Re: About W9Gs build--Seamonkey-2.53.5b1pre

[Daniel]

Paul Bergsagel wrote on 16/09/2020 10:56 AM:

Daniel wrote:

Paul Bergsagel wrote on 15/09/2020 12:59 PM:

Daniel wrote:

Paul Bergsagel wrote on 14/09/2020 11:30 AM:

Hi,

I downloaded the build by W9G seamonkey-2.53.5b1pre  on September 
13 (today).  I the last build I had downloaded was from September 7.


The first thing I Noticed was how fast and responsive it was 
compared to the build from September 7 that I had been using.  Has 
anyone else tried any of the builds by W9G recently and noticed the 
speed and responsiveness improvements.  What a difference.


BTW I am using MacOS 10.15.6.


Paul, when you installed the latest, did you flush the cache to 
ensure the SM had to re-acquire the web-site data i.e. to stop it 
just re-using the Cached data??
I don't use the cache and have it set to use 0 mb of disk space. The 
browser was to retrieving stored data from the cache.


Hmm! Sorry, Paul, did you mean "The browser was *not set* to 
retrieving stored data from the cache."??

Yes. I don't use the cache when browsing.

O.K., so that means that when you go to a web-site, SM *must* get the 
required information anew, so things must be happening faster.


However, I expect 'The Web' is not acting faster just because you are 
using SM 2.53.5b1pre, just your computer device must be displaying 
things a bit quicker  so I'm having troubles thinking there would be 
a really noticeable speed increase ... marginal, Yeah, sure, but greatly 
increased ... don't know!!


But, if it seems so, to you, great!!
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Re: About W9Gs build--Seamonkey-2.53.5b1pre

[Paul Bergsagel]

Daniel wrote:

Paul Bergsagel wrote on 15/09/2020 12:59 PM:

Daniel wrote:

Paul Bergsagel wrote on 14/09/2020 11:30 AM:

Hi,

I downloaded the build by W9G seamonkey-2.53.5b1pre  on September 13 
(today).  I the last build I had downloaded was from September 7.


The first thing I Noticed was how fast and responsive it was 
compared to the build from September 7 that I had been using.  Has 
anyone else tried any of the builds by W9G recently and noticed the 
speed and responsiveness improvements.  What a difference.


BTW I am using MacOS 10.15.6.


Paul, when you installed the latest, did you flush the cache to 
ensure the SM had to re-acquire the web-site data i.e. to stop it 
just re-using the Cached data??
I don't use the cache and have it set to use 0 mb of disk space. The 
browser was to retrieving stored data from the cache.


Hmm! Sorry, Paul, did you mean "The browser was *not set* to retrieving 
stored data from the cache."??

Yes. I don't use the cache when browsing.

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Re: About W9Gs build--Seamonkey-2.53.5b1pre

[Daniel]

Paul Bergsagel wrote on 15/09/2020 12:59 PM:

Daniel wrote:

Paul Bergsagel wrote on 14/09/2020 11:30 AM:

Hi,

I downloaded the build by W9G seamonkey-2.53.5b1pre  on September 13 
(today).  I the last build I had downloaded was from September 7.


The first thing I Noticed was how fast and responsive it was compared 
to the build from September 7 that I had been using.  Has anyone else 
tried any of the builds by W9G recently and noticed the speed and 
responsiveness improvements.  What a difference.


BTW I am using MacOS 10.15.6.


Paul, when you installed the latest, did you flush the cache to ensure 
the SM had to re-acquire the web-site data i.e. to stop it just 
re-using the Cached data??
I don't use the cache and have it set to use 0 mb of disk space. The 
browser was to retrieving stored data from the cache.


Hmm! Sorry, Paul, did you mean "The browser was *not set* to retrieving 
stored data from the cache."??

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Re: About W9Gs build--Seamonkey-2.53.5b1pre

[Paul Bergsagel]

Daniel wrote:

Paul Bergsagel wrote on 14/09/2020 11:30 AM:

Hi,

I downloaded the build by W9G seamonkey-2.53.5b1pre  on September 13 
(today).  I the last build I had downloaded was from September 7.


The first thing I Noticed was how fast and responsive it was compared 
to the build from September 7 that I had been using.  Has anyone else 
tried any of the builds by W9G recently and noticed the speed and 
responsiveness improvements.  What a difference.


BTW I am using MacOS 10.15.6.


Paul, when you installed the latest, did you flush the cache to ensure 
the SM had to re-acquire the web-site data i.e. to stop it just re-using 
the Cached data??
I don't use the cache and have it set to use 0 mb of disk space. The 
browser was to retrieving stored data from the cache.

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Re: About W9Gs build--Seamonkey-2.53.5b1pre

[Daniel]

Paul Bergsagel wrote on 14/09/2020 11:30 AM:

Hi,

I downloaded the build by W9G seamonkey-2.53.5b1pre  on September 13 
(today).  I the last build I had downloaded was from September 7.


The first thing I Noticed was how fast and responsive it was compared to 
the build from September 7 that I had been using.  Has anyone else tried 
any of the builds by W9G recently and noticed the speed and 
responsiveness improvements.  What a difference.


BTW I am using MacOS 10.15.6.


Paul, when you installed the latest, did you flush the cache to ensure 
the SM had to re-acquire the web-site data i.e. to stop it just re-using 
the Cached data??

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Re: about:

[Ed Mullen]

Philip TAYLOR wrote:



Ed Mullen wrote:


As I mentioned in another reply the link works for me and goes to:

http://www.xulplanet.com/ndeakin/arts/reasons.html

Which looks like this:

http://edmullen.net/Clipboard01.jpg


Which in turn displays :


edmullen dot net

 MOZILLA
 ABINGTON
 GENERAL
 MUSIC

ERROR 404 - Not Found!

Sorry about that! The requested page was not found. Please check the URL and 
try again.

It is possible you tried to reach a ".html" page. All previous .html pages are now 
".php" pages. If a link on this site brought you here please contact Ed by clicking the 
link below. If a link outside of this site (or your bookmarks/favorites) brought you here it is 
likely out-of-date.





My bad.

http://edmullen.net/temp/Clipboard01.jpg


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Re: about:

[Ed Mullen]

»Q« wrote:

On Mon, 08 Apr 2013 21:48:02 -0400
Ed Mullen  wrote:


So, the linked page is:



And here is what it looks like to me in SeaMonkey:

http://edmullen.net/Clipboard01.jpg


The link to your screenshot gives me a 404.


However!  I tried the page in Firefox and got what others
indicate:  The only thing that displays is the last line:  "Legal
Terms".

I have no explanation for this odd behavior.


Here's what I see in SeaMonkey, same as in Firefox:
.  If I turn on any
ad-blocking I only see "Legal Terms".

Is it possible that all your browsers other than Firefox are using
cached copies of the page?  It seems like a long shot, but it's all I
can think of.



My bad.

http://edmullen.net/temp/Clipboard01.jpg

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Re: about:

[»Q«]

On Mon, 08 Apr 2013 21:48:02 -0400
Ed Mullen  wrote:

> > So, the linked page is:
> >
> > 
> >
> > And here is what it looks like to me in SeaMonkey:
> >
> > http://edmullen.net/Clipboard01.jpg

The link to your screenshot gives me a 404.

