Re: blank page when reading pdf file

2010-04-07 Thread Daniel

J. Weaver Jr. wrote:

Phillip Jones wrote:

Arne wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 4/5/10 9:14 AM, Walter wrote:

I click on a pdf file and adobe reader loads it ok. directly behind it
is a blank page. shouldn't it be the page from which I came? with the
link to the pdf page?
Walter.


I get this sometimes when the link is actually for JavaScript. The
script tries to launch a new page (which in my case becomes a new tab)
as it fetches the PDF file. It seems that the script actually downloads
another script (new page) that, in turn, gets the PDF file. Obviously,
if this is what is happening, it's a poorly designed Web site.


In my opinion there is no need at all for SM to open a blank tab/page
when it's the PDF reader that is launched, no matter how the web page
is designed! Why not just open the PDF reader?


I don't think it necessarily is supposed to. On occasion, when SeaMonkey
crashes for whatever reason it goes to a Blank Home page the only way to
cure is go to your homepage. then go to Preferences (in Macintosh -
called something else in Widows/Linux/UNIX) then To Browser clear out
what ever you have set as home page and click on Use current page) this
will fix it until next crash. Possibly the same mechanism the screws up
then is screwing up when you call a PDF and the only PDF viewer from
within SM or ThunderBird for that matter, that works is called PDF
Browser Plugin by Schubert of Germany.



There's no crash involved with this, though - it's just this extra,
blank page that opens up while the PDF is downloading and before
whatever external PDF reader is called, and which stays open and blank,
even after the PDF reader is exited.

It's not a crash, and it's really only cumbersome to the extent that
it requires one click on the X to close it away, but it's still a bug.
-JW


Cannot see the prob, myself!! You tell SM to open a page called 
www.somethinghere.com/otherthing.pdf The first thing SM does is start 
to look for the www.somethinghere.com so opens a new browser (or in a 
current browser) page, then, and only then, does SM look at the next bit 
otherthing.pdf and realises that it needs to do whatever you have set 
up to handle a pdf file.


Cannot see the prob!! Of course, my understanding of the situation might 
be stuffed, but it seems to apply.


Daniel
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Re: blank page when reading pdf file

2010-04-07 Thread Walter



BeeNeR wrote:

On or about 4/6/2010 12:39 PM, Walter hatte gesagt:



Daniel wrote:

Walter wrote:

I click on a pdf file and adobe reader loads it ok. directly behind it
is a blank page. shouldn't it be the page from which I came? with the
link to the pdf page?
Walter.


Walter, it can be done either of two ways, one loading Adobe Reader as a
separate program and the other using Adobe Reader as a helper program to
load the page with-in SM.

Walter, have a look back through the posts here, and look for a thread
called Constant crash on PDF links about 5-6 days ago. Could have an
answer for you.

HTH

Daniel


Daniel,

I did look at the posts in constant crash on PDF links but did not
find the problem mentioned there. As I explained in my original post,
when I invoke the adobe reader then load the file I get NO blank page.
It is only when I click on the pdf file and SM calls adobe reader, then
the blank page is behind the pdf display.

By the way, this has showed up after I downloaded and installed SM 2.0.3.

walte.


Same here.  In the 1.x.x versions you had a choice Open in Browser or Open
in (program).  It seems as though the choice went away in 2.x.x.

When opening in (program) a blank page was displayed,  when opening in the
browser it appeared in the tab.





Strangely, I have discovered that if I go back to the page from which I 
came, (where I clicked on the pdf link) it will display that page as 
long as I have not xed the pdf page. After I x the pdf page, then the 
page from which I came (link to the pdf)  is now blank.


In checking the plugins, I find that adobe reader is the default reader 
of pdf files.


W.
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Re: blank page when reading pdf file

2010-04-06 Thread Arne

David E. Ross wrote:

On 4/5/10 9:14 AM, Walter wrote:

I click on a pdf file and adobe reader loads it ok. directly behind it
is a blank page. shouldn't it be the page from which I came? with the
link to the pdf page?
Walter.


