Re: Too many messages

2015-01-18 Thread Daniel

On 18/01/15 04:35, Chris Ilias wrote:

On 2015-01-16 8:53 AM, Daniel wrote:

On 16/01/15 14:15, Chris Ilias wrote:

On 2015-01-15 7:29 AM, Daniel wrote:

On 15/01/15 22:43, Chris Ilias wrote:


No; when a message is sent to the list, a copy gets sent to your email
address. That's all.


Oh, sorry, Chris, I thought the list server just sent me one (giant)
e-mail, containing all the posts since I last connected.

How come, then, we sometimes see posts to the News Server with Subjects
like support-seamonkey Digest, Vol 105, Issue 89

Are these something different again??


Mailing list subscribers have the option of getting all messages from
that day sent in one digest.


. but not the messages posted on previous days?? Again, if I had not
been on line for a week, would I then have to File-Get Next nnn
Messages, or something?? Or would I get a weeks worth of these daily
update e-mails (Vol 105, Issues 89-95 maybe!!)??


A separate digest for each day.


(Not that I want to connect that way, yet, but) Thanks for this, Chris.

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Re: Too many messages

2015-01-18 Thread Daniel

On 18/01/15 13:30, »Q« wrote:

In news:6codnywm1a0niitjnz2dnuu7-k-dn...@mozilla.org,
Daniel dan...@albury.net.spam.au wrote:


On 16/01/15 14:15, Chris Ilias wrote:



Mailing list subscribers have the option of getting all messages
from that day sent in one digest.


 but not the messages posted on previous days?? Again, if I had
not been on line for a week, would I then have to File-Get Next nnn
Messages, or something?? Or would I get a weeks worth of these daily
update e-mails (Vol 105, Issues 89-95 maybe!!)??


Once subscribed to a list, there are three options:

  - Receive each post via e-mail.

  - Receive one digest e-mail per day;  each digest has all the posts
since the previous digest.

  - Receive nothing.

If you've selected either of the first two options, you get the e-mails
whenever you pull them from your mail server.


Thanks for this, Q.

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Re: Too many messages

2015-01-17 Thread Chris Ilias

On 2015-01-16 8:53 AM, Daniel wrote:

On 16/01/15 14:15, Chris Ilias wrote:

On 2015-01-15 7:29 AM, Daniel wrote:

On 15/01/15 22:43, Chris Ilias wrote:


No; when a message is sent to the list, a copy gets sent to your email
address. That's all.


Oh, sorry, Chris, I thought the list server just sent me one (giant)
e-mail, containing all the posts since I last connected.

How come, then, we sometimes see posts to the News Server with Subjects
like support-seamonkey Digest, Vol 105, Issue 89

Are these something different again??


Mailing list subscribers have the option of getting all messages from
that day sent in one digest.


. but not the messages posted on previous days?? Again, if I had not
been on line for a week, would I then have to File-Get Next nnn
Messages, or something?? Or would I get a weeks worth of these daily
update e-mails (Vol 105, Issues 89-95 maybe!!)??


A separate digest for each day.

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Re: Too many messages

2015-01-17 Thread »Q«
In news:6codnywm1a0niitjnz2dnuu7-k-dn...@mozilla.org,
Daniel dan...@albury.net.spam.au wrote:

 On 16/01/15 14:15, Chris Ilias wrote:

  Mailing list subscribers have the option of getting all messages
  from that day sent in one digest.
 
  but not the messages posted on previous days?? Again, if I had
 not been on line for a week, would I then have to File-Get Next nnn 
 Messages, or something?? Or would I get a weeks worth of these daily 
 update e-mails (Vol 105, Issues 89-95 maybe!!)??

Once subscribed to a list, there are three options:

 - Receive each post via e-mail.

 - Receive one digest e-mail per day;  each digest has all the posts
   since the previous digest.

 - Receive nothing.

If you've selected either of the first two options, you get the e-mails
whenever you pull them from your mail server.
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Re: Too many messages

2015-01-16 Thread Daniel

On 16/01/15 14:15, Chris Ilias wrote:

On 2015-01-15 7:29 AM, Daniel wrote:

On 15/01/15 22:43, Chris Ilias wrote:


No; when a message is sent to the list, a copy gets sent to your email
address. That's all.


