Re: [Plugin Check] Re: Support For SeaMonkey 1.x Dropped
NoOp wrote: Only the first two show as up to date; the rest, including the most recent version of java show Unable to Detect Plugin Version - Research. Yes, unfortunately, plugins don't tell us their version usually, and Mozilla also doesn't know all the plugins that actually do exist, so that site only has checks for a very specific set of plugins that we know are used often enough and that somehow report us a useful version (Adobe Reader for example is used a lot but doesn't tell a useful version). Robert Kaiser ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Support For SeaMonkey 1.x Dropped
Phillip Jones wrote: Sorry I meant Plugins. The best we have for that right now is this website: http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/plugincheck/ I think we might have some of that functionality right inside of SeaMonkey 2.1 as well in the future. Robert Kaiser ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
[Plugin Check] Re: Support For SeaMonkey 1.x Dropped
On 03/25/2010 06:29 AM, Robert Kaiser wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Sorry I meant Plugins. The best we have for that right now is this website: http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/plugincheck/ I think we might have some of that functionality right inside of SeaMonkey 2.1 as well in the future. Robert Kaiser Right... Plugin Details Status Action The plugins listed below are up to date Plugin Icon Plugin Icon VLC Multimedia Plugin (compatible Totem 2.28.2) The Totem 2.28.2 plugin handles video and audio streams.2.28.2 Up to Date Plugin Icon Shockwave Flash Shockwave Flash 10.0 r4510.0.45.0 Up to Date Plugin Icon mplayerplug-in is now gecko-mediaplayer 0.9.8 Gecko Media Player 0.9.8 Video Player Plug-in for QuickTime, RealPlayer and Windows Media Player streams using MPlayer Unable to Detect Plugin Version Research Plugin Icon RealPlayer 9 Gecko Media Player 0.9.8 Video Player Plug-in for QuickTime, RealPlayer and Windows Media Player streams using MPlayer Unable to Detect Plugin Version Research Plugin Icon QuickTime Plug-in 7.4.5 Gecko Media Player 0.9.8 Video Player Plug-in for QuickTime, RealPlayer and Windows Media Player streams using MPlayer Unable to Detect Plugin Version Research Plugin Icon DivX Browser Plug-In Gecko Media Player 0.9.8 Video Player Plug-in for QuickTime, RealPlayer and Windows Media Player streams using MPlayer Unable to Detect Plugin Version Research Plugin Icon DivX® Web Player DivX Web Player version 1.4.0.233 Unable to Detect Plugin Version Research Plugin Icon Windows Media Player Plug-in 10 (compatible; Totem) The Totem 2.28.2 plugin handles video and audio streams.Unable to Detect Plugin Version Research Plugin Icon VLC Multimedia Plug-in Version 1.0.2 Goldeneye, copyright 1996-2007 The VideoLAN Team http://www.videolan.org/Unable to Detect Plugin Version Research Plugin Icon Adobe Reader 9.3 The Adobe Reader plugin is used to enable viewing of PDF and FDF files from within the browser.Unable to Detect Plugin Version Research Notice: Adobe recommend Acrobat Reader 9.3 Plugin Icon Java(TM) Plug-in 1.6.0_18 The next generation Java plug-in for Mozilla browsers. Unable to Detect Plugin Version Research Plugin Icon Silverlight Plug-In 3.0.40818.0 Unable to Detect Plugin Version Research Plugin Icon iTunes Application Detector This plug-in detects the presence of iTunes when opening iTunes Store URLs in a web page with Firefox.Unable to Detect Plugin Version Research Plugin Icon Windows Media Player Plug-in Gecko Media Player 0.9.8 Video Player Plug-in for QuickTime, RealPlayer and Windows Media Player streams using MPlayer Unable to Detect Plugin Version Research Plugin Icon Picasa Picasa plugin Unable to Detect Plugin Version Research Only the first two show as up to date; the rest, including the most recent version of java show Unable to Detect Plugin Version - Research. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Support For SeaMonkey 1.x Dropped
Robert Kaiser wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Sorry I meant Plugins. The best we have for that right now is this website: http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/plugincheck/ I think we might have some of that functionality right inside of SeaMonkey 2.1 as well in the future. Robert Kaiser Thanks for the link all my plug ins are okay except one for java embedding Plugin 0.9.7.2 and Silver light 1.0.30715 I can't update any newer on silver-light because I am still using a PowerPC Computer and X.4.11. Normally Java plug ins are updated through system update but not updates for anything related to X.4.11 since last September. can java be updated through sun for Apple Platform. There are two other Java Plugins. 10.0.2 (java 1.3.1) and Java (CFM) 1.3.1 -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.net http://www.vpea.org mailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Support For SeaMonkey 1.x Dropped
Robert Kaiser wrote: Daniel wrote: Robert, does the simple move from SM 1.1.18 (or .19) to SM 2.x.x solve any of the formers security problems?? Yes, 2.0.x has fixes for all known and published security problems. Robert Kaiser Thanks for that answer to the question I asked. What I actually meant to ask was more along the lines of Does the move from SM 1.1.18 to SM 2.0.x fix many of the known bugs (not just security!!)? Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Support For SeaMonkey 1.x Dropped
Phillip Jones wrote: I just sent another just few hours ago. most happen reading email or newsgroups for some Strange reason. We should try to find out what's up there. Why did 1.1.18 have practically no crashes? The hangs happen mostly on some websites. I try to update plugins as they are updated. There have been a lot of changes in Gecko and other code parts in the last 5 years since the 1.8 code was branched and all SeaMonkey 1.x versions finally created from that branch later. Would love to see a system lick you have for extensions where you check for updates and it notifies of updates available. SeaMonkey 2.0 does have such a mechanism in the auto-update code. Robert Kaiser ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Support For SeaMonkey 1.x Dropped
Daniel wrote: What I actually meant to ask was more along the lines of Does the move from SM 1.1.18 to SM 2.0.x fix many of the known bugs (not just security!!)? It fixes a lot of bugs for sure, 2.0.x is basically a completely rewritten new version. Robert Kaiser ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Support For SeaMonkey 1.x Dropped
Phillip Jones wrote: Robert Kaiser wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: here are the ones that haven't been purged there was another screen full I purged by mistake. Only two of those are from SeaMonkey 2.0.3: http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/9f52f227-c6ca-42cc-a43f-17d022100314 which is a crash in Flash player, and http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/b4006c9f-bbee-4086-8dbd-97d2c2100219 which is a crash in Foundation, which I guess is an Apple operating system component. Both of those are not crashes in SeaMonkey code. Some of your older crashes have been fixed in SeaMonkey 2.0.x for quite some time. We know that we have fixed a number of crash bugs in the various 2.0.x updates - I don't claim none were there, but we are monitoring the reports and seeing to getting them fixed. SeaMonkey 2.0.4 should not have much left in our own code that gives serious crashing pain but if you encounter any, please make sure you send in the reports and we'll take a look - esp. if you notify or ask us about those specific ones. Unfortunately, we can't fix up 3rd-party binary code such as Flash or Mac OS X, which are unfortunately also much slower in coming up with various kinds of fixes (Adobe even claims that Flash doesn't have and practically never had crashes or security issues, even though we have all kind of evidence to the contrary). Altogether somewhere over 20. and this doesn't count hangs which don't report as crashes. Might be in the crash system No, the crash reporter is not invoked unless SeaMonkey has already crashed, and the crash reporter is a separate process, you would see that. The hangs might be something completely different. Robert Kaiser I just sent another just few hours ago. most happen reading email or newsgroups for some Strange reason. Why did 1.1.18 have practically no crashes? The hangs happen mostly on some websites. I try to update plugins as they are updated. Would love to see a system lick you have for extensions where you check for updates and it notifies of updates available. Supposed to be Look not lick. Sorry -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.net http://www.vpea.org mailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Support For SeaMonkey 1.x Dropped
Robert Kaiser wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: I just sent another just few hours ago. most happen reading email or newsgroups for some Strange reason. We should try to find out what's up there. Why did 1.1.18 have practically no crashes? The hangs happen mostly on some websites. I try to update plugins as they are updated. There have been a lot of changes in Gecko and other code parts in the last 5 years since the 1.8 code was branched and all SeaMonkey 1.x versions finally created from that branch later. Would love to see a system lick you have for extensions where you check for updates and it notifies of updates available. SeaMonkey 2.0 does have such a mechanism in the auto-update code. Robert Kaiser ?? -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.net http://www.vpea.org mailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Support For SeaMonkey 1.x Dropped
Robert Kaiser wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: I just sent another just few hours ago. most happen reading email or newsgroups for some Strange reason. We should try to find out what's up there. Why did 1.1.18 have practically no crashes? The hangs happen mostly on some websites. I try to update plugins as they are updated. There have been a lot of changes in Gecko and other code parts in the last 5 years since the 1.8 code was branched and all SeaMonkey 1.x versions finally created from that branch later. Would love to see a system lick you have for extensions where you check for updates and it notifies of updates available. SeaMonkey 2.0 does have such a mechanism in the auto-update code. Robert Kaiser Just shows *install* no *Check for new...* -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.net http://www.vpea.org mailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Support For SeaMonkey 1.x Dropped
