Re: SM 2.0.8 on XP consuming CPU after exit?

2010-09-29 Thread Bill Davidsen

Rick Merrill wrote:

denewton wrote:

Ed Mullen a écrit :

denewton wrote:

u...@domain.invalid a écrit :

Running SeaMonkey 2.0.8 under Windows XP SP3 (long time SM user).
When I exit SeaMonkey by closing all the windows or using the Exit
menu item), the Seamonkey process continues to run invisibly and
consumes about 1/2 of the CPU to no worthwhile effect that I can see.
I terminate this errant process with Task Manager.

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Hello
When seamonkey is running, I have seamonkey.exe in the task running.
And
when I close Seamonkey, the tash disappear. What's the name of the
task ?
Bertrand


I am not clear what you are asking.

Yes, when SeaMonkey is running you will see seamonkey.exe in
taskmanager.

When you close SeaMonkey the task will disappear from taskmanager.

What is it you want to know?


Hello
u...@domain.invalid said that the seamonkey process continue after
closing. It seams that Seamonkey is back running. But this option was
with seamonkey 1.x and non with seamonkey 2.x
Bertrand


In 2.0 is it not likely that SM is just emptying the trash and possibly
Compacting Folders?

At some point I don't care what it is doing, it can't have half a CPU for hours 
to do it. But this hang seems to be a Windows thing, doesn't happen much if at 
all with recent Linux 32 bit version.


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Re: SM 2.0.8 on XP consuming CPU after exit?

2010-09-29 Thread d...@kd4e.com

Bill Davidsen wrote: At some point I don't care what it is doing, it
can't have half a CPU for hours to do it. But this hang seems to be a
Windows thing, doesn't happen much if at all with recent Linux 32 bit
version.


Hours to clean-up?  That sounds silly.  Seconds, minutes, maybe.

More than one person has reported what seems like a memory leak in
the Linux version as well.

It is unclear yet whether it is SM, Flash, or some other plug-in or
associated app but there are odd lags and other problems that seem to
go away when one reboots.

Are these reports being documented and studied in a bug report?

Perhaps it is certain video drivers and not SM at all.

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Re: SM 2.0.8 on XP consuming CPU after exit?

2010-09-27 Thread denewton

Ed Mullen a écrit :

denewton wrote:

u...@domain.invalid a écrit :

Running SeaMonkey 2.0.8 under Windows XP SP3 (long time SM user).
When I exit SeaMonkey by closing all the windows or using the Exit
menu item), the Seamonkey process continues to run invisibly and
consumes about 1/2 of the CPU to no worthwhile effect that I can see.
I terminate this errant process with Task Manager.

= Dr. Frank J. Nagy [Applied Scientist]
= Fermilab Computing Division/Central Services and Infrastructure
= Authentication, Directory and Messaging Services
= n...@fnal.gov (Alt: f.n...@sbcglobal.net)
= Web page: http://home.fnal.gov/~nagy/
= Feynman Computing FCC394 630-840-4935 FAX 840-6345
= USnail: Fermilab POB 500 MS/369 Batavia, IL 60510
= ICBM: 40d 51m 34s N, 88d 12d 29d W, 651 ft ASL
+ This seat. It warms your ass. Wonderful. -- Dr. Bishop

Hello
When seamonkey is running, I have seamonkey.exe in the task running. And
when I close Seamonkey, the tash disappear. What's the name of the task ?
Bertrand


I am not clear what you are asking.

Yes, when SeaMonkey is running you will see seamonkey.exe in taskmanager.

When you close SeaMonkey the task will disappear from taskmanager.

What is it you want to know?


Hello
u...@domain.invalid said that the seamonkey process continue after 
closing. It seams that Seamonkey is back running. But this option was 
with seamonkey 1.x and non with seamonkey 2.x

Bertrand
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Re: SM 2.0.8 on XP consuming CPU after exit?

2010-09-27 Thread Rick Merrill

denewton wrote:

Ed Mullen a écrit :

denewton wrote:

u...@domain.invalid a écrit :

Running SeaMonkey 2.0.8 under Windows XP SP3 (long time SM user).
When I exit SeaMonkey by closing all the windows or using the Exit
menu item), the Seamonkey process continues to run invisibly and
consumes about 1/2 of the CPU to no worthwhile effect that I can see.
I terminate this errant process with Task Manager.