I get this sometimes when the link is actually for JavaScript.  The
script tries to launch a new page (which in my case becomes a new tab)
as it fetches the PDF file.  It seems that the script actually downloads
another script (new page) that, in turn, gets the PDF file.  Obviously,
if this is what is happening, it's a poorly designed Web site.


In my opinion there is no need at all for SM to open a blank tab/page 
when it's the PDF reader that is launched, no matter how the web page 
is designed! Why not just open the PDF reader?


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Re: blank page when reading pdf file

2010-04-06 Thread Daniel

Walter wrote:

I click on a pdf file and adobe reader loads it ok. directly behind it
is a blank page. shouldn't it be the page from which I came? with the
link to the pdf page?
Walter.


Walter, it can be done either of two ways, one loading Adobe Reader as a 
separate program and the other using Adobe Reader as a helper program to 
load the page with-in SM.


Walter, have a look back through the posts here, and look for a thread 
called Constant crash on PDF links about 5-6 days ago. Could have an 
answer for you.


HTH

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Re: blank page when reading pdf file

2010-04-06 Thread Phillip Jones

Arne wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 4/5/10 9:14 AM, Walter wrote:

I click on a pdf file and adobe reader loads it ok. directly behind it
is a blank page. shouldn't it be the page from which I came? with the
link to the pdf page?
Walter.


I get this sometimes when the link is actually for JavaScript.  The
script tries to launch a new page (which in my case becomes a new tab)
as it fetches the PDF file.  It seems that the script actually downloads
another script (new page) that, in turn, gets the PDF file.  Obviously,
if this is what is happening, it's a poorly designed Web site.


In my opinion there is no need at all for SM to open a blank tab/page
when it's the PDF reader that is launched, no matter how the web page
is designed! Why not just open the PDF reader?

I don't think it necessarily is supposed to. On occasion, when SeaMonkey 
crashes for whatever reason it goes to a Blank Home page the only way to 
cure is go to your homepage. then go to Preferences (in Macintosh - 
called something else in Widows/Linux/UNIX)  then To Browser clear out 
what ever you have set as home page and click on Use current page) this 
will fix it until next crash. Possibly the same mechanism the screws up 
then is screwing up when you call a PDF and the only PDF viewer from 
within SM or ThunderBird for that matter, that works is called PDF 
Browser Plugin by Schubert of Germany.


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Re: blank page when reading pdf file

2010-04-06 Thread J. Weaver Jr.

Phillip Jones wrote:

Arne wrote:

 David E. Ross wrote:

 On 4/5/10 9:14 AM, Walter wrote:

 I click on a pdf file and adobe reader loads it ok. directly behind it
 is a blank page. shouldn't it be the page from which I came? with the
 link to the pdf page?
 Walter.


 I get this sometimes when the link is actually for JavaScript.  The
 script tries to launch a new page (which in my case becomes a new tab)
 as it fetches the PDF file.  It seems that the script actually downloads
 another script (new page) that, in turn, gets the PDF file.  Obviously,
 if this is what is happening, it's a poorly designed Web site.


 In my opinion there is no need at all for SM to open a blank tab/page
 when it's the PDF reader that is launched, no matter how the web page
 is designed! Why not just open the PDF reader?


I don't think it necessarily is supposed to. On occasion, when SeaMonkey
crashes for whatever reason it goes to a Blank Home page the only way to
cure is go to your homepage. then go to Preferences (in Macintosh -
called something else in Widows/Linux/UNIX)  then To Browser clear out
what ever you have set as home page and click on Use current page) this
will fix it until next crash. Possibly the same mechanism the screws up
then is screwing up when you call a PDF and the only PDF viewer from
within SM or ThunderBird for that matter, that works is called PDF
Browser Plugin by Schubert of Germany.



There's no crash involved with this, though - it's just this extra, 
blank page that opens up while the PDF is downloading and before 
whatever external PDF reader is called, and which stays open and blank, 
even after the PDF reader is exited.


