Re: SeaMonkey email headers when printing
Desiree wrote, On 12/03/2012 01:04: Ray_Nettbrraymond.schmit...@tbrscarlet.be wrote in message news:urqdnzkqgujpwmhsnz2dnuvz_qydn...@mozilla.org... Desiree wrote, On 11/03/2012 08:53: questiontr...@try.biz wrote in message news:l-qdnuc4vu47kshsnz2dnuvz_rqdn...@mozilla.org... Desiree wrote: How do I stop the printing of all the ridiculous headers that take up ALMOST ONE PAGE and are printed in BOLD TEXT thus wasting ink? Why does SM Mail print all that junk? Besides all the irrelevant headers, it also printed ALMOST THE ENTIRE MESSAGE OF THREE PAGES in BOLD wasting even more ink! I just needed a record of my reservation. I didn't need all the other junk printed nor did I need any of it in bold text. OE would never waste ink like this or print almost an entire page of irrelevant headers. I removed this email address from OE long ago (and meant to completely kill it), but I never did and sometimes I get relevant mail in it. SM still has it so that is why I didn't print from OE. This is probably the first email I have ever printed from SM as I rarely need to print emails. Copy The Email and Then paste it into WORD . That's a good idea. But my point is that I don't need to do that if I use OE. One of the reasons I started using SM again is because it has an email client and I will be getting a new computer soon with Win 7. The only way to continue using OE then will be via XP inside Win 7 Professional. So, I have been looking for a new email client. I would use Windows Mail reluctantly because it doesn't have Identities which is the best thing about OE but Windows Mail is not in Win 7 and I will NOT use any cloud junk. I've used Mozilla mail before it was SM but always had OE as my default mail client. As for copying to Word, I won't have Word on Win 7. I just have the words; Subject, From, Date, To in bold. ALL the rest are simple pure characters wasting no INK as you said with SM. Perhaps the guy who wrote the mail, put all his text in BOLD !!! SM is not responsible to print what he see on the screen. If so, please modify SM to have ALL your emails in *PLAIN-TEXT* mode ! All email in any email client has always been set to be read and composed in Plain Text. The email was sent in Plain Text. SeaMonkey bolds the headers and most of the body of the email was bolded. I disagree with you. Only the Header name is in bolt, the header is not bolded. There is NO bold words in the body. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey email headers when printing
Desiree wrote, On 12/03/2012 01:10: Beauregard T. Shagnastya.nony.mous@example.invalid wrote in message news:htcdnurqs7bhbchsnz2dnuvz_rkaa...@mozilla.org... Desiree wrote: As for copying to Word, I won't have Word on Win 7. Good idea. :-) If you want an office suite, perhaps you would be happy with OpenOffice or LibreOffice. Both are full suites like Microsoft Office, but free. They are also (just about) fully compatible with Word/Excel ... http://www.openoffice.org/ http://www.libreoffice.org/ I hate OpenOffice. It is extremely buggy on XP. Maybe it works better on Win 7. I haven't tried libreoffice. I will look at it. But all I really want is Word no later than 2003 version. The reason I won't have Word on Win 7 is because I won't use any version with the ribbon. I'll just have to use WordPad (or whatever it is that comes on Windows as I don't think Microsoft ruined it with the ribbon). I'll miss Word 2002 a lot. I beta tested Office 2007 and hated it. Microsoft ruined Office with that horrible ribbon junk. I'll be immediately fixing Win7 with all the crap Microsoft put on it. I will use Classic Shell to get back Classic Windows look and no stupid Aero junk for kiddies that need eye candy. The best solution for you is to use windows 3.1. with notepad. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey email headers when printing
Chris Ilias n...@ilias.ca wrote in message news:pbadnt5rlsse9sbsnz2dnuvz_vudn...@mozilla.org... On 12-03-10 4:56 AM, _Desiree_ spoke thusly: How do I stop the printing of all the ridiculous headers that take up ALMOST ONE PAGE and are printed in BOLD TEXT thus wasting ink? How many headers get printed is dependant on your setting in View--Headers. If you're using an extension like Mnenhy, the custom headers function is based on all headers view. You need to set it to Normal. For more info, see http://mnenhy.mozdev.org/installation.html#limit. -- Chris Ilias http://ilias.ca Newsgroup moderator Thanks. I always have email set to show all headers as a routine security measure. I just didn't realize it would print all of that (23 lines of headers). I'll have to try to remember to switch to normal for headers before printing and then switch back to all. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey email headers when printing
