Re: what is Personal Security Manager ?
Barry Edwin Gilmour wrote: »Q« wrote: Innews:4vkdnzcywdd-vytxnz2dnuvz_vudn...@mozilla.org, Barry Edwin Gilmourbarry.gilm...@bigpond.com wrote: This files contents can then be displayed and altered by typing about:config in the browsers address bar. No. about:config displays *all* of the preferences, and edits many-more preferences than just the few listed in the contents of prefs.js.. Not all. E.g., CAPS policy prefs won't show up there. http://www.mozilla.org/projects/security/components/ConfigPolicy.html Missed that lot! Wow! SeaMonkey's preference-settings are in either or both prefs.js and about:config, thus both need to be searched. I did not know why they have choiced to put similar thing in more than one place ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: what is Personal Security Manager ?
Ray_Net wrote: Barry Edwin Gilmour wrote: »Q« wrote: Innews:4vkdnzcywdd-vytxnz2dnuvz_vudn...@mozilla.org, Barry Edwin Gilmourbarry.gilm...@bigpond.com wrote: This files contents can then be displayed and altered by typing about:config in the browsers address bar. No. about:config displays *all* of the preferences, and edits many-more preferences than just the few listed in the contents of prefs.js.. Not all. E.g., CAPS policy prefs won't show up there. http://www.mozilla.org/projects/security/components/ConfigPolicy.html Missed that lot! Wow! SeaMonkey's preference-settings are in either or both prefs.js and about:config, thus both need to be searched. I did not know why they have choiced to put similar thing in more than one place As my response of a couple of days ago suggests, I thought they were all accessible via prefs.js!! Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: what is Personal Security Manager ?
Nelson Bolyard wrote: horst39 wrote, On 2009-05-10 02:33 PDT: On 09.05.2009 19:44, NoOp wrote: Before moving everything, I'd fire up the test profile, then in about:config check for 'security' and compare the settngs (taking screenshots is probably the easiest). Could be that you inadvertently changed a setting from default changing it back may resolve the issue. You are right: there are about 10 additional security in my new profile. But it is not easy to understand what each line means, even looking at the Mozilla KB (not all are described here). Further the impossibility to print or copy the about:config doesn't simplify the problem. about:config shows you all your preference strings (prefs for short). Each pref consists of a long name and a value. Many (most) of your prefs will have the default value, meaning the value that SeaMonkey puts into a brand-new profile, and stays there if you don't change it. Some prefs will have a user set value (a value that you changed from the default, probably by making a configuration change in the preferences dialogs). The user set values are generally displayed in bold, and show the words user set in the status column. All the prefs are strings of ordinary printable characters. about:config shows you that some are strings, others are boolean or integer, but boolean and integer are merely restrictions on the format and content of the strings. In your profile directory is a file named prefs.js. That file contains all your user set prefs, and none of the default prefs. The file is just text. You can print it with notepad (on windows) or any other program that will print plain text files. The prefs are kept in alphabetical order. Almost right, Nelson. All the prefs are contained in a file called prefs.js. This files contents can then be displayed and altered by typing about:config in the browsers address bar. Another way you can alter the prefs is to write the pref you wish to change into a text file called user.js. Then, when you next start SeaMonkey, these changes will be incorporated, safely, into your prefs.js file. Daniel If you open it in an editor of some kind, you should avoid saving/writing the file back to disk. An editor may change your prefs.js file in a way that will ruin it. You can back it up and restore it, of course. Avoid the temptation to copy it from one system to another or from one profile to another, because it contains directory names that are unique to each profile. If you put a prefs.js file in the wrong profile, that will be a serious problem for both the profile in which you put it, and the profile in which it really belongs. By the way, in your profile directory are three files whose names end in .db (on Windows). If PSM won't start, odds are good that something bad has happened to one of those files. So, before you go and create a whole new profile, try restoring just those 3 files from a backup. Of course, be sure your browser is not running when you do that. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: what is Personal Security Manager ?
