Re: Mozilla is claiming Java outdated when it is the latest version
On 3/22/2014 5:57 PM, MCBastos wrote: Interviewed by CNN on 22/03/2014 22:50, Desiree told the world: Mozilla's check your plugins page is claiming that Java 7 update 51 is outdated. This is on my XP Pro machine using the latest version of SeaMonkey. Java 8 is out only at Oracle's download page (not on java.com for several more weeks). Further, Oracle is NOT supporting Java 8 on XP computers. So, why do I get an erroneous message? On Windows 8 Pro computer, I get the same erroneous message for SeaMonkey 2.25 (and for Fx 24.4 ESR). I upgraded on Windows 8 computer to Java 8 and had to use system restore to get back to Java 7 update 51. Java 8 does not work with my Java speedtests. The only reason I have Java installed is for speed tests. Java 7 is being supported for at least another year by Oracle for security patches so there is no reason at all for Mozilla to claim Java 7 update 51 is outdated on either version of Windows. It's curious, yes. I don't follow the security bulletins very closely, but it's entirely possible that a new security issue (affecting Java 7 update 51 inclusive) has come to light recently. If this has in fact happened, Mozilla is right in listing J7u51 as vulnerable. But where the page fail is in suggesting there is an update when Oracle has not released one yet. The problem is that the plugincheck page apparently has only two states for known plugins -- up to date and vulnerable. It does not have the ability to list a plugin as vulnerable, no update available, best remedy is to disable the plugin. Perhaps it should. I wonder why it lists several fairly common plugins, such as Google Update, Google Talk Video Renderer and Microsoft Office as unknown. One would think that by now someone would have figured who is supplying those. Perhaps those plugins simply don't offer a convenient way to check versions I noticed it lists WCX plugin as unknown and says it is a Chrome browser extension. That had me scratching my head for a bit as I don't have Chrome browser and what is a Chrome extension doing in my Fx plugins list? I had forgotten that when I recently updated my used for many years WordWeb program that the new version installed this Chrome extension seen in the Windows 8 registry as a Chrome browser extension (even though I don't have Chrome browser) but seen in Fx as an unknown plugin. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Mozilla is claiming Java outdated when it is the latest version
David E. Ross wrote: On 3/22/2014 6:50 PM, Desiree wrote: Mozilla's check your plugins page is claiming that Java 7 update 51 is outdated. This is on my XP Pro machine using the latest version of SeaMonkey. Java 8 is out only at Oracle's download page (not on java.com for several more weeks). Further, Oracle is NOT supporting Java 8 on XP computers. So, why do I get an erroneous message? On Windows 8 Pro computer, I get the same erroneous message for SeaMonkey 2.25 (and for Fx 24.4 ESR). I upgraded on Windows 8 computer to Java 8 and had to use system restore to get back to Java 7 update 51. Java 8 does not work with my Java speedtests. The only reason I have Java installed is for speed tests. Java 7 is being supported for at least another year by Oracle for security patches so there is no reason at all for Mozilla to claim Java 7 update 51 is outdated on either version of Windows. Windows 7 (x64) SeaMonkey 2.25 Java 7 u51 (properties 7.0.510.13) According to http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp, my Java is current and No out-of-date versions of Java were found. I'm running Win7 Pro SP1 x64 with 64-bit Java installed (java 7 u51) and SM 2.25, same thing. Tried installing the 32-bit Java of the same version, their install identifies the 64-bit already in place, asks for confirmation to overwrite the existing install. I said no. But SM still says I'm not up to date with Java. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Mozilla is claiming Java outdated when it is the latest version
Rickles rick-sharrem...@thismrasars.plus.com wrote: David E. Ross wrote: On 3/22/2014 6:50 PM, Desiree wrote: Mozilla's check your plugins page is claiming that Java 7 update 51 is outdated. This is on my XP Pro machine using the latest version of SeaMonkey. Java 8 is out only at Oracle's download page (not on java.com for several more weeks). Further, Oracle is NOT supporting Java 8 on XP computers. So, why do I get an erroneous message? On Windows 8 Pro computer, I get the same erroneous message for SeaMonkey 2.25 (and for Fx 24.4 ESR). I upgraded on Windows 8 computer to Java 8 and had to use system restore to get back to Java 7 update 51. Java 8 does not work with my Java speedtests. The only reason I have Java installed is for speed tests. Java 7 is being supported for at least another year by Oracle for security patches so there is no reason at all for Mozilla to claim Java 7 update 51 is outdated on either version of Windows. Windows 7 (x64) SeaMonkey 2.25 Java 7 u51 (properties 7.0.510.13) According to http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp, my Java is current and No out-of-date versions of Java were found. I'm running Win7 Pro SP1 x64 with 64-bit Java installed (java 7 u51) and SM 2.25, same thing. Tried installing the 32-bit Java of the same version, their install identifies the 64-bit already in place, asks for confirmation to overwrite the existing install. I said no. But SM still says I'm not up to date with Java. And when you install Java 8 ? Does that help? http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre8-downloads-2133155.html ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Mozilla is claiming Java outdated when it is the latest version
