Re: Mail Inbox Truncation

2011-03-17 Thread Barry Edwin Gilmour

Paul T. Karch wrote:
The last couple of days, when I have been downloading my email, I 
sporadically get a popup window saying something to the effect that an 
error has occurred in truncating Inbox.mbx(?) please delete this 
file.  I haven't deleted the file but after clicking the OK button the 
download continues apparently without problems.


But I am wondering if I am losing any emails.  One person told me he 
sent me emails but I haven't received any since

Jan. 30th from him.

I have a LOT of emails saved in Inbox and subfolders of Inbox - 
probably between 50k and 100k. And filters to route them.


I use Windows XP Pro and AVG scans for viruses.

Any insight/advice would be greatly appreciated. TIA.


I'll suggest repairing the folder via right-mouse-click on the 
Inbox-folder, scrolling down and clicking on Properties, and clicking on 
the "Repair Folder" button, although I suspect you've already tried 
repairing the folder.



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Re: Mail Inbox Truncation

2011-03-19 Thread Paul T. Karch

Barry Edwin Gilmour wrote:

Paul T. Karch wrote:

The last couple of days, when I have been downloading my email, I
sporadically get a popup window saying something to the effect that an
error has occurred in truncating Inbox.mbx(?) please delete this file.
I haven't deleted the file but after clicking the OK button the
download continues apparently without problems.

But I am wondering if I am losing any emails. One person told me he
sent me emails but I haven't received any since
Jan. 30th from him.

I have a LOT of emails saved in Inbox and subfolders of Inbox -
probably between 50k and 100k. And filters to route them.

I use Windows XP Pro and AVG scans for viruses.

Any insight/advice would be greatly appreciated. TIA.


I'll suggest repairing the folder via right-mouse-click on the
Inbox-folder, scrolling down and clicking on Properties, and clicking on
the "Repair Folder" button, although I suspect you've already tried
repairing the folder.


On my version of Seamonkey, following the steps you suggest, 
there is no button "Repair Folder" there is one labeled 
"Rebuild Summary File" is that equivalent ?

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Re: Mail Inbox Truncation

2011-03-19 Thread Barry Edwin Gilmour

Paul T. Karch wrote:

Barry Edwin Gilmour wrote:

Paul T. Karch wrote:

The last couple of days, when I have been downloading my email, I
sporadically get a popup window saying something to the effect that an
error has occurred in truncating Inbox.mbx(?) please delete this file.
I haven't deleted the file but after clicking the OK button the
download continues apparently without problems.

But I am wondering if I am losing any emails. One person told me he
sent me emails but I haven't received any since
Jan. 30th from him.

I have a LOT of emails saved in Inbox and subfolders of Inbox -
probably between 50k and 100k. And filters to route them.

I use Windows XP Pro and AVG scans for viruses.

Any insight/advice would be greatly appreciated. TIA.


I'll suggest repairing the folder via right-mouse-click on the
Inbox-folder, scrolling down and clicking on Properties, and clicking on
the "Repair Folder" button, although I suspect you've already tried
repairing the folder.


On my version of Seamonkey, following the steps you suggest, there is 
no button "Repair Folder" there is one labeled "Rebuild Summary File" 
is that equivalent ?


That's the button. The summary file is the index to your Inbox folder 
which gets sporadically confused, so needs a little rebuild.


Quoting from my little popup pane:-

"Sometimes the folder index-file becomes damaged and messages may appear 
missing, or deleted messages continue showing: repairing the folder may 
fix these issues"


Might be worth a try? HTH. Barry.
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Re: Mail Inbox Truncation

2011-03-19 Thread Barry Edwin Gilmour

Barry Edwin Gilmour wrote:

Paul T. Karch wrote:

Barry Edwin Gilmour wrote:

Paul T. Karch wrote:

The last couple of days, when I have been downloading my email, I
sporadically get a popup window saying something to the effect that an
error has occurred in truncating Inbox.mbx(?) please delete this file.
I haven't deleted the file but after clicking the OK button the
download continues apparently without problems.

But I am wondering if I am losing any emails. One person told me he
sent me emails but I haven't received any since
Jan. 30th from him.

I have a LOT of emails saved in Inbox and subfolders of Inbox -
probably between 50k and 100k. And filters to route them.

I use Windows XP Pro and AVG scans for viruses.

Any insight/advice would be greatly appreciated. TIA.


I'll suggest repairing the folder via right-mouse-click on the
Inbox-folder, scrolling down and clicking on Properties, and 
clicking on

the "Repair Folder" button, although I suspect you've already tried
repairing the folder.


On my version of Seamonkey, following the steps you suggest, there is 
no button "Repair Folder" there is one labeled "Rebuild Summary File" 
is that equivalent ?