Desiree wrote, On 11/03/2012 08:53: questiontr...@try.biz wrote in message news:l-qdnuc4vu47kshsnz2dnuvz_rqdn...@mozilla.org... Desiree wrote: How do I stop the printing of all the ridiculous headers that take up ALMOST ONE PAGE and are printed in BOLD TEXT thus wasting ink? Why does SM Mail print all that junk? Besides all the irrelevant headers, it also printed ALMOST THE ENTIRE MESSAGE OF THREE PAGES in BOLD wasting even more ink! I just needed a record of my reservation. I didn't need all the other junk printed nor did I need any of it in bold text. OE would never waste ink like this or print almost an entire page of irrelevant headers. I removed this email address from OE long ago (and meant to completely kill it), but I never did and sometimes I get relevant mail in it. SM still has it so that is why I didn't print from OE. This is probably the first email I have ever printed from SM as I rarely need to print emails. Copy The Email and Then paste it into WORD . That's a good idea. But my point is that I don't need to do that if I use OE. One of the reasons I started using SM again is because it has an email client and I will be getting a new computer soon with Win 7. The only way to continue using OE then will be via XP inside Win 7 Professional. So, I have been looking for a new email client. I would use Windows Mail reluctantly because it doesn't have Identities which is the best thing about OE but Windows Mail is not in Win 7 and I will NOT use any cloud junk. I've used Mozilla mail before it was SM but always had OE as my default mail client. As for copying to Word, I won't have Word on Win 7. I just have the words; Subject, From, Date, To in bold. ALL the rest are simple pure characters wasting no INK as you said with SM. Perhaps the guy who wrote the mail, put all his text in BOLD !!! SM is not responsible to print what he see on the screen. If so, please modify SM to have ALL your emails in *PLAIN-TEXT* mode ! ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey email headers when printing
Desiree wrote: Thanks. I always have email set to show all headers as a routine security measure. Here's a suggestion: set your View Headers Normal so your display, and your printing, won't show all those lines, but when you want to check the security of the email while viewing it, press Control-U to view source, then when satisfied, press Control-W to close the source window. I just didn't realize it would print all of that (23 lines of headers). I'll have to try to remember to switch to normal for headers before printing and then switch back to all. It prints what is showing... -- -bts -This space for rent, but the price is high ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey email headers when printing
Desiree wrote: As for copying to Word, I won't have Word on Win 7. Good idea. :-) If you want an office suite, perhaps you would be happy with OpenOffice or LibreOffice. Both are full suites like Microsoft Office, but free. They are also (just about) fully compatible with Word/Excel ... http://www.openoffice.org/ http://www.libreoffice.org/ -- -bts -This space for rent, but the price is high ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey email headers when printing
Beauregard T. Shagnasty a.nony.mous@example.invalid wrote in message news:htcdnuvqs7cubchsnz2dnuvz_rmdn...@mozilla.org... Desiree wrote: Thanks. I always have email set to show all headers as a routine security measure. Here's a suggestion: set your View Headers Normal so your display, and your printing, won't show all those lines, but when you want to check the security of the email while viewing it, press Control-U to view source, then when satisfied, press Control-W to close the source window. Thank you but I am a mouse person. I would never remember those keyboard commands. I use the keyboard for typing and try to never need it for anything else. Besides, it is a security measure and security trumps SM's problem when printing. I'll just try to remember to turn off full headers if printing. I rarely print an email. It is only because I have no way of knowing how long I have before this computer dies. I am just trying to wait until Dell has Ivy Bridge processors. I just didn't realize it would print all of that (23 lines of headers). I'll have to try to remember to switch to normal for headers before printing and then switch back to all. It prints what is showing... -- -bts -This space for rent, but the price is high ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey email headers when printing
Ray_Net tbrraymond.schmit...@tbrscarlet.be wrote in message news:urqdnzkqgujpwmhsnz2dnuvz_qydn...@mozilla.org... Desiree wrote, On 11/03/2012 08:53: questiontr...@try.biz wrote in message news:l-qdnuc4vu47kshsnz2dnuvz_rqdn...@mozilla.org... Desiree wrote: How do I stop the printing of all the ridiculous headers that take up ALMOST ONE PAGE and are printed in BOLD TEXT thus wasting ink? Why does SM Mail print all that junk? Besides all the irrelevant headers, it also printed ALMOST THE ENTIRE MESSAGE OF THREE PAGES in BOLD wasting even more ink! I just needed a record of my reservation. I didn't need all the other junk printed nor did I need any of it in bold text. OE would never waste ink like this or print almost an entire page of irrelevant headers. I removed this email address from OE long ago (and meant to completely kill it), but I never did and sometimes I get relevant mail in it. SM still has it so that is why I didn't print from OE. This is probably the first email I have ever printed from SM as I rarely need to print emails. Copy The Email and Then paste it into WORD . That's a good idea. But my point is that I don't need to do that if I use OE. One of the reasons I started using SM again is because it has an email client and I will be getting a new computer soon with Win 7. The only way to continue using OE then will be via XP inside Win 7 Professional. So, I