Phillip Jones a écrit : Just shows *install* no *Check for new...* Help -- Look for updates Or did you mean something else? S. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Support For SeaMonkey 1.x Dropped
Phillip Jones: Robert Kaiser wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Would love to see a system lick you have for extensions where you check for updates and it notifies of updates available. SeaMonkey 2.0 does have such a mechanism in the auto-update code. Just shows *install* no *Check for new...* Don't know about 2.0. This screenshot is from 2.1. http://www.triffids.de/pub/screenshot/ad100324.png (30 KB) Hartmut, sometimes reading here ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Support For SeaMonkey 1.x Dropped
S. Beaulieu wrote: Phillip Jones a écrit : Just shows *install* no *Check for new...* Help -- Look for updates Or did you mean something else? S. I meant in addons manager in extension and themes there is look for updates. in Plugins there is only, install, and a sort according to installation date button; no look for updates. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.net http://www.vpea.org mailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Support For SeaMonkey 1.x Dropped
Hartmut Figge wrote: Phillip Jones: Robert Kaiser wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Would love to see a system lick you have for extensions where you check for updates and it notifies of updates available. SeaMonkey 2.0 does have such a mechanism in the auto-update code. Just shows *install* no *Check for new...* Don't know about 2.0. This screenshot is from 2.1. http://www.triffids.de/pub/screenshot/ad100324.png (30 KB) Hartmut, sometimes reading here Okay here is what I am talking about: http://www.phillipmjones.net/Plugins.png do you see a check for new or check for updates here? -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.net http://www.vpea.org mailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Support For SeaMonkey 1.x Dropped
On 03/24/2010 11:18 AM, Phillip Jones wrote: Hartmut Figge wrote: Phillip Jones: Robert Kaiser wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Would love to see a system lick you have for extensions where you check for updates and it notifies of updates available. SeaMonkey 2.0 does have such a mechanism in the auto-update code. Just shows *install* no *Check for new...* Don't know about 2.0. This screenshot is from 2.1. http://www.triffids.de/pub/screenshot/ad100324.png (30 KB) Hartmut, sometimes reading here Okay here is what I am talking about: http://www.phillipmjones.net/Plugins.png do you see a check for new or check for updates here? No. You said: you have for extensions. Your screenshot is of the plugins. Click on the 'Extensions' tab/button and you will see the 'Find Updates' button. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Support For SeaMonkey 1.x Dropped
On 3/24/2010 11:38 AM, NoOp wrote: No. You said: you have for extensions. Your screenshot is of the plugins. Click on the 'Extensions' tab/button and you will see the 'Find Updates' button. Actually, what Phillip said was: I try to update plugins as they are updated. Would love to see a system lick [like] you have for extensions where you check for updates and it notifies of updates available. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Support For SeaMonkey 1.x Dropped
On 03/24/2010 12:08 PM, Mark Hansen wrote: On 3/24/2010 11:38 AM, NoOp wrote: No. You said: you have for extensions. Your screenshot is of the plugins. Click on the 'Extensions' tab/button and you will see the 'Find Updates' button. Actually, what Phillip said was: I try to update plugins as they are updated. Would love to see a system lick [like] you have for extensions where you check for updates and it notifies of updates available. Ah. My apologies (cleans glasses). I think that it would be quite difficult for SM to include a plugin update manager. The variables are many and the plugins are generally system related. For example; java is system wide etc. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Support For SeaMonkey 1.x Dropped
NoOp wrote: On 03/24/2010 11:18 AM, Phillip Jones wrote: Hartmut Figge wrote: Phillip Jones: Robert Kaiser wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Would love to see a system lick you have for extensions where you check for updates and it notifies of updates available. SeaMonkey 2.0 does have such a mechanism in the auto-update code. Just shows *install* no *Check for new...* Don't know about 2.0. This screenshot is from 2.1. http://www.triffids.de/pub/screenshot/ad100324.png (30 KB) Hartmut, sometimes reading here Okay here is what I am talking about: http://www.phillipmjones.net/Plugins.png do you see a check for new or check for updates here? No. You said: you have for extensions. Your screenshot is of the plugins. Click on the 'Extensions' tab/button and you will see the 'Find Updates' button. Sorry I meant Plugins. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.net http://www.vpea.org mailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Support For SeaMonkey 1.x Dropped
Mark Hansen wrote: On 3/24/2010 11:38 AM, NoOp wrote: No. You said: you have for extensions. Your screenshot is of the plugins. Click on the 'Extensions' tab/button and you will see the 'Find Updates' button. Actually, what Phillip said was: I try to update plugins as they are updated. Would love to see a system lick [like] you have for extensions where you check for updates and it notifies of updates available. I type the wrong thing should have typed Plugins I know there is for extension and themes. Why would I wish for something that's already there. There goes my proofing. I read it three times and saw Plugins even though I typed extensions. Oh, well (knock myself in the head). -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.net http://www.vpea.org mailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Support For SeaMonkey 1.x Dropped
NoOp wrote: On 03/24/2010 12:08 PM, Mark Hansen wrote: On 3/24/2010 11:38 AM, NoOp wrote: No. You said: you have for extensions. Your screenshot is of the plugins. Click on the 'Extensions' tab/button and you will see the 'Find Updates' button. Actually, what Phillip said was: I try to update plugins as they are updated. Would love to see a system lick [like] you have for extensions where you check for updates and it notifies of updates available. Ah. My apologies (cleans glasses). I think that it would be quite difficult for SM to include a plugin update manager. The variables are many and the plugins are generally system related. For example; java is system wide etc. If that's the case why is an install button shown? see my screen shot. all I am talking about is something that would run show a newer plugin is available. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.net http://www.vpea.org mailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Support For SeaMonkey 1.x Dropped
On 03/24/2010 01:51 PM, Phillip Jones wrote: NoOp wrote: On 03/24/2010 12:08 PM, Mark Hansen wrote: On 3/24/2010 11:38 AM, NoOp wrote: No. You said: you have for extensions. Your screenshot is of the plugins. Click on the 'Extensions' tab/button and you will see the 'Find Updates' button. Actually, what Phillip said was: I try to update plugins as they are updated. Would love to see a system lick [like] you have for extensions where you check for updates and it notifies of updates available. Ah. My apologies (cleans glasses). I think that it would be quite difficult for SM to include a plugin update manager. The variables are many and the plugins are generally system related. For example; java is system wide etc. If that's the case why is an install button shown? see my screen shot. all I am talking about is something that would run show a newer plugin is available. If you click the 'Install' button it defaults to an .xpi (extension). Perhaps it's a mistake to add it to the bottom of all selections (plugins particularly). Either way, IMO were SM programmed to go out and find updates to all of my system-wide plugins I'd probably uninstall SM. SM bloat would be too much. Let's take one plugin (java) and sort out what that might entail. Not only would you have the java install updater going out and checking, but you'd also have SM doing it as well. Do you really want this happening on your system? It's bad enough on an HP laptop that I'm testing with Win7 decides that every time I boot to Win7 it needs to go out and not only check the Windows stuff, but the HP stuff also then goes out and checks it's updates. Now you want SeaMonkey to do the same? It took me over 3 days to tame this Windows beast/nonsense. (I multiboot to several versions of linux, but need the Win7 for customer support). Now if I boot into linux (or even Windows) you'd expect/want SeaMonkey to go out and check my plugins (java, flash, mplayer, silverlight/moonlight, Adobe Reader, VLC, WMP/Totem, Quicktime, DivX, RealPlayer, Gecko Media Player, Picasa, et al? No Thanks! I don't wish my browser/suite to do any of that for me. Add-on's OK - they are application specific, but plugins... ? How would SeaMonkey even begin to control any of those? With the exception of a few, all are system-wide applications. These are not '.xpi' add-ons to this application alone. Further, what would you do if SeaMonkey were to go out and update your java (for instance) and your other application(s)/requirements were to need to keep the existing version in place? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Support For SeaMonkey 1.x Dropped
On Mar 24, 11:18 am, Phillip Jones pjon...@kimbanet.com wrote: Hartmut Figge wrote: Phillip Jones: Robert Kaiser wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Would love to see a system lick you have for extensions where you check for updates and it notifies of updates available. SeaMonkey 2.0 does have such a mechanism in the auto-update code. Just shows *install* no *Check for new...* Don't know about 2.0. This screenshot is from 2.1. http://www.triffids.de/pub/screenshot/ad100324.png(30 KB) Hartmut, sometimes reading here Okay here is what I am talking about: http://www.phillipmjones.net/Plugins.png do you see a check for new or check for updates here? -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T. If it's Fixed, Don't Break ithttp://www.phillipmjones.net http://www.vpea.org mailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com This is on [Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en- US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100317 Lightning/1.0b1 SeaMonkey/2.0.4 NOT Firefox/3.5.4]. In the Plugins module of Add-on Manager, I see Check for Updates in the Tools menu. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1286780/plugin_updates.png Rolf ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Support For SeaMonkey 1.x Dropped
