Re: How to switch from plain text to html

2015-03-28 Thread Chris Ilias

On 2015-03-26 11:50 AM, Ray_Net wrote:

Ant wrote on 26/03/2015 09:23:

On 3/25/2015 9:51 AM, Ray_Net wrote:
...

This bug: Reported: 2002-04-16
13 years without correction of this bug.
As I said always - developpers prefer playing with new gadgets ...


Well, they are volunteers. Maybe if they got paid, they would fix
these bugs. :(

Well, they are not paid, but work hardly on new gadgets :-)


Please stop spreading misinformation about SeaMonkey development. Here's 
a list of SeaMonkey specific bugs bugs fixed in 2.33: 
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?o5=notequalsf1=OPv6=fixedo3=equalsv3=fixedresolution=FIXEDo6=notequalso2=equalsf4=CPv5=fixedquery_format=advancedj1=ORf3=cf_status_seamonkey233f2=target_milestonef5=cf_status_seamonkey232f6=cf_status_seamonkey231v2=seamonkey2.33


Those are all maintenance bugs.

Furthermore, each developer is different. To group all developers in one 
blanket statement is ignorant. You're misleading others with false 
information, so please stop it.


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Re: How to switch from plain text to html

2015-03-28 Thread Ray_Net

Chris Ilias wrote on 28/03/2015 17:27:

On 2015-03-26 11:50 AM, Ray_Net wrote:

Ant wrote on 26/03/2015 09:23:

On 3/25/2015 9:51 AM, Ray_Net wrote:
...

This bug: Reported: 2002-04-16
13 years without correction of this bug.
As I said always - developpers prefer playing with new gadgets ...


Well, they are volunteers. Maybe if they got paid, they would fix
these bugs. :(

Well, they are not paid, but work hardly on new gadgets :-)


Please stop spreading misinformation about SeaMonkey development. 
Here's a list of SeaMonkey specific bugs bugs fixed in 2.33: 
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?o5=notequalsf1=OPv6=fixedo3=equalsv3=fixedresolution=FIXEDo6=notequalso2=equalsf4=CPv5=fixedquery_format=advancedj1=ORf3=cf_status_seamonkey233f2=target_milestonef5=cf_status_seamonkey232f6=cf_status_seamonkey231v2=seamonkey2.33


Those are all maintenance bugs.

Furthermore, each developer is different. To group all developers in 
one blanket statement is ignorant. You're misleading others with false 
information, so please stop it.


ok, ok, but I have a huge list of not corrected bug from years ... the 
sky is not always blue ...

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Re: How to switch from plain text to html

2015-03-26 Thread Ant

On 3/25/2015 9:51 AM, Ray_Net wrote:
...

This bug: Reported: 2002-04-16
13 years without correction of this bug.
As I said always - developpers prefer playing with new gadgets ...


Well, they are volunteers. Maybe if they got paid, they would fix these 
bugs. :(

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Re: How to switch from plain text to html

2015-03-26 Thread Ray_Net

Ant wrote on 26/03/2015 09:23:

On 3/25/2015 9:51 AM, Ray_Net wrote:
...

This bug: Reported: 2002-04-16
13 years without correction of this bug.
As I said always - developpers prefer playing with new gadgets ...


Well, they are volunteers. Maybe if they got paid, they would fix 
these bugs. :(

Well, they are not paid, but work hardly on new gadgets :-)
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Re: How to switch from plain text to html

2015-03-25 Thread Barry Edwin Gilmour

Ray_Net wrote on 25/03/15 08:09:

Barry Edwin Gilmour wrote on 24/03/2015 08:23:

Ray_Net wrote on 24/03/15 08:01:

When i send an html mail without html command - the mail is sent as
pure plain text without my intervention.
So far, so good.

I decide now to resend this mail with some extra text to, per
example, another guy -  this extra text perhaps in RED color.

So I click on Edit Message as New  and I am faced now with a mail
in plain text where i cannot add html commands.
The SM editor did not give me, per example, the html bar.

How can I switch to the Editor in HTML mode ?

Is your setting in Edit, Mail  Newsgroup Account Settings,(your
account or newsgroup folder name), Composition  Addressing,
Composition, Compose messages in HTML format checkbox ticked?

All Accounts and all NewsGroups have Compose messages in HTML format
ticked.
The problem is when i do Edit Message as New on a sent message who
was sent in plain text without my decision. (SM decide to not send in
html nor both when there is no html command in the message)
I agree with that action, BUT when i click on Edit Message as New
for this sent message, SM must permit me to work in html mode -
because I have All Accounts and all NewsGroups have Compose messages
in HTML format ticked.

If someone tell me how to achieve this, I will be happy.