= Dr. Frank J. Nagy [Applied Scientist]
= Fermilab Computing Division/Central Services and Infrastructure
= Authentication, Directory and Messaging Services
= n...@fnal.gov (Alt: f.n...@sbcglobal.net)
= Web page: http://home.fnal.gov/~nagy/
= Feynman Computing FCC394 630-840-4935 FAX 840-6345
= USnail: Fermilab POB 500 MS/369 Batavia, IL 60510
= ICBM: 40d 51m 34s N, 88d 12d 29d W, 651 ft ASL
+ This seat. It warms your ass. Wonderful. -- Dr. Bishop

Hello
When seamonkey is running, I have seamonkey.exe in the task running. And
when I close Seamonkey, the tash disappear. What's the name of the
task ?
Bertrand


I am not clear what you are asking.

Yes, when SeaMonkey is running you will see seamonkey.exe in taskmanager.

When you close SeaMonkey the task will disappear from taskmanager.

What is it you want to know?


Hello
u...@domain.invalid said that the seamonkey process continue after
closing. It seams that Seamonkey is back running. But this option was
with seamonkey 1.x and non with seamonkey 2.x
Bertrand


In 2.0 is it not likely that SM is just emptying the trash and possibly
Compacting Folders?


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Re: SM 2.0.8 on XP consuming CPU after exit?

2010-09-27 Thread Lee
On 9/27/10, Rick Merrill rick0.merr...@gmail.nospam.com wrote:
 denewton wrote:
 Ed Mullen a écrit :
 denewton wrote:
 u...@domain.invalid a écrit :
 Running SeaMonkey 2.0.8 under Windows XP SP3 (long time SM user).
 When I exit SeaMonkey by closing all the windows or using the Exit
 menu item), the Seamonkey process continues to run invisibly and
 consumes about 1/2 of the CPU to no worthwhile effect that I can see.
 I terminate this errant process with Task Manager.

 = Dr. Frank J. Nagy [Applied Scientist]
 = Fermilab Computing Division/Central Services and Infrastructure
 = Authentication, Directory and Messaging Services
 = n...@fnal.gov (Alt: f.n...@sbcglobal.net)
 = Web page: http://home.fnal.gov/~nagy/
 = Feynman Computing FCC394 630-840-4935 FAX 840-6345
 = USnail: Fermilab POB 500 MS/369 Batavia, IL 60510
 = ICBM: 40d 51m 34s N, 88d 12d 29d W, 651 ft ASL
 + This seat. It warms your ass. Wonderful. -- Dr. Bishop
 Hello
 When seamonkey is running, I have seamonkey.exe in the task running. And
 when I close Seamonkey, the tash disappear. What's the name of the
 task ?
 Bertrand

 I am not clear what you are asking.

 Yes, when SeaMonkey is running you will see seamonkey.exe in taskmanager.

 When you close SeaMonkey the task will disappear from taskmanager.

 What is it you want to know?

 Hello
 u...@domain.invalid said that the seamonkey process continue after
 closing. It seams that Seamonkey is back running. But this option was
 with seamonkey 1.x and non with seamonkey 2.x
 Bertrand

 In 2.0 is it not likely that SM is just emptying the trash and possibly
 Compacting Folders?

Or doing the 'always clear private data when SM closes' thing :)

Lee
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Re: SM 2.0.8 on XP consuming CPU after exit?

2010-09-26 Thread denewton

u...@domain.invalid a écrit :

Running SeaMonkey 2.0.8 under Windows XP SP3 (long time SM user).
When I exit SeaMonkey by closing all the windows or using the Exit
menu item), the Seamonkey process continues to run invisibly and
consumes about 1/2 of the CPU to no worthwhile effect that I can see.
I terminate this errant process with Task Manager.