It's not a crash, and it's really only cumbersome to the extent that 
it requires one click on the X to close it away, but it's still a bug. 
 -JW

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Re: blank page when reading pdf file

2010-04-06 Thread David E. Ross
On 4/6/10 2:40 AM, Arne wrote:
 David E. Ross wrote:
 On 4/5/10 9:14 AM, Walter wrote:
 I click on a pdf file and adobe reader loads it ok. directly behind it
 is a blank page. shouldn't it be the page from which I came? with the
 link to the pdf page?
 Walter.

 I get this sometimes when the link is actually for JavaScript.  The
 script tries to launch a new page (which in my case becomes a new tab)
 as it fetches the PDF file.  It seems that the script actually downloads
 another script (new page) that, in turn, gets the PDF file.  Obviously,
 if this is what is happening, it's a poorly designed Web site.
 
 In my opinion there is no need at all for SM to open a blank tab/page 
 when it's the PDF reader that is launched, no matter how the web page 
 is designed! Why not just open the PDF reader?
 

It's not the launching of the PDF reader that throws up the blank page.
 It's the JavaScript that thinks the PDF file will be viewed in a
browser window.  However, the PDF file is served by a MIME type that
instead requires a separate PDF reader.  As I said before, it's the
result of a poorly designed Web page.

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Re: blank page when reading pdf file

2010-04-06 Thread Arne

David E. Ross wrote:

On 4/6/10 2:40 AM, Arne wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 4/5/10 9:14 AM, Walter wrote:

I click on a pdf file and adobe reader loads it ok. directly behind it
is a blank page. shouldn't it be the page from which I came? with the
link to the pdf page?
Walter.


I get this sometimes when the link is actually for JavaScript.  The
script tries to launch a new page (which in my case becomes a new tab)
as it fetches the PDF file.  It seems that the script actually downloads
another script (new page) that, in turn, gets the PDF file.  Obviously,
if this is what is happening, it's a poorly designed Web site.


In my opinion there is no need at all for SM to open a blank tab/page
when it's the PDF reader that is launched, no matter how the web page
is designed! Why not just open the PDF reader?



It's not the launching of the PDF reader that throws up the blank page.
  It's the JavaScript that thinks the PDF file will be viewed in a
browser window.  However, the PDF file is served by a MIME type that
instead requires a separate PDF reader.  As I said before, it's the
result of a poorly designed Web page.


Okay, then give me a link to a site with downloadable PDF-files where 
this don't happen. Sure there must be at least one you have found, and 
even that would be one more than I know about.


I have also still to find a PDF file that *requires* a separate PDF 
reader. Only in IE (v.8) I have no clue how to prevent PDF's from 
opening within the browser window, but since I don't use IE I don't 
care. ;)


I believe it is the code within SM that cause this, not the site. When 
SM can't decide if the pref settings are set to open within the SM 
tab/page or within the stand alone PDF reader.


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Re: blank page when reading pdf file

2010-04-06 Thread Beauregard T. Shagnasty
Arne wrote:

 David E. Ross wrote:
 On 4/6/10 2:40 AM, Arne wrote:
 David E. Ross wrote:
 On 4/5/10 9:14 AM, Walter wrote:
 I click on a pdf file and adobe reader loads it ok. directly
 behind it is a blank page. shouldn't it be the page from which I
 came? with the link to the pdf page?
 
 I get this sometimes when the link is actually for JavaScript. 
 The script tries to launch a new page (which in my case becomes a
 new tab) as it fetches the PDF file.  It seems that the script
 actually downloads another script (new page) that, in turn, gets
 the PDF file.  Obviously, if this is what is happening, it's a
 poorly designed Web site.
 
 In my opinion there is no need at all for SM to open a blank
 tab/page when it's the PDF reader that is launched, no matter how
 the web page is designed! Why not just open the PDF reader?
 