You are correct.
Even in tonight's nightly trunk build, there's no Option, Format 
menu-drop-down list, on the Edit Message as New Compose-window 
toolbar, to edit a plain-text message-body as HTML, so one has 
zero-option to create HTML, without resorting to opening the 
message-body in Composer, editing the message body, and copy and pasting 
it back into a new-mail window.


Following-on from the similar issue/thread Sending a new HTML e-mail 
reverts back to plain text?, being discussed by Mark and Ant in this 
newsgroup, where sending a paragraph-aligned message-body as HTML sends 
as plain-text, and where their proposal is to add a space formatted in 
colour, just to get a HTML paragraph-formatted HTML-email sent as HTML, 
- which isn't an option for us, because the HTML menu and toolbar, just 
isn't available in the Edit Message as New Compose window of a plain 
text message-body, I don't think I would agree with the concept of a 
HTML paragraph-layout message body, being converted to plain text, 
especially where that was never the sender's intention. It seems one now 
has to edit it in Composer, then drag it back into Mail as a new HTML email.


I think this may be the bug we want?

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=137884
Options-Format Menu missing when using File-New-Message

It seems that this bug is blocked by format - auto-detect
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Re: How to switch from plain text to html

2015-03-25 Thread Barry Edwin Gilmour

Ray_Net wrote on 25/03/15 08:09:

Barry Edwin Gilmour wrote on 24/03/2015 08:23:

Ray_Net wrote on 24/03/15 08:01:

When i send an html mail without html command - the mail is sent as
pure plain text without my intervention.
So far, so good.

I decide now to resend this mail with some extra text to, per
example, another guy -  this extra text perhaps in RED color.

So I click on Edit Message as New  and I am faced now with a mail
in plain text where i cannot add html commands.
The SM editor did not give me, per example, the html bar.

How can I switch to the Editor in HTML mode ?

Is your setting in Edit, Mail  Newsgroup Account Settings,(your
account or newsgroup folder name), Composition  Addressing,
Composition, Compose messages in HTML format checkbox ticked?

All Accounts and all NewsGroups have Compose messages in HTML format
ticked.
The problem is when i do Edit Message as New on a sent message who
was sent in plain text without my decision. (SM decide to not send in
html nor both when there is no html command in the message)
I agree with that action, BUT when i click on Edit Message as New
for this sent message, SM must permit me to work in html mode -
because I have All Accounts and all NewsGroups have Compose messages
in HTML format ticked.

If someone tell me how to achieve this, I will be happy.


You are correct.
Even in tonight's nightly trunk build, there's no Option, Format 
menu-drop-down list, on the Edit Message as New Compose-window 
toolbar, to edit a plain-text message-body as HTML, so one has 
zero-option to create HTML, without resorting to opening the 
message-body in Composer, editing the message body, and copy and pasting 
it back into a new-mail window.


Following-on from the similar issue/thread Sending a new HTML e-mail 
reverts back to plain text?, being discussed by Mark and Ant in this 
newsgroup, where sending a paragraph-aligned message-body as HTML sends 
as plain-text, and where their proposal is to add a space formatted in 
colour, just to get a HTML paragraph-formatted HTML-email sent as HTML, 
- which isn't an option for us, because the HTML menu and toolbar, just 
isn't available in the Edit Message as New Compose window of a plain 
text message-body, I don't think I would agree with the concept of a 
HTML paragraph-layout message body, being converted to plain text, 
especially where that was never the sender's intention. It seems one now 
has to edit it in Composer, then drag it back into Mail as a new HTML email.


I think this may be the bug we want?

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=137884
Options-Format Menu missing when using File-New-Message

It seems that this bug is blocked by format - auto-detect

Sorry, I hit send too quickly!

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=136502
is asking for an ability to turn-off auto-detect, so that the users menu 
selection can be preferenced to the auto-detect feature that's used 
extensively throughout the messaging client.


The auto-detect tracking bug is
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=889315
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Re: How to switch from plain text to html

2015-03-25 Thread Ray_Net

Barry Edwin Gilmour wrote on 25/03/2015 08:18:

Ray_Net wrote on 25/03/15 08:09:

Barry Edwin Gilmour wrote on 24/03/2015 08:23:

Ray_Net wrote on 24/03/15 08:01:

When i send an html mail without html command - the mail is sent as
pure plain text without my intervention.
So far, so good.

I decide now to resend this mail with some extra text to, per
example, another guy -  this extra text perhaps in RED color.

So I click on Edit Message as New  and I am faced now with a mail
in plain text where i cannot add html commands.
The SM editor did not give me, per example, the html bar.

How can I switch to the Editor in HTML mode ?