Daniel wrote: Nelson Bolyard wrote: horst39 wrote, On 2009-05-10 02:33 PDT: On 09.05.2009 19:44, NoOp wrote: Before moving everything, I'd fire up the test profile, then in about:config check for 'security' and compare the settngs (taking screenshots is probably the easiest). Could be that you inadvertently changed a setting from default changing it back may resolve the issue. You are right: there are about 10 additional security in my new profile. But it is not easy to understand what each line means, even looking at the Mozilla KB (not all are described here). Further the impossibility to print or copy the about:config doesn't simplify the problem. about:config shows you all your preference strings (prefs for short). Each pref consists of a long name and a value. Many (most) of your prefs will have the default value, meaning the value that SeaMonkey puts into a brand-new profile, and stays there if you don't change it. Some prefs will have a user set value (a value that you changed from the default, probably by making a configuration change in the preferences dialogs). The user set values are generally displayed in bold, and show the words user set in the status column. All the prefs are strings of ordinary printable characters. about:config shows you that some are strings, others are boolean or integer, but boolean and integer are merely restrictions on the format and content of the strings. In your profile directory is a file named prefs.js. That file contains all your user set prefs, and none of the default prefs. The file is just text. You can print it with notepad (on windows) or any other program that will print plain text files. The prefs are kept in alphabetical order. Almost right, Nelson. Nelson, *some* of the default preference-settings *are* appearing in the prefs.js, but most default-preferences do not. All the prefs are contained in a file called prefs.js. No. All of the preferences are in the about:config as Nelson has stated. This files contents can then be displayed and altered by typing about:config in the browsers address bar. No. about:config displays *all* of the preferences, and edits many-more preferences than just the few listed in the contents of prefs.js.. My current prefs.js lists 887 preference-settings, whereas my about:config lists many thousands of preference-settings (based on comparison of the size of my prefs.js scroll-bar, which is about 7-times as-long as my about:config scroll-bar, using same-size text and windows). Unfortunately, my current about:config can't be saved, printed, copied, or migrated to something which can precisely-count the number of preference-lines, so I can't give a precise number, but the relative scroll-bar size-difference says it all. By way of example, in my first-five about:config default-preferences, the first four default-preferences are omitted from prefs.js:- accessibility.accesskeycausesactivation accessibility.browsewithcaret accessibility.tabfocus accessibility.tabfocus_applies_to_xul with only the fifth default-preference - accessibility.typeaheadfind actually getting itself included within prefs.js.. Heh! I just noted that the sixth about:config default-preference ~ accessibility.typeaheadfind.casesensitive also doesn't appear in prefs.js, and you might expect that particular-preference child to be included in the prefs.js file, if the parent is getting included. That is pretty-much the state-of-play between about:config and prefs.js. Another way you can alter the prefs is to write the pref you wish to change into a text file called user.js. Then, when you next start SeaMonkey, these changes will be incorporated, safely, into your prefs.js file. I haven't used that method in a while, so can't comment. Daniel If you open it in an editor of some kind, you should avoid saving/writing the file back to disk. An editor may change your prefs.js file in a way that will ruin it. Very true. There are some woeful editors around, and the about:config editing works fine. You can back it up and restore it, of course. Avoid the temptation to copy it from one system to another or from one profile to another, because it contains directory names that are unique to each profile. If you put a prefs.js file in the wrong profile, that will be a serious problem for both the profile in which you put it, and the profile in which it really belongs. By the way, in your profile directory are three files whose names end in .db (on Windows). If PSM won't start, odds are good that something bad has happened to one of those files. So, before you go and create a whole new profile, try restoring just those 3 files from a backup. Of course, be sure your browser is not running when you do that. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: what is Personal Security Manager ?
In news:4vkdnzcywdd-vytxnz2dnuvz_vudn...@mozilla.org, Barry Edwin Gilmour barry.gilm...@bigpond.com wrote: This files contents can then be displayed and altered by typing about:config in the browsers address bar. No. about:config displays *all* of the preferences, and edits many-more preferences than just the few listed in the contents of prefs.js.. Not all. E.g., CAPS policy prefs won't show up there. http://www.mozilla.org/projects/security/components/ConfigPolicy.html -- »Q« /\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign \ / against html e-mailX http://asciiribbon.org/ / \ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: what is Personal Security Manager ?