Daniel wrote: Robert, does the simple move from SM 1.1.18 (or .19) to SM 2.x.x solve any of the formers security problems?? Yes, 2.0.x has fixes for all known and published security problems. Robert Kaiser ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Support For SeaMonkey 1.x Dropped
Robert Kaiser wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: here are the ones that haven't been purged there was another screen full I purged by mistake. Only two of those are from SeaMonkey 2.0.3: http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/9f52f227-c6ca-42cc-a43f-17d022100314 which is a crash in Flash player, and http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/b4006c9f-bbee-4086-8dbd-97d2c2100219 which is a crash in Foundation, which I guess is an Apple operating system component. Both of those are not crashes in SeaMonkey code. Some of your older crashes have been fixed in SeaMonkey 2.0.x for quite some time. We know that we have fixed a number of crash bugs in the various 2.0.x updates - I don't claim none were there, but we are monitoring the reports and seeing to getting them fixed. SeaMonkey 2.0.4 should not have much left in our own code that gives serious crashing pain but if you encounter any, please make sure you send in the reports and we'll take a look - esp. if you notify or ask us about those specific ones. Unfortunately, we can't fix up 3rd-party binary code such as Flash or Mac OS X, which are unfortunately also much slower in coming up with various kinds of fixes (Adobe even claims that Flash doesn't have and practically never had crashes or security issues, even though we have all kind of evidence to the contrary). Altogether somewhere over 20. and this doesn't count hangs which don't report as crashes. Might be in the crash system No, the crash reporter is not invoked unless SeaMonkey has already crashed, and the crash reporter is a separate process, you would see that. The hangs might be something completely different. Robert Kaiser I just sent another just few hours ago. most happen reading email or newsgroups for some Strange reason. Why did 1.1.18 have practically no crashes? The hangs happen mostly on some websites. I try to update plugins as they are updated. Would love to see a system lick you have for extensions where you check for updates and it notifies of updates available. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.net http://www.vpea.org mailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Support For SeaMonkey 1.x Dropped
Robert Kaiser wrote: Benoit Renard wrote: Except that your announcement contradicts this, because it also announces that for those who want to stay with 1.1.x that 1.1.19 is available. No, it says those that _cannot_ switch to 2.0 right now, not those who want to stay with 1.x - there's a subtle difference there. Staying with 1.x is a security risk, we don't want to encourage that in any way. Robert Kaiser Robert, does the simple move from SM 1.1.18 (or .19) to SM 2.x.x solve any of the formers security problems?? Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Support For SeaMonkey 1.x Dropped
Mark Hansen wrote: On 3/21/2010 7:23 AM, Benoit Renard wrote: Robert Kaiser wrote: Benoit Renard schrieb: As another user demonstrated, the subject line makes one think that support has been dropped, and that's it. And that's exactly what the announcement intended to do. Success on all targets. Except that your announcement contradicts this, because it also announces that for those who want to stay with 1.1.x that 1.1.19 is available. Or do you really want everyone to stay with 1.1.18 and have all the work on 1.1.19 be for nothing? Huh? Where did you get that? Did you even read the announcement? It really doesn't sounds like it. For example, as part of that message, he said (paraphrased): SM 1.x is really old. Given that 2.x release is only out less than a year, that's political spin more than any conventional understanding of really old. v1.1.17 was released in about June of last year, 1.1.18 after that. A serious form filler has only been out a few months, so many people couldn't think of migrating before that. SM 2.X is new and should be used if possible. ... for those that cannot upgrade to 2.X now, there is a final 1.X release available, 1.1.19, which fixes some security stuff ... That sounds about right. There will be no further SM 1.x releases. Pretty clear to me. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Support For SeaMonkey 1.x Dropped
On 3/22/2010 9:19 AM, Bill Davidsen wrote: Mark Hansen wrote: On 3/21/2010 7:23 AM, Benoit Renard wrote: Robert Kaiser wrote: Benoit Renard schrieb: As another user demonstrated, the subject line makes one think that support has been dropped, and that's it. And that's exactly what the announcement intended to do. Success on all targets. Except that your announcement contradicts this, because it also announces that for those who want to stay with 1.1.x that 1.1.19 is available. Or do you really want everyone to stay with 1.1.18 and have all the work on 1.1.19 be for nothing? Huh? Where did you get that? Did you even read the announcement? It really doesn't sounds like it. For example, as part of that message, he said (paraphrased): SM 1.x is really old. Given that 2.x release is only out less than a year, that's political spin more than any conventional understanding of really old. v1.1.17 was released in about June of last year, 1.1.18 after that. A serious form filler has only been out a few months, so many people couldn't think of migrating before that. I think the original message was referring to 1.X as a product line. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Support For SeaMonkey 1.x Dropped
Robert Kaiser wrote: Benoit Renard schrieb: As another user demonstrated, the subject line makes one think that support has been dropped, and that's it. And that's exactly what the announcement intended to do. Success on all targets. Except that your announcement contradicts this, because it also announces that for those who want to stay with 1.1.x that 1.1.19 is available. Or do you really want everyone to stay with 1.1.18 and have all the work on 1.1.19 be for nothing? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Support For SeaMonkey 1.x Dropped
Benoit Renard wrote: Except that your announcement contradicts this, because it also announces that for those who want to stay with 1.1.x that 1.1.19 is available. No, it says those that _cannot_ switch to 2.0 right now, not those who want to stay with 1.x - there's a subtle difference there. Staying with 1.x is a security risk, we don't want to encourage that in any way. Robert Kaiser ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Support For SeaMonkey 1.x Dropped
Leonidas Jones schrieb: Robert, since the build was built on Tiger, could there be something about the version available for download that is different? I did build it with the same machine and the exact same scripts as 1.1.18, so if there is any difference, it must be in the actual code changes. Robert Kaiser ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
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Phillip Jones schrieb: i.x use to use Full Circle Crash reporter. We never shipped the Fullcircle Talkback crash reporter, as we were never allowed to ship this proprietary product. All 1.x releases came _without_ any crash reporter tool. Robert Kaiser ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
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Robert Kaiser wrote: Phillip Jones schrieb: I've had twenty some crashes since I first loaded 2.0. gold. and I've had several Hangs as well. I had a few the first version of 1.x but it was found to be the Full circle Crash Reporter causing the problem. We never shipped that crash reporter with any SeaMonkey-branded release as we were not allowed to use it, the license of that proprietary product not being usable for volunteer community projects. I guess you had it left over from a Mozilla suite release which you just paved a SeaMonkey over, and that surely could cause problems. I'm wondering if the crash reporter is causing the crashes in SM2. Most probably not, but if you paved 2.0 over a 1.x installation, I wonder that it runs at all. If you didn't, we surely know that e.g. Flash is causing crashes that take SeaMonkey with them, and we are fixing some crashes with every 2.0.x release, 2.0.4 again has a number of such fixes. Could you please point us to (the IDs of) a few of your most recent crash reports from SM2? It probably would make sense to take a look at them and find out what is the cause there. Robert Kaiser No the way I do a major release difference say 1 to 2 is I remove the application to trash (don't empty as yet) then install the new version . when I get the new version working I then empty Trash. (I use a mac) Then if I want to keep the old one around I rename the old version to say SeaMonkey1 and move it back to applications. On a Mac moving an application to Trash forces a clean install of the application component to the applications Directory. If you leave in place it just copies over top. Which you never ever want to do on a new install. If a completely new version then a new application Support Item is created and preference and plist files are created. So on a Mac you *can* actually run several versions of the same Application at the same time. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.net http://www.vpea.org mailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
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Robert Kaiser wrote: Phillip Jones schrieb: i.x use to use Full Circle Crash reporter. We never shipped the Fullcircle Talkback crash reporter, as we were never allowed to ship this proprietary product. All 1.x releases came _without_ any crash reporter tool. Robert Kaiser all I know is it was in the first version and it kept crashing SM 1. and I had to remove it from Mozilla when I was using it. There was an actual folder for it in the the Profile Folder. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.net http://www.vpea.org mailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
