Re: IE and Chrome could connect at a McDonald's but SM could not

2014-01-04 Thread Daniel

On 04/01/14 14:20, Ray Davison wrote:

NFN Smith wrote:


I'm guessing that the problem is likely to be something specific in
your profile, rather than Seamonkey itself.


Two machines, the problem only at the same two locations?  I did set up
both, but not at the same time, and some time ago.


Try Help - Restart with Add-ons disabled, which will allow you to
start Seamonkey in safe mode, with default settings.  Or you could
try adding an additional profile that has all default settings.


I don't mind creating additional profiles, but those two locations were
temporary on-road stops, so I cannot create the issue at will.


Ray, if the problems occured on the road, have you been down to your 
local Macca's to see if you can use their WLAN?? i.e. determine if the 
problem is with your system or with those two Macca's Store sites??


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Re: IE and Chrome could connect at a McDonald's but SM could not

2014-01-04 Thread NFN Smith

Daniel wrote:

On 04/01/14 14:20, Ray Davison wrote:

NFN Smith wrote:


I'm guessing that the problem is likely to be something specific in
your profile, rather than Seamonkey itself.


Two machines, the problem only at the same two locations?  I did set up
both, but not at the same time, and some time ago.


That would make it less likely that it's profile-specific, but certainly 
not impossible.




Try Help - Restart with Add-ons disabled, which will allow you to
start Seamonkey in safe mode, with default settings.  Or you could
try adding an additional profile that has all default settings.


I don't mind creating additional profiles, but those two locations were
temporary on-road stops, so I cannot create the issue at will.


Ray, if the problems occured on the road, have you been down to your
local Macca's to see if you can use their WLAN?? i.e. determine if the
problem is with your system or with those two Macca's Store sites??



could be an issue with that particular location.

One other thought could be something with your firewall.

I found this a couple of years back with Comodo on Windows 7 (and at a 
McDonald's, to boot), where I was having problems SMTP from Seamonkey.


It took a while, but I discovered that the Windows firewall got enabled 
for that WAP, and that I had chosen to classify as public, and that 
was blocking my mail connections.  When I re-disabled the Windows 
firewall, I had no problems with sending.


Smith

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Re: IE and Chrome could connect at a McDonald's but SM could not

2014-01-03 Thread NFN Smith

Ray Davison wrote:

My wife and I were trying to use the WiFi at a McDonald's.  Both these
machines have been to various McDonald's often enough that normally all
we do is power on, wait until everything settles, and we are connected.
   Open the SM browser to any page, it will get redirected to ATT-McD,
click connect, and SM works normally.

The other day we opened SM, tried to open a page, the tab said ATT-McD,
the pinwheel twirled.  The bottom of the page said transferring data,
but no page ever opened.


I'm guessing that the problem is likely to be something specific in your 
profile, rather than Seamonkey itself.


Try Help - Restart with Add-ons disabled, which will allow you to start 
Seamonkey in safe mode, with default settings.  Or you could try adding 
an additional profile that has all default settings.


It's been a while since I've been into a McDonald's, but I've never had 
any problems there with Seamonkey.


It used to be that some sites had problems with Seamonkey (e.g. page 
developers that equate Gecko and Firefox, without understanding that 
Firefox is merely one implementation of Gecko), and doing browser 
sniffing that insists on Firefox as the *only* alternative to IE.  In 
that era, some of us Seamonkey users did some tweaking of the browser 
identity string (by hacking prefs.js) to show both Firefox and 
Seamonkey (as a way of spoofing Firefox, and communicating in log 
entries that nobody uses Seamonkey is false).


A little easier than hacking prefs.js directly is via extension -- 
either PrefsBar or User Agent Switcher.


