-bit W7 HPE's clock uses Internet time. I just wanted my forwards
to show my local time stamps.



What is "Internet time"?


NTP synchronization for Windows' clocks with time.windows.com, 
...nist.gov, and any other time servers.

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Re: How to show my local time zone when forwarding e-mails?

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On 12/6/2017 9:59 PM, Ray_Net wrote:

Ant wrote on 07-12-17 03:51:

On 12/6/2017 5:29 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Ant wrote:

My 64-bit W7 HPE's clock uses Internet time. I just wanted my 
forwards to show my local time stamps.


They do...

Your message (forwarded below) shows your local time stamp "-0800." 
If you're asking for a human-readable, user-friendly version like 
"PST," you'll have to say that, because everyone's missing your point.


Yes, a human-readable UF version like PST.



That's NOT possible as I have understood 
What you can do is to put in your signature that text:

If you see in my mail header: Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2017 18:51:47 -0800
My local time is: Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2017 10:51:47 PST - Because PST time 
is GMT time minus 8 hours.


Bummer and thanks. I was hoping there was a hack or trick to do it with 
user.js, about:config, etc. Oh well. :(

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Re: How to show my local time zone when forwarding e-mails?

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Ray_Net wrote:

Ant wrote on 07-12-17 03:51:

On 12/6/2017 5:29 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Ant wrote:

My 64-bit W7 HPE's clock uses Internet time. I just wanted my 
forwards to show my local time stamps.


They do...

Your message (forwarded below) shows your local time stamp "-0800." 
If you're asking for a human-readable, user-friendly version like 
"PST," you'll have to say that, because everyone's missing your point.


Yes, a human-readable UF version like PST.


That's NOT possible as I have understood 
What you can do is to put in your signature that text:

If you see in my mail header: Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2017 18:51:47 -0800
My local time is: Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2017 10:51:47 PST - Because PST time 
is GMT time minus 8 hours.


Or more simply:
Time zone -0800 is Pacific Standard Time.

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Re: How to show my local time zone when forwarding e-mails?

[Ray_Net]

Ant wrote on 07-12-17 03:51:

On 12/6/2017 5:29 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Ant wrote:

My 64-bit W7 HPE's clock uses Internet time. I just wanted my 
forwards to show my local time stamps.


They do...

Your message (forwarded below) shows your local time stamp "-0800." 
If you're asking for a human-readable, user-friendly version like 
"PST," you'll have to say that, because everyone's missing your point.


Yes, a human-readable UF version like PST.



That's NOT possible as I have understood 
What you can do is to put in your signature that text:

If you see in my mail header: Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2017 18:51:47 -0800
My local time is: Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2017 10:51:47 PST - Because PST time 
is GMT time minus 8 hours.

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Re: How to show my local time zone when forwarding e-mails?

[David E. Ross]

On 12/6/2017 3:01 PM, Ant wrote:
> On 12/5/2017 4:16 PM, David E. Ross wrote:
>> On 12/5/2017 9:12 AM, Ant wrote:
>>> Hello.
>>>
>>> I noticed when I forward e-mails, SeaMonkey uses GMT like "Date: Tue, 5
>>> Dec 2017 18:52:06 +0800" instead of 2:52:06 AM PST (my local USA's PST
>>> time). How can I have it show my local time zone instead like when
>>> reading and replying? It is weird it is only happening when forwarding.
>>>
>>> Thank you in advance. :)
>>>
>>
>> Your newsgroup message has the header fields
>>  Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2017 09:12:27 -0800
>> and
>>  NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2017 11:12:25 -0600
>>
>> These are the Internet standards for representing dates and times.  They
>> mean you submitted your message at 9:12:27 am Pacific Standard Time and
>> it reached the NNTP server for news.mozilla.org at 11:12:25 am Central
>> Standard Time.  The appearance that your message reached the NNTP server
>> two seconds before you sent it indicates your PC clock is slightly fast
>> and requires an adjustment.
>>
>> In other words, the time in these header fields are indeed local times.
>> The added -0800 and -0600 indicate the time zones (Pacific and Central
>> respectively) in the form of offsets from UTC.  A time in a header field
>> that is actually UTC would have +.
> 
> My 64-bit W7 HPE's clock uses Internet time. I just wanted my forwards 
> to show my local time stamps.
> 

What is "Internet time"?