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Phillip Jones schrieb: No the way I do a major release difference say 1 to 2 is I remove the application to trash (don't empty as yet) then install the new version . Good, just wanted to make sure your problem isn't there. So on a Mac you *can* actually run several versions of the same Application at the same time. Any platform can do that with Mozilla applications. It's a misbelief that Mac is superior to anything else, a common one with people caught in Apple's golden cage, though. Still, we'd love links to or IDs of your crash reports so we can investigate what's actually up there. Robert Kaiser ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
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Benoit Renard schrieb: As another user demonstrated, the subject line makes one think that support has been dropped, and that's it. And that's exactly what the announcement intended to do. Success on all targets. Robert Kaiser ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
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Robert Kaiser wrote: Phillip Jones schrieb: No the way I do a major release difference say 1 to 2 is I remove the application to trash (don't empty as yet) then install the new version . Good, just wanted to make sure your problem isn't there. So on a Mac you *can* actually run several versions of the same Application at the same time. Any platform can do that with Mozilla applications. It's a misbelief that Mac is superior to anything else, a common one with people caught in Apple's golden cage, though. Still, we'd love links to or IDs of your crash reports so we can investigate what's actually up there. Robert Kaiser not saying one or the other is superior . Just been told on these groups and others year after year after year that windows can't have two different versions (example SM1, SM2) on the same computer and have them run at the same time because of registry problems. On Mac as long as the application is named different you can run two or more versions on same computer because each generate support directories and files for each individual application taking into consideration the actual version. Now whether this is true or not I can't say. all I know is I have been reading for as long as windows has been around. have you go an email address you can send me to my email address and I will make a screen shot of the about Crashes. and send to you two most recent were caused by an older version of Flash and my trying to view a page some one on this group sent that said wouldn't show right it was about a car dealership. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.net http://www.vpea.org mailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
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Phillip Jones schrieb: have you go an email address you can send me to my email address and I will make a screen shot of the about Crashes. and send to you two most recent were caused by an older version of Flash and my trying to view a page some one on this group sent that said wouldn't show right it was about a car dealership. Just post the crash IDs (as displayed in about:crashes) here, please. Robert Kaiser ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
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On 3/19/2010 3:47 PM PT, Leonidas Jones typed: Noting Robert's comments, even if it were, active, the program doesn't ever actually open, so nothing to report. The Activity Montor shows it active for a few seconds, then it disappears. How about strace if it exists? -- Thanks for giving me the courage to eat all those ants. --unknown /\___/\ / /\ /\ \Phil./Ant @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) | |o o| | Ant's Quality Foraged Links: http://aqfl.net \ _ / Nuke ANT from e-mail address: phi...@earthlink.netant ( ) or ant...@zimage.com Ant is currently not listening to any songs on his home computer. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
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On 3/20/2010 1:39 PM PT, Bill Davidsen typed: Libraries. Remember I mentioned the Linux library issues, with the 1.1.19 test requiring loading of an older version of the libc? May be the same thing on Mac, something in the library stuff changed. Don't suppose Mac has those 32/64 bit issues I see with Linux and Windows, needing the other library installed. Would explain why it works for some people, though. Yeah, I am thinking of that too. We need to strace or something of it loading and whatever it does with v1.1.19. I don't have my old PowerBook G4 with Mac OS X 10.2.8 to try it. -- If ants are such busy workers, how come they find time to go to all the picnics? --Marie Dressler /\___/\ / /\ /\ \Phil./Ant @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) | |o o| | Ant's Quality Foraged Links: http://aqfl.net \ _ / Nuke ANT from e-mail address: phi...@earthlink.netant ( ) or ant...@zimage.com Ant is currently not listening to any songs on his home computer. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
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Robert Kaiser wrote: Phillip Jones schrieb: have you go an email address you can send me to my email address and I will make a screen shot of the about Crashes. and send to you two most recent were caused by an older version of Flash and my trying to view a page some one on this group sent that said wouldn't show right it was about a car dealership. Just post the crash IDs (as displayed in about:crashes) here, please. Robert Kaiser (these were caused by flash Plugin) http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/03f6f10f-f738-4d13-8d04-3c0eb2100127 http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/9f52f227-c6ca-42cc-a43f-17d022100314 http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/0365c652-fda6-4cb8-9aca-358bc2100314 http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/b4006c9f-bbee-4086-8dbd-97d2c2100219 http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/6d770450-991c-4bf9-9dc5-951532100128 http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/03f6f10f-f738-4d13-8d04-3c0eb2100127 http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/de2326b0-18ce-445c-a8e7-fe4b22100114 http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/d2688708-f99c-4cef-99b0-ec4f02100114 http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/cd700624-36a0-410a-a9a0-3224c2100112 http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/aac2d429-eaaa-466d-bccf-c25982091228 http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/408f3ae8-02ec-464f-ac54-1965a2091224 http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/dc4f783f-3fe1-4926-81ca-9c3372091223 http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/68e79e92-f679-47b9-a0bc-54c9f2091223 http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/4a35ff2f-41ee-4e1e-8a8f-e0cc12091029 here are the ones that haven't been purged there was another screen full I purged by mistake. Altogether somewhere over 20. and this doesn't count hangs which don't report as crashes. Might be in the crash system Plus there is a bug about going from mail to first post in a newsgroup when hitting the next button doesn't highlight the post and open, just an open box around it and to read that post have to make sure to mark it as unread, shut down SM2 the open again and then you can read the post. and then the status box staying on the screen even after a post is copied and sent. Then there is a problem which a bug has been submitted for every few post show up with odd characters diamonds with question marks boxes with what look like has text in it. Have bugs on all these submitted. I'm not going back to SM1, one of these days it will be crash free. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.net http://www.vpea.org mailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
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Leonidas Jones wrote: On Tiger, Panther, and Jaguar, it will not run. The Dock icon bounces for while then stops. Hmm, interesting. It has been built on Tiger... Robert Kaiser ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
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On 3/19/2010 6:26 AM PT, Robert Kaiser typed: On Tiger, Panther, and Jaguar, it will not run. The Dock icon bounces for while then stops. Hmm, interesting. It has been built on Tiger... Maybe Apple released recent updates after v1.1.18 compilation? -- * -- Tribble ... *** -- Tribbles imitating ants (unknown author) /\___/\ / /\ /\ \Phil./Ant @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) | |o o| | Ant's Quality Foraged Links: http://aqfl.net \ _ / Nuke ANT from e-mail address: phi...@earthlink.netant ( ) or ant...@zimage.com Ant is currently not listening to any songs on his home computer. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
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Ant wrote: On 3/19/2010 6:26 AM PT, Robert Kaiser typed: On Tiger, Panther, and Jaguar, it will not run. The Dock icon bounces for while then stops. Hmm, interesting. It has been built on Tiger... Maybe Apple released recent updates after v1.1.18 compilation? None that I applied on that machine, it's not been changed in months. Robert Kaiser ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
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On 3/18/2010 10:18 PM, Leonidas Jones wrote: Rufus wrote: Rufus wrote: Robert Kaiser wrote: In January 2006, SeaMonkey 1.0 was released, a 1.1 release followed a year later. Another three years later, the SeaMonkey project is discontinuing support for the SeaMonkey 1.x series today in favor of SeaMonkey 2.0, which is not only more modern, but also maintained for stability and security problems. As the SeaMonkey 1.x series no longer receives security updates, due to resource constraints, the SeaMonkey team strongly urges users of that series to upgrade. Additionally, the team continues to strongly urge people still using the old Mozilla Suite or Netscape 4, 6 or 7 to upgrade to the new SeaMonkey 2.0 version. All these older software packages suffer from a large, and steadily increasing, number of security vulnerabilities because they are no longer being maintained. Everyone on reasonably modern operating systems is urged to switch to the newest release available for free download from the open source project's website at www.seamonkey-project.org, providing the familiar suite functionality in a remodernized application with additional features and fully up to date security. For the few who can't afford that, a last 1.x release is available. SeaMonkey 1.1.19 does fix a few security issues, but not all known security vulnerabilites, some of which may even be grave. Those are only fixed in the new SeaMonkey 2.0, which will continue to be maintained for quite some time and updated for any security issues as they might arise, while the team is working on evolving the well-known suite even further in future versions. Full news article: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/news#2010-03-16 Current version downloads: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/ SeaMonkey 1.1.19 downloads: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/1.1.19 Robert Kaiser SeaMonkey project coordinator Have upgraded my 1.1.1 install with 1.1.19, running SnoLep. No issues so far... ...make that 1.1.18. Do you have a a Panther or Jaguar machine up and running? If so, could you try installing 1.1.19 on them? My experience is that SM 1.1.19 bounces in the Dock for a minute, then crashes before opening. Any chance you have crash-stats reports to link us to? -- ~Justin Wood (Callek) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
