Re: Seamonkey startup taking longer.
Lee wrote: On 6/28/15, azed13 wrote: Jonathan N. Little wrote: azed13 wrote: I have noticed over a period of several months that each time I update Seamonkey (currently 2.33.1) it seems to take longer to open when called upon. I have timed it and the delay before an operational browser is available has been up to two minutes. Is this normal? I do not have extensions or add ons except for User Agent switcher and Last Pass Security. I have two PC's and a laptop, the second PC has only User Agent Switcher and all three experience this delay. Is there a setting I am missing or could this be an ISP problem. I have Cox Cable which is the so called "fastest" in this area. Any thoughts would be appreciated. Switch your home page to blank or a local HTML page and test to take Cox out of the equation. I set the home page to "Blank", no change to delay. I then disabled the Host file which is quite large and thought it might be a cause. However, after closing the browser and shutting down the system a cold boot and restart of Seamonkey the delay is still apparent. If I close Seamonkey and restart it, the delay is minimal. It appears that upon the initial start of Seamonkey after boot up something is interfering with or configuring the program before it opens and is then erased when the system shuts down. Does this make any kind of sense? Yes. Sounds like an anti-virus program set to check programs before loading & remember the results so it doesn't have to scan on subsequent program loads. So... do you ahve an a/v program? set to check programs when they load? and set to scan only on the first load? Regards, Lee First, my thanks to all of you responders for the great suggestions. Second, mea culpa because the responses made me use my ancient brain to dig through my machine looking for other possible causes. And, I found it. Back in mid 2014 I thought my boot time seemed to be a little too long. when we get old we sometimes get impatient. I found a small program that was designed to delay applications from preloading in the background during boot. So, the net effect is some programs took a minimal amount of extra time to load when called upon. I was not aware that Seamonkey would be in that category. As Seamonkey went through the various updates it appears that little program had more effect then on other applications. I disabled it and the problem vanished. So, my apologies to all for bugging you with something that really turned out to be way off topic. Conversely, my thanks for nudging me in the right direction to solve it. azed13 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey startup taking longer.
azed13 wrote: I have Microsoft Security Essentials as well as AVG Free edition. Any kind of scheduled or auto scan is disabled in both. "Real-time protection" is enabled in MSE and "Resident Shield" is enabled in AVG. As far as I can tell looking at the settings for both programs there is no indication of a request to scan any particular program before opening. However, I really don't know what "Real-time protection" is in MSE. Well that definitely could be your problem. More than one antivirus program installed at a time is a bad idea. Can often lock your system up. Pick one and uninstall the other. -- Take care, Jonathan --- LITTLE WORKS STUDIO http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey startup taking longer.
azed13 wrote: Just Seamonkey Paul. Task Manager shows Seamonkey far and away the largest user at 350,000 K+ The second largest group of users is all the "Host Processes for Windows Services" also exceeding 350,000 K. I haven't noticed any unusual delay opening other programs such as Photoshop or Office. Two other things you could try: - Disable hardware acceleration. Several years ago, I did that on my installation, when I had quirkiness with fonts display. However, depending on your video card, there may be issues that turn up with performance issues. I do know that since the release of Thunderbird 38.0.1 a couple of weeks ago, I've seen a number of people reporting either noticeable slowness, or crash problems, and for some disabling hardware acceleration has helped. - If your mail client has several mail and/or news accounts defined, consider reducing the frequency of checking for new content. I had problems with occasional total non-responsiveness, and I found that when I set the news servers to check less frequently, and also on slightly different schedules (e.g., one checking every 55 minutes, one checking every 60 minutes, one checking every 65 minutes), I saw a noticeable improvement, when I wasn't checking all the news servers simultaneously. In a similar way de-synchronizing checks for mail seems to help, especially since I have a lot of content handling rules in place. Neither of these are a panacea, but either may help a little. Smith ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey startup taking longer.
azed13 wrote: I have noticed over a period of several months that each time I update Seamonkey (currently 2.33.1) it seems to take longer to open when called upon. I have timed it and the delay before an operational browser is available has been up to two minutes. Is this normal? I do not have extensions or add ons except for User Agent switcher and Last Pass Security. I have two PC's and a laptop, the second PC has only User Agent Switcher and all three experience this delay. Is there a setting I am missing or could this be an ISP problem. I have Cox Cable which is the so called "fastest" in this area. Any thoughts would be appreciated. azed13 Have you tried to start SeaMonkey in safe mode and see how that works? Also you might want to try creating a new profile just for testing purposes. Danny, ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey startup taking longer.
