Re: How can i see the buttons "Etape précédente" and "Etape suivante" in a tutorial site

[Ray_Net]

Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote:



Ray_Net wrote:


This is ok if you speak about rendering of a page - This page must look always 
the same. It's abnormal when we closed the google-bar once, this google-bar did 
not show anymore. I have explained the problem of the invisible buttons to the 
webmaster - and i cannot sent him a screenshot of the problem, because de 
invisible buttons is perfect now, because the google-bar is not showed anymore.


I'm sorry, I cannot agree, Ray.  Even if a page contains 100% valid
HTML and 100% valid CSS, there is no cast-iron guarantee that it
will render as expected (or repeatably) in any real-world browser,
simply because of the possibility of as-yet-undiscovered bugs in
the latter.  As soon as you also factor in invalid HTML and invalid
CSS, the probability of successful rendering drops to near-zero,
and the probability that it will render the same on two consecutive
iterations also falls significantly below unity, which may well
explain what is happening at the moment.

Complain loudly and bitterly to Google.  They claim to be
in favour of web standards, and are amongst those responsible
for the [offensive phrase deleted] known as HTML 5.  In reality,
even the most basic check :

http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://www.google.co.uk/

reveals 37 putative errors and 2 putative warnings, which is
a pretty sad indictment of an organisation that started so
well and on which many of us depend.


I agree, but IE9 shows alsways the google-bar next time.

I have explained the problem to the webmaster, i have furnished him then 
IE9 screenshot, because i am never been able to show the problem with SM.
Most of the time, webmaster don't care about the validator. And if you 
told them, they are unable to correct the errors, perhaps, and because 
they use a tool to contruct their site, and they cannot use notepad to 
modify a generated imbroglio.


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Re: How can i see the buttons "Etape précédente" and "Etape suivante" in a tutorial site

[Ray_Net]

Justin Wood (Callek) wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote:



Ray_Net wrote:


Yes, but ... why did the problem dissappear is SM when closing the
google bar; it did not show anymore ? for ever 


The page contains both invalid HTML and invalid CSS;
it should therefore hardly be a surprise when it
behaves in inexplicable and/or unpredictable ways.



This is ok if you speak about rendering of a page - This page must look
always the same. It's abnormal when we closed the google-bar once, this
google-bar did not show anymore. I have explained the problem of the
invisible buttons to the webmaster - and i cannot sent him a screenshot
of the problem, because de invisible buttons is perfect now, because the
google-bar is not showed anymore.


Perhaps google stored a cookie on your machine?


I agree ... so the best way is removing this stupid cookie ;-)
I have tested in SM removing all cookies from touraineverte, 
translate.googleapis.com, and all googles without success
Just to notice that IE9 rendering always the same evenwhile after 
closing this Goggle-bar.

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Re: How can i see the buttons "Etape précédente" and "Etape suivante" in a tutorial site

[Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd)]

Ray_Net wrote:

> This is ok if you speak about rendering of a page - This page must look 
> always the same. It's abnormal when we closed the google-bar once, this 
> google-bar did not show anymore. I have explained the problem of the 
> invisible buttons to the webmaster - and i cannot sent him a screenshot of 
> the problem, because de invisible buttons is perfect now, because the 
> google-bar is not showed anymore.

I'm sorry, I cannot agree, Ray.  Even if a page contains 100% valid
HTML and 100% valid CSS, there is no cast-iron guarantee that it
will render as expected (or repeatably) in any real-world browser,
simply because of the possibility of as-yet-undiscovered bugs in
the latter.  As soon as you also factor in invalid HTML and invalid
CSS, the probability of successful rendering drops to near-zero,
and the probability that it will render the same on two consecutive
iterations also falls significantly below unity, which may well
explain what is happening at the moment.

Complain loudly and bitterly to Google.  They claim to be
in favour of web standards, and are amongst those responsible
for the [offensive phrase deleted] known as HTML 5.  In reality,
even the most basic check :

http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://www.google.co.uk/

reveals 37 putative errors and 2 putative warnings, which is
a pretty sad indictment of an organisation that started so
well and on which many of us depend.

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Re: How can i see the buttons "Etape précédente" and "Etape suivante" in a tutorial site

[Justin Wood (Callek)]

Ray_Net wrote:

Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote:



Ray_Net wrote:


Yes, but ... why did the problem dissappear is SM when closing the
google bar; it did not show anymore ? for ever 


The page contains both invalid HTML and invalid CSS;
it should therefore hardly be a surprise when it
behaves in inexplicable and/or unpredictable ways.



This is ok if you speak about rendering of a page - This page must look
always the same. It's abnormal when we closed the google-bar once, this
google-bar did not show anymore. I have explained the problem of the
invisible buttons to the webmaster - and i cannot sent him a screenshot
of the problem, because de invisible buttons is perfect now, because the
google-bar is not showed anymore.


Perhaps google stored a cookie on your machine?

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Re: How can i see the buttons "Etape précédente" and "Etape suivante" in a tutorial site

[Ray_Net]

Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote:



Ray_Net wrote:


Yes, but ... why did the problem dissappear is SM when closing the google bar; 
it did not show anymore ? for ever 


The page contains both invalid HTML and invalid CSS;
it should therefore hardly be a surprise when it
behaves in inexplicable and/or unpredictable ways.



This is ok if you speak about rendering of a page - This page must look 
always the same. It's abnormal when we closed the google-bar once, this 
google-bar did not show anymore. I have explained the problem of the 
invisible buttons to the webmaster - and i cannot sent him a screenshot 
of the problem, because de invisible buttons is perfect now, because the 
google-bar is not showed anymore.

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Re: How can i see the buttons "Etape précédente" and "Etape suivante" in a tutorial site

[Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd)]

Ray_Net wrote:

> Yes, but ... why did the problem dissappear is SM when closing the google 
> bar; it did not show anymore ? for ever 

The page contains both invalid HTML and invalid CSS;
it should therefore hardly be a surprise when it
behaves in inexplicable and/or unpredictable ways.

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Re: How can i see the buttons "Etape précédente" and "Etape suivante" in a tutorial site

[Ray_Net]

Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:

Tue, 09 Aug 2011 19:51:35 +0200, /Ray_Net/:


I have been told during an irc session on #informatique or
#programmation (i did not remember) on the epiknet server that the
problem did not exhibit when using the Chrome browser.


Yes, I also noted Chrome appears the only browser not having the same
issue with this page, but it seems caused by the fact the Translate bar
showed in Chrome is its native one (part of the UI) and not part of the
page content, as with all other browsers.


I had tested the same page:
http://google-maps-api-version-3.touraineverte.com/fr/ajouter-un-marqueur-sur-une-carte-avec-api-google-maps-version-3.html

with IE9 - and the problem is exactly the same i encountered with SM.
But i cannot complain against IE9 ... because microsoft doesnot care
about customers :-) So i report this problem at SM support.


As noted, you should probably complain to the page authors, and not to
the browser vendors.



Yes, but ... why did the problem dissappear is SM when closing the 
google bar; it did not show anymore ? for ever 

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Re: How can i see the buttons "Etape précédente" and "Etape suivante" in a tutorial site

[Stanimir Stamenkov]

Tue, 09 Aug 2011 19:51:35 +0200, /Ray_Net/:


I have been told during an irc session on #informatique or
#programmation (i did not remember) on the epiknet server that the
problem did not exhibit when using the Chrome browser.


Yes, I also noted Chrome appears the only browser not having the 
same issue with this page, but it seems caused by the fact the 
Translate bar showed in Chrome is its native one (part of the UI) 
and not part of the page content, as with all other browsers.



I had tested the same page:
http://google-maps-api-version-3.touraineverte.com/fr/ajouter-un-marqueur-sur-une-carte-avec-api-google-maps-version-3.html
with IE9 - and the problem is exactly the same i encountered with SM.
But i cannot complain against IE9 ... because microsoft doesnot care
about customers :-) So i report this problem at SM support.


As noted, you should probably complain to the page authors, and not 
to the browser vendors.


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Re: How can i see the buttons "Etape précédente" and "Etape suivante" in a tutorial site

[Ray_Net]

I have been told during an irc session on #informatique or 
#programmation (i did not remember) on the epiknet server that the 
problem did not exhibit when using the Chrome browser.


You are correct, Closing that google bar (via the [x] at the far right) 
temporarily fixes it anyway. (as said by Justin Wood (Callek))


In addition, what i can say is that with SM i had closed this google 
bar, and the problem dissapeared... but now when i go on this site with 
SM ... the google bar did not show anymore ... strange ...


I had tested the same page:
http://google-maps-api-version-3.touraineverte.com/fr/ajouter-un-marqueur-sur-une-carte-avec-api-google-maps-version-3.html
with IE9 - and the problem is exactly the same i encountered with SM.
But i cannot complain against IE9 ... because microsoft doesnot care 
about customers :-) So i report this problem at SM support.


The screen result was exactly the same with IE9 and SM 2.1
Here is a screen-shot of IE9  http://i.imgur.com/f9ryq.jpg
I cannot show you an SM screenshot because SM did not show the google 
bar anymore.



Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:

Mon, 08 Aug 2011 21:31:11 +0200, /Ray_Net/:


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Alright, Ray. Did you see the other replies in the thread? The
description of the problem in your original post was incomplete, in my
opinion, but then I've already verified I observe the same rendering
with other major browsers like IE, Opera, Safari, and Firefox. The
problem seems caused by bad Web authoring and is easily solved by
closing the Google Translate bar at the top of the page, by clicking the
[X] in the far right of the bar.

Regarding whether there appears to be a SeaMonkey specific problem - did
you try it with any other browser to see if it is just SeaMonkey
rendering it differently? Appears you're on Windows 7, so you're very
likely having Internet Explorer to try with, in addition to SeaMonkey.

Please post back with your results of trying with another browser, and
possibly post a screenshot (the easiest way would be through an image
sharing service like ), if further needed.



Justin Wood (Callek) wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:


I see only the top half-millimeters of those two buttons in the page.
http://google-maps-api-version-3.touraineverte.com/fr/ajouter-un-marqueur-sur-une-carte-avec-api-google-maps-version-3.html


Look at bottom of the left pane.

I have been told that it's ok when using Firefox.
I my understanding SM is based, or use the FF codes ? no ?

Perhaps i need some configuration settings with my SM and this is the
cause of not viewing the two buttons correctly...

This is the code of the needed buttons:

Etape
précédente   Etape suivante


I use SM version 
Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:2.0.1) Gecko/20110608
Firefox/4.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.1


Hrm, I confirm this is a problem. I'm not sure *exactly* what is going
on yet, or its fix.

I tested in SeaMonkey 2.2.

It appears the google "translate this..." bar at the top is pushing the
_entire_ page down a bit, including the viewports scrollbar bottom. So
SeaMonkey is cutting off part of the website. Closing that google bar
(via the [x] at the far right) temporarily fixes it anyway.


THANKS A LOT.


Sending followup to our .dev group/list since it is odd enough and
certainly something is broken. (I have not verified in SeaMonkey 2.3
yet, but that release is far enough along that if it is broken in there,
even if we get the fix written today, the earliest release we'll have a
fix in is 2.4)


GREAT !


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Re: How can i see the buttons "Etape précédente" and "Etape suivante" in a tutorial site

[Stanimir Stamenkov]

Mon, 08 Aug 2011 21:31:11 +0200, /Ray_Net/:


Copied from mozilla.dev.apps.seamonkey to mozilla.support.seamonkey


Alright, Ray.  Did you see the other replies in the thread?  The 
description of the problem in your original post was incomplete, in 
my opinion, but then I've already verified I observe the same 
rendering with other major browsers like IE, Opera, Safari, and 
Firefox.  The problem seems caused by bad Web authoring and is 
easily solved by closing the Google Translate bar at the top of the 
page, by clicking the [X] in the far right of the bar.


Regarding whether there appears to be a SeaMonkey specific problem - 
did you try it with any other browser to see if it is just SeaMonkey 
rendering it differently?  Appears you're on Windows 7, so you're 
very likely having Internet Explorer to try with, in addition to 
SeaMonkey.


Please post back with your results of trying with another browser, 
and possibly post a screenshot (the easiest way would be through an 
image sharing service like ), if further needed.




Justin Wood (Callek) wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:


I see only the top half-millimeters of those two buttons in the page.
http://google-maps-api-version-3.touraineverte.com/fr/ajouter-un-marqueur-sur-une-carte-avec-api-google-maps-version-3.html

Look at bottom of the left pane.

I have been told that it's ok when using Firefox.
I my understanding SM is based, or use the FF codes ? no ?

Perhaps i need some configuration settings with my SM and this is the
cause of not viewing the two buttons correctly...

This is the code of the needed buttons:

Etape
précédente   Etape suivante


I use SM version 
Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:2.0.1) Gecko/20110608
Firefox/4.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.1


Hrm, I confirm this is a problem. I'm not sure *exactly* what is going
on yet, or its fix.

I tested in SeaMonkey 2.2.

It appears the google "translate this..." bar at the top is pushing the
_entire_ page down a bit, including the viewports scrollbar bottom. So
SeaMonkey is cutting off part of the website. Closing that google bar
(via the [x] at the far right) temporarily fixes it anyway.


THANKS A LOT.


Sending followup to our .dev group/list since it is odd enough and
certainly something is broken. (I have not verified in SeaMonkey 2.3
yet, but that release is far enough along that if it is broken in there,
even if we get the fix written today, the earliest release we'll have a
fix in is 2.4)


GREAT !

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Re: How can i see the buttons "Etape précédente" and "Etape suivante" in a tutorial site

[Ray_Net]

Copied from mozilla.dev.apps.seamonkey to mozilla.support.seamonkey

Justin Wood (Callek) wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

I see only the top half-millimeters of those two buttons in the page.
http://google-maps-api-version-3.touraineverte.com/fr/ajouter-un-marqueur-sur-une-carte-avec-api-google-maps-version-3.html



Look at bottom of the left pane.

I have been told that it's ok when using Firefox.
I my understanding SM is based, or use the FF codes ? no ?

Perhaps i need some configuration settings with my SM and this is the
cause of not viewing the two buttons correctly...

This is the code of the needed buttons:

Etape
précédente   Etape suivante


I use SM version 
Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:2.0.1) Gecko/20110608
Firefox/4.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.1



Hrm, I confirm this is a problem. I'm not sure *exactly* what is going
on yet, or its fix.

I tested in SeaMonkey 2.2.

It appears the google "translate this..." bar at the top is pushing the
_entire_ page down a bit, including the viewports scrollbar bottom. So
SeaMonkey is cutting off part of the website. Closing that google bar
(via the [x] at the far right) temporarily fixes it anyway.


THANKS A LOT.




Sending followup to our .dev group/list since it is odd enough and
certainly something is broken. (I have not verified in SeaMonkey 2.3
yet, but that release is far enough along that if it is broken in there,
even if we get the fix written today, the earliest release we'll have a
fix in is 2.4)



GREAT !

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Re: How can i see the buttons "Etape précédente" and "Etape suivante" in a tutorial site

[NoOp]

On 08/07/2011 11:13 AM, NoOp wrote:
> On 08/07/2011 09:35 AM, Ray_Net wrote:
>> I see only the top half-millimeters of those two buttons in the page.
>> http://google-maps-api-version-3.touraineverte.com/fr/ajouter-un-marqueur-sur-une-carte-avec-api-google-maps-version-3.html
>> 
>> Look at bottom of the left pane.
>> 
>> I have been told that it's ok when using Firefox.
>> I my understanding SM is based, or use the FF codes ? no ?
>> 
>> Perhaps i need some configuration settings with my SM and this is the 
>> cause of not viewing the two buttons correctly...
>> 
>> This is the code of the needed buttons:
>> 
>>  Etape 
>> précédente   > id="suivant">Etape suivante
>>  
>> 
>> I use SM version 
>> Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:2.0.1) Gecko/20110608 
>> Firefox/4.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.1
>> 
> 
> The page is identical for me (buttons are fine):
> Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:5.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/5.0
> and
> Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:6.0) Gecko/20110731
> Firefox/6.0 SeaMonkey/2.3
> 

Screenshot of what I see:
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/713/apigooglemapsversion3se.png/

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Re: How can i see the buttons "Etape précédente" and "Etape suivante" in a tutorial site

[Stanimir Stamenkov]

Sun, 07 Aug 2011 20:47:27 +0300, /Stanimir Stamenkov/:

Sun, 07 Aug 2011 18:35:12 +0200, /Ray_Net/:


I see only the top half-millimeters of those two buttons in the page.
http://google-maps-api-version-3.touraineverte.com/fr/ajouter-un-marqueur-sur-une-carte-avec-api-google-maps-version-3.html

Look at bottom of the left pane.

I have been told that it's ok when using Firefox.
I my understanding SM is based, or use the FF codes ? no ?

Perhaps i need some configuration settings with my SM and this is the
cause of not viewing the two buttons correctly...
[...]


It appears to be "profile specific" for me. I can see scroll-bars
and scroll to the bottom of the left pane to see all of the buttons,
with my SeaMonkey profile. For some reason (I'm researching) I
didn't get scroll-bars using Firefox and my default Firefox profile.
Running Firefox in Safe Mode didn't help, but creating a new profile
and trying with it showed the scroll-bars just fine. So it doesn't
appear SeaMonkey specific. Try the page with a fresh new SeaMonkey
profile to see if it makes any difference for you.


Ha, found it for me.  I had JavaScript disabled in my non-working 
Firefox profile.  The page is so badly authored that renders the 
content inaccessible when scripting is turned off.


You may try View -> Use Style -> None, to fall back to default 
styling and reveal all (non-script generated) content, which may or 
may not be sufficient for you.


Do you have JavaScript enabled?

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Re: How can i see the buttons "Etape précédente" and "Etape suivante" in a tutorial site

[NoOp]

On 08/07/2011 09:35 AM, Ray_Net wrote:
> I see only the top half-millimeters of those two buttons in the page.
> http://google-maps-api-version-3.touraineverte.com/fr/ajouter-un-marqueur-sur-une-carte-avec-api-google-maps-version-3.html
> 
> Look at bottom of the left pane.
> 
> I have been told that it's ok when using Firefox.
> I my understanding SM is based, or use the FF codes ? no ?
> 
> Perhaps i need some configuration settings with my SM and this is the 
> cause of not viewing the two buttons correctly...
> 
> This is the code of the needed buttons:
> 
>  Etape 
> précédente    id="suivant">Etape suivante
>  
> 
> I use SM version 
> Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:2.0.1) Gecko/20110608 
> Firefox/4.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.1
> 

The page is identical for me (buttons are fine):
Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:5.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/5.0
and
Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:6.0) Gecko/20110731
Firefox/6.0 SeaMonkey/2.3

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Re: How can i see the buttons "Etape précédente" and "Etape suivante" in a tutorial site

[Stanimir Stamenkov]

Sun, 07 Aug 2011 18:35:12 +0200, /Ray_Net/:


I see only the top half-millimeters of those two buttons in the page.
http://google-maps-api-version-3.touraineverte.com/fr/ajouter-un-marqueur-sur-une-carte-avec-api-google-maps-version-3.html

Look at bottom of the left pane.

I have been told that it's ok when using Firefox.
I my understanding SM is based, or use the FF codes ? no ?

Perhaps i need some configuration settings with my SM and this is the
cause of not viewing the two buttons correctly...

This is the code of the needed buttons:

 Etape
précédente   Etape suivante
 

I use SM version 
Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:2.0.1) Gecko/20110608
Firefox/4.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.1


It appears to be "profile specific" for me.  I can see scroll-bars 
and scroll to the bottom of the left pane to see all of the buttons, 
with my SeaMonkey profile.  For some reason (I'm researching) I 
didn't get scroll-bars using Firefox and my default Firefox profile. 
 Running Firefox in Safe Mode didn't help, but creating a new 
profile and trying with it showed the scroll-bars just fine.  So it 
doesn't appear SeaMonkey specific.  Try the page with a fresh new 
SeaMonkey profile to see if it makes any difference for you.


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Re: How can i see the buttons "Etape précédente" and "Etape suivante" in a tutorial site

[Jay Garcia]

On 07.08.2011 11:35, Ray_Net wrote:

 --- Original Message ---

> I see only the top half-millimeters of those two buttons in the page.
> http://google-maps-api-version-3.touraineverte.com/fr/ajouter-un-marqueur-sur-une-carte-avec-api-google-maps-version-3.html
> 
> 
> Look at bottom of the left pane.
> 
> I have been told that it's ok when using Firefox.
> I my understanding SM is based, or use the FF codes ? no ?
> 
> Perhaps i need some configuration settings with my SM and this is the
> cause of not viewing the two buttons correctly...
> 
> This is the code of the needed buttons:
> 
> Etape
> précédente    id="suivant">Etape suivante
> 
> 
> I use SM version 
> Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:2.0.1) Gecko/20110608
> Firefox/4.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.1
> 

Buttons look ok in FF but not in SM, the second button is displayed in
half with the other half below it.


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Re: How can i see the buttons "Etape précédente" and "Etape suivante" in a tutorial site

[Justin Wood (Callek)]

Ray_Net wrote:

I see only the top half-millimeters of those two buttons in the page.
http://google-maps-api-version-3.touraineverte.com/fr/ajouter-un-marqueur-sur-une-carte-avec-api-google-maps-version-3.html


Look at bottom of the left pane.

I have been told that it's ok when using Firefox.
I my understanding SM is based, or use the FF codes ? no ?

Perhaps i need some configuration settings with my SM and this is the
cause of not viewing the two buttons correctly...

This is the code of the needed buttons:

Etape
précédente   Etape suivante


I use SM version 
Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:2.0.1) Gecko/20110608
Firefox/4.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.1



Hrm, I confirm this is a problem. I'm not sure *exactly* what is going 
on yet, or its fix.


I tested in SeaMonkey 2.2.

It appears the google "translate this..." bar at the top is pushing the 
_entire_ page down a bit, including the viewports scrollbar bottom. So 
SeaMonkey is cutting off part of the website. Closing that google bar 
(via the [x] at the far right) temporarily fixes it anyway.


Sending followup to our .dev group/list since it is odd enough and 
certainly something is broken. (I have not verified in SeaMonkey 2.3 
yet, but that release is far enough along that if it is broken in there, 
even if we get the fix written today, the earliest release we'll have a 
fix in is 2.4)


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Re: How can i see the buttons "Etape précédente" and "Etape suivante" in a tutorial site

[Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd)]

Ray_Net wrote:
> I see only the top half-millimeters of those two buttons in the page.
> 
http://google-maps-api-version-3.touraineverte.com/fr/ajouter-un-marqueur-sur-une-carte-avec-api-google-maps-version-3.html
>
> Look at bottom of the left pane.
>
> I have been told that it's ok when using Firefox.
> I my understanding SM is based, or use the FF codes ? no ?

I would recommend starting by looking at the validity of
your HTML & CSS; HTML validator access to the URL is reported
as forbidden, but the CSS validator has access and reports
27 errors :


http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fgoogle-maps-api-version-3.touraineverte.com%2Ffr%2Fajouter-un-marqueur-sur-une-carte-avec-api-google-maps-version-3.html&profile=css21&usermedium=all&warning=1&vextwarning=&lang=en

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How can i see the buttons "Etape précédente" and "Etape suivante" in a tutorial site

[Ray_Net]

I see only the top half-millimeters of those two buttons in the page.
http://google-maps-api-version-3.touraineverte.com/fr/ajouter-un-marqueur-sur-une-carte-avec-api-google-maps-version-3.html

Look at bottom of the left pane.

I have been told that it's ok when using Firefox.
I my understanding SM is based, or use the FF codes ? no ?

Perhaps i need some configuration settings with my SM and this is the 
cause of not viewing the two buttons correctly...


This is the code of the needed buttons:

Etape 
précédente   id="suivant">Etape suivante



I use SM version 
Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:2.0.1) Gecko/20110608 
Firefox/4.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.1


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Re: [OT - PJ's Website Tutorial] Re: SeaMonkey 2.0.8 Available

[Phillip Jones]

NoOp wrote:

On 09/23/2010 09:49 AM, Jay Garcia wrote:
...

What Phillip needs is a template-structured boiler-plate application
such as I pointed out in my reply of a few mins ago.



What Phillip needs is a new thread as he, and his responders, have
totally borked this thread from it's original "SeaMonkey 2.0.8
Available". You folks ought to at least have the courtesy to tag your
subthreads so that others do not have to wade through seemingly endless
off-topic "advise" to PJ.



Where have you been, was redirected to general and no new comments for 
several days now on either group.


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[OT - PJ's Website Tutorial] Re: SeaMonkey 2.0.8 Available

[NoOp]

On 09/23/2010 09:49 AM, Jay Garcia wrote:
...
> What Phillip needs is a template-structured boiler-plate application
> such as I pointed out in my reply of a few mins ago.
> 

What Phillip needs is a new thread as he, and his responders, have
totally borked this thread from it's original "SeaMonkey 2.0.8
Available". You folks ought to at least have the courtesy to tag your
subthreads so that others do not have to wade through seemingly endless
off-topic "advise" to PJ.

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Re: Tutorial?

[NoOp]

On 01/28/2010 02:44 AM, BJ wrote:
> Am trying out SeaMonkey (2.02, Ubuntu 9.10) and am brand new to this 
> thing.  Defaults are still TB and FF.
> 
> Messing around right now and clicking on everything just to see how it 
> drives.
> 
> But want to get serious eventually, so is there a good tutorial you guys 
> can point me to?
> 
> BJ

You might find these helpful:
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/doc/
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/doc/features
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/doc/2.0/

http://howtointernet.net/tutorials.html
  http://howtointernet.net/email.html
   http://howtointernet.net/walkthrough/email/seamonkey/index.html
http://howtointernet.net/browsers.html
 http://howtointernet.net/walkthrough/browsers/seamonkey/20a1/index.html

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Re: Tutorial?

[Bill Davidsen]

BJ wrote:
Am trying out SeaMonkey (2.02, Ubuntu 9.10) and am brand new to this 
thing.  Defaults are still TB and FF.


Messing around right now and clicking on everything just to see how it 
drives.


But want to get serious eventually, so is there a good tutorial you guys 
can point me to?


Wish I could, there was one I had bookmarked for SM 1.1.xx series, but honestly 
1.1.xx and 2.x.x are compatible mostly at the acronym level, consider the suite 
as a wild animal, and poke it here and there to see what it does. You are 
probably learning faster than reading a tutorial, browsing through the menus and 
about:config will give you things to try.


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the machinations of the wicked."  - from Slashdot
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Re: Tutorial?

[BeeNeR]

On or about 1/28/2010 5:44 AM, BJ typed the following:
> Am trying out SeaMonkey (2.02, Ubuntu 9.10) and am brand new to this
> thing.  Defaults are still TB and FF.
> 
> Messing around right now and clicking on everything just to see how it
> drives.
> 
> But want to get serious eventually, so is there a good tutorial you guys
> can point me to?
> 
> BJ

A rework of the 'Help' files would be of help.

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Tutorial?

[BJ]

Am trying out SeaMonkey (2.02, Ubuntu 9.10) and am brand new to this 
thing.  Defaults are still TB and FF.


Messing around right now and clicking on everything just to see how it 
drives.


But want to get serious eventually, so is there a good tutorial you guys 
can point me to?


BJ
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