> > However!  I tried the page in Firefox and got what others
> > indicate:  The only thing that displays is the last line:  "Legal
> > Terms".
> >
> > I have no explanation for this odd behavior.

Here's what I see in SeaMonkey, same as in Firefox:
.  If I turn on any
ad-blocking I only see "Legal Terms".

Is it possible that all your browsers other than Firefox are using
cached copies of the page?  It seems like a long shot, but it's all I
can think of.
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Re: about:

[Ed Mullen]

Robert Kaiser wrote:

WaltS schrieb:

Shame about:robots isn't in SeaMonkey.


But we have about:life instead! :)

Robert Kaiser


Right!  Easily my favorite!

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Re: about:

[Robert Kaiser]

WaltS schrieb:

Shame about:robots isn't in SeaMonkey.


But we have about:life instead! :)

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Re: about:

[»Q«]

On Mon, 08 Apr 2013 13:13:31 -0400
Ed Mullen  wrote:

> Ed Mullen wrote:
> > »Q« wrote:
> >> On Sun, 07 Apr 2013 19:02:13 -0400
> >> Ed Mullen  wrote:
> >>
> >>> Philip TAYLOR wrote:
>  Ed Mullen wrote:
> 
> > I just updated an old page of mine you can have some fun with:
> >
> > http://edmullen.net/mozilla/moz_tricks.php
> >>
>  Needs updating again, Ed : 101 Reasons -> parking.
> >>
> >>> Err ... could you be more specific?  Like an actual URL in the
> >>> same vein as my page?
> >>
> >> I think he just means the "101 Reasons" link goes to a nothing
> >> page.
> >>
> >> also, s/about:telementry/about:telemetry
> >>
> >
> > Seems like an "oops" and I'll look into it.  Thanks!
> >
> 
> That's one that won't work from a Web page as I indicate on my page
> with:
> 
> "In your browser's location bar enter the following URLs, press
> Enter, and see what happens. If clicking on these links doesn't work
> for you, copy/paste or type them into the location bar and press
> Enter to invoke the function: Some cannot be invoked from a Web page
> link. You can also (in some cases) simply drag and drop the link onto
> an existing tab or a blank spot on the tab bar."

The spelling error would only affect people who copy and paste the link
text.  The href attribute has the correct spelling of "telemetry".

about:telementry
^

> The 101 Reasons link works for me and takes me to:
> 
> http://www.xulplanet.com/ndeakin/arts/reasons.html

Me too, but it's just a parking page for an expired domain.  Instead of
anything useful, I just see what's in this screenshot:
.  (I tried clicking on your
the screenshot you posted, but got a 404 error from your server.)

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Re: about:

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Ed Mullen wrote:


"In your browser's location bar enter the following URLs, press Enter,
and see what happens. If clicking on these links doesn't work for you,
copy/paste or type them into the location bar and press Enter to invoke
the function: Some cannot be invoked from a Web page link. You can also
(in some cases) simply drag and drop the link onto an existing tab or a
blank spot on the tab bar."

The 101 Reasons link works for me and takes me to:

http://www.xulplanet.com/ndeakin/arts/reasons.html


It takes me there, too, but the page is a huge white field with the 
words "Legal Terms" in small gray print. Nothing else. Having read that, 
I see no way to get to the content.


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Re: about:

[Philip TAYLOR]

Ed Mullen wrote:

> As I mentioned in another reply the link works for me and goes to:
> 
> http://www.xulplanet.com/ndeakin/arts/reasons.html
> 
> Which looks like this:
> 
> http://edmullen.net/Clipboard01.jpg

Which in turn displays :

> edmullen dot net
> 
> MOZILLA
> ABINGTON
> GENERAL
> MUSIC
> 
> ERROR 404 - Not Found!
> 
> Sorry about that! The requested page was not found. Please check the URL and 
> try again.
> 
> It is possible you tried to reach a ".html" page. All previous .html pages 
> are now ".php" pages. If a link on this site brought you here please contact 
> Ed by clicking the link below. If a link outside of this site (or your 
> bookmarks/favorites) brought you here it is likely out-of-date. 


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Re: about:

[Ed Mullen]

Philip TAYLOR wrote:

Same URL, Ed : the text "101 Reasons" leads to a parking page.
One or two other links are also broken (no longer remember which).

Philip Taylor


Err ... could you be more specific?  Like an actual URL in the same vein as my 
page?



As I mentioned in another reply the link works for me and goes to:

http://www.xulplanet.com/ndeakin/arts/reasons.html

Which looks like this:

http://edmullen.net/Clipboard01.jpg

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Re: about:

[Ed Mullen]

Ed Mullen wrote:

»Q« wrote:

On Sun, 07 Apr 2013 19:02:13 -0400
Ed Mullen  wrote:


Philip TAYLOR wrote:

Ed Mullen wrote:


I just updated an old page of mine you can have some fun with:

http://edmullen.net/mozilla/moz_tricks.php



Needs updating again, Ed : 101 Reasons -> parking.



Err ... could you be more specific?  Like an actual URL in the same
vein as my page?


I think he just means the "101 Reasons" link goes to a nothing page.

also, s/about:telementry/about:telemetry



Seems like an "oops" and I'll look into it.  Thanks!



That's one that won't work from a Web page as I indicate on my page with:

"In your browser's location bar enter the following URLs, press Enter, 
and see what happens. If clicking on these links doesn't work for you, 
copy/paste or type them into the location bar and press Enter to invoke 
the function: Some cannot be invoked from a Web page link. You can also 
(in some cases) simply drag and drop the link onto an existing tab or a 
blank spot on the tab bar."


The 101 Reasons link works for me and takes me to:

http://www.xulplanet.com/ndeakin/arts/reasons.html


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Re: about:

[Philip TAYLOR]

Same URL, Ed : the text "101 Reasons" leads to a parking page.
One or two other links are also broken (no longer remember which).

Philip Taylor

> Err ... could you be more specific?  Like an actual URL in the same vein as 
> my page? 

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Re: about:

[Philip Chee]

On 08/04/2013 07:46, WaltS wrote:
> On 04/07/2013 07:34 PM, »Q« wrote:
>> On Sun, 07 Apr 2013 19:02:13 -0400
>> Ed Mullen  wrote:
>>
>>> Philip TAYLOR wrote:
 Ed Mullen wrote:

> I just updated an old page of mine you can have some fun with:
>
> http://edmullen.net/mozilla/moz_tricks.php
>>
 Needs updating again, Ed : 101 Reasons -> parking.
>>
>>> Err ... could you be more specific?  Like an actual URL in the same
>>> vein as my page?
>>
>> I think he just means the "101 Reasons" link goes to a nothing page.
>>
>> also, s/about:telementry/about:telemetry
> 
> Shame about:robots isn't in SeaMonkey.

There's a about:Robots extension for that.