»Q« wrote: Innews:4vkdnzcywdd-vytxnz2dnuvz_vudn...@mozilla.org, Barry Edwin Gilmourbarry.gilm...@bigpond.com wrote: This files contents can then be displayed and altered by typing about:config in the browsers address bar. No. about:config displays *all* of the preferences, and edits many-more preferences than just the few listed in the contents of prefs.js.. Not all. E.g., CAPS policy prefs won't show up there. http://www.mozilla.org/projects/security/components/ConfigPolicy.html Missed that lot! Wow! SeaMonkey's preference-settings are in either or both prefs.js and about:config, thus both need to be searched. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: what is Personal Security Manager ?
horst39 wrote, On 2009-05-10 02:33 PDT: On 09.05.2009 19:44, NoOp wrote: Before moving everything, I'd fire up the test profile, then in about:config check for 'security' and compare the settngs (taking screenshots is probably the easiest). Could be that you inadvertently changed a setting from default changing it back may resolve the issue. You are right: there are about 10 additional security in my new profile. But it is not easy to understand what each line means, even looking at the Mozilla KB (not all are described here). Further the impossibility to print or copy the about:config doesn't simplify the problem. about:config shows you all your preference strings (prefs for short). Each pref consists of a long name and a value. Many (most) of your prefs will have the default value, meaning the value that SeaMonkey puts into a brand-new profile, and stays there if you don't change it. Some prefs will have a user set value (a value that you changed from the default, probably by making a configuration change in the preferences dialogs). The user set values are generally displayed in bold, and show the words user set in the status column. All the prefs are strings of ordinary printable characters. about:config shows you that some are strings, others are boolean or integer, but boolean and integer are merely restrictions on the format and content of the strings. In your profile directory is a file named prefs.js. That file contains all your user set prefs, and none of the default prefs. The file is just text. You can print it with notepad (on windows) or any other program that will print plain text files. The prefs are kept in alphabetical order. If you open it in an editor of some kind, you should avoid saving/writing the file back to disk. An editor may change your prefs.js file in a way that will ruin it. You can back it up and restore it, of course. Avoid the temptation to copy it from one system to another or from one profile to another, because it contains directory names that are unique to each profile. If you put a prefs.js file in the wrong profile, that will be a serious problem for both the profile in which you put it, and the profile in which it really belongs. By the way, in your profile directory are three files whose names end in .db (on Windows). If PSM won't start, odds are good that something bad has happened to one of those files. So, before you go and create a whole new profile, try restoring just those 3 files from a backup. Of course, be sure your browser is not running when you do that. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: what is Personal Security Manager ?
On 09.05.2009 19:44, NoOp wrote: On 05/09/2009 01:51 AM, horst39 wrote: I think it's a good bet that's it. Horst, once you check your firewall settings, you can test whether SM is using the PSM by going to http://browserspy.dk/psm.php. Thank you all for your help. It is NOT a firewall but a profile issue. This means that this weekend will be spent for recreating a new profile (I have many mail and news accounts and personalized extensions!) And weather report tells it will be a beautiful weekend! Sigh! Horst Before moving everything, I'd fire up the test profile, then in about:config check for 'security' and compare the settngs (taking screenshots is probably the easiest). Could be that you inadvertently changed a setting from default changing it back may resolve the issue. You are right: there are about 10 additional security in my new profile. But it is not easy to understand what each line means, even looking at the Mozilla KB (not all are described here). Further the impossibility to print or copy the about:config doesn't simplify the problem. Therefore I started replacing the chrome directory with the backup of a week ago, and it worked! I will never know why the problem happened, but at least it has been solved! Thank you all for your suggestions. Horst ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: what is Personal Security Manager ?
Ray_Net wrote: I did not have any problem, but trying http://browserspy.dk/psm.php give me: Personal Security Manager version 2.4 Algorithms available None or unable to detect Algorithms available detailed None or unable to detect! Strange ... isn't it ? Seems to be normal with current browser versions. Robert Kaiser ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: what is Personal Security Manager ?