Oh, sorry, Chris, I thought the list server just sent me one (giant)
e-mail, containing all the posts since I last connected.

How come, then, we sometimes see posts to the News Server with Subjects
like support-seamonkey Digest, Vol 105, Issue 89

Are these something different again??


Mailing list subscribers have the option of getting all messages from
that day sent in one digest.

 but not the messages posted on previous days?? Again, if I had not 
been on line for a week, would I then have to File-Get Next nnn 
Messages, or something?? Or would I get a weeks worth of these daily 
update e-mails (Vol 105, Issues 89-95 maybe!!)??


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Re: Too many messages

2015-01-15 Thread Chris Ilias

On 2015-01-15 7:29 AM, Daniel wrote:

On 15/01/15 22:43, Chris Ilias wrote:


No; when a message is sent to the list, a copy gets sent to your email
address. That's all.


Oh, sorry, Chris, I thought the list server just sent me one (giant)
e-mail, containing all the posts since I last connected.

How come, then, we sometimes see posts to the News Server with Subjects
like support-seamonkey Digest, Vol 105, Issue 89

Are these something different again??


Mailing list subscribers have the option of getting all messages from 
that day sent in one digest.


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Re: Too many messages

2015-01-15 Thread Chris Ilias

On 2015-01-15 12:47 AM, Daniel wrote:

On 14/01/15 22:55, Chris Ilias wrote:

On 2015-01-14 4:43 AM, Daniel wrote:

On 13/01/15 22:40, Chris Ilias wrote:

On 2015-01-12 10:42 AM, Jonathan N. Little wrote:

Mark also has a bit of a problem differentiating between NNTP and SMTP
and has posted to emails instead of to newsgroups.


The newsgroup and mailing list bidirectionally mirror each other. When
someone posts to the mailing list, it appears in the newsgroup as well,
and when someone posts to the newsgroup, it gets sent to the mailing
list as well.


Chris, if I were to be subscribing to the lists, but hadn't been here
for a week or so, would the list server request the latest message
number my computer had received from this group, and then send me an
e-mail containing all the more recent posts??


No; the mailing list doesn't know if you're subscribed to the newsgroup.


So, then, if I were only subscribed to the mailing list, does the list
server keep a record of which posts it has sent me??


No; when a message is sent to the list, a copy gets sent to your email 
address. That's all.


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Re: Too many messages

2015-01-15 Thread Daniel

On 15/01/15 22:43, Chris Ilias wrote:

On 2015-01-15 12:47 AM, Daniel wrote:

On 14/01/15 22:55, Chris Ilias wrote:

On 2015-01-14 4:43 AM, Daniel wrote:

On 13/01/15 22:40, Chris Ilias wrote:

On 2015-01-12 10:42 AM, Jonathan N. Little wrote:

Mark also has a bit of a problem differentiating between NNTP and
SMTP
and has posted to emails instead of to newsgroups.


The newsgroup and mailing list bidirectionally mirror each other. When
someone posts to the mailing list, it appears in the newsgroup as
well,
and when someone posts to the newsgroup, it gets sent to the mailing
list as well.


Chris, if I were to be subscribing to the lists, but hadn't been here
for a week or so, would the list server request the latest message
number my computer had received from this group, and then send me an
e-mail containing all the more recent posts??


No; the mailing list doesn't know if you're subscribed to the newsgroup.


So, then, if I were only subscribed to the mailing list, does the list
server keep a record of which posts it has sent me??


No; when a message is sent to the list, a copy gets sent to your email
address. That's all.


Oh, sorry, Chris, I thought the list server just sent me one (giant) 
e-mail, containing all the posts since I last connected.


How come, then, we sometimes see posts to the News Server with Subjects 
like support-seamonkey Digest, Vol 105, Issue 89


Are these something different again??

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Re: Too many messages

2015-01-15 Thread JAS




How come, then, we sometimes see posts to the News Server with 
Subjects like support-seamonkey Digest, Vol 105, Issue 89


Are these something different again??

I think when you subscribe to the list server you and opt to have it 
either way??