Phil

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Re: about:

[Ed Mullen]

Ed Mullen wrote:

WaltS wrote:

On 04/07/2013 07:34 PM, »Q« wrote:

On Sun, 07 Apr 2013 19:02:13 -0400
Ed Mullen  wrote:


Philip TAYLOR wrote:

Ed Mullen wrote:


I just updated an old page of mine you can have some fun with:

http://edmullen.net/mozilla/moz_tricks.php



Needs updating again, Ed : 101 Reasons -> parking.



Err ... could you be more specific?  Like an actual URL in the same
vein as my page?


I think he just means the "101 Reasons" link goes to a nothing page.

also, s/about:telementry/about:telemetry



Shame about:robots isn't in SeaMonkey.



But it is in Firefox.  And my page states that the links don't work in
ALL Mozilla products.  Read.



And, I wish SeaMonkey and Firefox etc. would unify all the about: pages. 
 I like the whimsical aspects of it but it's annoying that there is no 
continuity among apps


BTW, here's one I love from way back ...



In long ago yore Mozilla was decried as bloated because it included 
"everything including the kitchen sink!"



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Re: about:

[Ed Mullen]

Ed Mullen wrote:

Ed Mullen wrote:

WaltS wrote:

On 04/07/2013 07:34 PM, »Q« wrote:

On Sun, 07 Apr 2013 19:02:13 -0400
Ed Mullen  wrote:


Philip TAYLOR wrote:

Ed Mullen wrote:


I just updated an old page of mine you can have some fun with:

http://edmullen.net/mozilla/moz_tricks.php



Needs updating again, Ed : 101 Reasons -> parking.



Err ... could you be more specific?  Like an actual URL in the same
vein as my page?


I think he just means the "101 Reasons" link goes to a nothing page.

also, s/about:telementry/about:telemetry



Shame about:robots isn't in SeaMonkey.



But it is in Firefox.  And my page states that the links don't work in
ALL Mozilla products.  Read.



And, I wish SeaMonkey and Firefox etc. would unify all the about: pages.
  I like the whimsical aspects of it but it's annoying that there is no
continuity among apps

BTW, here's one I love from way back ...



In long ago yore Mozilla was decried as bloated because it included
"everything including the kitchen sink!"




And also: https://www.google.com/search?q=about%20kitchen%20sink


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Re: about:

[Ed Mullen]

WaltS wrote:

On 04/07/2013 07:34 PM, »Q« wrote:

On Sun, 07 Apr 2013 19:02:13 -0400
Ed Mullen  wrote:


Philip TAYLOR wrote:

Ed Mullen wrote:


I just updated an old page of mine you can have some fun with:

http://edmullen.net/mozilla/moz_tricks.php



Needs updating again, Ed : 101 Reasons -> parking.



Err ... could you be more specific?  Like an actual URL in the same
vein as my page?


I think he just means the "101 Reasons" link goes to a nothing page.

also, s/about:telementry/about:telemetry



Shame about:robots isn't in SeaMonkey.



But it is in Firefox.  And my page states that the links don't work in 
ALL Mozilla products.  Read.


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Re: about:

[Ed Mullen]

»Q« wrote:

On Sun, 07 Apr 2013 19:02:13 -0400
Ed Mullen  wrote:


Philip TAYLOR wrote:

Ed Mullen wrote:


I just updated an old page of mine you can have some fun with:

http://edmullen.net/mozilla/moz_tricks.php



Needs updating again, Ed : 101 Reasons -> parking.



Err ... could you be more specific?  Like an actual URL in the same
vein as my page?


I think he just means the "101 Reasons" link goes to a nothing page.

also, s/about:telementry/about:telemetry



Seems like an "oops" and I'll look into it.  Thanks!

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Re: about:

[WaltS]

On 04/07/2013 07:34 PM, »Q« wrote:

On Sun, 07 Apr 2013 19:02:13 -0400
Ed Mullen  wrote:


Philip TAYLOR wrote:

Ed Mullen wrote:


I just updated an old page of mine you can have some fun with:

http://edmullen.net/mozilla/moz_tricks.php



Needs updating again, Ed : 101 Reasons -> parking.



Err ... could you be more specific?  Like an actual URL in the same
vein as my page?


I think he just means the "101 Reasons" link goes to a nothing page.

also, s/about:telementry/about:telemetry



Shame about:robots isn't in SeaMonkey.

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Re: about:

[»Q«]

On Sun, 07 Apr 2013 19:02:13 -0400
Ed Mullen  wrote:

> Philip TAYLOR wrote:
> > Ed Mullen wrote:
> >
> >> I just updated an old page of mine you can have some fun with:
> >>
> >> http://edmullen.net/mozilla/moz_tricks.php

> > Needs updating again, Ed : 101 Reasons -> parking.

> Err ... could you be more specific?  Like an actual URL in the same
> vein as my page?

I think he just means the "101 Reasons" link goes to a nothing page.

also, s/about:telementry/about:telemetry
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Re: about:

[Ed Mullen]

Philip TAYLOR wrote:

Needs updating again, Ed : 101 Reasons -> parking.

Ed Mullen wrote:


I just updated an old page of mine you can have some fun with:

http://edmullen.net/mozilla/moz_tricks.php


Err ... could you be more specific?  Like an actual URL in the same vein 
as my page?


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Re: about:

[Philip TAYLOR]

Needs updating again, Ed : 101 Reasons -> parking.

Ed Mullen wrote:

> I just updated an old page of mine you can have some fun with:
> 
> http://edmullen.net/mozilla/moz_tricks.php
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Re: About Image Management on Seamonkey Browser

[rackcycle]

On Friday, 1 March 2013 10:33:08 UTC-5, rack...@gmail.com  wrote:
> Seamonkey is one of the best browsers I've been using in a long time. That 
> said there's a minor issue for those of us who regularily stumble our way 
> through the permissions / preference areas when it comes to managing images 
> in browser windows.
> 
> Now I know the dream I have, of having all preferences and settings appear in 
> one long single window with check marks, is never going to be possible, so 
> 
> 
> 
> Is there a simple sheet of instructions, that will work, on how to adjust 
> image permissions and preferences so that we can undo the mess we've created 
> by "playing with the controls"?
> 
> 
> 
> Case in point: I've messed up my seamonkey settings for images, so badly, 
> that I don't think I'll ever get images back on some sites. And I have tried, 
> for days.
> 
> 
> 
> As I said in the beginning, I really like seamonkey, and intend to use it as 
> my main browser, email, and irregardless of image viewing issues. (I have 
> firefox as a back up).
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks for your advise, if there is any.

Okay, thanks guys,
but I think I've found the "work around" for this 
issue.
I just go to:
Switch Profile
Manage Profiles
Add New Profile

name it "images on"
and never play with the permissions controls.
 
This provides a clean slate to the issue and
makes an easy way to fix too much messing around
with the permissions. (of which I'm guilty).

All I have to do is switch profiles to get all
sites images working again.