Is your setting in Edit, Mail  Newsgroup Account Settings,(your
account or newsgroup folder name), Composition  Addressing,
Composition, Compose messages in HTML format checkbox ticked?

All Accounts and all NewsGroups have Compose messages in HTML format
ticked.
The problem is when i do Edit Message as New on a sent message who
was sent in plain text without my decision. (SM decide to not send in
html nor both when there is no html command in the message)
I agree with that action, BUT when i click on Edit Message as New
for this sent message, SM must permit me to work in html mode -
because I have All Accounts and all NewsGroups have Compose messages
in HTML format ticked.

If someone tell me how to achieve this, I will be happy.


You are correct.
Even in tonight's nightly trunk build, there's no Option, Format 
menu-drop-down list, on the Edit Message as New Compose-window 
toolbar, to edit a plain-text message-body as HTML, so one has 
zero-option to create HTML, without resorting to opening the 
message-body in Composer, editing the message body, and copy and 
pasting it back into a new-mail window.


Following-on from the similar issue/thread Sending a new HTML e-mail 
reverts back to plain text?, being discussed by Mark and Ant in this 
newsgroup, where sending a paragraph-aligned message-body as HTML 
sends as plain-text, and where their proposal is to add a space 
formatted in colour, just to get a HTML paragraph-formatted HTML-email 
sent as HTML, - which isn't an option for us, because the HTML menu 
and toolbar, just isn't available in the Edit Message as New Compose 
window of a plain text message-body, I don't think I would agree with 
the concept of a HTML paragraph-layout message body, being converted 
to plain text, especially where that was never the sender's intention. 
It seems one now has to edit it in Composer, then drag it back into 
Mail as a new HTML email.


I think this may be the bug we want?

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=137884
Options-Format Menu missing when using File-New-Message

It seems that this bug is blocked by format - auto-detect

This bug: Reported: 2002-04-16
13 years without correction of this bug.
As I said always - developpers prefer playing with new gadgets ...
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Re: How to switch from plain text to html

2015-03-25 Thread Ray_Net

Barry Edwin Gilmour wrote on 25/03/2015 08:30:

Ray_Net wrote on 25/03/15 08:09:

Barry Edwin Gilmour wrote on 24/03/2015 08:23:

Ray_Net wrote on 24/03/15 08:01:

When i send an html mail without html command - the mail is sent as
pure plain text without my intervention.
So far, so good.

I decide now to resend this mail with some extra text to, per
example, another guy -  this extra text perhaps in RED color.

So I click on Edit Message as New  and I am faced now with a mail
in plain text where i cannot add html commands.
The SM editor did not give me, per example, the html bar.

How can I switch to the Editor in HTML mode ?

Is your setting in Edit, Mail  Newsgroup Account Settings,(your
account or newsgroup folder name), Composition  Addressing,
Composition, Compose messages in HTML format checkbox ticked?

All Accounts and all NewsGroups have Compose messages in HTML format
ticked.
The problem is when i do Edit Message as New on a sent message who
was sent in plain text without my decision. (SM decide to not send in
html nor both when there is no html command in the message)
I agree with that action, BUT when i click on Edit Message as New
for this sent message, SM must permit me to work in html mode -
because I have All Accounts and all NewsGroups have Compose messages
in HTML format ticked.

If someone tell me how to achieve this, I will be happy.


You are correct.
Even in tonight's nightly trunk build, there's no Option, Format 
menu-drop-down list, on the Edit Message as New Compose-window 
toolbar, to edit a plain-text message-body as HTML, so one has 
zero-option to create HTML, without resorting to opening the 
message-body in Composer, editing the message body, and copy and 
pasting it back into a new-mail window.


Following-on from the similar issue/thread Sending a new HTML e-mail 
reverts back to plain text?, being discussed by Mark and Ant in this 
newsgroup, where sending a paragraph-aligned message-body as HTML 
sends as plain-text, and where their proposal is to add a space 
formatted in colour, just to get a HTML paragraph-formatted HTML-email 
sent as HTML, - which isn't an option for us, because the HTML menu 
and toolbar, just isn't available in the Edit Message as New Compose 
window of a plain text message-body, I don't think I would agree with 
the concept of a HTML paragraph-layout message body, being converted 
to plain text, especially where that was never the sender's intention. 
It seems one now has to edit it in Composer, then drag it back into 
Mail as a new HTML email.


I think this may be the bug we want?

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=137884
Options-Format Menu missing when using File-New-Message

It seems that this bug is blocked by format - auto-detect

Sorry, I hit send too quickly!

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=136502
is asking for an ability to turn-off auto-detect, so that the users 
menu selection can be preferenced to the auto-detect feature that's 
used extensively throughout the messaging client.