On 03/22/2014 09:50 PM, Desiree wrote: Mozilla's check your plugins page is claiming that Java 7 update 51 is outdated. This is on my XP Pro machine using the latest version of SeaMonkey. Java 8 is out only at Oracle's download page (not on java.com for several more weeks). Further, Oracle is NOT supporting Java 8 on XP computers. So, why do I get an erroneous message? On Windows 8 Pro computer, I get the same erroneous message for SeaMonkey 2.25 (and for Fx 24.4 ESR). I upgraded on Windows 8 computer to Java 8 and had to use system restore to get back to Java 7 update 51. Java 8 does not work with my Java speedtests. The only reason I have Java installed is for speed tests. Java 7 is being supported for at least another year by Oracle for security patches so there is no reason at all for Mozilla to claim Java 7 update 51 is outdated on either version of Windows. I never use Mozilla's plugin check. Did Java 7u51 stop working for you, or did you just decide to do a plugin check? It isn't on the block list so should continue to work. Last blocked versions are, October 16, 2013: Java Plugin 7 update 25 to 44 (click-to-play), Mac OS X, Windows and Linux [Blocked Add-ons :: Add-ons for Firefox](https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/blocked/) -- It is March Madness GO PITT! Pitt 77 Colorado 48 Pitt 45 Florida 61 ;( ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Mozilla is claiming Java outdated when it is the latest version
Rob wrote: Rickles rick-sharrem...@thismrasars.plus.com wrote: David E. Ross wrote: On 3/22/2014 6:50 PM, Desiree wrote: Mozilla's check your plugins page is claiming that Java 7 update 51 is outdated. This is on my XP Pro machine using the latest version of SeaMonkey. Java 8 is out only at Oracle's download page (not on java.com for several more weeks). Further, Oracle is NOT supporting Java 8 on XP computers. So, why do I get an erroneous message? On Windows 8 Pro computer, I get the same erroneous message for SeaMonkey 2.25 (and for Fx 24.4 ESR). I upgraded on Windows 8 computer to Java 8 and had to use system restore to get back to Java 7 update 51. Java 8 does not work with my Java speedtests. The only reason I have Java installed is for speed tests. Java 7 is being supported for at least another year by Oracle for security patches so there is no reason at all for Mozilla to claim Java 7 update 51 is outdated on either version of Windows. Windows 7 (x64) SeaMonkey 2.25 Java 7 u51 (properties 7.0.510.13) According to http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp, my Java is current and No out-of-date versions of Java were found. I'm running Win7 Pro SP1 x64 with 64-bit Java installed (java 7 u51) and SM 2.25, same thing. Tried installing the 32-bit Java of the same version, their install identifies the 64-bit already in place, asks for confirmation to overwrite the existing install. I said no. But SM still says I'm not up to date with Java. And when you install Java 8 ? Does that help? http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre8-downloads-2133155.html No I hadn't, since the Java site didn't say anything about a major version change. Not sure that's such a good idea due to 1 site the wife uses daily with heavy Java--updates have broken the games on more than one occasion. May try it later. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Mozilla is claiming Java outdated when it is the latest version
On 03/22/2014 09:50 PM, Desiree wrote: Mozilla's check your plugins page is claiming that Java 7 update 51 is outdated. This is on my XP Pro machine using the latest version of SeaMonkey. Java 8 is out only at Oracle's download page (not on java.com for several more weeks). Further, Oracle is NOT supporting Java 8 on XP computers. So, why do I get an erroneous message? On Windows 8 Pro computer, I get the same erroneous message for SeaMonkey 2.25 (and for Fx 24.4 ESR). I upgraded on Windows 8 computer to Java 8 and had to use system restore to get back to Java 7 update 51. Java 8 does not work with my Java speedtests. The only reason I have Java installed is for speed tests. Java 7 is being supported for at least another year by Oracle for security patches so there is no reason at all for Mozilla to claim Java 7 update 51 is outdated on either version of Windows. Bug filed. [985968 – Mozilla Plugin check page displays Java plugin as vulnerable even if the latest version is installed.](https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=985968) -- It is March Madness GO PITT! Pitt 77 Colorado 48 Pitt 45 Florida 61 ;( ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Mozilla is claiming Java outdated when it is the latest version
