Re: Newer Flash player plugins go berserk/crazy/bonker in SeaMonkey v2.1x.x in an old 32-bit Windows XP Pro. SP3 box.

2013-05-02 Thread Ant
http://pastie.org/private/isfygineq4b4admniwh4tg if it helps to find 
clues from Process Explorer v15.30.0.0 to debug. :)



On 4/27/2013 7:29 PM PT, Ant typed:


Has anyone had Flash videos go blank and act weird as shown in
http://i.imgur.com/GugQV05.gif as an example? I have to either exit/quit
SeaMonkey or kill Flash's plugin-container.exe process. I did not have
this problems with older Flash versions like v11.5 or earlier. It
started recently with v11.6 and v11.7 IIRC. It seems to happen a lot
lately. I tried clearing caches, but that doesn't seem to help.

I keep my SeaMonkey, Windows, and Flash player plugins/addon updated. I
never see this problem on my office machine with 64-bit W7 EE SP1 and
similiar softwares installed.
http://pastie.org/private/biufyftsz7kofbu1kk6q for my Process Explorer
v15.3 dump of Flash's plugin-container.exe going wacky.

Thank you in advance. :)

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Re: Newer Flash player plugins go berserk/crazy/bonker in SeaMonkey v2.1x.x in an old 32-bit Windows XP Pro. SP3 box.

2013-05-01 Thread Ant

On 4/30/2013 6:18 AM PT, MCBastos typed:


You know what's weird? I never have crashes in 64-bit W7 SP1, but do in
XP Pro. SP3. :(


Not that weird. XP is in terminal life-support as it is, with the plug
scheduled to be pulled April 2014. Microsoft simply does not bother to
fix anything that is not a security issue or a really big showstopper
nowadays. And in one year's time, not even that.


Why would MS care about Adobe? Adobe still supports Windows XP SP3.



If the new edition of the Flash plugin touches something in Windows that
is revealed to be not as robust as it should be... well, tough luck for
XP users. From Steve Ballmer's POV, they should be forking money to buy
Windows 8 anyway, so anything that makes XP more annoying to use is not
really a problem for him.


Wouldn't this be Adobe's fault since older Flash didn't have these 
issues in XP SP3?

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Re: Newer Flash player plugins go berserk/crazy/bonker in SeaMonkey v2.1x.x in an old 32-bit Windows XP Pro. SP3 box.

2013-04-30 Thread Ant

On 4/29/2013 9:10 AM PT, Ken Rudolph typed:


Has anyone had Flash videos go blank and act weird as shown in
http://i.imgur.com/GugQV05.gif as an example? I have to either exit/quit
SeaMonkey or kill Flash's plugin-container.exe process. I did not have
this problems with older Flash versions like v11.5 or earlier. It
started recently with v11.6 and v11.7 IIRC. It seems to happen a lot
lately. I tried clearing caches, but that doesn't seem to help.

I keep my SeaMonkey, Windows, and Flash player plugins/addon updated. I
never see this problem on my office machine with 64-bit W7 EE SP1 and
similiar softwares installed.
http://pastie.org/private/biufyftsz7kofbu1kk6q for my Process Explorer
v15.3 dump of Flash's plugin-container.exe going wacky.


I'm troubled by frequent Flash crashes with the latest version (W7+, SM
2.17.1, Shockwave Flash 11.7.700.169).  I suppose I have to go to a
previous version since this has only started with the most recent
update.  Any suggestions where to find a version that doesn't crash and
which is the best one to use for Seamonkey?


You know what's weird? I never have crashes in 64-bit W7 SP1, but do in 
XP Pro. SP3. :(

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Re: Newer Flash player plugins go berserk/crazy/bonker in SeaMonkey v2.1x.x in an old 32-bit Windows XP Pro. SP3 box.

2013-04-30 Thread MCBastos
Interviewed by CNN on 30/04/2013 05:48, Ant told the world:

 You know what's weird? I never have crashes in 64-bit W7 SP1, but do in 
 XP Pro. SP3. :(
 

Not that weird. XP is in terminal life-support as it is, with the plug
scheduled to be pulled April 2014. Microsoft simply does not bother to
fix anything that is not a security issue or a really big showstopper
nowadays. And in one year's time, not even that.

If the new edition of the Flash plugin touches something in Windows that
is revealed to be not as robust as it should be... well, tough luck for
XP users. From Steve Ballmer's POV, they should be forking money to buy
Windows 8 anyway, so anything that makes XP more annoying to use is not
really a problem for him.