 It's not the launching of the PDF reader that throws up the blank
 page. It's the JavaScript that thinks the PDF file will be viewed in
 a browser window.  However, the PDF file is served by a MIME type
 that instead requires a separate PDF reader.  As I said before, it's
 the result of a poorly designed Web page.
 
 Okay, then give me a link to a site with downloadable PDF-files where
 this don't happen. Sure there must be at least one you have found,
 and even that would be one more than I know about.

I publish monthly newsletters for a club website which the editor
supplies in PDF format. My pages use simple links to the files:

   a href=../news/news201003.pdfMarch 2010/a

and no 'extra tab or window' is opened by SeaMonkey, Firefox, Opera.
When I click on the link, I get a dialog asking if I want to Open or
Download. Choosing Open loads it in my default PDF reader Evince. No new
tabs in the browsers.

I'd let you test, except these are in a passworded members only portion
of the web site.

 I have also still to find a PDF file that *requires* a separate PDF
 reader. Only in IE (v.8) I have no clue how to prevent PDF's from
 opening within the browser window, but since I don't use IE I don't
 care. ;) 

Tell IE to remove the PDF file association?

 I believe it is the code within SM that cause this, not the site.
 When SM can't decide if the pref settings are set to open within the
 SM tab/page or within the stand alone PDF reader.

I think it is the individual coding of the page containing the link.
Regardless of browser.



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Re: blank page when reading pdf file

2010-04-06 Thread Walter



Daniel wrote:

Walter wrote:

I click on a pdf file and adobe reader loads it ok. directly behind it
is a blank page. shouldn't it be the page from which I came? with the
link to the pdf page?
Walter.


Walter, it can be done either of two ways, one loading Adobe Reader as a
separate program and the other using Adobe Reader as a helper program to
load the page with-in SM.

Walter, have a look back through the posts here, and look for a thread
called Constant crash on PDF links about 5-6 days ago. Could have an
answer for you.

HTH

Daniel


Daniel,

I did look at the posts in constant crash on PDF links but did not 
find the problem mentioned there. As I explained in my original post, 
when I invoke the adobe reader then load the file I get NO blank page. 
It is only when I click on the pdf file and SM calls adobe reader, then 
the blank page is behind the pdf display.


By the way, this has showed up after I downloaded and installed SM 2.0.3.

walte.
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Re: blank page when reading pdf file

2010-04-06 Thread David E. Ross
On 4/6/10 8:37 AM, Arne wrote:
 David E. Ross wrote:
 On 4/6/10 2:40 AM, Arne wrote:
 David E. Ross wrote:
 On 4/5/10 9:14 AM, Walter wrote:
 I click on a pdf file and adobe reader loads it ok. directly behind it
 is a blank page. shouldn't it be the page from which I came? with the
 link to the pdf page?
 Walter.

 I get this sometimes when the link is actually for JavaScript.  The
 script tries to launch a new page (which in my case becomes a new tab)
 as it fetches the PDF file.  It seems that the script actually downloads
 another script (new page) that, in turn, gets the PDF file.  Obviously,
 if this is what is happening, it's a poorly designed Web site.

 In my opinion there is no need at all for SM to open a blank tab/page
 when it's the PDF reader that is launched, no matter how the web page
 is designed! Why not just open the PDF reader?


 It's not the launching of the PDF reader that throws up the blank page.
   It's the JavaScript that thinks the PDF file will be viewed in a
 browser window.  However, the PDF file is served by a MIME type that
 instead requires a separate PDF reader.  As I said before, it's the
 result of a poorly designed Web page.
 
 Okay, then give me a link to a site with downloadable PDF-files where 
 this don't happen. Sure there must be at least one you have found, and 
 even that would be one more than I know about.
 
 I have also still to find a PDF file that *requires* a separate PDF 
 reader. Only in IE (v.8) I have no clue how to prevent PDF's from 
 opening within the browser window, but since I don't use IE I don't 
 care. ;)
 
 I believe it is the code within SM that cause this, not the site. When 
 SM can't decide if the pref settings are set to open within the SM 
 tab/page or within the stand alone PDF reader.
 