= Dr. Frank J. Nagy [Applied Scientist]
= Fermilab Computing Division/Central Services and Infrastructure
= Authentication, Directory and Messaging Services
= n...@fnal.gov (Alt: f.n...@sbcglobal.net)
= Web page: http://home.fnal.gov/~nagy/
= Feynman Computing FCC394 630-840-4935 FAX 840-6345
= USnail: Fermilab POB 500 MS/369 Batavia, IL 60510
= ICBM: 40d 51m 34s N, 88d 12d 29d W, 651 ft ASL
+ This seat. It warms your ass. Wonderful. -- Dr. Bishop

Hello
When seamonkey is running, I have seamonkey.exe in the task running. And 
when I close Seamonkey, the tash disappear. What's the name of the task ?

Bertrand
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Re: SM 2.0.8 on XP consuming CPU after exit?

2010-09-26 Thread Ed Mullen

denewton wrote:

u...@domain.invalid a écrit :

Running SeaMonkey 2.0.8 under Windows XP SP3 (long time SM user).
When I exit SeaMonkey by closing all the windows or using the Exit
menu item), the Seamonkey process continues to run invisibly and
consumes about 1/2 of the CPU to no worthwhile effect that I can see.
I terminate this errant process with Task Manager.

= Dr. Frank J. Nagy [Applied Scientist]
= Fermilab Computing Division/Central Services and Infrastructure
= Authentication, Directory and Messaging Services
= n...@fnal.gov (Alt: f.n...@sbcglobal.net)
= Web page: http://home.fnal.gov/~nagy/
= Feynman Computing FCC394 630-840-4935 FAX 840-6345
= USnail: Fermilab POB 500 MS/369 Batavia, IL 60510
= ICBM: 40d 51m 34s N, 88d 12d 29d W, 651 ft ASL
+ This seat. It warms your ass. Wonderful. -- Dr. Bishop

Hello
When seamonkey is running, I have seamonkey.exe in the task running. And
when I close Seamonkey, the tash disappear. What's the name of the task ?
Bertrand


I am not clear what you are asking.

Yes, when SeaMonkey is running you will see seamonkey.exe in taskmanager.

When you close SeaMonkey the task will disappear from taskmanager.

What is it you want to know?

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Re: SM 2.0.8 on XP consuming CPU after exit?

2010-09-24 Thread Rick Merrill

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Leonidas Jones wrote:


u...@domain.invalid wrote:

Running SeaMonkey 2.0.8 under Windows XP SP3 (long time SM user).
When I exit SeaMonkey by closing all the windows or using the Exit
menu item), the Seamonkey process continues to run invisibly and
consumes about 1/2 of the CPU to no worthwhile effect that I can see.
I terminate this errant process with Task Manager.


It's probably not a good idea to do that.

When SeaMonkey closes down, it writes changes to it's configuration
files, such as prefs.js and others. By aborting this early, you are not
allowing it to complete these cleanup tasks.


I have a similar experience (SM sometimes fails to terminate properly),
and I have sometimes waited 10 minutes or more while it does nothing
(consumes 0% of my CPU) before forcing it to close. The program has
always run fine afterward. I have never seen it terminate on its own
once it reaches this state.

By this state I mean:
• program is visible only in Task Manager;
• program is consuming 0% of CPU and has been for at least two minutes.

I have not yet identified any user actions that can reliably cause this
fault, and I've been looking since I first noticed it in Mozilla 1.7.



I've seen that happen and I attribute it to empty trash on exit - that's at 
least a possiblity.

This running on can also interfere with re-launching SeaMonkey, BUT they have
now fixed it so that instead of creating multiple copies of SM it waits.


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Re: SM 2.0.8 on XP consuming CPU after exit?

2010-09-24 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

Rick Merrill wrote:


Paul B. Gallagher wrote:


Leonidas Jones wrote:


u...@domain.invalid wrote:


Running SeaMonkey 2.0.8 under Windows XP SP3 (long time SM
user). When I exit SeaMonkey by closing all the windows or
using the Exit menu item), the Seamonkey process continues to
run invisibly and consumes about 1/2 of the CPU to no
worthwhile effect that I can see. I terminate this errant
process with Task Manager.


It's probably not a good idea to do that.

When SeaMonkey closes down, it writes changes to it's
configuration files, such as prefs.js and others. By aborting
this early, you are not allowing it to complete these cleanup
tasks.