There's this meme going around that XP is somehow perfect as it is.
Sorry to say, but it's simply not true. XP has numerous issues, some of
them entrenched very deep in its basic architecture. I'm working on
phasing it out from my customers, and good riddance -- every time I
upgrade a machine from XP to Win7 (in the same hardware, mind you)
support issues go down. If a machine is not good enough to run Win7, it
is too old to keep in service anyway. (My rule of the thumb is 1 Gb
RAM, dual-core CPU and 80 Gb HD -- but I have obtained surprisingly
good results even with half those specs)

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Re: Newer Flash player plugins go berserk/crazy/bonker in SeaMonkey v2.1x.x in an old 32-bit Windows XP Pro. SP3 box.

2013-04-29 Thread David E. Ross
On 4/28/13 9:18 PM, Ant wrote:
 On 4/28/2013 8:27 AM PT, David E. Ross typed:
 
 Has anyone had Flash videos go blank and act weird as shown in
 http://i.imgur.com/GugQV05.gif as an example? I have to either exit/quit
 SeaMonkey or kill Flash's plugin-container.exe process. I did not have
 this problems with older Flash versions like v11.5 or earlier. It
 started recently with v11.6 and v11.7 IIRC. It seems to happen a lot
 lately. I tried clearing caches, but that doesn't seem to help.

 I keep my SeaMonkey, Windows, and Flash player plugins/addon updated. I
 never see this problem on my office machine with 64-bit W7 EE SP1 and
 similiar softwares installed.
 http://pastie.org/private/biufyftsz7kofbu1kk6q for my Process Explorer
 v15.3 dump of Flash's plugin-container.exe going wacky.

 Windows XP SP3
 Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:20.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.17.1
 Flash 11.7.700.169 (11.7 r700(169))

 I do not have this problem viewing
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6I_BLpjtaI.
 
 Did you have many tabs opened (e.g., 65+)? I wonder if the problems come 
 up when I have to many tabs going. :/
 

65??  Why??  I rarely have as many as 10.

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Re: Newer Flash player plugins go berserk/crazy/bonker in SeaMonkey v2.1x.x in an old 32-bit Windows XP Pro. SP3 box.

2013-04-29 Thread Ken Rudolph

Ant wrote:

Hello.

Has anyone had Flash videos go blank and act weird as shown in
http://i.imgur.com/GugQV05.gif as an example? I have to either exit/quit
SeaMonkey or kill Flash's plugin-container.exe process. I did not have
this problems with older Flash versions like v11.5 or earlier. It
started recently with v11.6 and v11.7 IIRC. It seems to happen a lot
lately. I tried clearing caches, but that doesn't seem to help.

I keep my SeaMonkey, Windows, and Flash player plugins/addon updated. I
never see this problem on my office machine with 64-bit W7 EE SP1 and
similiar softwares installed.
http://pastie.org/private/biufyftsz7kofbu1kk6q for my Process Explorer
v15.3 dump of Flash's plugin-container.exe going wacky.

Thank you in advance. :)


I'm troubled by frequent Flash crashes with the latest version (W7+, SM 
2.17.1, Shockwave Flash 11.7.700.169).  I suppose I have to go to a 
previous version since this has only started with the most recent 
update.  Any suggestions where to find a version that doesn't crash and 
which is the best one to use for Seamonkey?


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Re: Newer Flash player plugins go berserk/crazy/bonker in SeaMonkey v2.1x.x in an old 32-bit Windows XP Pro. SP3 box.

2013-04-29 Thread Ken Rudolph

Ken Rudolph wrote:

Ant wrote:

Hello.

Has anyone had Flash videos go blank and act weird as shown in
http://i.imgur.com/GugQV05.gif as an example? I have to either exit/quit
SeaMonkey or kill Flash's plugin-container.exe process. I did not have
this problems with older Flash versions like v11.5 or earlier. It
started recently with v11.6 and v11.7 IIRC. It seems to happen a lot
lately. I tried clearing caches, but that doesn't seem to help.

I keep my SeaMonkey, Windows, and Flash player plugins/addon updated. I
never see this problem on my office machine with 64-bit W7 EE SP1 and
similiar softwares installed.
http://pastie.org/private/biufyftsz7kofbu1kk6q for my Process Explorer
v15.3 dump of Flash's plugin-container.exe going wacky.

Thank you in advance. :)


I'm troubled by frequent Flash crashes with the latest version (W7+, SM
2.17.1, Shockwave Flash 11.7.700.169).  I suppose I have to go to a
previous version since this has only started with the most recent
update.  Any suggestions where to find a version that doesn't crash and
which is the best one to use for Seamonkey?