That's the button. The summary file is the index to your Inbox folder 
which gets sporadically confused, so needs a little rebuild.


Quoting from my little popup pane:-

"Sometimes the folder index-file becomes damaged and messages may 
appear missing, or deleted messages continue showing: repairing the 
folder may fix these issues"


Might be worth a try? HTH. Barry.

Almost forgot: Your messages aren't touched by this action.
Rebuilding your index summary file for any folder, does not touch or 
corrupt your actual messages.
You are only rebuilding the actual tracking index-file for the messages 
that are actually in the (separate) message folder-file, which as the 
popup says, often exposes messages that are there, but are unviewable 
due to a corrupt index file entry. HTH.

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Re: Mail Inbox Truncation

2011-03-19 Thread Paul T. Karch

Barry Edwin Gilmour wrote:

Barry Edwin Gilmour wrote:

Paul T. Karch wrote:

Barry Edwin Gilmour wrote:

Paul T. Karch wrote:

The last couple of days, when I have been downloading my email, I
sporadically get a popup window saying something to the effect that an
error has occurred in truncating Inbox.mbx(?) please delete this file.
I haven't deleted the file but after clicking the OK button the
download continues apparently without problems.

But I am wondering if I am losing any emails. One person told me he
sent me emails but I haven't received any since
Jan. 30th from him.

I have a LOT of emails saved in Inbox and subfolders of Inbox -
probably between 50k and 100k. And filters to route them.

I use Windows XP Pro and AVG scans for viruses.

Any insight/advice would be greatly appreciated. TIA.


I'll suggest repairing the folder via right-mouse-click on the
Inbox-folder, scrolling down and clicking on Properties, and
clicking on
the "Repair Folder" button, although I suspect you've already tried
repairing the folder.



On my version of Seamonkey, following the steps you suggest, there is
no button "Repair Folder" there is one labeled "Rebuild Summary File"
is that equivalent ?


That's the button. The summary file is the index to your Inbox folder
which gets sporadically confused, so needs a little rebuild.

Quoting from my little popup pane:-

"Sometimes the folder index-file becomes damaged and messages may
appear missing, or deleted messages continue showing: repairing the
folder may fix these issues"

Might be worth a try? HTH. Barry.

Almost forgot: Your messages aren't touched by this action.
Rebuilding your index summary file for any folder, does not touch or
corrupt your actual messages.
You are only rebuilding the actual tracking index-file for the messages
that are actually in the (separate) message folder-file, which as the
popup says, often exposes messages that are there, but are unviewable
due to a corrupt index file entry. HTH.



Thank you.  Very informative. Also I went to the website. 
They say there can be a problem if too much 'space' is used 
in a folder - typically Inbox since it contains a lot
of stuff. They give info on how to solve the problem, but it 
still seems a little tricky. The info is given in Firefox 
terminology.  But they suggest deleting any garbage you can 
and then compacting folders since simply deleting emails 
does not really get rid of them till they are compacted out. 
 Should have done this before bothering people. By the way, 
in Seamonkey help there is no info at all on the Summary 
File.  Don't know why size is a problem

that can't be overcome.
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Re: Mail Inbox Truncation

2011-03-19 Thread Barry Edwin Gilmour

Paul T. Karch wrote:

Barry Edwin Gilmour wrote:

Barry Edwin Gilmour wrote:

Paul T. Karch wrote:

Barry Edwin Gilmour wrote:

Paul T. Karch wrote:

The last couple of days, when I have been downloading my email, I
sporadically get a popup window saying something to the effect 
that an
error has occurred in truncating Inbox.mbx(?) please delete this 
file.

I haven't deleted the file but after clicking the OK button the
download continues apparently without problems.

But I am wondering if I am losing any emails. One person told me he
sent me emails but I haven't received any since
Jan. 30th from him.

I have a LOT of emails saved in Inbox and subfolders of Inbox -
probably between 50k and 100k. And filters to route them.

I use Windows XP Pro and AVG scans for viruses.

Any insight/advice would be greatly appreciated. TIA.


I'll suggest repairing the folder via right-mouse-click on the
Inbox-folder, scrolling down and clicking on Properties, and
clicking on
the "Repair Folder" button, although I suspect you've already tried
repairing the folder.



On my version of Seamonkey, following the steps you suggest, there is
no button "Repair Folder" there is one labeled "Rebuild Summary File"
is that equivalent ?


That's the button. The summary file is the index to your Inbox folder
which gets sporadically confused, so needs a little rebuild.