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Re: Too many messages

2015-01-14 Thread Daniel

On 14/01/15 22:55, Chris Ilias wrote:

On 2015-01-14 4:43 AM, Daniel wrote:

On 13/01/15 22:40, Chris Ilias wrote:

On 2015-01-12 10:42 AM, Jonathan N. Little wrote:

Mark also has a bit of a problem differentiating between NNTP and SMTP
and has posted to emails instead of to newsgroups.


The newsgroup and mailing list bidirectionally mirror each other. When
someone posts to the mailing list, it appears in the newsgroup as well,
and when someone posts to the newsgroup, it gets sent to the mailing
list as well.


Chris, if I were to be subscribing to the lists, but hadn't been here
for a week or so, would the list server request the latest message
number my computer had received from this group, and then send me an
e-mail containing all the more recent posts??


No; the mailing list doesn't know if you're subscribed to the newsgroup.

So, then, if I were only subscribed to the mailing list, does the list 
server keep a record of which posts it has sent me??


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Re: Too many messages

2015-01-14 Thread Daniel

On 14/01/15 01:47, Jonathan N. Little wrote:

Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:


Since he receives (and sends) to the group via the email list-serv, I
figure that he assumes the group is only accessible via email messages. A
lot of people don't realize there are three ways of posting:  email,
Google Groups, and newsreader news posts.



Yes I have just been emailed by another list-serviod. They seem to have
the all the shortcomings of the GoogleGrouper. Can't quote. can't snip
sigs, can't keep the conversion on the newsgroup, ...

Yes, most ISP have dropped NNTP, but there are still free newsservers
out there including this one provided by mozilla. Since they are already
using a application that included a news client then why not just
subscribed to the newsgroup *directly* and avoid confusing it with their
email?


Could it be that they think that all the posts will then reside on 
their computer hard drive, taking up space?? Or, maybe they think News 
servers are like File Sharing servers, and everyone will be downloading 
these groups from their hard drives??


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Re: Too many messages

2015-01-14 Thread Daniel

On 13/01/15 22:40, Chris Ilias wrote:

On 2015-01-12 10:42 AM, Jonathan N. Little wrote:

Mark also has a bit of a problem differentiating between NNTP and SMTP
and has posted to emails instead of to newsgroups.


The newsgroup and mailing list bidirectionally mirror each other. When
someone posts to the mailing list, it appears in the newsgroup as well,
and when someone posts to the newsgroup, it gets sent to the mailing
list as well.

Chris, if I were to be subscribing to the lists, but hadn't been here 
for a week or so, would the list server request the latest message 
number my computer had received from this group, and then send me an 
e-mail containing all the more recent posts??


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Re: Too many messages

2015-01-14 Thread Chris Ilias

On 2015-01-14 4:43 AM, Daniel wrote:

On 13/01/15 22:40, Chris Ilias wrote:

On 2015-01-12 10:42 AM, Jonathan N. Little wrote:

Mark also has a bit of a problem differentiating between NNTP and SMTP
and has posted to emails instead of to newsgroups.


The newsgroup and mailing list bidirectionally mirror each other. When
someone posts to the mailing list, it appears in the newsgroup as well,
and when someone posts to the newsgroup, it gets sent to the mailing
list as well.


Chris, if I were to be subscribing to the lists, but hadn't been here
for a week or so, would the list server request the latest message
number my computer had received from this group, and then send me an
e-mail containing all the more recent posts??


No; the mailing list doesn't know if you're subscribed to the newsgroup.

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Re: Too many messages

2015-01-13 Thread Jonathan N. Little

Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:


Since he receives (and sends) to the group via the email list-serv, I
figure that he assumes the group is only accessible via email messages. A
lot of people don't realize there are three ways of posting:  email,
Google Groups, and newsreader news posts.



Yes I have just been emailed by another list-serviod. They seem to have 
the all the shortcomings of the GoogleGrouper. Can't quote. can't snip 
sigs, can't keep the conversion on the newsgroup, ...


Yes, most ISP have dropped NNTP, but there are still free newsservers 
out there including this one provided by mozilla. Since they are already 
using a application that included a news client then why not just 
subscribed to the newsgroup *directly* and avoid confusing it with their 
email?


http://ilias.ca/moznewsgroups-sm

It would help solve all these cross-posting, filtering, replying, 
quoting, HTML format (verboten), attachment (verboten), questions...