Go to my http://www.rossde.com/garden/public_gardens.html.  Scroll
down to Hampton Court Palace, Surrey, England, UK.  Select the link
gardens in the phrase we found the formal gardens.  For SeaMonkey
2.0.4, this PDF file opens within my browser using the Adobe Reader
plugin nppdf32.dll.

Besides the JavaScript situation, other causes of this opening in Adobe
Reader itself are:

*  You are missing the plugin.  On the SeaMonkey menu bar, select
[Help  About Plugins].  On the resulting page, check to make sure that
you see nppdf32.dll.

*  The PDF file is being incorrectly served by the Web server.  It
should be served as application/pdf.  In my setup, a PDF file served as
application/x-pdf will instead open in Adobe Reader itself; I'm not sure
of why there is a distinction.  You can see how a link is served if you
have the LiveHTTPHeaders extension installed in SeaMonkey.

*  Your setup requests PDF files to be opened in Adobe Reader itself.
To see what your setup is for this, select [Edit  Preferences] on the
SeaMonkey menu bar.  On the left side of the Preferences window, under
Category, select [Browser  Helper Applications].  The Helper
Applications pane may show several entries for Adobe; to see the
differences in these entries, either stretch the window horizontally or
place your cursor over an entry to get a tooltip.  In my setup, there
are six entries: four of them result in opening the file within
SeaMonkey, one results in opening the file in Adobe Reader itself, and
one asks the user how the file is to be handled.  Three depend on the
file-type indicated by the file extension, and three depend on how the
file is served.

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Re: blank page when reading pdf file

2010-04-06 Thread Phillip Jones

Arne wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 4/6/10 2:40 AM, Arne wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 4/5/10 9:14 AM, Walter wrote:

I click on a pdf file and adobe reader loads it ok. directly behind it
is a blank page. shouldn't it be the page from which I came? with the
link to the pdf page?
Walter.


I get this sometimes when the link is actually for JavaScript.  The
script tries to launch a new page (which in my case becomes a new tab)
as it fetches the PDF file.  It seems that the script actually downloads
another script (new page) that, in turn, gets the PDF file.  Obviously,
if this is what is happening, it's a poorly designed Web site.


In my opinion there is no need at all for SM to open a blank tab/page
when it's the PDF reader that is launched, no matter how the web page
is designed! Why not just open the PDF reader?



It's not the launching of the PDF reader that throws up the blank page.
   It's the JavaScript that thinks the PDF file will be viewed in a
browser window.  However, the PDF file is served by a MIME type that
instead requires a separate PDF reader.  As I said before, it's the
result of a poorly designed Web page.


Okay, then give me a link to a site with downloadable PDF-files where
this don't happen. Sure there must be at least one you have found, and
even that would be one more than I know about.

I have also still to find a PDF file that *requires* a separate PDF
reader. Only in IE (v.8) I have no clue how to prevent PDF's from
opening within the browser window, but since I don't use IE I don't
care. ;)

I believe it is the code within SM that cause this, not the site. When
SM can't decide if the pref settings are set to open within the SM
tab/page or within the stand alone PDF reader.

How about trying the Family Tree files I have on my website. I use PDF's 
extensively I just link to to them I have the files loaded on my 
website. they will either open with a PDFViewer such as adobe's for 
Safari. Or in a PDF Browser Plugin from Schubert for anything else 
except  for a PDF viewer such as Acrobat Reader, or equivalent.


I don't use java or javascript.

http://www.phillipmjones.net

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Re: blank page when reading pdf file

2010-04-06 Thread J. Weaver Jr.

Phillip Jones wrote:

Arne wrote:

 David E. Ross wrote:

 On 4/6/10 2:40 AM, Arne wrote:

 David E. Ross wrote:

 On 4/5/10 9:14 AM, Walter wrote:

 I click on a pdf file and adobe reader loads it ok. directly behind it
 is a blank page. shouldn't it be the page from which I came? with the
 link to the pdf page?
 Walter.