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Re: About Image Management on Seamonkey Browser

[David E. Ross]

On 3/1/13 6:54 PM, Geoff Welsh wrote:
> rackcy...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Seamonkey is one of the best browsers I've been using in a long time. That 
>> said there's a minor issue for those of us who regularily stumble our way 
>> through the permissions / preference areas when it comes to managing images 
>> in browser windows.
>> Now I know the dream I have, of having all preferences and settings appear 
>> in one long single window with check marks, is never going to be possible, so
>>
>> Is there a simple sheet of instructions, that will work, on how to adjust 
>> image permissions and preferences so that we can undo the mess we've created 
>> by "playing with the controls"?
>>
>> Case in point: I've messed up my seamonkey settings for images, so badly, 
>> that I don't think I'll ever get images back on some sites. And I have 
>> tried, for days.
>>
>> As I said in the beginning, I really like seamonkey, and intend to use it as 
>> my main browser, email, and irregardless of image viewing issues. (I have 
>> firefox as a back up).
>>
>> Thanks for your advise, if there is any.
> 
> Tools/Image Manager/Manage Image Permissions
> 
> click on "Remove All Sites"
> 
> maybe?  Or similar... I'm at my old machine right now, which maxed out 
> at SM 2.0.14.
> GW
> 

In the current SeaMonkey 2.16, [Tools > Image Manager > Manage Image
Permissions] launches the Data Manager, which does not have a "Remove
All Sites" for image permissions.  Instead, you must step through each
domain, one at a time, to check ALL permission, not just image
permissions.  If you find an image permission, you must then check the
"Use Default" checkbox to undo a prior image permission setting.  All
this is clearly not user-oriented, which is why I submitted my prior
reply in this thread.

The Permissions Menu in PrefBar gives you the old Image Manager along
with the old Cookies and Popups Managers.

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Re: About Image Management on Seamonkey Browser

[Geoff Welsh]

rackcy...@gmail.com wrote:

Seamonkey is one of the best browsers I've been using in a long time. That said 
there's a minor issue for those of us who regularily stumble our way through 
the permissions / preference areas when it comes to managing images in browser 
windows.
Now I know the dream I have, of having all preferences and settings appear in 
one long single window with check marks, is never going to be possible, so

Is there a simple sheet of instructions, that will work, on how to adjust image 
permissions and preferences so that we can undo the mess we've created by "playing 
with the controls"?

Case in point: I've messed up my seamonkey settings for images, so badly, that 
I don't think I'll ever get images back on some sites. And I have tried, for 
days.

As I said in the beginning, I really like seamonkey, and intend to use it as my 
main browser, email, and irregardless of image viewing issues. (I have firefox 
as a back up).

Thanks for your advise, if there is any.


Tools/Image Manager/Manage Image Permissions

click on "Remove All Sites"

maybe?  Or similar... I'm at my old machine right now, which maxed out 
at SM 2.0.14.

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Re: About Image Management on Seamonkey Browser

[David E. Ross]

On 3/1/13 7:33 AM, rackcy...@gmail.com wrote:
> Seamonkey is one of the best browsers I've been using in a long
> time.
That said there's a minor issue for those of us who regularily stumble
our way through the permissions / preference areas when it comes to
managing images in browser windows.
> Now I know the dream I have, of having all preferences and settings
appear in one long single window with check marks, is never going to be
possible, so
> 
> Is there a simple sheet of instructions, that will work, on how to
adjust image permissions and preferences so that we can undo the mess
we've created by "playing with the controls"?
> 
> Case in point: I've messed up my seamonkey settings for images, so
badly, that I don't think I'll ever get images back on some sites. And I
have tried, for days.
> 
> As I said in the beginning, I really like seamonkey, and intend to
> use
it as my main browser, email, and irregardless of image viewing issues.
(I have firefox as a back up).
> 
> Thanks for your advise, if there is any.>

First, download and install the PrefBar extension from
.

Then go to 
and import the Permissions Menu into PrefBar.

Finally, use the Permissions Menu to reach the Image Manager, where you
can change or delete image permissions.

See bug #664574 at .

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Re: About tab displays

[Daniel]

Daniel wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 1/11/13 1:25 AM, Daniel wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 1/9/13 1:41 PM, razvan alias play4fun wrote:

For some websites the icon in tabs are not displayed. For example i
used
for 2 website Mozilla Firefox and SeaMonkey, with Firefox the icon are
displayed but with SeaMonkey they are not. Why? I`ll attach 2
prints also.



Attachments are not allowed in this newsgroup.

What Web sites are affected?

On the SeaMonkey menu bar, go to [Edit > Preferences].  On the
resulting
Preferences window, seloect [Appearance > Content].  Are there check
marks in the first two checkboxes?



David, I think what Razvan might be looking for is to have the website
icons appear on the tabs in the browser screen, rather than in the
address bar, as you give him the instructions for!

I don't think this is possible in SM, is it??



Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:18.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.15

I just tested, and it works for me.  I see the site icons (what IE calls
favicons) both in the address area (for the current tab) and on the tabs.



David, not that you point it out, I do have the icons in the tabs, as
well!! I wonder when they started!!


s/not/now

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Re: About tab displays

[Daniel]

David E. Ross wrote:

On 1/11/13 1:25 AM, Daniel wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 1/9/13 1:41 PM, razvan alias play4fun wrote:

For some websites the icon in tabs are not displayed. For example i used
for 2 website Mozilla Firefox and SeaMonkey, with Firefox the icon are
displayed but with SeaMonkey they are not. Why? I`ll attach 2 prints also.



Attachments are not allowed in this newsgroup.

What Web sites are affected?

On the SeaMonkey menu bar, go to [Edit > Preferences].  On the resulting
Preferences window, seloect [Appearance > Content].  Are there check
marks in the first two checkboxes?



David, I think what Razvan might be looking for is to have the website
icons appear on the tabs in the browser screen, rather than in the
address bar, as you give him the instructions for!

I don't think this is possible in SM, is it??



Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:18.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.15

I just tested, and it works for me.  I see the site icons (what IE calls
favicons) both in the address area (for the current tab) and on the tabs.



David, not that you point it out, I do have the icons in the tabs, as 
well!! I wonder when they started!!


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Re: About tab displays

[David E. Ross]

On 1/11/13 1:25 AM, Daniel wrote:
> David E. Ross wrote:
>> On 1/9/13 1:41 PM, razvan alias play4fun wrote:
>>> For some websites the icon in tabs are not displayed. For example i used
>>> for 2 website Mozilla Firefox and SeaMonkey, with Firefox the icon are
>>> displayed but with SeaMonkey they are not. Why? I`ll attach 2 prints also.
>>>
>>
>> Attachments are not allowed in this newsgroup.
>>
>> What Web sites are affected?
>>
>> On the SeaMonkey menu bar, go to [Edit > Preferences].  On the resulting
>> Preferences window, seloect [Appearance > Content].  Are there check
>> marks in the first two checkboxes?
>>
> 
> David, I think what Razvan might be looking for is to have the website 
> icons appear on the tabs in the browser screen, rather than in the 
> address bar, as you give him the instructions for!
> 
> I don't think this is possible in SM, is it??
> 

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:18.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.15

I just tested, and it works for me.  I see the site icons (what IE calls
favicons) both in the address area (for the current tab) and on the tabs.

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Re: About tab displays

[Daniel]

David E. Ross wrote:

On 1/9/13 1:41 PM, razvan alias play4fun wrote:

For some websites the icon in tabs are not displayed. For example i used
for 2 website Mozilla Firefox and SeaMonkey, with Firefox the icon are
displayed but with SeaMonkey they are not. Why? I`ll attach 2 prints also.