On 3/23/2014 6:13 AM, Rob wrote: Rickles rick-sharrem...@thismrasars.plus.com wrote: David E. Ross wrote: On 3/22/2014 6:50 PM, Desiree wrote: Mozilla's check your plugins page is claiming that Java 7 update 51 is outdated. This is on my XP Pro machine using the latest version of SeaMonkey. Java 8 is out only at Oracle's download page (not on java.com for several more weeks). Further, Oracle is NOT supporting Java 8 on XP computers. So, why do I get an erroneous message? On Windows 8 Pro computer, I get the same erroneous message for SeaMonkey 2.25 (and for Fx 24.4 ESR). I upgraded on Windows 8 computer to Java 8 and had to use system restore to get back to Java 7 update 51. Java 8 does not work with my Java speedtests. The only reason I have Java installed is for speed tests. Java 7 is being supported for at least another year by Oracle for security patches so there is no reason at all for Mozilla to claim Java 7 update 51 is outdated on either version of Windows. Windows 7 (x64) SeaMonkey 2.25 Java 7 u51 (properties 7.0.510.13) According to http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp, my Java is current and No out-of-date versions of Java were found. I'm running Win7 Pro SP1 x64 with 64-bit Java installed (java 7 u51) and SM 2.25, same thing. Tried installing the 32-bit Java of the same version, their install identifies the 64-bit already in place, asks for confirmation to overwrite the existing install. I said no. But SM still says I'm not up to date with Java. And when you install Java 8 ? Does that help? http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jre8-downloads-2133155.html I'm not sure I want Java 8. I put two Web sites in Java's whitelist. With Java 7, however, I nevertheless have the annoyance that those Web sites still require manual OKs to run unsigned Java applications. Supposedly, those applications will be blocked with Java 8 without any option to run the applications. These are two Web sites that are apparently no longer being updated, both of which have unsigned Java applications. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/ On occasion, I filter and ignore all newsgroup messages posted through GoogleGroups via Google's G2/1.0 user agent because of spam, flames, and trolling from that source. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Mozilla is claiming Java outdated when it is the latest version
WaltS wrote: Bug filed. [985968 – Mozilla Plugin check page displays Java plugin as vulnerable even if the latest version is installed.](https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=985968) Thanks, Walt. I noticed this too. -- Jaime A. Cruz Nassau Wings Motorcycle Club http://www.nassauwings.org/ AMA District 34 http://www.AMADistrict34.com/ Pop's Run http://www.popsrun.org/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Mozilla is claiming Java outdated when it is the latest version
On 3/23/2014 3:22 AM, WaltS wrote: On 03/22/2014 09:50 PM, Desiree wrote: Mozilla's check your plugins page is claiming that Java 7 update 51 is outdated. This is on my XP Pro machine using the latest version of SeaMonkey. Java 8 is out only at Oracle's download page (not on java.com for several more weeks). Further, Oracle is NOT supporting Java 8 on XP computers. So, why do I get an erroneous message? On Windows 8 Pro computer, I get the same erroneous message for SeaMonkey 2.25 (and for Fx 24.4 ESR). I upgraded on Windows 8 computer to Java 8 and had to use system restore to get back to Java 7 update 51. Java 8 does not work with my Java speedtests. The only reason I have Java installed is for speed tests. Java 7 is being supported for at least another year by Oracle for security patches so there is no reason at all for Mozilla to claim Java 7 update 51 is outdated on either version of Windows. I never use Mozilla's plugin check. Did Java 7u51 stop working for you, or did you just decide to do a plugin check? I read a thread in the Mozilla forum at dslreports.com where the OP stated that he had used Mozilla's plugin check for his Firefox 27 and he was puzzled because it said his Java 7 update 51 was outdated. He was told by others that Java 8 was available and so that must be why Mozilla was reporting his version as outdated. I was puzzled because Tools/addons/plugins isn't blocking the version I have so I clicked on check for updates and there was Mozilla saying I have outdated Java just like the OP was told. It isn't on the block list so should continue to work. Last blocked versions are, October 16, 2013: Java Plugin 7 update 25 to 44 (click-to-play), Mac OS X, Windows and Linux [Blocked Add-ons :: Add-ons for Firefox](https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/blocked/) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Mozilla is claiming Java outdated when it is the latest version