»Q« wrote: In news:p8sdnwcbb_4nv5nxnz2dnuvz_qcdn...@mozilla.org, NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net.invalid wrote: On 05/08/2009 03:18 PM, horst39 wrote: Suddenly since a few days on some sites (which I have used hundreds of times before without problems) I suddenly get following message: Incorrect Response This document cannot be displayed unless you install the Personal Security Manager (PSM). Download and install PSM and try again, or contact your system administrator. The site responded to the network request in an unexpected way and the browser cannot continue. Are you running ZoneAlarm or some other software firewall? Possibly this is the problem: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey1.1.16/known-issues quote Security ... On Windows, some software firewalls may block SeaMonkey from properly accessing the Internet. If SeaMonkey is not working properly, check that your firewall settings allows SeaMonkey to connect to the net. If your receive a warning from ZoneAlarm that SeaMonkey attempts to set itself up as a local server, it is due to SeaMonkey communicating with Personal Security Manager (PSM) which is required to access secure Web and mail servers, and you should allow SeaMonkey access. /quote I think it's a good bet that's it. Horst, once you check your firewall settings, you can test whether SM is using the PSM by going to http://browserspy.dk/psm.php. I did not have any problem, but trying http://browserspy.dk/psm.php give me: Personal Security Manager version 2.4 Algorithms availableNone or unable to detect Algorithms available detailed None or unable to detect! Strange ... isn't it ? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: what is Personal Security Manager ?
On 05/09/2009 01:51 AM, horst39 wrote: I think it's a good bet that's it. Horst, once you check your firewall settings, you can test whether SM is using the PSM by going to http://browserspy.dk/psm.php. Thank you all for your help. It is NOT a firewall but a profile issue. This means that this weekend will be spent for recreating a new profile (I have many mail and news accounts and personalized extensions!) And weather report tells it will be a beautiful weekend! Sigh! Horst Before moving everything, I'd fire up the test profile, then in about:config check for 'security' and compare the settngs (taking screenshots is probably the easiest). Could be that you inadvertently changed a setting from default changing it back may resolve the issue. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: what is Personal Security Manager ?
On 05/08/09 15:18, horst39 wrote: Suddenly since a few days on some sites (which I have used hundreds of times before without problems) I suddenly get following message: Incorrect Response This document cannot be displayed unless you install the Personal Security Manager (PSM). Download and install PSM and try again, or contact your system administrator. The site responded to the network request in an unexpected way and the browser cannot continue. It seems that PSM is a program needed for Netscape 6 and Communicator 4. But I'm using SM 1.1.16 ! The above message appears in following sites: http://www.google.com/preferences?hl=en (at the end of the page) https://addons.mozilla.org/seamonkey/ Does this happen to me only? What do you suggest me to do? Horst I didn't have problems at either of those sites. I'm running SeaMonkey 1.1.16 on Linux (CentOS 5.3). I would suspect there's a problem with your profile. I think you should try creating a test profile and see if the problem persists when using that. Best Regards, ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: what is Personal Security Manager ?
On 05/08/2009 03:18 PM, horst39 wrote: Suddenly since a few days on some sites (which I have used hundreds of times before without problems) I suddenly get following message: Incorrect Response This document cannot be displayed unless you install the Personal Security Manager (PSM). Download and install PSM and try again, or contact your system administrator. The site responded to the network request in an unexpected way and the browser cannot continue. It seems that PSM is a program needed for Netscape 6 and Communicator 4. But I'm using SM 1.1.16 ! The above message appears in following sites: http://www.google.com/preferences?hl=en (at the end of the page) https://addons.mozilla.org/seamonkey/ Does this happen to me only? What do you suggest me to do? Horst Are you running ZoneAlarm or some other software firewall? Possibly this is the problem: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey1.1.16/known-issues quote Security ... On Windows, some software firewalls may block SeaMonkey from properly accessing the Internet. If SeaMonkey is not working properly, check that your firewall settings allows SeaMonkey to connect to the net. If your receive a warning from ZoneAlarm that SeaMonkey attempts to set itself up as a local server, it is due to SeaMonkey communicating with Personal Security Manager (PSM) which is required to access secure Web and mail servers, and you should allow SeaMonkey access. /quote ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