In the meantime, since approximately the time that Mozilla went to Rapid 
Release on Firefox and Thunderbird, the Seamonkey developers have moved 
to using a string that shows Firefox, in a way that pretty much 
satisfies sites that demand Firefox.  Since that happened, I don't think 
I can remember bumping into a site that won't accept Seamonkey.  Most 
often, if I have a site that's not behaving correctly, I assume that 
it's a result of over-aggressive use of NoScript, AdBlock and/or 
Ghostery, on my part.  If I can't tune settings to make things work 
correctly, I generally will restart Seamonkey in safe mode, or 
temporarily move to the profile I keep that has only default settings.


Smith






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Re: IE and Chrome could connect at a McDonald's but SM could not

2014-01-03 Thread regz91

Ray Davison wrote:

My wife and I were trying to use the WiFi at a McDonald's.  Both these
machines have been to various McDonald's often enough that normally all
we do is power on, wait until everything settles, and we are connected.
  Open the SM browser to any page, it will get redirected to ATT-McD,
click connect, and SM works normally.

The other day we opened SM, tried to open a page, the tab said ATT-McD,
the pinwheel twirled.  The bottom of the page said transferring data,
but no page ever opened.

The manager was able to open the page on her phone, but not on my
machine.  An employe closed SM and opened Chrome, and the ATT-McD page
loaded and connected.  I minimized Chrome and opened SM and it worked
normally.  My wife did the same things using IE and her SM then worked.

Does anyone understand this?  Since every Win box has IE that
work-around is not to difficult, but is there a better way?

TY
Ray

Try switching off IPV6 through about:config and restart the browser

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Re: IE and Chrome could connect at a McDonald's but SM could not

2014-01-03 Thread Ed Mullen

Ray Davison wrote:

My wife and I were trying to use the WiFi at a McDonald's.  Both these
machines have been to various McDonald's often enough that normally all
we do is power on, wait until everything settles, and we are connected.
  Open the SM browser to any page, it will get redirected to ATT-McD,
click connect, and SM works normally.

The other day we opened SM, tried to open a page, the tab said ATT-McD,
the pinwheel twirled.  The bottom of the page said transferring data,
but no page ever opened.

The manager was able to open the page on her phone, but not on my
machine.  An employe closed SM and opened Chrome, and the ATT-McD page
loaded and connected.  I minimized Chrome and opened SM and it worked
normally.  My wife did the same things using IE and her SM then worked.

Does anyone understand this?  Since every Win box has IE that
work-around is not to difficult, but is there a better way?

TY
Ray


No idea.  Happnes to me periodically.  Try Refresh.  That usually does 
it here.


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Re: IE and Chrome could connect at a McDonald's but SM could not

2014-01-03 Thread Ray Davison

regz91 wrote:


Try switching off IPV6 through about:config and restart the browser


This is how I found it.  I take it the double negative means it is on?
network.dns.disableIPv6;false

Ray

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Re: IE and Chrome could connect at a McDonald's but SM could not

2014-01-03 Thread Ray Davison

NFN Smith wrote:


I'm guessing that the problem is likely to be something specific in
your profile, rather than Seamonkey itself.


Two machines, the problem only at the same two locations?  I did set up
both, but not at the same time, and some time ago.


Try Help - Restart with Add-ons disabled, which will allow you to
start Seamonkey in safe mode, with default settings.  Or you could
try adding an additional profile that has all default settings.


I don't mind creating additional profiles, but those two locations were
temporary on-road stops, so I cannot create the issue at will.


In that era, some of us Seamonkey users did some tweaking of the
browser identity string (by hacking prefs.js) to show both Firefox
and Seamonkey (as a way of spoofing Firefox,


I only recall trying to spoof IE.

Ray


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Re: IE and Chrome could connect at a McDonald's but SM could not

2014-01-03 Thread regz91

Ray Davison wrote:

regz91 wrote:


Try switching off IPV6 through about:config and restart the browser


This is how I found it.  I take it the double negative means it is on?
network.dns.disableIPv6;false

Ray


Yes disableIPV6 should be true

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