On 3/23/2014 4:46 AM, WaltS wrote: On 03/22/2014 09:50 PM, Desiree wrote: Mozilla's check your plugins page is claiming that Java 7 update 51 is outdated. This is on my XP Pro machine using the latest version of SeaMonkey. Java 8 is out only at Oracle's download page (not on java.com for several more weeks). Further, Oracle is NOT supporting Java 8 on XP computers. So, why do I get an erroneous message? On Windows 8 Pro computer, I get the same erroneous message for SeaMonkey 2.25 (and for Fx 24.4 ESR). I upgraded on Windows 8 computer to Java 8 and had to use system restore to get back to Java 7 update 51. Java 8 does not work with my Java speedtests. The only reason I have Java installed is for speed tests. Java 7 is being supported for at least another year by Oracle for security patches so there is no reason at all for Mozilla to claim Java 7 update 51 is outdated on either version of Windows. Bug filed. [985968 – Mozilla Plugin check page displays Java plugin as vulnerable even if the latest version is installed.](https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=985968) Thank you! Interesting comments there. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Mozilla is claiming Java outdated when it is the latest version
Interviewed by CNN on 22/03/2014 22:50, Desiree told the world: Mozilla's check your plugins page is claiming that Java 7 update 51 is outdated. This is on my XP Pro machine using the latest version of SeaMonkey. Java 8 is out only at Oracle's download page (not on java.com for several more weeks). Further, Oracle is NOT supporting Java 8 on XP computers. So, why do I get an erroneous message? On Windows 8 Pro computer, I get the same erroneous message for SeaMonkey 2.25 (and for Fx 24.4 ESR). I upgraded on Windows 8 computer to Java 8 and had to use system restore to get back to Java 7 update 51. Java 8 does not work with my Java speedtests. The only reason I have Java installed is for speed tests. Java 7 is being supported for at least another year by Oracle for security patches so there is no reason at all for Mozilla to claim Java 7 update 51 is outdated on either version of Windows. It's curious, yes. I don't follow the security bulletins very closely, but it's entirely possible that a new security issue (affecting Java 7 update 51 inclusive) has come to light recently. If this has in fact happened, Mozilla is right in listing J7u51 as vulnerable. But where the page fail is in suggesting there is an update when Oracle has not released one yet. The problem is that the plugincheck page apparently has only two states for known plugins -- up to date and vulnerable. It does not have the ability to list a plugin as vulnerable, no update available, best remedy is to disable the plugin. Perhaps it should. I wonder why it lists several fairly common plugins, such as Google Update, Google Talk Video Renderer and Microsoft Office as unknown. One would think that by now someone would have figured who is supplying those. Perhaps those plugins simply don't offer a convenient way to check versions -- MCBastos This message has been protected with the 2ROT13 algorithm. Unauthorized use will be prosecuted under the DMCA. -=-=- ... Sent from my DEC PDP-11. * Added by TagZilla 0.7a1 running on Seamonkey 2.25 * Get it at http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/modifiedmailnews.html#tagzilla ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Mozilla is claiming Java outdated when it is the latest version
On 3/22/2014 6:50 PM, Desiree wrote: Mozilla's check your plugins page is claiming that Java 7 update 51 is outdated. This is on my XP Pro machine using the latest version of SeaMonkey. Java 8 is out only at Oracle's download page (not on java.com for several more weeks). Further, Oracle is NOT supporting Java 8 on XP computers. So, why do I get an erroneous message? On Windows 8 Pro computer, I get the same erroneous message for SeaMonkey 2.25 (and for Fx 24.4 ESR). I upgraded on Windows 8 computer to Java 8 and had to use system restore to get back to Java 7 update 51. Java 8 does not work with my Java speedtests. The only reason I have Java installed is for speed tests. Java 7 is being supported for at least another year by Oracle for security patches so there is no reason at all for Mozilla to claim Java 7 update 51 is outdated on either version of Windows. Windows 7 (x64) SeaMonkey 2.25 Java 7 u51 (properties 7.0.510.13) According to http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp, my Java is current and No out-of-date versions of Java were found. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/ On occasion, I filter and ignore all newsgroup messages posted through GoogleGroups via Google's G2/1.0 user agent because of spam, flames, and trolling from that source. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