The auto-detect tracking bug is
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=889315

Reported: 2002-04-09

The problem is DEAD 
I agree that SM send in plain text when there is no html code.
But SM must permit me to insert an HTML code in an Edit message as New 
of this sent message.

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Re: How to switch from plain text to html

2015-03-24 Thread Ray_Net

Barry Edwin Gilmour wrote on 24/03/2015 08:23:

Ray_Net wrote on 24/03/15 08:01:
When i send an html mail without html command - the mail is sent as 
pure plain text without my intervention.

So far, so good.

I decide now to resend this mail with some extra text to, per 
example, another guy -  this extra text perhaps in RED color.


So I click on Edit Message as New  and I am faced now with a mail 
in plain text where i cannot add html commands.

The SM editor did not give me, per example, the html bar.

How can I switch to the Editor in HTML mode ?
Is your setting in Edit, Mail  Newsgroup Account Settings,(your 
account or newsgroup folder name), Composition  Addressing, 
Composition, Compose messages in HTML format checkbox ticked?
All Accounts and all NewsGroups have Compose messages in HTML format 
ticked.
The problem is when i do Edit Message as New on a sent message who was 
sent in plain text without my decision. (SM decide to not send in html 
nor both when there is no html command in the message)
I agree with that action, BUT when i click on Edit Message as New for 
this sent message, SM must permit me to work in html mode - because I 
have All Accounts and all NewsGroups have Compose messages in HTML 
format ticked.


If someone tell me how to achieve this, I will be happy.

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Re: How to switch from plain text to html

2015-03-24 Thread Barry Edwin Gilmour

Ray_Net wrote on 25/03/15 08:09:

Barry Edwin Gilmour wrote on 24/03/2015 08:23:

Ray_Net wrote on 24/03/15 08:01:
When i send an html mail without html command - the mail is sent as 
pure plain text without my intervention.

So far, so good.

I decide now to resend this mail with some extra text to, per 
example, another guy -  this extra text perhaps in RED color.


So I click on Edit Message as New  and I am faced now with a mail 
in plain text where i cannot add html commands.

The SM editor did not give me, per example, the html bar.

How can I switch to the Editor in HTML mode ?
Is your setting in Edit, Mail  Newsgroup Account Settings,(your 
account or newsgroup folder name), Composition  Addressing, 
Composition, Compose messages in HTML format checkbox ticked?
All Accounts and all NewsGroups have Compose messages in HTML format 
ticked.
The problem is when i do Edit Message as New on a sent message who 
was sent in plain text without my decision. (SM decide to not send in 
html nor both when there is no html command in the message)
I agree with that action, BUT when i click on Edit Message as New 
for this sent message, SM must permit me to work in html mode - 
because I have All Accounts and all NewsGroups have Compose messages 
in HTML format ticked.


If someone tell me how to achieve this, I will be happy.


You are correct.
Even in tonight's nightly trunk build, there's no Option, Format 
menu-drop-down list, on the Edit Message as New Compose-window 
toolbar, to edit a plain-text message-body as HTML, so one has 
zero-option to create HTML, without resorting to opening the 
message-body in Composer, editing the message body, and copy and pasting 
it back into a new-mail window.


Following-on from the similar issue/thread Sending a new HTML e-mail 
reverts back to plain text?, being discussed by Mark and Ant in this 
newsgroup, where sending a paragraph-aligned message-body as HTML sends 
as plain-text, and where their proposal is to add a space formatted in 
colour, just to get a HTML paragraph-formatted HTML-email sent as HTML, 
- which isn't an option for us, because the HTML menu and toolbar, just 
isn't available in the Edit Message as New Compose window of a plain 
text message-body, I don't think I would agree with the concept of a 
HTML paragraph-layout message body, being converted to plain text, 
especially where that was never the sender's intention. It seems one now 
has to edit it in Composer, then drag it back into Mail as a new HTML email.





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Re: How to switch from plain text to html

2015-03-24 Thread Barry Edwin Gilmour

Ray_Net wrote on 24/03/15 08:01:
When i send an html mail without html command - the mail is sent as 
pure plain text without my intervention.

So far, so good.

I decide now to resend this mail with some extra text to, per example, 
another guy -  this extra text perhaps in RED color.


So I click on Edit Message as New  and I am faced now with a mail in 
plain text where i cannot add html commands.

The SM editor did not give me, per example, the html bar.

How can I switch to the Editor in HTML mode ?
Is your setting in Edit, Mail  Newsgroup Account Settings,(your 
account or newsgroup folder name), Composition  Addressing, 
Composition, Compose messages in HTML format checkbox ticked?

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