Attachments are not allowed in this newsgroup.

What Web sites are affected?

On the SeaMonkey menu bar, go to [Edit > Preferences].  On the resulting
Preferences window, seloect [Appearance > Content].  Are there check
marks in the first two checkboxes?



David, I think what Razvan might be looking for is to have the website 
icons appear on the tabs in the browser screen, rather than in the 
address bar, as you give him the instructions for!


I don't think this is possible in SM, is it??

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Re: About tab displays

[David E. Ross]

On 1/9/13 1:41 PM, razvan alias play4fun wrote:
> For some websites the icon in tabs are not displayed. For example i used
> for 2 website Mozilla Firefox and SeaMonkey, with Firefox the icon are
> displayed but with SeaMonkey they are not. Why? I`ll attach 2 prints also.
> 

Attachments are not allowed in this newsgroup.

What Web sites are affected?

On the SeaMonkey menu bar, go to [Edit > Preferences].  On the resulting
Preferences window, seloect [Appearance > Content].  Are there check
marks in the first two checkboxes?

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Re: About to move to New Computer

[NoOp]

On 02/16/2011 03:58 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
> Phillip Jones wrote:
...
>> see this screenshot? you can't Highlight then click the button as shown?
>>
>> 
> 
> Okay, I overspoke -- yes, there is that limited capability. But I can't 
> look at the MIME type, and I can't search for file types.
...

> Some file types do show the MIME type, as in your screenshot, but most 
> do not. And in any event, that isn't editable.
> 
> It all has a very M$ kind of feel -- we won't tell you what we don't 
> think you should know.
> 

I agree that the ability to modify ala 1.x was (IMO) better/easier. If
all else fails, you can always modify (via a text editor) the
mimeTypes.rdf file. It would be nice if there were an extension with a
gui to do this - perhaps there is, but I've not looked.

Also see:
http://kb.mozillazine.org/MimeTypes.rdf
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Re: About to move to New Computer

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Phillip Jones wrote:


Paul B. Gallagher wrote:


If you know how to edit the helper apps list in v. 2, I'm sure a lot of
us would like to hear it. AFAIK the user no longer has any access other
than to view the list.


see this screenshot? you can't Highlight then click the button as shown?




Okay, I overspoke -- yes, there is that limited capability. But I can't 
look at the MIME type, and I can't search for file types.


For example, my system has an entry called "Application," but I can't 
search for "exe." And for that entry, the pull-down options are "Always 
ask" and "Save file."


For another example, the entry "Adobe Acrobat 7.0 document" doesn't 
mention "pdf" anywhere, and I can't search to see if SM knows how to 
handle PDFs or needs me to tell it. For that file type, the pull-down 
options are "Always ask," "Save file," "Use Acrobat 8.2 (default)," "Use 
Acrobat 8.2," "Use Acrobat 8.2 (in SeaMonkey)," "Use other...," and 
"Application details..." The last one pulls up a dialog that tells me 
"The following applications can be used to handle Adobe Acrobat 7.0 
document content," and lists Adobe Acrobat and tells me the directory 
containing its executable.


Some file types do show the MIME type, as in your screenshot, but most 
do not. And in any event, that isn't editable.


It all has a very M$ kind of feel -- we won't tell you what we don't 
think you should know.


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Re: About to move to New Computer

[Phillip Jones]

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Rufus wrote:


Phillip Jones wrote:

I will be switching from a PowerPC Mac To an Intel Mac in next few
days.

Can I move entire Folder that contains Preference newsgroups, Mail
extension and such To the new computer in same location then download a
fresh copy SeaMonkey and it open from scratch.I'd also like to do
similar with Camino, and FireFox as well.

Its been years since I've had to do this. This computer I am on is
about
7 years old. I'm not one of these types that replace computer every 6
months to two years because the software call for it. Usually on a Mac
you shift when there is a shift processors and system software is
written that will only use that new processor type.

this will be only my 5th Mac since 1986. So I don't do this often At
least I'd like to bring over my Mailboxes, Bookmarks, Password, and
newsgroups and my plugins and extensions.


That's what I've done in the past, but I do a clean install on the new
machine first and then move items/folders individually - generally just
my Mail/News items, but now that I'm a bit more up on the structure I'd
just move the whole Profile folder contents, I think.


Provided, of course, that the two machines have the same version
installed. You wouldn't wanna drop a v.2 folder into a v.1 machine.

And I wouldn't want to guess what would happen if the helper apps named
on the source machine weren't present on the target machine.



Yes - agreed. But even so, some components can be re-targeted if one
knows/is familiar with the file structure.


If you know how to edit the helper apps list in v. 2, I'm sure a lot of
us would like to hear it. AFAIK the user no longer has any access other
than to view the list.



see this screenshot?  you can't Highlight then click the button as shown?

http://screencast.com/t/cnyAv31FFyG

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Re: About to move to New Computer

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Rufus wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Rufus wrote:


Phillip Jones wrote:

I will be switching from a PowerPC Mac To an Intel Mac in next few
days.

Can I move entire Folder that contains Preference newsgroups, Mail
extension and such To the new computer in same location then download a
fresh copy SeaMonkey and it open from scratch.I'd also like to do
similar with Camino, and FireFox as well.

Its been years since I've had to do this. This computer I am on is
about
7 years old. I'm not one of these types that replace computer every 6
months to two years because the software call for it. Usually on a Mac
you shift when there is a shift processors and system software is
written that will only use that new processor type.

this will be only my 5th Mac since 1986. So I don't do this often At
least I'd like to bring over my Mailboxes, Bookmarks, Password, and
newsgroups and my plugins and extensions.


That's what I've done in the past, but I do a clean install on the new
machine first and then move items/folders individually - generally just
my Mail/News items, but now that I'm a bit more up on the structure I'd
just move the whole Profile folder contents, I think.


Provided, of course, that the two machines have the same version
installed. You wouldn't wanna drop a v.2 folder into a v.1 machine.

And I wouldn't want to guess what would happen if the helper apps named
on the source machine weren't present on the target machine.



Yes - agreed. But even so, some components can be re-targeted if one
knows/is familiar with the file structure.


If you know how to edit the helper apps list in v. 2, I'm sure a lot of 
us would like to hear it. AFAIK the user no longer has any access other 
than to view the list.


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Re: About to move to New Computer

[Phillip Jones]

Rufus wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Rufus wrote:


Phillip Jones wrote:

I will be switching from a PowerPC Mac To an Intel Mac in next few days.

Can I move entire Folder that contains Preference newsgroups, Mail
extension and such To the new computer in same location then download a
fresh copy SeaMonkey and it open from scratch.I'd also like to do
similar with Camino, and FireFox as well.

Its been years since I've had to do this. This computer I am on is about
7 years old. I'm not one of these types that replace computer every 6
months to two years because the software call for it. Usually on a Mac
you shift when there is a shift processors and system software is
written that will only use that new processor type.

this will be only my 5th Mac since 1986. So I don't do this often At
least I'd like to bring over my Mailboxes, Bookmarks, Password, and
newsgroups and my plugins and extensions.