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Justin Wood (Callek) wrote: My experience is that SM 1.1.19 bounces in the Dock for a minute, then crashes before opening. Any chance you have crash-stats reports to link us to? How could he? We are not delivering any crash reporter with 1.x builds. Robert Kaiser ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
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Ant wrote: On 3/19/2010 6:26 AM PT, Robert Kaiser typed: On Tiger, Panther, and Jaguar, it will not run. The Dock icon bounces for while then stops. Hmm, interesting. It has been built on Tiger... Maybe Apple released recent updates after v1.1.18 compilation? There has been no updates of any kind other than Safari, since Sept 09, not security adjustments , nothing. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.net http://www.vpea.org mailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
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Robert Kaiser wrote: Justin Wood (Callek) wrote: My experience is that SM 1.1.19 bounces in the Dock for a minute, then crashes before opening. Any chance you have crash-stats reports to link us to? How could he? We are not delivering any crash reporter with 1.x builds. Robert Kaiser i.x use to use Full Circle Crash reporter. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.net http://www.vpea.org mailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
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Justin Wood (Callek) wrote: On 3/18/2010 10:18 PM, Leonidas Jones wrote: Rufus wrote: Rufus wrote: Robert Kaiser wrote: In January 2006, SeaMonkey 1.0 was released, a 1.1 release followed a year later. Another three years later, the SeaMonkey project is discontinuing support for the SeaMonkey 1.x series today in favor of SeaMonkey 2.0, which is not only more modern, but also maintained for stability and security problems. As the SeaMonkey 1.x series no longer receives security updates, due to resource constraints, the SeaMonkey team strongly urges users of that series to upgrade. Additionally, the team continues to strongly urge people still using the old Mozilla Suite or Netscape 4, 6 or 7 to upgrade to the new SeaMonkey 2.0 version. All these older software packages suffer from a large, and steadily increasing, number of security vulnerabilities because they are no longer being maintained. Everyone on reasonably modern operating systems is urged to switch to the newest release available for free download from the open source project's website at www.seamonkey-project.org, providing the familiar suite functionality in a remodernized application with additional features and fully up to date security. For the few who can't afford that, a last 1.x release is available. SeaMonkey 1.1.19 does fix a few security issues, but not all known security vulnerabilites, some of which may even be grave. Those are only fixed in the new SeaMonkey 2.0, which will continue to be maintained for quite some time and updated for any security issues as they might arise, while the team is working on evolving the well-known suite even further in future versions. Full news article: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/news#2010-03-16 Current version downloads: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/ SeaMonkey 1.1.19 downloads: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/1.1.19 Robert Kaiser SeaMonkey project coordinator Have upgraded my 1.1.1 install with 1.1.19, running SnoLep. No issues so far... ...make that 1.1.18. Do you have a a Panther or Jaguar machine up and running? If so, could you try installing 1.1.19 on them? My experience is that SM 1.1.19 bounces in the Dock for a minute, then crashes before opening. Any chance you have crash-stats reports to link us to? Noting Robert's comments, even if it were, active, the program doesn't ever actually open, so nothing to report. The Activity Montor shows it active for a few seconds, then it disappears. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
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Leonidas Jones wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Ant wrote: On 3/19/2010 6:26 AM PT, Robert Kaiser typed: On Tiger, Panther, and Jaguar, it will not run. The Dock icon bounces for while then stops. Hmm, interesting. It has been built on Tiger... Maybe Apple released recent updates after v1.1.18 compilation? There has been no updates of any kind other than Safari, since Sept 09, not security adjustments , nothing. Phillip, is it running for you on your Tiger machine? Lee I haven't tried it. I have gone to 2.0.3. I wish I had stayed with 1.1.18. I've had twenty some crashes since I first loaded 2.0. gold. and I've had several Hangs as well. I had a few the first version of 1.x but it was found to be the Full circle Crash Reporter causing the problem. After removing it I had no problems through 1.1.18. I'm wondering if the crash reporter is causing the crashes in SM2. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.net http://www.vpea.org mailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
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Chris Ilias wrote: On 10-03-18 11:42 PM, Leonidas Jones wrote: SM 1.1.19 will not run on any OS pre Leopard. On Leopard and Snow Leopard it installs, picks up the existing profile, and runs exactly as expected. On Tiger, Panther, and Jaguar, it will not run. The Dock icon bounces for while then stops. I tried removing the existing profile folders, to see if it would create a new profile, but no, it just won't start. Note this is tested just on the three machines I have with those versions. I can confirm on Tiger. Thanks Chris, I thought I was going crazy. Robert, since the build was built on Tiger, could there be something about the version available for download that is different? Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
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Phillip Jones wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: Ant wrote: On 3/19/2010 6:26 AM PT, Robert Kaiser typed: On Tiger, Panther, and Jaguar, it will not run. The Dock icon bounces for while then stops. Hmm, interesting. It has been built on Tiger... Maybe Apple released recent updates after v1.1.18 compilation? There has been no updates of any kind other than Safari, since Sept 09, not security adjustments , nothing. Phillip, is it running for you on your Tiger machine? Lee I haven't tried it. I have gone to 2.0.3. I wish I had stayed with 1.1.18. I've had twenty some crashes since I first loaded 2.0. gold. and I've had several Hangs as well. I had a few the first version of 1.x but it was found to be the Full circle Crash Reporter causing the problem. After removing it I had no problems through 1.1.18. I'm wondering if the crash reporter is causing the crashes in SM2. I've got 2.0.4 up and running fne on Tiger, and I would not look back. However, I installed 1.1.19 as test, since I had found the problem on Panther and Jag. More tests would help, I think. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
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On 3/19/2010 1:50 PM, Robert Kaiser wrote: Justin Wood (Callek) wrote: My experience is that SM 1.1.19 bounces in the Dock for a minute, then crashes before opening. Any chance you have crash-stats reports to link us to? How could he? We are not delivering any crash reporter with 1.x builds. Erm right.. :/ was a brain-fart before I left for work. -- ~Justin Wood (Callek) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
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Am 17.03.2010 03:34, schrieb Robert Kaiser: SeaMonkey 2.0, which is not only more modern, but also maintained for stability and security problems. Will there be a Seamonkey 2.X version that refrains from duplicating the whole imap mailstore into the profile without explicit consent from the user? We have hundreds GB mailstores and roaming profiles so this simply doesn't work for us. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=544740 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=505759 -- Matthias ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
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Matthias Kahlert wrote, On 3/18/2010 8:47 AM: Will there be a Seamonkey 2.X version that refrains from duplicating the whole imap mailstore into the profile without explicit consent from the user? Easy: for each Mail account settings, in synchronization and storage uncheck the keep message for this account on this computer ...But I suspect you know that already and want some sort of automated migration preset that takes care of this ? Dominique ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
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Robert Kaiser wrote: I don't say why 1.1.19 shouldn't work in every place where 1.1.18 does work. Sorry, typo, I meant: I don't _know_ why 1.1.19 shouldn't work in every place where 1.1.18 does work. Robert Kaiser ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
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Ant wrote: On 3/16/2010 9:05 PM PT, Leonidas Jones typed: A note for Mac OSX users, SM 1.1.19 does not work on any Mac OSX version prior to Tiger. If you are running Panther or Jaguar, stay with 1.1.18. Wow, how and why did v1.1.19 require higher Mac OS X versions? It's shouldn't. I see no reason why it would. Robert Kaiser ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