On 29/06/2015 5:49 PM, azed13 wrote: Lee wrote: On 6/28/15, azed13 wrote: Jonathan N. Little wrote: azed13 wrote: I have noticed over a period of several months that each time I update Seamonkey (currently 2.33.1) it seems to take longer to open when called upon. I have timed it and the delay before an operational browser is available has been up to two minutes. Is this normal? I do not have extensions or add ons except for User Agent switcher and Last Pass Security. I have two PC's and a laptop, the second PC has only User Agent Switcher and all three experience this delay. Is there a setting I am missing or could this be an ISP problem. I have Cox Cable which is the so called "fastest" in this area. Any thoughts would be appreciated. Switch your home page to blank or a local HTML page and test to take Cox out of the equation. I set the home page to "Blank", no change to delay. I then disabled the Host file which is quite large and thought it might be a cause. However, after closing the browser and shutting down the system a cold boot and restart of Seamonkey the delay is still apparent. If I close Seamonkey and restart it, the delay is minimal. It appears that upon the initial start of Seamonkey after boot up something is interfering with or configuring the program before it opens and is then erased when the system shuts down. Does this make any kind of sense? Yes. Sounds like an anti-virus program set to check programs before loading & remember the results so it doesn't have to scan on subsequent program loads. So... do you ahve an a/v program? set to check programs when they load? and set to scan only on the first load? Regards, Lee Lee: I have Microsoft Security Essentials as well as AVG Free edition. Any kind of scheduled or auto scan is disabled in both. "Real-time protection" is enabled in MSE and "Resident Shield" is enabled in AVG. As far as I can tell looking at the settings for both programs there is no indication of a request to scan any particular program before opening. However, I really don't know what "Real-time protection" is in MSE. Is it possible that you have either/both MSE and AVG set up to check your e-mail files on start-up?? SeaMonkey stores your e-mails in one (possibly large) file, and, because of the way SM handles it's e-mail files and attachments, it is not necessary to check them or your new e-mails as they are downloaded. -- Daniel User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:35.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.32 Build identifier: 20141218225909 or User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:36.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.33 Build identifier: 20150215202114 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey startup taking longer.
Lee wrote: On 6/28/15, azed13 wrote: Jonathan N. Little wrote: azed13 wrote: I have noticed over a period of several months that each time I update Seamonkey (currently 2.33.1) it seems to take longer to open when called upon. I have timed it and the delay before an operational browser is available has been up to two minutes. Is this normal? I do not have extensions or add ons except for User Agent switcher and Last Pass Security. I have two PC's and a laptop, the second PC has only User Agent Switcher and all three experience this delay. Is there a setting I am missing or could this be an ISP problem. I have Cox Cable which is the so called "fastest" in this area. Any thoughts would be appreciated. Switch your home page to blank or a local HTML page and test to take Cox out of the equation. I set the home page to "Blank", no change to delay. I then disabled the Host file which is quite large and thought it might be a cause. However, after closing the browser and shutting down the system a cold boot and restart of Seamonkey the delay is still apparent. If I close Seamonkey and restart it, the delay is minimal. It appears that upon the initial start of Seamonkey after boot up something is interfering with or configuring the program before it opens and is then erased when the system shuts down. Does this make any kind of sense? Yes. Sounds like an anti-virus program set to check programs before loading & remember the results so it doesn't have to scan on subsequent program loads. So... do you ahve an a/v program? set to check programs when they load? and set to scan only on the first load? Regards, Lee Lee: I have Microsoft Security Essentials as well as AVG Free edition. Any kind of scheduled or auto scan is disabled in both. "Real-time protection" is enabled in MSE and "Resident Shield" is enabled in AVG. As far as I can tell looking at the settings for both programs there is no indication of a request to scan any particular program before opening. However, I really don't know what "Real-time protection" is in MSE. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey startup taking longer.