Quoting from my little popup pane:-

"Sometimes the folder index-file becomes damaged and messages may
appear missing, or deleted messages continue showing: repairing the
folder may fix these issues"

Might be worth a try? HTH. Barry.

Almost forgot: Your messages aren't touched by this action.
Rebuilding your index summary file for any folder, does not touch or
corrupt your actual messages.
You are only rebuilding the actual tracking index-file for the messages
that are actually in the (separate) message folder-file, which as the
popup says, often exposes messages that are there, but are unviewable
due to a corrupt index file entry. HTH.



Thank you.  Very informative. Also I went to the website. They say 
there can be a problem if too much 'space' is used in a folder - 
typically Inbox since it contains a lot
of stuff. They give info on how to solve the problem, but it still 
seems a little tricky. The info is given in Firefox terminology.  But 
they suggest deleting any garbage you can and then compacting folders 
since simply deleting emails does not really get rid of them till they 
are compacted out.  Should have done this before bothering people. By 
the way, in Seamonkey help there is no info at all on the Summary 
File.  Don't know why size is a problem

that can't be overcome.


Compacting will remove any messages that aren't listed in the folder's 
index-file, e.g. the "lost" messages. It will "compact" the actual 
folder-file's messages, to make it agree with what is showing in the 
folder's summary index-file, that is, it removes the deleted messages 
etcetera.


Rebuilding or repairing your folder's index-files gives SeaMonkey the 
true list of what messages are within in the actual folder / folders, 
including the deleted but yet-uncompacted (undeleted) messages, plus 
of-course, any messages that have had their indexes corrupted, so in 
your case, I'd think you may want to rebuild your summary file first, 
before you compact the messages. Compacting is supposed to compact the 
entire messages folders, and although others are noting some sub-folders 
are not getting compacted, I can't say that I've ever seen the omission. 
HTH. Barry.

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Re: Mail Inbox Truncation

2011-03-19 Thread Barry Edwin Gilmour

Barry Edwin Gilmour wrote:

Paul T. Karch wrote:

Barry Edwin Gilmour wrote:

Barry Edwin Gilmour wrote:

Paul T. Karch wrote:

Barry Edwin Gilmour wrote:

Paul T. Karch wrote:

The last couple of days, when I have been downloading my email, I
sporadically get a popup window saying something to the effect 
that an
error has occurred in truncating Inbox.mbx(?) please delete this 
file.

I haven't deleted the file but after clicking the OK button the
download continues apparently without problems.

But I am wondering if I am losing any emails. One person told me he
sent me emails but I haven't received any since
Jan. 30th from him.

I have a LOT of emails saved in Inbox and subfolders of Inbox -
probably between 50k and 100k. And filters to route them.

I use Windows XP Pro and AVG scans for viruses.

Any insight/advice would be greatly appreciated. TIA.


I'll suggest repairing the folder via right-mouse-click on the
Inbox-folder, scrolling down and clicking on Properties, and
clicking on
the "Repair Folder" button, although I suspect you've already tried
repairing the folder.



On my version of Seamonkey, following the steps you suggest, there is
no button "Repair Folder" there is one labeled "Rebuild Summary File"
is that equivalent ?


That's the button. The summary file is the index to your Inbox folder
which gets sporadically confused, so needs a little rebuild.

Quoting from my little popup pane:-

"Sometimes the folder index-file becomes damaged and messages may
appear missing, or deleted messages continue showing: repairing the
folder may fix these issues"

Might be worth a try? HTH. Barry.

Almost forgot: Your messages aren't touched by this action.
Rebuilding your index summary file for any folder, does not touch or
corrupt your actual messages.
You are only rebuilding the actual tracking index-file for the messages
that are actually in the (separate) message folder-file, which as the
popup says, often exposes messages that are there, but are unviewable
due to a corrupt index file entry. HTH.



Thank you.  Very informative. Also I went to the website. They say 
there can be a problem if too much 'space' is used in a folder - 
typically Inbox since it contains a lot
of stuff. They give info on how to solve the problem, but it still 
seems a little tricky. The info is given in Firefox terminology.  But 
they suggest deleting any garbage you can and then compacting folders 
since simply deleting emails does not really get rid of them till 
they are compacted out.  Should have done this before bothering 
people. By the way, in Seamonkey help there is no info at all on the 
Summary File.  Don't know why size is a problem

that can't be overcome.


Compacting will remove any messages that aren't listed in the folder's 
index-file, e.g. the "lost" messages. It will "compact" the actual 
folder-file's messages, to make it agree with what is showing in the 
folder's summary index-file, that is, it removes the deleted messages 
etcetera.