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Benoit Renard wrote: I find the subject to be inappropriate, considering that it's about the last release of a branch instead of solely the decision to stop support. A better subject would have been: SeaMonkey 1.1.19 released, end of line for 1.x. No, 1.1.19 is the most insignificant part of the announcement, even though it's the reason why we're timing it to be right now. I wouldn't dare to make the release of a version the major point of an announcement if it's known to have security vulnerabilities right from the first second it's released (like websites being able to request and get your first saved password). Robert Kaiser ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
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Am 2010-03-18 14:47, schrieb Robert Kaiser: Matthias Kahlert wrote: Will there be a Seamonkey 2.X version that refrains from duplicating the whole imap mailstore into the profile without explicit consent from the user? By default, we'll always download all messages to the local machine from It is not downloading to the local machine, it is downloading to the profile which may be part of a roaming windows profile or which may be on a network drive or networked home directory. now on. We'll need that even more once we start using the global message database for globally searching all messages. Shouldn't the user be asked (or at least be informed) if he wants to pay the price of duplicating his complete mailstore for this global search? Shouldn't mail.server.default.autosync_offline_stores = false at least work? -- Matthias ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Support For SeaMonkey 1.x Dropped
Justin Wood (Callek) wrote: On 3/17/2010 12:05 AM, Leonidas Jones wrote: Robert Kaiser wrote: In January 2006, SeaMonkey 1.0 was released, a 1.1 release followed a year later. Another three years later, the SeaMonkey project is discontinuing support for the SeaMonkey 1.x series today in favor of SeaMonkey 2.0, which is not only more modern, but also maintained for stability and security problems. As the SeaMonkey 1.x series no longer receives security updates, due to resource constraints, the SeaMonkey team strongly urges users of that series to upgrade. Additionally, the team continues to strongly urge people still using the old Mozilla Suite or Netscape 4, 6 or 7 to upgrade to the new SeaMonkey 2.0 version. All these older software packages suffer from a large, and steadily increasing, number of security vulnerabilities because they are no longer being maintained. Everyone on reasonably modern operating systems is urged to switch to the newest release available for free download from the open source project's website at www.seamonkey-project.org, providing the familiar suite functionality in a remodernized application with additional features and fully up to date security. For the few who can't afford that, a last 1.x release is available. SeaMonkey 1.1.19 does fix a few security issues, but not all known security vulnerabilites, some of which may even be grave. Those are only fixed in the new SeaMonkey 2.0, which will continue to be maintained for quite some time and updated for any security issues as they might arise, while the team is working on evolving the well-known suite even further in future versions. Full news article: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/news#2010-03-16 Current version downloads: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/ SeaMonkey 1.1.19 downloads: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/1.1.19 Robert Kaiser SeaMonkey project coordinator A note for Mac OSX users, SM 1.1.19 does not work ^ Did you mean SM 2.0; I would be surprised if 1.1.19 changed mac min version; and if it did that sounds like a critical bug to me, can you elaborate here, please? on any Mac OSX version prior to Tiger. If you are running Panther or Jaguar, stay with 1.1.18. If you are using Tiger and above, better to bite the bullet and go to SM 2.0.3. - ~Justin Wood (Callek) All I know is that I tried to install it on both Panther and Jaquar machines, and it would not run. Reverting to 1.1.18 on those boxes got them up and running again. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Support For SeaMonkey 1.x Dropped
Rufus wrote: Rufus wrote: Robert Kaiser wrote: In January 2006, SeaMonkey 1.0 was released, a 1.1 release followed a year later. Another three years later, the SeaMonkey project is discontinuing support for the SeaMonkey 1.x series today in favor of SeaMonkey 2.0, which is not only more modern, but also maintained for stability and security problems. As the SeaMonkey 1.x series no longer receives security updates, due to resource constraints, the SeaMonkey team strongly urges users of that series to upgrade. Additionally, the team continues to strongly urge people still using the old Mozilla Suite or Netscape 4, 6 or 7 to upgrade to the new SeaMonkey 2.0 version. All these older software packages suffer from a large, and steadily increasing, number of security vulnerabilities because they are no longer being maintained. Everyone on reasonably modern operating systems is urged to switch to the newest release available for free download from the open source project's website at www.seamonkey-project.org, providing the familiar suite functionality in a remodernized application with additional features and fully up to date security. For the few who can't afford that, a last 1.x release is available. SeaMonkey 1.1.19 does fix a few security issues, but not all known security vulnerabilites, some of which may even be grave. Those are only fixed in the new SeaMonkey 2.0, which will continue to be maintained for quite some time and updated for any security issues as they might arise, while the team is working on evolving the well-known suite even further in future versions. Full news article: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/news#2010-03-16 Current version downloads: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/ SeaMonkey 1.1.19 downloads: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/1.1.19 Robert Kaiser SeaMonkey project coordinator Have upgraded my 1.1.1 install with 1.1.19, running SnoLep. No issues so far... ...make that 1.1.18. Do you have a a Panther or Jaguar machine up and running? If so, could you try installing 1.1.19 on them? My experience is that SM 1.1.19 bounces in the Dock for a minute, then crashes before opening. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Support For SeaMonkey 1.x Dropped
Leonidas Jones wrote: Justin Wood (Callek) wrote: On 3/17/2010 12:05 AM, Leonidas Jones wrote: Robert Kaiser wrote: In January 2006, SeaMonkey 1.0 was released, a 1.1 release followed a year later. Another three years later, the SeaMonkey project is discontinuing support for the SeaMonkey 1.x series today in favor of SeaMonkey 2.0, which is not only more modern, but also maintained for stability and security problems. As the SeaMonkey 1.x series no longer receives security updates, due to resource constraints, the SeaMonkey team strongly urges users of that series to upgrade. Additionally, the team continues to strongly urge people still using the old Mozilla Suite or Netscape 4, 6 or 7 to upgrade to the new SeaMonkey 2.0 version. All these older software packages suffer from a large, and steadily increasing, number of security vulnerabilities because they are no longer being maintained. Everyone on reasonably modern operating systems is urged to switch to the newest release available for free download from the open source project's website at www.seamonkey-project.org, providing the familiar suite functionality in a remodernized application with additional features and fully up to date security. For the few who can't afford that, a last 1.x release is available. SeaMonkey 1.1.19 does fix a few security issues, but not all known security vulnerabilites, some of which may even be grave. Those are only fixed in the new SeaMonkey 2.0, which will continue to be maintained for quite some time and updated for any security issues as they might arise, while the team is working on evolving the well-known suite even further in future versions. Full news article: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/news#2010-03-16 Current version downloads: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/ SeaMonkey 1.1.19 downloads: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/1.1.19 Robert Kaiser SeaMonkey project coordinator A note for Mac OSX users, SM 1.1.19 does not work ^ Did you mean SM 2.0; I would be surprised if 1.1.19 changed mac min version; and if it did that sounds like a critical bug to me, can you elaborate here, please? on any Mac OSX version prior to Tiger. If you are running Panther or Jaguar, stay with 1.1.18. If you are using Tiger and above, better to bite the bullet and go to SM 2.0.3. - ~Justin Wood (Callek) All I know is that I tried to install it on both Panther and Jaquar machines, and it would not run. Reverting to 1.1.18 on those boxes got them up and running again. Lee I just tried a new download of 1.1.19 on Pnther. When installed, when I click on the Dock icon to ope it, the icon bounces for about 20 seconds, then stops. It doesn't open. Reverting to 1.1.18 fixes it. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Support For SeaMonkey 1.x Dropped
Matthias Kahlert wrote: Shouldn't the user be asked (or at least be informed) if he wants to pay the price of duplicating his complete mailstore for this global search? It is a pref after all, the user can set it differently. But by default, downloading is on, and for the vast majority of people this means the local machine. It might be worth looking into (if you have the developer time) to make this download into local settings (or whatever it's actually called, I'm a bit weak on Windows stuff) and not the roaming profile. Robert Kaiser ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Support For SeaMonkey 1.x Dropped