I have a similar experience (SM sometimes fails to terminate
properly), and I have sometimes waited 10 minutes or more while it
does nothing (consumes 0% of my CPU) before forcing it to close.
The program has always run fine afterward. I have never seen it
terminate on its own once it reaches this state.

By this state I mean:
• program is visible only in Task Manager;
• program is consuming 0% of CPU and has been for at least two minutes.

I have not yet identified any user actions that can reliably cause
this fault, and I've been looking since I first noticed it in
Mozilla 1.7.


I've seen that happen and I attribute it to empty trash on exit -
that's at least a possibility.

This running on can also interfere with re-launching SeaMonkey, BUT
they have now fixed it so that instead of creating multiple copies
of SM it waits.


Yes, that's my experience, too. If I try to launch SM while this is
going on, nothing happens. And that's usually my tip-off to check Task
Manager. Once I force the hung instance to close, I'm then free to 
launch it again and run normally.


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Re: SM 2.0.8 on XP consuming CPU after exit?

2010-09-23 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

Leonidas Jones wrote:


u...@domain.invalid  wrote:

Running SeaMonkey 2.0.8 under Windows XP SP3 (long time SM user).
When I exit SeaMonkey by closing all the windows or using the Exit
menu item), the Seamonkey process continues to run invisibly and
consumes about 1/2 of the CPU to no worthwhile effect that I can see.
I terminate this errant process with Task Manager.


It's probably not a good idea to do that.

When SeaMonkey closes down, it writes changes to it's configuration
files, such as prefs.js and others. By aborting this early, you are not
allowing it to complete these cleanup tasks.


I have a similar experience (SM sometimes fails to terminate properly), 
and I have sometimes waited 10 minutes or more while it does nothing 
(consumes 0% of my CPU) before forcing it to close. The program has 
always run fine afterward. I have never seen it terminate on its own 
once it reaches this state.


By this state I mean:
• program is visible only in Task Manager;
• program is consuming 0% of CPU and has been for at least two minutes.

I have not yet identified any user actions that can reliably cause this 
fault, and I've been looking since I first noticed it in Mozilla 1.7.


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Re: SM 2.0.8 on XP consuming CPU after exit?

2010-09-23 Thread Beverly Howard

 It's probably not a good idea to do that. 

While that would be a consideration if SM were still in use and 
accessible, since SM is dead in the water there is no reason not to 
kill the process if there has been an interval since it was used.


fwiw, I have needed to kill SM in taskmanger for many years and have not 
experienced any corruption.


The other point to consider is to see if quick launch is still 
running.  If so, exit from the tray icon and see if it removes the task 
manager entry.


Beverly Howard

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Re: SM 2.0.8 on XP consuming CPU after exit?

2010-09-23 Thread Bill Davidsen

Leonidas Jones wrote:

u...@domain.invalid  wrote:

Running SeaMonkey 2.0.8 under Windows XP SP3 (long time SM user).
When I exit SeaMonkey by closing all the windows or using the Exit
menu item), the Seamonkey process continues to run invisibly and
consumes about 1/2 of the CPU to no worthwhile effect that I can see.
I terminate this errant process with Task Manager.




It's probably not a good idea to do that.

When SeaMonkey closes down, it writes changes to it's configuration
files, such as prefs.js and others. By aborting this early, you are not
allowing it  to complete these cleanup tasks.

I doubt looping until the heat death of the universe is cleanup, these processes 
do not terminate.


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Re: SM 2.0.8 on XP consuming CPU after exit?

2010-09-22 Thread Leonidas Jones
u...@domain.invalid wrote:
 Running SeaMonkey 2.0.8 under Windows XP SP3 (long time SM user).
 When I exit SeaMonkey by closing all the windows or using the Exit
 menu item), the Seamonkey process continues to run invisibly and
 consumes about 1/2 of the CPU to no worthwhile effect that I can see.
 I terminate this errant process with Task Manager.
 


It's probably not a good idea to do that.

When SeaMonkey closes down, it writes changes to it's configuration
files, such as prefs.js and others. By aborting this early, you are not
allowing it  to complete these cleanup tasks.

By the way, could you add a standard sig delimiter to your posts, so
that we do not have to strip your sig manually, as I have done here? 
Thanks!

Lee
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