Additionally you can then take advantage of newsgroup enhancement 
extension Mnenhy.


http://mnenhy.mozdev.org/

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Re: Too many messages

2015-01-13 Thread Cruz, Jaime

Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

Mark DeWolf wrote:


I recently signed on to Sea Monkey’s e-mail service but now I’m
receiving messages from all sorts of people on topics I know nothing
about.  Please remove me from any list I may be on.


Mark, you are in control. The answer is included in every post you make.

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that since they are the ones who added themselves, they can also REMOVE 
themselves. I see it ALL the time in forums and I just shake my head.


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Re: Too many messages

2015-01-13 Thread Chris Ilias

On 2015-01-12 10:42 AM, Jonathan N. Little wrote:

Mark also has a bit of a problem differentiating between NNTP and SMTP
and has posted to emails instead of to newsgroups.


The newsgroup and mailing list bidirectionally mirror each other. When 
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and when someone posts to the newsgroup, it gets sent to the mailing 
list as well.


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Too many messages

2015-01-12 Thread Mark DeWolf
Hi there.

I recently signed on to Sea Monkey’s e-mail service but now I’m receiving 
messages from all sorts of people on topics I know nothing about.  Please 
remove me from any list I may be on.

Thanks,

Mark DeWolf
Halifax

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Re: Too many messages

2015-01-12 Thread Beauregard T. Shagnasty
Mark DeWolf wrote:

 I recently signed on to Sea Monkey’s e-mail service but now I’m
 receiving messages from all sorts of people on topics I know nothing
 about.  Please remove me from any list I may be on.

Mark, you are in control. The answer is included in every post you make.

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Re: Too many messages

2015-01-12 Thread WaltS48

On 01/12/2015 10:42 AM, Jonathan N. Little wrote:

Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

Mark DeWolf wrote:


I recently signed on to Sea Monkey’s e-mail service but now I’m
receiving messages from all sorts of people on topics I know nothing
about.  Please remove me from any list I may be on.


Mark, you are in control. The answer is included in every post you make.

List-Unsubscribe: https://lists.mozilla.org/options/support-seamonkey,
mailto:support-seamonkey-requ...@lists.mozilla.org?
subject=unsubscribe

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the
unsubscribe step for each one.



Mark also has a bit of a problem differentiating between NNTP and SMTP
and has posted to emails instead of to newsgroups.




One wonders what Mark was looking for by subscribing to the SeaMonkey 
support mailing list. I wouldn't exactly know what e-mail service means.


Perhaps he would like to subscribe to the RSS feed for project news?

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Re: Too many messages

2015-01-12 Thread Jonathan N. Little

Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

Mark DeWolf wrote:


I recently signed on to Sea Monkey’s e-mail service but now I’m
receiving messages from all sorts of people on topics I know nothing
about.  Please remove me from any list I may be on.


Mark, you are in control. The answer is included in every post you make.

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mailto:support-seamonkey-requ...@lists.mozilla.org?
subject=unsubscribe

If you have subscribed to multiple support groups, you will have to do the
unsubscribe step for each one.



Mark also has a bit of a problem differentiating between NNTP and SMTP 
and has posted to emails instead of to newsgroups.


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Re: Too many messages

2015-01-12 Thread Beauregard T. Shagnasty
WaltS48 wrote:

 Jonathan N. Little wrote:
 Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
 Mark DeWolf wrote:
 I recently signed on to Sea Monkey’s e-mail service but now I’m
 receiving messages from all sorts of people on topics I know nothing
 about.  Please remove me from any list I may be on.

 Mark, you are in control. The answer is included in every post you
 make.

 List-Unsubscribe:
 https://lists.mozilla.org/options/support-seamonkey,
 mailto:support-seamonkey-requ...@lists.mozilla.org?
 subject=unsubscribe

 If you have subscribed to multiple support groups, you will have to do
 the unsubscribe step for each one.

 Mark also has a bit of a problem differentiating between NNTP and SMTP
 and has posted to emails instead of to newsgroups.
 
 One wonders what Mark was looking for by subscribing to the SeaMonkey
 support mailing list. I wouldn't exactly know what e-mail service means.

Since he receives (and sends) to the group via the email list-serv, I 
figure that he assumes the group is only accessible via email messages. A 
lot of people don't realize there are three ways of posting:  email, 
Google Groups, and newsreader news posts.

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