 I get this sometimes when the link is actually for JavaScript.  The
 script tries to launch a new page (which in my case becomes a new tab)
 as it fetches the PDF file.  It seems that the script actually downloads
 another script (new page) that, in turn, gets the PDF file.  Obviously,
 if this is what is happening, it's a poorly designed Web site.


 In my opinion there is no need at all for SM to open a blank tab/page
 when it's the PDF reader that is launched, no matter how the web page
 is designed! Why not just open the PDF reader?



 It's not the launching of the PDF reader that throws up the blank page.
It's the JavaScript that thinks the PDF file will be viewed in a
 browser window.  However, the PDF file is served by a MIME type that
 instead requires a separate PDF reader.  As I said before, it's the
 result of a poorly designed Web page.


 Okay, then give me a link to a site with downloadable PDF-files where
 this don't happen. Sure there must be at least one you have found, and
 even that would be one more than I know about.

 I have also still to find a PDF file that *requires* a separate PDF
 reader. Only in IE (v.8) I have no clue how to prevent PDF's from
 opening within the browser window, but since I don't use IE I don't
 care. ;)

 I believe it is the code within SM that cause this, not the site. When
 SM can't decide if the pref settings are set to open within the SM
 tab/page or within the stand alone PDF reader.


How about trying the Family Tree files I have on my website. I use PDF's
extensively I just link to to them I have the files loaded on my
website. they will either open with a PDFViewer such as adobe's for
Safari. Or in a PDF Browser Plugin from Schubert for anything else
except  for a PDF viewer such as Acrobat Reader, or equivalent.

I don't use java or javascript.

http://www.phillipmjones.net



Both the Ross and Jones PDF files open on my SM 2.0.4 _without_ 
triggering the superfluous blank window.  -JW

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Re: blank page when reading pdf file

2010-04-06 Thread Hartmut Figge
J. Weaver Jr.:

Both the Ross and Jones PDF files open on my SM 2.0.4 _without_ 
triggering the superfluous blank window.  -JW

Some more examples:
http://www.triffids.de/pub/spiele/bard/bard3/maps/

Hartmut
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Re: blank page when reading pdf file

2010-04-06 Thread JAS
Hartmut Figge wrote:
 J. Weaver Jr.:

   
 Both the Ross and Jones PDF files open on my SM 2.0.4 _without_ 
 triggering the superfluous blank window.  -JW
 
 Some more examples:
 http://www.triffids.de/pub/spiele/bard/bard3/maps/

 Hartmut
   
Using SM 2.0.4 and I have Foxit reader as default PDF reader--David's
garden link opens in a new tab in my browser, both Phillips and Hartmut
invoke the Foxit reader externally and leave a blank tab in the browser.

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Re: blank page when reading pdf file

2010-04-06 Thread Phillip Jones

Phillip Jones wrote:

Arne wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 4/6/10 2:40 AM, Arne wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 4/5/10 9:14 AM, Walter wrote:

I click on a pdf file and adobe reader loads it ok. directly behind it
is a blank page. shouldn't it be the page from which I came? with the
link to the pdf page?
Walter.


I get this sometimes when the link is actually for JavaScript.  The
script tries to launch a new page (which in my case becomes a new tab)
as it fetches the PDF file.  It seems that the script actually downloads
another script (new page) that, in turn, gets the PDF file.  Obviously,
if this is what is happening, it's a poorly designed Web site.


In my opinion there is no need at all for SM to open a blank tab/page
when it's the PDF reader that is launched, no matter how the web page
is designed! Why not just open the PDF reader?



It's not the launching of the PDF reader that throws up the blank page.
It's the JavaScript that thinks the PDF file will be viewed in a
browser window.  However, the PDF file is served by a MIME type that
instead requires a separate PDF reader.  As I said before, it's the
result of a poorly designed Web page.