have been looking for a new email client. I would use Windows Mail reluctantly because it doesn't have Identities which is the best thing about OE but Windows Mail is not in Win 7 and I will NOT use any cloud junk. I've used Mozilla mail before it was SM but always had OE as my default mail client. As for copying to Word, I won't have Word on Win 7. I just have the words; Subject, From, Date, To in bold. ALL the rest are simple pure characters wasting no INK as you said with SM. Perhaps the guy who wrote the mail, put all his text in BOLD !!! SM is not responsible to print what he see on the screen. If so, please modify SM to have ALL your emails in *PLAIN-TEXT* mode ! All email in any email client has always been set to be read and composed in Plain Text. The email was sent in Plain Text. SeaMonkey bolds the headers and most of the body of the email was bolded. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey email headers when printing
Beauregard T. Shagnasty a.nony.mous@example.invalid wrote in message news:htcdnurqs7bhbchsnz2dnuvz_rkaa...@mozilla.org... Desiree wrote: As for copying to Word, I won't have Word on Win 7. Good idea. :-) If you want an office suite, perhaps you would be happy with OpenOffice or LibreOffice. Both are full suites like Microsoft Office, but free. They are also (just about) fully compatible with Word/Excel ... http://www.openoffice.org/ http://www.libreoffice.org/ I hate OpenOffice. It is extremely buggy on XP. Maybe it works better on Win 7. I haven't tried libreoffice. I will look at it. But all I really want is Word no later than 2003 version. The reason I won't have Word on Win 7 is because I won't use any version with the ribbon. I'll just have to use WordPad (or whatever it is that comes on Windows as I don't think Microsoft ruined it with the ribbon). I'll miss Word 2002 a lot. I beta tested Office 2007 and hated it. Microsoft ruined Office with that horrible ribbon junk. I'll be immediately fixing Win7 with all the crap Microsoft put on it. I will use Classic Shell to get back Classic Windows look and no stupid Aero junk for kiddies that need eye candy. -- -bts -This space for rent, but the price is high ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey email headers when printing
Desiree wrote: Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: Desiree wrote: Thanks. I always have email set to show all headers as a routine security measure. Here's a suggestion: set your View Headers Normal so your display, and your printing, won't show all those lines, but when you want to check the security of the email while viewing it, press Control-U to view source, then when satisfied, press Control-W to close the source window. Thank you but I am a mouse person. I would never remember those keyboard commands. I use the keyboard for typing and try to never need it for anything else. Don't you use Control-C and -V and -A and -X for text manipulation? It can't be difficult to remember two more. Of course, you can always use your mouse on the menu: View Message Source - and then close the window with the mouse. Besides, it is a security measure and security trumps SM's problem when printing. I'll just try to remember to turn off full headers if printing. I rarely print an email. ... What exactly is it that you need to see in the headers of your email? Are you receiving lots of email from strangers? Do you work at a security company? -- -bts -This space for rent, but the price is high ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
SeaMonkey email headers when printing
How do I stop the printing of all the ridiculous headers that take up ALMOST ONE PAGE and are printed in BOLD TEXT thus wasting ink? Why does SM Mail print all that junk? Besides all the irrelevant headers, it also printed ALMOST THE ENTIRE MESSAGE OF THREE PAGES in BOLD wasting even more ink! I just needed a record of my reservation. I didn't need all the other junk printed nor did I need any of it in bold text. OE would never waste ink like this or print almost an entire page of irrelevant headers. I removed this email address from OE long ago (and meant to completely kill it), but I never did and sometimes I get relevant mail in it. SM still has it so that is why I didn't print from OE. This is probably the first email I have ever printed from SM as I rarely need to print emails. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey email headers when printing
Desiree wrote: How do I stop the printing of all the ridiculous headers that take up ALMOST ONE PAGE and are printed in BOLD TEXT thus wasting ink? Why does SM Mail print all that junk? Besides all the irrelevant headers, it also printed ALMOST THE ENTIRE MESSAGE OF THREE PAGES in BOLD wasting even more ink! I just needed a record of my reservation. I didn't need all the other junk printed nor did I need any of it in bold text. OE would never waste ink like this or print almost an entire page of irrelevant headers. I removed this email address from OE long ago (and meant to completely kill it), but I never did and sometimes I get relevant mail in it. SM still has it so that is why I didn't print from OE. This is probably the first email I have ever printed from SM as I rarely need to print emails. buy an Epson, bigger cartridges ;-) -- ~Vink http:/vinkesteijn.info/Vink.jpg ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey email headers when printing