That's what I've done in the past, but I do a clean install on the new
machine first and then move items/folders individually - generally just
my Mail/News items, but now that I'm a bit more up on the structure I'd
just move the whole Profile folder contents, I think.


Provided, of course, that the two machines have the same version
installed. You wouldn't wanna drop a v.2 folder into a v.1 machine.

And I wouldn't want to guess what would happen if the helper apps named
on the source machine weren't present on the target machine.



Yes - agreed.  But even so, some components can be re-targeted if one
knows/is familiar with the file structure.



Good to know. I expect I'll have updated versions of the same helper 
programs applications or will down load them ASAP.


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Re: About to move to New Computer

[Rufus]

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Rufus wrote:


Phillip Jones wrote:

I will be switching from a PowerPC Mac To an Intel Mac in next few days.

Can I move entire Folder that contains Preference newsgroups, Mail
extension and such To the new computer in same location then download a
fresh copy SeaMonkey and it open from scratch.I'd also like to do
similar with Camino, and FireFox as well.

Its been years since I've had to do this. This computer I am on is about
7 years old. I'm not one of these types that replace computer every 6
months to two years because the software call for it. Usually on a Mac
you shift when there is a shift processors and system software is
written that will only use that new processor type.

this will be only my 5th Mac since 1986. So I don't do this often At
least I'd like to bring over my Mailboxes, Bookmarks, Password, and
newsgroups and my plugins and extensions.


That's what I've done in the past, but I do a clean install on the new
machine first and then move items/folders individually - generally just
my Mail/News items, but now that I'm a bit more up on the structure I'd
just move the whole Profile folder contents, I think.


Provided, of course, that the two machines have the same version
installed. You wouldn't wanna drop a v.2 folder into a v.1 machine.

And I wouldn't want to guess what would happen if the helper apps named
on the source machine weren't present on the target machine.



Yes - agreed.  But even so, some components can be re-targeted if one 
knows/is familiar with the file structure.


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Re: About to move to New Computer

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Rufus wrote:


Phillip Jones wrote:

I will be switching from a PowerPC Mac To an Intel Mac in next few days.

Can I move entire Folder that contains Preference newsgroups, Mail
extension and such To the new computer in same location then download a
fresh copy SeaMonkey and it open from scratch.I'd also like to do
similar with Camino, and FireFox as well.

Its been years since I've had to do this. This computer I am on is about
7 years old. I'm not one of these types that replace computer every 6
months to two years because the software call for it. Usually on a Mac
you shift when there is a shift processors and system software is
written that will only use that new processor type.

this will be only my 5th Mac since 1986. So I don't do this often At
least I'd like to bring over my Mailboxes, Bookmarks, Password, and
newsgroups and my plugins and extensions.


That's what I've done in the past, but I do a clean install on the new
machine first and then move items/folders individually - generally just
my Mail/News items, but now that I'm a bit more up on the structure I'd
just move the whole Profile folder contents, I think.


Provided, of course, that the two machines have the same version 
installed. You wouldn't wanna drop a v.2 folder into a v.1 machine.


And I wouldn't want to guess what would happen if the helper apps named 
on the source machine weren't present on the target machine.


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Re: About to move to New Computer

[Rufus]

Phillip Jones wrote:

I will be switching from a PowerPC Mac To an Intel Mac in next few days.

Can I move entire Folder that contains Preference newsgroups, Mail
extension and such To the new computer in same location then download a
fresh copy SeaMonkey and it open from scratch.I'd also like to do
similar with Camino, and FireFox as well.

Its been years since I've had to do this. This computer I am on is about
7 years old. I'm not one of these types that replace computer every 6
months to two years because the software call for it. Usually on a Mac
you shift when there is a shift processors and system software is
written that will only use that new processor type.

this will be only my 5th Mac since 1986. So I don't do this often At
least I'd like to bring over my Mailboxes, Bookmarks, Password, and
newsgroups and my plugins and extensions.





That's what I've done in the past, but I do a clean install on the new 
machine first and then move items/folders individually - generally just 
my Mail/News items, but now that I'm a bit more up on the structure I'd 
just move the whole Profile folder contents, I think.


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Re: About SeaMonkey?

[NoOp]

On 12/16/2009 07:45 AM, Robert Kaiser wrote:
> Rob Steinmetz wrote:
>> Does the About Seamonkey page update when you upgrade to 2.0.1?
> 
> Yes.
> 
>> Mine says 2.0 and when I check for update I get "No updates Available".
> 
> Try again now that 2.0.1 has been released. ;-)
> 
> When we say we are releasing "on December 15th", then it means we are 
> making the release public some time during that day in US Pacific Time 
> zone, usually somewhat after 3pm in that time zone.
> 
> Robert Kaiser

And works for me :-) Thanks.
Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.6)
Gecko/20091206 Lightning/1.0b1pre SeaMonkey/2.0.1

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Re: About SeaMonkey?

[Robert Kaiser]

Rob Steinmetz wrote:

Does the About Seamonkey page update when you upgrade to 2.0.1?


Yes.


Mine says 2.0 and when I check for update I get "No updates Available".


Try again now that 2.0.1 has been released. ;-)

When we say we are releasing "on December 15th", then it means we are 
making the release public some time during that day in US Pacific Time 
zone, usually somewhat after 3pm in that time zone.


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Re: About SeaMonkey?

[David E. Ross]

On 12/14/2009 12:59 PM, Rob Steinmetz wrote:
> Does the About Seamonkey page update when you upgrade to 2.0.1?
> 
> Mine says 2.0 and when I check for update I get "No updates Available".
> 
> The build information is;
>> Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; 
>> rv:1.9.1.4) Gecko/20091017 Lightning/1.0b1pre SeaMonkey/2.0
> 

The [Help > About SeaMonkey] page reflects the current version, whatever
that version is.  Of course, you can change what SeaMonkey thinks its
version is.  That's called "spoofing".

Updates can be made automatic.  On your menu bar, go to [Edit >
Preferences].  On the left side of the Preferences window, select
[Advanced > Software Install].  On the Software Installation pane,
select the checkbox (to put a check mark there) for "SeaMonkey" under
"Automatically check for updates to:".  Indicate how often you want to
check.

I'm not sure, but I think automatic updates of an end-user version of
SeaMonkey will only occur when there is a new end-user version.  That
is, with the UA string you show in your message (an end-user version),
you won't automatically get nightlies, alphas, betas, or release
candidates.

-- 
David E. Ross


Go to Mozdev at  for quick access to
extensions for Firefox, Thunderbird, SeaMonkey, and other
Mozilla-related applications.  You can access Mozdev much
more quickly than you can Mozilla Add-Ons.
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Re: About SeaMonkey?

[Robert Traynor]

Where do you get 2.0.1 from..?  I went to:-


And all I can see is v2.0 and past betas and rRC versions etc.

Regards,
Robert Traynor (BobT).
15 December 2009   10:07


Leonidas Jones wrote:

Rob Steinmetz wrote:

Does the About Seamonkey page update when you upgrade to 2.0.1?