Paul B. Gallagher wrote: azed13 wrote: 8 gigs ram, Task Mgr. says 4.9 cached (Windows 7 Limitation??) 1 Terabyte Drive, 517 Gigs free. WD 5400 RPM - SATA. Seems like plenty of capacity. I appreciate that you are trying to help. Is it just SM, or is the whole system performing poorly? If it's the system, it's probably not SM's fault (though it could be). Try clearing cache and cookies, compact folders, then restart SM. What does Windows Task Manager say is using all that 4.9 GB? You may have to "show processes from all users" (checkbox at bottom). Just Seamonkey Paul. Task Manager shows Seamonkey far and away the largest user at 350,000 K+ The second largest group of users is all the "Host Processes for Windows Services" also exceeding 350,000 K. I haven't noticed any unusual delay opening other programs such as Photoshop or Office. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey startup taking longer.
On 6/28/15, azed13 wrote: > Jonathan N. Little wrote: >> azed13 wrote: >>> I have noticed over a period of several months that each time I update >>> Seamonkey (currently 2.33.1) it seems to take longer to open when called >>> upon. I have timed it and the delay before an operational browser is >>> available has been up to two minutes. Is this normal? >>> >>> I do not have extensions or add ons except for User Agent switcher >>> and Last Pass Security. I have two PC's and a laptop, the second PC has >>> only User Agent Switcher and all three experience this delay. Is there a >>> setting I am missing or could this be an ISP problem. I have Cox Cable >>> which is the so called "fastest" in this area. >>> >>> Any thoughts would be appreciated. >> >> Switch your home page to blank or a local HTML page and test to take Cox >> out of the equation. >> > I set the home page to "Blank", no change to delay. I then disabled the > Host file which is quite large and thought it might be a cause. However, > after closing the browser and shutting down the system a cold boot and > restart of Seamonkey the delay is still apparent. > > If I close Seamonkey and restart it, the delay is minimal. It appears > that upon the initial start of Seamonkey after boot up something is > interfering with or configuring the program before it opens and is then > erased when the system shuts down. Does this make any kind of sense? Yes. Sounds like an anti-virus program set to check programs before loading & remember the results so it doesn't have to scan on subsequent program loads. So... do you ahve an a/v program? set to check programs when they load? and set to scan only on the first load? Regards, Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey startup taking longer.
azed13 wrote: 8 gigs ram, Task Mgr. says 4.9 cached (Windows 7 Limitation??) 1 Terabyte Drive, 517 Gigs free. WD 5400 RPM - SATA. Seems like plenty of capacity. I appreciate that you are trying to help. Is it just SM, or is the whole system performing poorly? If it's the system, it's probably not SM's fault (though it could be). Try clearing cache and cookies, compact folders, then restart SM. What does Windows Task Manager say is using all that 4.9 GB? You may have to "show processes from all users" (checkbox at bottom). -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey startup taking longer.
Jonathan N. Little wrote: azed13 wrote: I set the home page to "Blank", no change to delay. I then disabled the Host file which is quite large and thought it might be a cause. However, after closing the browser and shutting down the system a cold boot and restart of Seamonkey the delay is still apparent. If I close Seamonkey and restart it, the delay is minimal. It appears that upon the initial start of Seamonkey after boot up something is interfering with or configuring the program before it opens and is then erased when the system shuts down. Does this make any kind of sense? I can live with the slow start up, it's just an annoyance. I'm now just curious as to cause and effect and would appreciate any further insights that might explain it. Sounds like an issue with the specs of your system...slow drive? Short on RAM? Full Drive?... 8 gigs ram, Task Mgr. says 4.9 cached (Windows 7 Limitation??) 1 Terabyte Drive, 517 Gigs free. WD 5400 RPM - SATA. Seems like plenty of capacity. I appreciate that you are trying to help. azed13 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey startup taking longer.