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Re: How to show my local time zone when forwarding e-mails?

[Ant via support-seamonkey]

On 12/6/2017 5:29 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Ant wrote:

My 64-bit W7 HPE's clock uses Internet time. I just wanted my forwards 
to show my local time stamps.


They do...

Your message (forwarded below) shows your local time stamp "-0800." If 
you're asking for a human-readable, user-friendly version like "PST," 
you'll have to say that, because everyone's missing your point.


Yes, a human-readable UF version like PST.


BTW, the "+0800" you requested is not Pacific Standard Time, it's China 
Standard Time (also includes parts of Russia, Mongolia, Philippines, 
Singapore, Malaysia, Indonesia, and Western Australia). ;-)





Well, it was an example of what I saw. I wanted to see my local time and 
not China's.

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Re: How to show my local time zone when forwarding e-mails?

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Ant wrote:

My 64-bit W7 HPE's clock uses Internet time. I just wanted my forwards 
to show my local time stamps.


They do...

Your message (forwarded below) shows your local time stamp "-0800." If 
you're asking for a human-readable, user-friendly version like "PST," 
you'll have to say that, because everyone's missing your point.


BTW, the "+0800" you requested is not Pacific Standard Time, it's China 
Standard Time (also includes parts of Russia, Mongolia, Philippines, 
Singapore, Malaysia, Indonesia, and Western Australia). ;-)


<https://www.timeanddate.com/time/zones/cst-china>


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On 12/5/2017 4:16 PM, David E. Ross wrote:

On 12/5/2017 9:12 AM, Ant wrote:

... [snip]


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Re: How to show my local time zone when forwarding e-mails?

[Ant via support-seamonkey]

On 12/5/2017 4:16 PM, David E. Ross wrote:

On 12/5/2017 9:12 AM, Ant wrote:

Hello.

I noticed when I forward e-mails, SeaMonkey uses GMT like "Date: Tue, 5
Dec 2017 18:52:06 +0800" instead of 2:52:06 AM PST (my local USA's PST
time). How can I have it show my local time zone instead like when
reading and replying? It is weird it is only happening when forwarding.

Thank you in advance. :)



Your newsgroup message has the header fields
Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2017 09:12:27 -0800
and
NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2017 11:12:25 -0600

These are the Internet standards for representing dates and times.  They
mean you submitted your message at 9:12:27 am Pacific Standard Time and
it reached the NNTP server for news.mozilla.org at 11:12:25 am Central
Standard Time.  The appearance that your message reached the NNTP server
two seconds before you sent it indicates your PC clock is slightly fast
and requires an adjustment.

In other words, the time in these header fields are indeed local times.
The added -0800 and -0600 indicate the time zones (Pacific and Central
respectively) in the form of offsets from UTC.  A time in a header field
that is actually UTC would have +.


My 64-bit W7 HPE's clock uses Internet time. I just wanted my forwards 
to show my local time stamps.

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Re: How to show my local time zone when forwarding e-mails?

[David E. Ross]

On 12/5/2017 9:12 AM, Ant wrote:
> Hello.
> 
> I noticed when I forward e-mails, SeaMonkey uses GMT like "Date: Tue, 5 
> Dec 2017 18:52:06 +0800" instead of 2:52:06 AM PST (my local USA's PST 
> time). How can I have it show my local time zone instead like when 
> reading and replying? It is weird it is only happening when forwarding.
> 
> Thank you in advance. :)
> 

Your newsgroup message has the header fields
Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2017 09:12:27 -0800
and
NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2017 11:12:25 -0600

These are the Internet standards for representing dates and times.  They
mean you submitted your message at 9:12:27 am Pacific Standard Time and
it reached the NNTP server for news.mozilla.org at 11:12:25 am Central
Standard Time.  The appearance that your message reached the NNTP server
two seconds before you sent it indicates your PC clock is slightly fast
and requires an adjustment.

In other words, the time in these header fields are indeed local times.
The added -0800 and -0600 indicate the time zones (Pacific and Central
respectively) in the form of offsets from UTC.  A time in a header field
that is actually UTC would have +.

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