Leonidas Jones wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: Justin Wood (Callek) wrote: On 3/17/2010 12:05 AM, Leonidas Jones wrote: Robert Kaiser wrote: In January 2006, SeaMonkey 1.0 was released, a 1.1 release followed a year later. Another three years later, the SeaMonkey project is discontinuing support for the SeaMonkey 1.x series today in favor of SeaMonkey 2.0, which is not only more modern, but also maintained for stability and security problems. As the SeaMonkey 1.x series no longer receives security updates, due to resource constraints, the SeaMonkey team strongly urges users of that series to upgrade. Additionally, the team continues to strongly urge people still using the old Mozilla Suite or Netscape 4, 6 or 7 to upgrade to the new SeaMonkey 2.0 version. All these older software packages suffer from a large, and steadily increasing, number of security vulnerabilities because they are no longer being maintained. Everyone on reasonably modern operating systems is urged to switch to the newest release available for free download from the open source project's website at www.seamonkey-project.org, providing the familiar suite functionality in a remodernized application with additional features and fully up to date security. For the few who can't afford that, a last 1.x release is available. SeaMonkey 1.1.19 does fix a few security issues, but not all known security vulnerabilites, some of which may even be grave. Those are only fixed in the new SeaMonkey 2.0, which will continue to be maintained for quite some time and updated for any security issues as they might arise, while the team is working on evolving the well-known suite even further in future versions. Full news article: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/news#2010-03-16 Current version downloads: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/ SeaMonkey 1.1.19 downloads: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/1.1.19 Robert Kaiser SeaMonkey project coordinator A note for Mac OSX users, SM 1.1.19 does not work ^ Did you mean SM 2.0; I would be surprised if 1.1.19 changed mac min version; and if it did that sounds like a critical bug to me, can you elaborate here, please? on any Mac OSX version prior to Tiger. If you are running Panther or Jaguar, stay with 1.1.18. If you are using Tiger and above, better to bite the bullet and go to SM 2.0.3. - ~Justin Wood (Callek) All I know is that I tried to install it on both Panther and Jaquar machines, and it would not run. Reverting to 1.1.18 on those boxes got them up and running again. Lee I just tried a new download of 1.1.19 on Panther. When installed, when I click on the Dock icon to ope it, the icon bounces for about 20 seconds, then stops. It doesn't open. Reverting to 1.1.18 fixes it. Lee Okay, first of all, let me back off a bit. I have a lot of Mac's, but only one running Panther, one Jaguar, and one Tiger, for test purposes, so this is a really small sample size. More folks testing on the older Mac versions would help. So here is where I am, and its a little worse then I thought. SM 1.1.19 will not run on any OS pre Leopard. On Leopard and Snow Leopard it installs, picks up the existing profile, and runs exactly as expected. On Tiger, Panther, and Jaguar, it will not run. The Dock icon bounces for while then stops. I tried removing the existing profile folders, to see if it would create a new profile, but no, it just won't start. Note this is tested just on the three machines I have with those versions. For what its worth, I did install it on Win 98 SE, and it runs exactly as expected, so it appears to be a Mac issue only. I would really like to see some other input. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Support For SeaMonkey 1.x Dropped
Leonidas Jones wrote: A note for Mac OSX users, SM 1.1.19 does not work on any Mac OSX version prior to Tiger. If you are running Panther or Jaguar, stay with 1.1.18. Why that? Can you pinpoint a reason? I don't say why 1.1.19 shouldn't work in every place where 1.1.18 does work. Robert Kaiser ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Support For SeaMonkey 1.x Dropped
Hello, Can you say if a french version should be released ? (then french pack doesn't translate all menu and message)? sicerly Bertrand Robert Kaiser a écrit : In January 2006, SeaMonkey 1.0 was released, a 1.1 release followed a year later. Another three years later, the SeaMonkey project is discontinuing support for the SeaMonkey 1.x series today in favor of SeaMonkey 2.0, which is not only more modern, but also maintained for stability and security problems. As the SeaMonkey 1.x series no longer receives security updates, due to resource constraints, the SeaMonkey team strongly urges users of that series to upgrade. Additionally, the team continues to strongly urge people still using the old Mozilla Suite or Netscape 4, 6 or 7 to upgrade to the new SeaMonkey 2.0 version. All these older software packages suffer from a large, and steadily increasing, number of security vulnerabilities because they are no longer being maintained. Everyone on reasonably modern operating systems is urged to switch to the newest release available for free download from the open source project's website at www.seamonkey-project.org, providing the familiar suite functionality in a remodernized application with additional features and fully up to date security. For the few who can't afford that, a last 1.x release is available. SeaMonkey 1.1.19 does fix a few security issues, but not all known security vulnerabilites, some of which may even be grave. Those are only fixed in the new SeaMonkey 2.0, which will continue to be maintained for quite some time and updated for any security issues as they might arise, while the team is working on evolving the well-known suite even further in future versions. Full news article: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/news#2010-03-16 Current version downloads: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/ SeaMonkey 1.1.19 downloads: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/1.1.19 Robert Kaiser SeaMonkey project coordinator ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Support For SeaMonkey 1.x Dropped
I find the subject to be inappropriate, considering that it's about the last release of a branch instead of solely the decision to stop support. A better subject would have been: SeaMonkey 1.1.19 released, end of line for 1.x. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Support For SeaMonkey 1.x Dropped
Robert Kaiser wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: A note for Mac OSX users, SM 1.1.19 does not work on any Mac OSX version prior to Tiger. If you are running Panther or Jaguar, stay with 1.1.18. Why that? Can you pinpoint a reason? I don't say why 1.1.19 shouldn't work in every place where 1.1.18 does work. Robert Kaiser maybe Lee has tried on a Pre Tiger version and it failed. I gone to far into 2.0 to turn back now. I'm having to put up with slower operation hangs and outright crashes. Something I had had in SM 1.x after I deep sixed the crash reporter(was rock solid) (have had over twenty since SeaMonkey 2 came out I still have 18 listed in about crashes. I had more but I made the mistake of clearing those out. I've gone the usual route of disabling all extensions, starting safe mode. I suspect that Despite having 2GB RAM and 1.67GB SM 2 is pushing the envelope. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.net http://www.vpea.org mailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Support For SeaMonkey 1.x Dropped
On 3/17/2010 1:18 PM, Benoit Renard wrote: I find the subject to be inappropriate, considering that it's about the last release of a branch instead of solely the decision to stop support. A better subject would have been: SeaMonkey 1.1.19 released, end of line for 1.x. Hmmm, I had no trouble understanding the subject or content of the message. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Support For SeaMonkey 1.x Dropped
Benoit Renard wrote: I find the subject to be inappropriate, considering that it's about the last release of a branch instead of solely the decision to stop support. A better subject would have been: SeaMonkey 1.1.19 released, end of line for 1.x. At first, I thought you were splitting hairs, and was about to say so ... until I realized it did mean the last release of 1.xx had been released. Which lends credibility to the point you are making. I am waiting for 2.1 to be published to make a final decision about Seamonkey. So far, although I am a Netscape, Mozilla Suite and Seamonkey guy, I must admit I ended up using FF 3.5 (FF does not work adequately with my LCL bank) and TB3. For some reason I would be hard pressed to state. So, I am keeping an eye open, but for the time being, SM 2.xx is not for me and I sincerely regret it. I am installing SM 1.19 (thank you for make me realize it is there!). -- John Doue ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Support For SeaMonkey 1.x Dropped
Benoit Renard wrote: I find the subject to be inappropriate, considering that it's about the last release of a branch instead of solely the decision to stop support. A better subject would have been: SeaMonkey 1.1.19 released, end of line for 1.x. At first, I thought you were splitting hairs, and was about to say so ... until I realized it did mean the last release of 1.xx had been released. Which lends credibility to the point you are making. I am waiting for 2.1 to be published to make a final decision about Seamonkey. So far, although I am a Netscape, Mozilla Suite and Seamonkey guy, I must admit I ended up using FF 3.5 (FF does not work adequately with my LCL bank) and TB3. For some reason I would be hard pressed to state exactly why FF and TB appear to be more appealing. So, I am keeping an eye open, but for the time being, SM 2.xx is not for me and I sincerely regret it. I am installing SM 1.19 (thank you for make me realize it is there!). -- John Doue ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Support For SeaMonkey 1.x Dropped
Robert Kaiser wrote: In January 2006, SeaMonkey 1.0 was released, a 1.1 release followed a year later. Another three years later, the SeaMonkey project is discontinuing support for the SeaMonkey 1.x series today in favor of SeaMonkey 2.0, which is not only more modern, but also maintained for stability and security problems. As the SeaMonkey 1.x series no longer receives security updates, due to resource constraints, the SeaMonkey team strongly urges users of that series to upgrade. Additionally, the team continues to strongly urge people still using the old Mozilla Suite or Netscape 4, 6 or 7 to upgrade to the new SeaMonkey 2.0 version. All these older software packages suffer from a large, and steadily increasing, number of security vulnerabilities because they are no longer being maintained. Everyone on reasonably modern operating systems is urged to switch to the newest release available for free download from the open source project's website at www.seamonkey-project.org, providing the familiar suite functionality in a remodernized application with additional features and fully up to date security. For the few who can't afford that, a last 1.x release is available. SeaMonkey 1.1.19 does fix a few security issues, but not all known security vulnerabilites, some of which may even be grave. Those are only fixed in the new SeaMonkey 2.0, which will continue to be maintained for quite some time and updated for any security issues as they might arise, while the team is working on evolving the well-known suite even further in future versions. Full news article: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/news#2010-03-16 Current version downloads: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/ SeaMonkey 1.1.19 downloads: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/1.1.19 Robert Kaiser SeaMonkey project coordinator Have upgraded my 1.1.1 install with 1.1.19, running SnoLep. No issues so far... -- - Rufus ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Support For SeaMonkey 1.x Dropped