azed13 wrote: I set the home page to "Blank", no change to delay. I then disabled the Host file which is quite large and thought it might be a cause. However, after closing the browser and shutting down the system a cold boot and restart of Seamonkey the delay is still apparent. If I close Seamonkey and restart it, the delay is minimal. It appears that upon the initial start of Seamonkey after boot up something is interfering with or configuring the program before it opens and is then erased when the system shuts down. Does this make any kind of sense? I can live with the slow start up, it's just an annoyance. I'm now just curious as to cause and effect and would appreciate any further insights that might explain it. Sounds like an issue with the specs of your system...slow drive? Short on RAM? Full Drive?... -- Take care, Jonathan --- LITTLE WORKS STUDIO http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey startup taking longer.
Jonathan N. Little wrote: azed13 wrote: I have noticed over a period of several months that each time I update Seamonkey (currently 2.33.1) it seems to take longer to open when called upon. I have timed it and the delay before an operational browser is available has been up to two minutes. Is this normal? I do not have extensions or add ons except for User Agent switcher and Last Pass Security. I have two PC's and a laptop, the second PC has only User Agent Switcher and all three experience this delay. Is there a setting I am missing or could this be an ISP problem. I have Cox Cable which is the so called "fastest" in this area. Any thoughts would be appreciated. Switch your home page to blank or a local HTML page and test to take Cox out of the equation. I set the home page to "Blank", no change to delay. I then disabled the Host file which is quite large and thought it might be a cause. However, after closing the browser and shutting down the system a cold boot and restart of Seamonkey the delay is still apparent. If I close Seamonkey and restart it, the delay is minimal. It appears that upon the initial start of Seamonkey after boot up something is interfering with or configuring the program before it opens and is then erased when the system shuts down. Does this make any kind of sense? I can live with the slow start up, it's just an annoyance. I'm now just curious as to cause and effect and would appreciate any further insights that might explain it. azed13 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey startup taking longer.
Jonathan N. Little wrote: azed13 wrote: I have noticed over a period of several months that each time I update Seamonkey (currently 2.33.1) it seems to take longer to open when called upon. I have timed it and the delay before an operational browser is available has been up to two minutes. Is this normal? I do not have extensions or add ons except for User Agent switcher and Last Pass Security. I have two PC's and a laptop, the second PC has only User Agent Switcher and all three experience this delay. Is there a setting I am missing or could this be an ISP problem. I have Cox Cable which is the so called "fastest" in this area. Any thoughts would be appreciated. Switch your home page to blank or a local HTML page and test to take Cox out of the equation. Thank you, I will try that. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey startup taking longer.
azed13 wrote: I have noticed over a period of several months that each time I update Seamonkey (currently 2.33.1) it seems to take longer to open when called upon. I have timed it and the delay before an operational browser is available has been up to two minutes. Is this normal? I do not have extensions or add ons except for User Agent switcher and Last Pass Security. I have two PC's and a laptop, the second PC has only User Agent Switcher and all three experience this delay. Is there a setting I am missing or could this be an ISP problem. I have Cox Cable which is the so called "fastest" in this area. Any thoughts would be appreciated. Switch your home page to blank or a local HTML page and test to take Cox out of the equation. -- Take care, Jonathan --- LITTLE WORKS STUDIO http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Seamonkey startup taking longer.
I have noticed over a period of several months that each time I update Seamonkey (currently 2.33.1) it seems to take longer to open when called upon. I have timed it and the delay before an operational browser is available has been up to two minutes. Is this normal? I do not have extensions or add ons except for User Agent switcher and Last Pass Security. I have two PC's and a laptop, the second PC has only User Agent Switcher and all three experience this delay. Is there a setting I am missing or could this be an ISP problem. I have Cox Cable which is the so called "fastest" in this area. Any thoughts would be appreciated. azed13 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