OK, I seem to have figured it out myself, installing version 
11.6.602.180 from the Adobe site.  I know it is an unsupported older 
version; but at least Flash has stopped crashing every time I open a 
window with a Flash video.


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Re: Newer Flash player plugins go berserk/crazy/bonker in SeaMonkey v2.1x.x in an old 32-bit Windows XP Pro. SP3 box.

2013-04-29 Thread Roger Fink



 Original Message 

Ken Rudolph wrote:

Ant wrote:

Hello.

Has anyone had Flash videos go blank and act weird as shown in
http://i.imgur.com/GugQV05.gif as an example? I have to either exit/quit
SeaMonkey or kill Flash's plugin-container.exe process. I did not have
this problems with older Flash versions like v11.5 or earlier. It
started recently with v11.6 and v11.7 IIRC. It seems to happen a lot
lately. I tried clearing caches, but that doesn't seem to help.

I keep my SeaMonkey, Windows, and Flash player plugins/addon updated. I
never see this problem on my office machine with 64-bit W7 EE SP1 and
similiar softwares installed.
http://pastie.org/private/biufyftsz7kofbu1kk6q for my Process Explorer
v15.3 dump of Flash's plugin-container.exe going wacky.

Thank you in advance. :)

I'm troubled by frequent Flash crashes with the latest version (W7+, SM
2.17.1, Shockwave Flash 11.7.700.169).  I suppose I have to go to a
previous version since this has only started with the most recent
update.  Any suggestions where to find a version that doesn't crash and
which is the best one to use for Seamonkey?


OK, I seem to have figured it out myself, installing version
11.6.602.180 from the Adobe site.  I know it is an unsupported older
version; but at least Flash has stopped crashing every time I open a
window with a Flash video.
In terms of overall vulnerability, I think you'd be better off with the 
latest flash and the most recent version of SeaMonkey that will support it.



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Re: Newer Flash player plugins go berserk/crazy/bonker in SeaMonkey v2.1x.x in an old 32-bit Windows XP Pro. SP3 box.

2013-04-28 Thread David E. Ross
On 4/27/13 7:29 PM, Ant wrote:
 Hello.
 
 Has anyone had Flash videos go blank and act weird as shown in 
 http://i.imgur.com/GugQV05.gif as an example? I have to either exit/quit 
 SeaMonkey or kill Flash's plugin-container.exe process. I did not have 
 this problems with older Flash versions like v11.5 or earlier. It 
 started recently with v11.6 and v11.7 IIRC. It seems to happen a lot 
 lately. I tried clearing caches, but that doesn't seem to help.
 
 I keep my SeaMonkey, Windows, and Flash player plugins/addon updated. I 
 never see this problem on my office machine with 64-bit W7 EE SP1 and 
 similiar softwares installed. 
 http://pastie.org/private/biufyftsz7kofbu1kk6q for my Process Explorer 
 v15.3 dump of Flash's plugin-container.exe going wacky.
 
 Thank you in advance. :)
 

Windows XP SP3
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:20.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.17.1
Flash 11.7.700.169 (11.7 r700(169))

I do not have this problem viewing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6I_BLpjtaI.

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Re: Newer Flash player plugins go berserk/crazy/bonker in SeaMonkey v2.1x.x in an old 32-bit Windows XP Pro. SP3 box.

2013-04-28 Thread Ant

On 4/28/2013 8:27 AM PT, David E. Ross typed:


Has anyone had Flash videos go blank and act weird as shown in
http://i.imgur.com/GugQV05.gif as an example? I have to either exit/quit
SeaMonkey or kill Flash's plugin-container.exe process. I did not have
this problems with older Flash versions like v11.5 or earlier. It
started recently with v11.6 and v11.7 IIRC. It seems to happen a lot
lately. I tried clearing caches, but that doesn't seem to help.

I keep my SeaMonkey, Windows, and Flash player plugins/addon updated. I
never see this problem on my office machine with 64-bit W7 EE SP1 and
similiar softwares installed.
http://pastie.org/private/biufyftsz7kofbu1kk6q for my Process Explorer
v15.3 dump of Flash's plugin-container.exe going wacky.


Windows XP SP3
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:20.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.17.1
Flash 11.7.700.169 (11.7 r700(169))

I do not have this problem viewing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6I_BLpjtaI.


Did you have many tabs opened (e.g., 65+)? I wonder if the problems come 
up when I have to many tabs going. :/

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