Desiree wrote: How do I stop the printing of all the ridiculous headers that take up ALMOST ONE PAGE and are printed in BOLD TEXT thus wasting ink? Why does SM Mail print all that junk? Besides all the irrelevant headers, it also printed ALMOST THE ENTIRE MESSAGE OF THREE PAGES in BOLD wasting even more ink! I just needed a record of my reservation. I didn't need all the other junk printed nor did I need any of it in bold text. OE would never waste ink like this or print almost an entire page of irrelevant headers. I removed this email address from OE long ago (and meant to completely kill it), but I never did and sometimes I get relevant mail in it. SM still has it so that is why I didn't print from OE. This is probably the first email I have ever printed from SM as I rarely need to print emails. As far as I can tell SeaMonkey prints what is displayed, or tries to, which is exactly what it should do and what most people would want. It prints the headers in bold because they are displayed in bold. Do you have view all headers selected? If so turn it off (view headers normal). It tries to print the body as it is displayed, if it's bold it prints in bold, if you don't like it change view message body as plain text. SeaMonkey isn't written to do just what you want and thankfully it isn't written to do things the way OE does. If you like OE so much use it, or forward the the message to OE and print from their. Or copy out the text and past it into another program to print it, that way you can delete and change the font any way you want. Jim ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey email headers when printing
On 12-03-10 4:56 AM, _Desiree_ spoke thusly: How do I stop the printing of all the ridiculous headers that take up ALMOST ONE PAGE and are printed in BOLD TEXT thus wasting ink? How many headers get printed is dependant on your setting in View--Headers. If you're using an extension like Mnenhy, the custom headers function is based on all headers view. You need to set it to Normal. For more info, see http://mnenhy.mozdev.org/installation.html#limit. -- Chris Ilias http://ilias.ca Newsgroup moderator ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey email headers when printing
Desiree wrote: How do I stop the printing of all the ridiculous headers that take up ALMOST ONE PAGE and are printed in BOLD TEXT thus wasting ink? Why does SM Mail print all that junk? Besides all the irrelevant headers, it also printed ALMOST THE ENTIRE MESSAGE OF THREE PAGES in BOLD wasting even more ink! I just needed a record of my reservation. I didn't need all the other junk printed nor did I need any of it in bold text. OE would never waste ink like this or print almost an entire page of irrelevant headers. I removed this email address from OE long ago (and meant to completely kill it), but I never did and sometimes I get relevant mail in it. SM still has it so that is why I didn't print from OE. This is probably the first email I have ever printed from SM as I rarely need to print emails. Many commercial sites have their own printer-friendly versions of things like reservation and order confirmation pages. But failing that, I always do a print preview first to check scaling and such, and if there are pages I don't want, I just tell SM to print the pages I do want. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey email headers when printing
I see exactly five headers when I print-preview your message; how many do you see when you priny- preview your reservation ? Philip Taylor Desiree wrote: How do I stop the printing of all the ridiculous headers that take up ALMOST ONE PAGE and are printed in BOLD TEXT thus wasting ink? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey email headers when printing
Desiree wrote: How do I stop the printing of all the ridiculous headers that take up ALMOST ONE PAGE and are printed in BOLD TEXT thus wasting ink? Why does SM Mail print all that junk? Besides all the irrelevant headers, it also printed ALMOST THE ENTIRE MESSAGE OF THREE PAGES in BOLD wasting even more ink! I just needed a record of my reservation. I didn't need all the other junk printed nor did I need any of it in bold text. OE would never waste ink like this or print almost an entire page of irrelevant headers. I removed this email address from OE long ago (and meant to completely kill it), but I never did and sometimes I get relevant mail in it. SM still has it so that is why I didn't print from OE. This is probably the first email I have ever printed from SM as I rarely need to print emails. Copy The Email and Then paste it into WORD . ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey email headers when printing