Rufus wrote: Robert Kaiser wrote: In January 2006, SeaMonkey 1.0 was released, a 1.1 release followed a year later. Another three years later, the SeaMonkey project is discontinuing support for the SeaMonkey 1.x series today in favor of SeaMonkey 2.0, which is not only more modern, but also maintained for stability and security problems. As the SeaMonkey 1.x series no longer receives security updates, due to resource constraints, the SeaMonkey team strongly urges users of that series to upgrade. Additionally, the team continues to strongly urge people still using the old Mozilla Suite or Netscape 4, 6 or 7 to upgrade to the new SeaMonkey 2.0 version. All these older software packages suffer from a large, and steadily increasing, number of security vulnerabilities because they are no longer being maintained. Everyone on reasonably modern operating systems is urged to switch to the newest release available for free download from the open source project's website at www.seamonkey-project.org, providing the familiar suite functionality in a remodernized application with additional features and fully up to date security. For the few who can't afford that, a last 1.x release is available. SeaMonkey 1.1.19 does fix a few security issues, but not all known security vulnerabilites, some of which may even be grave. Those are only fixed in the new SeaMonkey 2.0, which will continue to be maintained for quite some time and updated for any security issues as they might arise, while the team is working on evolving the well-known suite even further in future versions. Full news article: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/news#2010-03-16 Current version downloads: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/ SeaMonkey 1.1.19 downloads: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/1.1.19 Robert Kaiser SeaMonkey project coordinator Have upgraded my 1.1.1 install with 1.1.19, running SnoLep. No issues so far... ...make that 1.1.18. -- - Rufus ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Support For SeaMonkey 1.x Dropped
On 03/16/2010 07:34 PM, Robert Kaiser wrote: In January 2006, SeaMonkey 1.0 was released, a 1.1 release followed a year later. Another three years later, the SeaMonkey project is discontinuing support for the SeaMonkey 1.x series today in favor of SeaMonkey 2.0, which is not only more modern, but also maintained for stability and security problems. Thank you! ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Support For SeaMonkey 1.x Dropped
On 3/16/2010 9:05 PM PT, Leonidas Jones typed: A note for Mac OSX users, SM 1.1.19 does not work on any Mac OSX version prior to Tiger. If you are running Panther or Jaguar, stay with 1.1.18. Wow, how and why did v1.1.19 require higher Mac OS X versions? It's not like changing to v2. Thanks for the tip for my 2002 PowerBook G4 with Mac OS X 10.2.8. :( -- He who runs from the white ant may stumble upon the stinging ant. --Nigeria /\___/\ / /\ /\ \Phil./Ant @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) | |o o| | Ant's Quality Foraged Links: http://aqfl.net \ _ / Nuke ANT from e-mail address: phi...@earthlink.netant ( ) or ant...@zimage.com Ant is currently not listening to any songs on his home computer. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Support For SeaMonkey 1.x Dropped
In January 2006, SeaMonkey 1.0 was released, a 1.1 release followed a year later. Another three years later, the SeaMonkey project is discontinuing support for the SeaMonkey 1.x series today in favor of SeaMonkey 2.0, which is not only more modern, but also maintained for stability and security problems. As the SeaMonkey 1.x series no longer receives security updates, due to resource constraints, the SeaMonkey team strongly urges users of that series to upgrade. Additionally, the team continues to strongly urge people still using the old Mozilla Suite or Netscape 4, 6 or 7 to upgrade to the new SeaMonkey 2.0 version. All these older software packages suffer from a large, and steadily increasing, number of security vulnerabilities because they are no longer being maintained. Everyone on reasonably modern operating systems is urged to switch to the newest release available for free download from the open source project's website at www.seamonkey-project.org, providing the familiar suite functionality in a remodernized application with additional features and fully up to date security. For the few who can't afford that, a last 1.x release is available. SeaMonkey 1.1.19 does fix a few security issues, but not all known security vulnerabilites, some of which may even be grave. Those are only fixed in the new SeaMonkey 2.0, which will continue to be maintained for quite some time and updated for any security issues as they might arise, while the team is working on evolving the well-known suite even further in future versions. Full news article: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/news#2010-03-16 Current version downloads: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/ SeaMonkey 1.1.19 downloads: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/1.1.19 Robert Kaiser SeaMonkey project coordinator ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Support For SeaMonkey 1.x Dropped
Robert Kaiser wrote: In January 2006, SeaMonkey 1.0 was released, a 1.1 release followed a year later. Another three years later, the SeaMonkey project is discontinuing support for the SeaMonkey 1.x series today in favor of SeaMonkey 2.0, which is not only more modern, but also maintained for stability and security problems. As the SeaMonkey 1.x series no longer receives security updates, due to resource constraints, the SeaMonkey team strongly urges users of that series to upgrade. Additionally, the team continues to strongly urge people still using the old Mozilla Suite or Netscape 4, 6 or 7 to upgrade to the new SeaMonkey 2.0 version. All these older software packages suffer from a large, and steadily increasing, number of security vulnerabilities because they are no longer being maintained. Everyone on reasonably modern operating systems is urged to switch to the newest release available for free download from the open source project's website at www.seamonkey-project.org, providing the familiar suite functionality in a remodernized application with additional features and fully up to date security. For the few who can't afford that, a last 1.x release is available. SeaMonkey 1.1.19 does fix a few security issues, but not all known security vulnerabilites, some of which may even be grave. Those are only fixed in the new SeaMonkey 2.0, which will continue to be maintained for quite some time and updated for any security issues as they might arise, while the team is working on evolving the well-known suite even further in future versions. Full news article: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/news#2010-03-16 Current version downloads: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/ SeaMonkey 1.1.19 downloads: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/1.1.19 Robert Kaiser SeaMonkey project coordinator A note for Mac OSX users, SM 1.1.19 does not work on any Mac OSX version prior to Tiger. If you are running Panther or Jaguar, stay with 1.1.18. If you are using Tiger and above, better to bite the bullet and go to SM 2.0.3. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Support For SeaMonkey 1.x Dropped
On 3/17/2010 12:05 AM, Leonidas Jones wrote: Robert Kaiser wrote: In January 2006, SeaMonkey 1.0 was released, a 1.1 release followed a year later. Another three years later, the SeaMonkey project is discontinuing support for the SeaMonkey 1.x series today in favor of SeaMonkey 2.0, which is not only more modern, but also maintained for stability and security problems. As the SeaMonkey 1.x series no longer receives security updates, due to resource constraints, the SeaMonkey team strongly urges users of that series to upgrade. Additionally, the team continues to strongly urge people still using the old Mozilla Suite or Netscape 4, 6 or 7 to upgrade to the new SeaMonkey 2.0 version. All these older software packages suffer from a large, and steadily increasing, number of security vulnerabilities because they are no longer being maintained. Everyone on reasonably modern operating systems is urged to switch to the newest release available for free download from the open source project's website at www.seamonkey-project.org, providing the familiar suite functionality in a remodernized application with additional features and fully up to date security. For the few who can't afford that, a last 1.x release is available. SeaMonkey 1.1.19 does fix a few security issues, but not all known security vulnerabilites, some of which may even be grave. Those are only fixed in the new SeaMonkey 2.0, which will continue to be maintained for quite some time and updated for any security issues as they might arise, while the team is working on evolving the well-known suite even further in future versions. Full news article: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/news#2010-03-16 Current version downloads: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/ SeaMonkey 1.1.19 downloads: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/1.1.19 Robert Kaiser SeaMonkey project coordinator A note for Mac OSX users, SM 1.1.19 does not work ^ Did you mean SM 2.0; I would be surprised if 1.1.19 changed mac min version; and if it did that sounds like a critical bug to me, can you elaborate here, please? on any Mac OSX version prior to Tiger. If you are running Panther or Jaguar, stay with 1.1.18. If you are using Tiger and above, better to bite the bullet and go to SM 2.0.3. - ~Justin Wood (Callek) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