Okay, then give me a link to a site with downloadable PDF-files where
this don't happen. Sure there must be at least one you have found, and
even that would be one more than I know about.

I have also still to find a PDF file that *requires* a separate PDF
reader. Only in IE (v.8) I have no clue how to prevent PDF's from
opening within the browser window, but since I don't use IE I don't
care. ;)

I believe it is the code within SM that cause this, not the site. When
SM can't decide if the pref settings are set to open within the SM
tab/page or within the stand alone PDF reader.


How about trying the Family Tree files I have on my website. I use PDF's
extensively I just link to to them I have the files loaded on my
website. they will either open with a PDFViewer such as adobe's for
Safari. Or in a PDF Browser Plugin from Schubert for anything else
except  for a PDF viewer such as Acrobat Reader, or equivalent.

I don't use java or javascript.

http://www.phillipmjones.net



I messed this up: and correcting below:

How about trying the Family Tree files I have on my website. I use PDF's 
extensively I just link to to them I have the files loaded on my 
website. they will either open with a PDFViewer such as adobe's for 
Safari. Or in a PDF Browser Plugin from Schubert for anything else 
except  for *IE*. Or, a PDF viewer such as Acrobat Reader, or equivalent.


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Re: blank page when reading pdf file

2010-04-06 Thread Phillip Jones

JAS wrote:

Hartmut Figge wrote:

J. Weaver Jr.:



Both the Ross and Jones PDF files open on my SM 2.0.4 _without_
triggering the superfluous blank window.  -JW


Some more examples:
http://www.triffids.de/pub/spiele/bard/bard3/maps/

Hartmut


Using SM 2.0.4 and I have Foxit reader as default PDF reader--David's
garden link opens in a new tab in my browser, both Phillips and Hartmut
invoke the Foxit reader externally and leave a blank tab in the browser.



How I have mine setup in my site I've uploaded the PDF's then when you 
click a Link the link goes to the pdf where ever its location might be.


I guess that's an argument against the using Tabs. :-)

Maybe something is set wrong in your Preference setting (Preference is 
term used in Macintosh. whatever your settings adjustment might be).


http://www.phillipmjones.net/Tabssettings.png

Now I have tabs turned off but the others settings should apply.

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Re: blank page when reading pdf file

2010-04-05 Thread J. Weaver Jr.

Walter wrote:

I click on a pdf file and adobe reader loads it ok. directly behind it
is a blank page. shouldn't it be the page from which I came? with the
link to the pdf page?


I use Foxit Reader (instead of Adobe), but I get the same thing: a blank 
page with the URL of the PDF file in the address field, and then the 
Reader with the actual PDF file.  -JW

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Re: blank page when reading pdf file

2010-04-05 Thread David E. Ross
On 4/5/10 9:14 AM, Walter wrote:
 I click on a pdf file and adobe reader loads it ok. directly behind it 
 is a blank page. shouldn't it be the page from which I came? with the 
 link to the pdf page?
 Walter.

I get this sometimes when the link is actually for JavaScript.  The
script tries to launch a new page (which in my case becomes a new tab)
as it fetches the PDF file.  It seems that the script actually downloads
another script (new page) that, in turn, gets the PDF file.  Obviously,
if this is what is happening, it's a poorly designed Web site.

The Web site for Vanguard Mutual Funds often exhibits this problem.  I
can tell as I navigate through that site that there are indeed scripts
that cause other scripts to be downloaded when links are requested
rather than when the page containing the script is downloaded.  There
are also scripts on that site that wait until the entire page has
downloaded and then request additional scripts, freezing the page while
the newer downloads occur.  Of course, this is most visible with a
dial-up connection; but even with broadband, there is a momentary freeze
while the new scripts execute.

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Go to Mozdev at http://www.mozdev.org/ for quick access to
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Mozilla-related applications.  You can access Mozdev much
more quickly than you can Mozilla Add-Ons.
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