Mine says 2.0 and when I check for update I get "No updates Available".

The build information is;

Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US;
rv:1.9.1.4) Gecko/20091017 Lightning/1.0b1pre SeaMonkey/2.0




Mine does state 2.0.1.

Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.1.6)
Gecko/20091206 Lightning/1.0pre Mnenhy/0.7.6.0 SeaMonkey/2.0.1

Lee

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Re: About SeaMonkey?

[Leonidas Jones]

Rob Steinmetz wrote:

Does the About Seamonkey page update when you upgrade to 2.0.1?

Mine says 2.0 and when I check for update I get "No updates Available".

The build information is;

Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US;
rv:1.9.1.4) Gecko/20091017 Lightning/1.0b1pre SeaMonkey/2.0




Mine does state 2.0.1.

Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.1.6) 
Gecko/20091206 Lightning/1.0pre Mnenhy/0.7.6.0 SeaMonkey/2.0.1


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Re: About NSCopy and NSMail

[HeavyDuty]

Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:


ok, lets try a few things:

-- Compact the folders -- under File

-- if that doesn't work, then close SM, and delete all the *.msf files 
for that account.


-- if that doesn't work, then Edit, Preferences, Mail & Newsgroups, 
Composition, and on the top right, is something about automatically 
saving.  Uncheck it.



Thanks Peter,

I am on it first thing in the AM.
I am in Chicago, IL US GMT -6.00 +1.00 for Daylight Saving Time.
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Re: About NSCopy and NSMail

[Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo]

HeavyDuty wrote:

Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:

HeavyDuty wrote:

Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:

HeavyDuty wrote:

Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:

HeavyDuty wrote:

Win XP Pro SP3 SM 1.1.14

Today I got a send error stating that my message could not be 
copied to the sent box. When looking at local settings\temp I 
observed iterations of NSCopy.tmp and NSCopy1.tmp. Both with 0 
bits/bytes.


check your settings: edit, mail & newsgroups account settings, 
select the account, and under Copies & Folders, make sure that 
everything is pointing to the correct folder.  And look very 
closely because what looks correct, really isn't.



Peter,
In each of my 10 mail accounts/copies and folders/ all I have is 
the name of the mail boxes (sent, drafts, templates), under the 
account name. Example: under the account Heavy Duty, in the window 
for sent, it reports Heavy Duty. These are all correct. I can find 
no suggestion for a path path that goes to documents and settings\ 
(username)\local settings\temp. That is the directory where these 
NS*.* show up.
Just now as I was attempting to send out an e-mail, it failed with 
this message: "unable to save message as draft." (I think because 
the message on the screen had hit the time-out before holding as a 
draft) "Unable to open the temporary file Documents and 
Settings\(username)\temp\nsmail.pdf. Check your temporary directory 
settings."
When I looked in the temp file, there was a nsmail.eml file and an 
nscopy.tmp file both timed to the present/current date/time. Each 
file was a little less than 2KB.


did you follow the instructions I gave: Edit, Mail & Newsgroups 
Account Settings, select the account and under Copies & Folders? It 
sure does't sound like it.



I thought I followed your directions.
Is this screen shot what you were expecting?

http://img148.imageshack.us/my.php?image=smcopiesfolders.jpg




yes it is.  Now, is this message a posting to a newsgroup or an email 
message?




Peter,
Thanks for your continued interest.

I think you are asking about what I was sending by what mechanism.

This is all about sending e-mails.

I have had this happen a number of times when sending an html e-mail 
message with a pdf attachment to multiple recipients. I have posted my 
frustrations about this in the past to this NG

.
The particular circumstances in the last two days consist of sending to 
both multiple recipients in html with a pdf attachment AND sending a 
plain text message with a pdf attachment to two persons. As you can see, 
I have gotten a variety of different error messages. What ever is going 
on is going in the ...\temp subdirectory and concerns various NS*.* 
temporary files. Sometimes they must not get made, sometimes they get 
reduced to 0 bytes, or get corrupted, and sometimes they are not deleted 
after sending.


Does this provide enough detail?


ok, lets try a few things:

-- Compact the folders -- under File

-- if that doesn't work, then close SM, and delete all 
the *.msf files for that account.


-- if that doesn't work, then Edit, Preferences, Mail & 
Newsgroups, Composition, and on the top right, is 
something about automatically saving.  Uncheck it.


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help Emails to me may become public


Notice: This posting is protected under the Free Speech 
Laws, which applies everywhere in the FREE world, 
except for some strange reason, not to the mozilla.org 
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Re: About NSCopy and NSMail

[HeavyDuty]

Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:

HeavyDuty wrote:

Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:

HeavyDuty wrote:

Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:

HeavyDuty wrote:

Win XP Pro SP3 SM 1.1.14

Today I got a send error stating that my message could not be 
copied to the sent box. When looking at local settings\temp I 
observed iterations of NSCopy.tmp and NSCopy1.tmp. Both with 0 
bits/bytes.


check your settings: edit, mail & newsgroups account settings, 
select the account, and under Copies & Folders, make sure that 
everything is pointing to the correct folder.  And look very 
closely because what looks correct, really isn't.



Peter,
In each of my 10 mail accounts/copies and folders/ all I have is the 
name of the mail boxes (sent, drafts, templates), under the account 
name. Example: under the account Heavy Duty, in the window for sent, 
it reports Heavy Duty. These are all correct. I can find no 
suggestion for a path path that goes to documents and settings\ 
(username)\local settings\temp. That is the directory where these 
NS*.* show up.
Just now as I was attempting to send out an e-mail, it failed with 
this message: "unable to save message as draft." (I think because 
the message on the screen had hit the time-out before holding as a 
draft) "Unable to open the temporary file Documents and 
Settings\(username)\temp\nsmail.pdf. Check your temporary directory 
settings."
When I looked in the temp file, there was a nsmail.eml file and an 
nscopy.tmp file both timed to the present/current date/time. Each 
file was a little less than 2KB.


did you follow the instructions I gave: Edit, Mail & Newsgroups 
Account Settings, select the account and under Copies & Folders? It 
sure does't sound like it.



I thought I followed your directions.
Is this screen shot what you were expecting?

http://img148.imageshack.us/my.php?image=smcopiesfolders.jpg




yes it is.  Now, is this message a posting to a newsgroup or an email 
message?




Peter,
Thanks for your continued interest.

I think you are asking about what I was sending by what 
mechanism.


This is all about sending e-mails.

I have had this happen a number of times when sending an 
html e-mail message with a pdf attachment to multiple 
recipients. I have posted my frustrations about this in the 
past to this NG

.
The particular circumstances in the last two days consist of 
sending to both multiple recipients in html with a pdf 
attachment AND sending a plain text message with a pdf 
attachment to two persons. As you can see, I have gotten a 
variety of different error messages. What ever is going on 
is going in the ...\temp subdirectory and concerns various 
NS*.* temporary files. Sometimes they must not get made, 
sometimes they get reduced to 0 bytes, or get corrupted, and 
sometimes they are not deleted after sending.


Does this provide enough detail?
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Re: About NSCopy and NSMail

[Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo]

HeavyDuty wrote:

Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:

HeavyDuty wrote:

Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:

HeavyDuty wrote:

Win XP Pro SP3 SM 1.1.14

Today I got a send error stating that my message could not be 
copied to the sent box. When looking at local settings\temp I 
observed iterations of NSCopy.tmp and NSCopy1.tmp. Both with 0 
bits/bytes.


check your settings: edit, mail & newsgroups account settings, 
select the account, and under Copies & Folders, make sure that 
everything is pointing to the correct folder.  And look very closely 
because what looks correct, really isn't.



Peter,
In each of my 10 mail accounts/copies and folders/ all I have is the 
name of the mail boxes (sent, drafts, templates), under the account 
name. Example: under the account Heavy Duty, in the window for sent, 
it reports Heavy Duty. These are all correct. I can find no 
suggestion for a path path that goes to documents and settings\ 
(username)\local settings\temp. That is the directory where these 
NS*.* show up.
Just now as I was attempting to send out an e-mail, it failed with 
this message: "unable to save message as draft." (I think because the 
message on the screen had hit the time-out before holding as a draft) 
"Unable to open the temporary file Documents and 
Settings\(username)\temp\nsmail.pdf. Check your temporary directory 
settings."
When I looked in the temp file, there was a nsmail.eml file and an 
nscopy.tmp file both timed to the present/current date/time. Each 
file was a little less than 2KB.


did you follow the instructions I gave: Edit, Mail & Newsgroups 
Account Settings, select the account and under Copies & Folders? It 
sure does't sound like it.



I thought I followed your directions.
Is this screen shot what you were expecting?

http://img148.imageshack.us/my.php?image=smcopiesfolders.jpg




yes it is.  Now, is this message a posting to a 
newsgroup or an email message?


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Re: About NSCopy and NSMail

[HeavyDuty]

Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:

HeavyDuty wrote:

Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:

HeavyDuty wrote:

Win XP Pro SP3 SM 1.1.14

Today I got a send error stating that my message could not be copied 
to the sent box. When looking at local settings\temp I observed 
iterations of NSCopy.tmp and NSCopy1.tmp. Both with 0 bits/bytes.


check your settings: edit, mail & newsgroups account settings, select 
the account, and under Copies & Folders, make sure that everything is 
pointing to the correct folder.  And look very closely because what 
looks correct, really isn't.



Peter,
In each of my 10 mail accounts/copies and folders/ all I have is the 
name of the mail boxes (sent, drafts, templates), under the account 
name. Example: under the account Heavy Duty, in the window for sent, 
it reports Heavy Duty. These are all correct. I can find no suggestion 
for a path path that goes to documents and settings\ (username)\local 
settings\temp. That is the directory where these NS*.* show up.
Just now as I was attempting to send out an e-mail, it failed with 
this message: "unable to save message as draft." (I think because the 
message on the screen had hit the time-out before holding as a draft) 
"Unable to open the temporary file Documents and 
Settings\(username)\temp\nsmail.pdf. Check your temporary directory 
settings."
When I looked in the temp file, there was a nsmail.eml file and an 
nscopy.tmp file both timed to the present/current date/time. Each file 
was a little less than 2KB.


did you follow the instructions I gave: Edit, Mail & Newsgroups Account 
Settings, select the account and under Copies & Folders? It sure does't 
sound like it.



I thought I followed your directions.
Is this screen shot what you were expecting?

http://img148.imageshack.us/my.php?image=smcopiesfolders.jpg


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Re: About NSCopy and NSMail

[Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo]

HeavyDuty wrote:

Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:

HeavyDuty wrote:

Win XP Pro SP3 SM 1.1.14

Today I got a send error stating that my message could not be copied 
to the sent box. When looking at local settings\temp I observed 
iterations of NSCopy.tmp and NSCopy1.tmp. Both with 0 bits/bytes.


check your settings: edit, mail & newsgroups account settings, select 
the account, and under Copies & Folders, make sure that everything is 
pointing to the correct folder.  And look very closely because what 
looks correct, really isn't.



Peter,
In each of my 10 mail accounts/copies and folders/ all I have is the 
name of the mail boxes (sent, drafts, templates), under the account 
name. Example: under the account Heavy Duty, in the window for sent, it 
reports Heavy Duty. These are all correct. I can find no suggestion for 
a path path that goes to documents and settings\ (username)\local 
settings\temp. That is the directory where these NS*.* show up.
Just now as I was attempting to send out an e-mail, it failed with this 
message: "unable to save message as draft." (I think because the message 
on the screen had hit the time-out before holding as a draft) "Unable to 
open the temporary file Documents and 
Settings\(username)\temp\nsmail.pdf. Check your temporary directory 
settings."
When I looked in the temp file, there was a nsmail.eml file and an 
nscopy.tmp file both timed to the present/current date/time. Each file 
was a little less than 2KB.


did you follow the instructions I gave: Edit, Mail & 
Newsgroups Account Settings, select the account and 
under Copies & Folders? It sure does't sound like it.


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help Emails to me may become public


Notice: This posting is protected under the Free Speech 
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Re: About NSCopy and NSMail

[HeavyDuty]

Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:

HeavyDuty wrote:

Win XP Pro SP3 SM 1.1.14

Today I got a send error stating that my message could not be copied 
to the sent box. When looking at local settings\temp I observed 
iterations of NSCopy.tmp and NSCopy1.tmp. Both with 0 bits/bytes.


check your settings: edit, mail & newsgroups account settings, select 
the account, and under Copies & Folders, make sure that everything is 
pointing to the correct folder.  And look very closely because what 
looks correct, really isn't.



Peter,
In each of my 10 mail accounts/copies and folders/ all I 
have is the name of the mail boxes (sent, drafts, 
templates), under the account name. Example: under the 
account Heavy Duty, in the window for sent, it reports Heavy 
Duty. These are all correct. I can find no suggestion for a 
path path that goes to documents and settings\ 
(username)\local settings\temp. That is the directory where 
these NS*.* show up.
Just now as I was attempting to send out an e-mail, it 
failed with this message: "unable to save message as draft." 
(I think because the message on the screen had hit the 
time-out before holding as a draft) "Unable to open the 
temporary file Documents and 
Settings\(username)\temp\nsmail.pdf. Check your temporary 
directory settings."
When I looked in the temp file, there was a nsmail.eml file 
and an nscopy.tmp file both timed to the present/current 
date/time. Each file was a little less than 2KB.

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Re: About NSCopy and NSMail

[Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo]

HeavyDuty wrote:

Win XP Pro SP3 SM 1.1.14

Today I got a send error stating that my message could not be copied to 
the sent box. When looking at local settings\temp I observed iterations 
of NSCopy.tmp and NSCopy1.tmp. Both with 0 bits/bytes.


check your settings: edit, mail & newsgroups account 
settings, select the account, and under Copies & 
Folders, make sure that everything is pointing to the 
correct folder.  And look very closely because what 
looks correct, really isn't.


--
*IMPORTANT*: Sorry folks, but I cannot provide email 
help Emails to me may become public


Notice: This posting is protected under the Free Speech 
Laws, which applies everywhere in the FREE world, 
except for some strange reason, not to the mozilla.org 
newsgroup servers, where your posting may get you banned.


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