Rebuilding or repairing your folder's index-files gives SeaMonkey the 
true list of what messages are within in the actual folder / folders, 
including the deleted but yet-uncompacted (undeleted) messages, plus 
of-course, any messages that have had their indexes corrupted, so in 
your case, I'd think you may want to rebuild your summary file first, 
before you compact the messages. Compacting is supposed to compact the 
entire messages folders, and although others are noting some 
sub-folders are not getting compacted, I can't say that I've ever seen 
the omission. HTH. Barry.
Also, compacting should be done automatically by the application, each 
time you close down the application. Barry.

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Re: Mail Inbox Truncation

2011-03-20 Thread Daniel

Barry Edwin Gilmour wrote:

Barry Edwin Gilmour wrote:

Paul T. Karch wrote:

Barry Edwin Gilmour wrote:

Barry Edwin Gilmour wrote:

Paul T. Karch wrote:

Barry Edwin Gilmour wrote:

Paul T. Karch wrote:





Also, compacting should be done automatically by the application, each
time you close down the application. Barry.


Sorry, Barry, are you suggesting that this *is* being done or that you 
think it *should* be done each shut down??


Daniel
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Re: Mail Inbox Truncation

2011-03-20 Thread Barry Edwin Gilmour

Daniel wrote:

Barry Edwin Gilmour wrote:

Barry Edwin Gilmour wrote:

Paul T. Karch wrote:

Barry Edwin Gilmour wrote:

Barry Edwin Gilmour wrote:

Paul T. Karch wrote:

Barry Edwin Gilmour wrote:

Paul T. Karch wrote:





Also, compacting should be done automatically by the application, each
time you close down the application. Barry.


Sorry, Barry, are you suggesting that this *is* being done or that you 
think it *should* be done each shut down??


Daniel


My bad!
It would sure help if a functional auto-compaction could be done each 
time SeaMonkey is opened or shutdown. It would mean one less button to 
have to use and explain.
It seems the Thunderbird folk have resorted to turning-off their 
auto-compaction, in order to bypass a raft of conflicts, so we may be 
better off without it.

Apologies. Barry.


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Re: Mail Inbox Truncation

2011-03-20 Thread Barry Edwin Gilmour

Barry Edwin Gilmour wrote:

Daniel wrote:

Barry Edwin Gilmour wrote:

Barry Edwin Gilmour wrote:

Paul T. Karch wrote:

Barry Edwin Gilmour wrote:

Barry Edwin Gilmour wrote:

Paul T. Karch wrote:

Barry Edwin Gilmour wrote:

Paul T. Karch wrote:





Also, compacting should be done automatically by the application, each
time you close down the application. Barry.


Sorry, Barry, are you suggesting that this *is* being done or that 
you think it *should* be done each shut down??


Daniel


My bad!
It would sure help if a functional auto-compaction could be done each 
time SeaMonkey is opened or shutdown. It would mean one less button to 
have to use and explain.
It seems the Thunderbird folk have resorted to turning-off their 
auto-compaction, in order to bypass a raft of conflicts, so we may be 
better off without it.

Apologies. Barry.


Daniel, In SM-2.1b3pre, we have auto-compaction via "Edit > Preferences 
> Mail & Newsgroups > Network & Storage > Disk Space > checkbox: 
Compact Folders when it will save over MB"
The "about:config" preference settings are listed under "mail.purge" 
HTH. Barry.

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Re: Mail Inbox Truncation

2011-03-23 Thread Daniel

Barry Edwin Gilmour wrote:

Barry Edwin Gilmour wrote:

Daniel wrote:

Barry Edwin Gilmour wrote:

Barry Edwin Gilmour wrote:

Paul T. Karch wrote:

Barry Edwin Gilmour wrote:

Barry Edwin Gilmour wrote:

Paul T. Karch wrote:

Barry Edwin Gilmour wrote:

Paul T. Karch wrote:





Also, compacting should be done automatically by the application, each
time you close down the application. Barry.


Sorry, Barry, are you suggesting that this *is* being done or that
you think it *should* be done each shut down??

Daniel


My bad!
It would sure help if a functional auto-compaction could be done each
time SeaMonkey is opened or shutdown. It would mean one less button to
have to use and explain.
It seems the Thunderbird folk have resorted to turning-off their
auto-compaction, in order to bypass a raft of conflicts, so we may be
better off without it.
Apologies. Barry.



Daniel, In SM-2.1b3pre, we have auto-compaction via "Edit > Preferences
 > Mail & Newsgroups > Network & Storage > Disk Space > checkbox:
Compact Folders when it will save over MB"
The "about:config" preference settings are listed under "mail.purge"
HTH. Barry.


Yes, Barry, that setting is also in SM 2.x, and I think it was in SM 1.x 
and, possibly, Moz Suite as well.


Daniel
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