Paul B. Gallagher pau...@pbgdashtranslations.com wrote in message news:3nodnb9i6toabcbsnz2dnuvz_r2dn...@mozilla.org... Desiree wrote: How do I stop the printing of all the ridiculous headers that take up ALMOST ONE PAGE and are printed in BOLD TEXT thus wasting ink? Why does SM Mail print all that junk? Besides all the irrelevant headers, it also printed ALMOST THE ENTIRE MESSAGE OF THREE PAGES in BOLD wasting even more ink! I just needed a record of my reservation. I didn't need all the other junk printed nor did I need any of it in bold text. OE would never waste ink like this or print almost an entire page of irrelevant headers. I removed this email address from OE long ago (and meant to completely kill it), but I never did and sometimes I get relevant mail in it. SM still has it so that is why I didn't print from OE. This is probably the first email I have ever printed from SM as I rarely need to print emails. Many commercial sites have their own printer-friendly versions of things like reservation and order confirmation pages. But failing that, I always do a print preview first to check scaling and such, and if there are pages I don't want, I just tell SM to print the pages I do want. This is a hotel reservation. I could not access the reservations page on SM, Fx, IE, or Opera. I have stayed at the hotel in the past many times and only Opera works properly, but even it was not accessing the reservations page. So, I had to call the 800 number for all their hotels and make the reservation that way (which was completely incorrect according to the email and I had to call them today to remake it). So, there was no web page to print out. But I don't recall anything in the past when I have reserved via the web (airlines, yes, there is web page to print out). I always get an email and three or four more before the date of my stay. Yes, I should have print previewed. But I still don't fully trust print preview in any browser. I remember so many times in past years where I could not get of print preview without crashing whatever browser I was using). -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey email headers when printing
Paul p...@main.com wrote in message news:zcmdnsjh7-uodsbsnz2dnuvz_gsdn...@mozilla.org... Desiree wrote: How do I stop the printing of all the ridiculous headers that take up ALMOST ONE PAGE and are printed in BOLD TEXT thus wasting ink? Why does SM Mail print all that junk? Besides all the irrelevant headers, it also printed ALMOST THE ENTIRE MESSAGE OF THREE PAGES in BOLD wasting even more ink! I just needed a record of my reservation. I didn't need all the other junk printed nor did I need any of it in bold text. OE would never waste ink like this or print almost an entire page of irrelevant headers. I removed this email address from OE long ago (and meant to completely kill it), but I never did and sometimes I get relevant mail in it. SM still has it so that is why I didn't print from OE. This is probably the first email I have ever printed from SM as I rarely need to print emails. Reservations? That is probably not a function of SM. Reservation companies like to include pages of junk. Your reservation emailing company MAY allow you to receive them as text and not html. Or, set your emails for text only then edit and print. Or, print a screen shot. ALL mail is read as plain text and all mail that I send is sent in plain text only. That is simple security rules I have followed since I got my first computer in 1999. The company sent the email in plain text. A screenshot would use more ink than printing the email. It would print as a photo and invoke Microsoft photo printing help in order to print it. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey email headers when printing
Desiree wrote, On 11/03/2012 08:16: Philip TAYLORp.tay...@rhul.ac.uk wrote in message news:mailman.13895.1331406349.31724.support-seamon...@lists.mozilla.org... I see exactly five headers when I print-preview your message; how many do you see when you priny- preview your reservation ? I see 23 headers! It takes more than one half page when printed. All I needed was subject, from, date and to. Did you go to View - Headers then click on Normal ??? If you still have the All option ... it's normal that you have so many headers lines. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey email headers when printing
question tr...@try.biz wrote in message news:l-qdnuc4vu47kshsnz2dnuvz_rqdn...@mozilla.org... Desiree wrote: How do I stop the printing of all the ridiculous headers that take up ALMOST ONE PAGE and are printed in BOLD TEXT thus wasting ink? Why does SM Mail print all that junk? Besides all the irrelevant headers, it also printed ALMOST THE ENTIRE MESSAGE OF THREE PAGES in BOLD wasting even more ink! I just needed a record of my reservation. I didn't need all the other junk printed nor did I need any of it in bold text. OE would never waste ink like this or print almost an entire page of irrelevant headers. I removed this email address from OE long ago (and meant to completely kill it), but I never did and sometimes I get relevant mail in it. SM still has it so that is why I didn't print from OE. This is probably the first email I have ever printed from SM as I rarely need to print emails. Copy The Email and Then paste it into WORD . That's a good idea. But my point is that I don't need to do that if I use OE. One of the reasons I started using SM again is because it has an email client and I will be getting a new computer soon with Win 7. The only way to continue using OE then will be via XP inside Win 7 Professional. So, I have been looking for a new email client. I would use Windows Mail reluctantly because it doesn't have Identities which is the best thing about OE but Windows Mail is not in Win 7 and I will NOT use any cloud junk. I've used Mozilla mail before it was SM but always had OE as my default mail client. As for copying to Word, I won't have Word on Win 7. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey