Re: What's the highest memory usage you have seen from your seamonkey.exe in Windows?
Ant wrote: In any case I recommend NoScript 5.19 and latest uBlock classic (legacy). I will have to check out NoScript. Why no uBlock Origin instead of classic? I deleted Adblock Plus and added uBlock Origin. I think things are better, but I cannot put numbers on it. White listing seems easier. Ray ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: What's the highest memory usage you have seen from your seamonkey.exe in Windows?
On 7/25/2020 3:01 PM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote: Ant wrote: On 7/25/2020 4:49 AM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote: Ant wrote: ... There are reports of 20 GB or more on startup and crashes when using streetmap and specific websites. I can not reproduce this neither on Linux nor Windows. Memory goes up but also goes down moderately. In some cases I suspect problemes with Linux distribution builds. IanN thinks it might be imap mail. Wow, 20 GB! Do you have the rest of the specific web sites for us to reproduce? No https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=169 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1616551 Google Maps street view which was mentioned works fine for me in Windows and Linux OpenSuse 15.2 and 2.53.3. I remember in SeaMonkey v2.49.5 and earlier, Google Maps hogged resources like crazy. I didn't see that any more in v2.53.x. Does not mean that SeaMonkey is error free or that there is no porblem. We are constantly fixing bugs and backport things now. In any case I recommend NoScript 5.19 and latest uBlock classic (legacy). I will have to check out NoScript. Why no uBlock Origin instead of classic? I use both NoScript Classic 5.1.9 and uBlock (legacy which I consider classic) 1.16.4.24 I will have to try NoScript again. The last time, I tried it was too much hassle to use. :( Well, there are two uBlock Origin (https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock-for-firefox-legacy) and non-Origin (https://ublock.org). -- Life's so loco! ..!.. *isms, sins, hates, (d)evil, illnesses (e.g., COVID-19/2019-nCoV/SARS-CoV-2), deaths (RIP), interruptions, stresses, heat waves, fires, out(r)ages, dramas, unlucky #4, 2020, greeds, bugs (e.g., crashes & female mosquitoes), etc. Note: A fixed width font (Courier, Monospace, etc.) is required to see this signature correctly. /\___/\ http://aqfl.net & http://antfarm.ma.cx / / /\ /\ \ http://antfarm.home.dhs.org | |o o| | Axe ANT from its address if shown & e-mailing privately. \ _ / Please kindly use :( Ant nickname & URL/link if crediting. ( ) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: What's the highest memory usage you have seen from your seamonkey.exe in Windows?
Ant wrote: On 7/25/2020 4:49 AM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote: Ant wrote: ... There are reports of 20 GB or more on startup and crashes when using streetmap and specific websites. I can not reproduce this neither on Linux nor Windows. Memory goes up but also goes down moderately. In some cases I suspect problemes with Linux distribution builds. IanN thinks it might be imap mail. Wow, 20 GB! Do you have the rest of the specific web sites for us to reproduce? No https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=169 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1616551 Google Maps street view which was mentioned works fine for me in Windows and Linux OpenSuse 15.2 and 2.53.3. Does not mean that SeaMonkey is error free or that there is no porblem. We are constantly fixing bugs and backport things now. In any case I recommend NoScript 5.19 and latest uBlock classic (legacy). I will have to check out NoScript. Why no uBlock Origin instead of classic? I use both NoScript Classic 5.1.9 and uBlock (legacy which I consider classic) 1.16.4.24 FRG ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: What's the highest memory usage you have seen from your seamonkey.exe in Windows?
On 7/25/2020 4:49 AM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote: Ant wrote: On 7/24/2020 3:07 AM, Ant wrote: Wow, yesterday I saw v2.53.3 process go over 4 GB (about 83% used on my decade old, updated 64-bit W7 HPE SP1 PC's 6 GB of RAM)! :O https://wiki.mozilla.org/SeaMonkey/StatusMeetings/2020-07-26 says "Some users report heavy memory usage compared to 2.49.5 but no specific problem or common cause has been found yet." I see this happen often from YouTube, Facebook, LinkedIn, Twitter, Reddit (new design is the worst compared to its old.reddit.com), etc. from my usages. I can reproduce it easily. 4GB is not excessive when you look at the sh*t websites call source code and which needs to be decoded. For other cases huge javascript files rom 10 sites or more trackers etc... It can happen. With one or two videos it also goes up to 1 to 2 GB fast. This is not 1990 any longer and 2.53.3 supports a lot more features compared to 2.49.x. There are reports of 20 GB or more on startup and crashes when using streetmap and specific websites. I can not reproduce this neither on Linux nor Windows. Memory goes up but also goes down moderately. In some cases I suspect problemes with Linux distribution builds. IanN thinks it might be imap mail. Wow, 20 GB! Do you have the rest of the specific web sites for us to reproduce? I did have a Firefox v77(?) crash while downloading a 4 GB file from mega.nz. My PC crashed to halt and had to be resetted to get out of it. I couldn't reproduce it again but did notice its memory kept going higher and higher. I contacted its support, and they told me to use their extension (no thanks). :( Does not mean that SeaMonkey is error free or that there is no porblem. We are constantly fixing bugs and backport things now. In any case I recommend NoScript 5.19 and latest uBlock classic (legacy). I will have to check out NoScript. Why no uBlock Origin instead of classic? -- Life's so loco! ..!.. *isms, sins, hates, (d)evil, illnesses (e.g., COVID-19/2019-nCoV/SARS-CoV-2), deaths (RIP), interruptions, stresses, heat waves, fires, out(r)ages, dramas, unlucky #4, 2020, greeds, bugs (e.g., crashes & female mosquitoes), etc. Note: A fixed width font (Courier, Monospace, etc.) is required to see this signature correctly. /\___/\ http://aqfl.net & http://antfarm.ma.cx / / /\ /\ \ http://antfarm.home.dhs.org | |o o| | Axe ANT from its address if shown & e-mailing privately. \ _ / Please kindly use :( Ant nickname & URL/link if crediting. ( ) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: What's the highest memory usage you have seen from your seamonkey.exe in Windows?
Ant wrote: On 7/24/2020 3:07 AM, Ant wrote: Wow, yesterday I saw v2.53.3 process go over 4 GB (about 83% used on my decade old, updated 64-bit W7 HPE SP1 PC's 6 GB of RAM)! :O https://wiki.mozilla.org/SeaMonkey/StatusMeetings/2020-07-26 says "Some users report heavy memory usage compared to 2.49.5 but no specific problem or common cause has been found yet." I see this happen often from YouTube, Facebook, LinkedIn, Twitter, Reddit (new design is the worst compared to its old.reddit.com), etc. from my usages. I can reproduce it easily. 4GB is not excessive when you look at the sh*t websites call source code and which needs to be decoded. For other cases huge javascript files rom 10 sites or more trackers etc... It can happen. With one or two videos it also goes up to 1 to 2 GB fast. This is not 1990 any longer and 2.53.3 supports a lot more features compared to 2.49.x. There are reports of 20 GB or more on startup and crashes when using streetmap and specific websites. I can not reproduce this neither on Linux nor Windows. Memory goes up but also goes down moderately. In some cases I suspect problemes with Linux distribution builds. IanN thinks it might be imap mail. Does not mean that SeaMonkey is error free or that there is no porblem. We are constantly fixing bugs and backport things now. In any case I recommend NoScript 5.19 and latest uBlock classic (legacy). FRG ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: What's the highest memory usage you have seen from your seamonkey.exe in Windows?
On 7/24/2020 3:07 AM, Ant wrote: Wow, yesterday I saw v2.53.3 process go over 4 GB (about 83% used on my decade old, updated 64-bit W7 HPE SP1 PC's 6 GB of RAM)! :O https://wiki.mozilla.org/SeaMonkey/StatusMeetings/2020-07-26 says "Some users report heavy memory usage compared to 2.49.5 but no specific problem or common cause has been found yet." I see this happen often from YouTube, Facebook, LinkedIn, Twitter, Reddit (new design is the worst compared to its old.reddit.com), etc. from my usages. I can reproduce it easily. -- Life's so loco! ..!.. *isms, sins, hates, (d)evil, illnesses (e.g., COVID-19/2019-nCoV/SARS-CoV-2), deaths (RIP), interruptions, stresses, heat waves, fires, out(r)ages, dramas, unlucky #4, 2020, greeds, bugs (e.g., crashes & female mosquitoes), etc. Note: A fixed width font (Courier, Monospace, etc.) is required to see this signature correctly. /\___/\ http://aqfl.net & http://antfarm.ma.cx / / /\ /\ \ http://antfarm.home.dhs.org | |o o| | Axe ANT from its address if shown & e-mailing privately. \ _ / Please kindly use :( Ant nickname & URL/link if crediting. ( ) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: What's the highest memory usage you have seen from your seamonkey.exe in Windows?
10 or so with some google video stuff. But putting fix after fix in has made 2.53.3 and 2.53.4 well behaved here. Goes down too. 2.53.4 seems to be even smoother. If you enable service workers in about:config you can do this test suite which should drive memory up quite good. Grashes 2.49.5 because it is unable to cope with it. https://bakkot.github.io/test262-web-runner/ FRG Ant wrote: Wow, yesterday I saw v2.53.3 process go over 4 GB (about 83% used on my decade old, updated 64-bit W7 HPE SP1 PC's 6 GB of RAM)! :O ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: What's the highest memory usage you have seen from your seamonkey.exe in Windows?
Wow, yesterday I saw v2.53.3 process go over 4 GB (about 83% used on my decade old, updated 64-bit W7 HPE SP1 PC's 6 GB of RAM)! :O -- Life's so loco! ..!.. *isms, sins, hates, (d)evil, illnesses (e.g., COVID-19/2019-nCoV/SARS-CoV-2), deaths (RIP), interruptions, stresses, heat waves, fires, out(r)ages, dramas, unlucky #4, 2020, greeds, bugs (e.g., crashes & female mosquitoes), etc. Note: A fixed width font (Courier, Monospace, etc.) is required to see this signature correctly. /\___/\ http://aqfl.net & http://antfarm.ma.cx / / /\ /\ \ http://antfarm.home.dhs.org | |o o| | Axe ANT from its address if shown & e-mailing privately. \ _ / Please kindly use :( Ant nickname & URL/link if crediting. ( ) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: What's the highest memory usage you have seen from your seamonkey.exe in Windows?
On 6/11/2020 6:14 AM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote: Ant wrote: On 6/10/2020 4:07 PM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote: Ant wrote: On 6/10/2020 1:17 AM, Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote: ... Ever tried about:memory ? I then clicked "Measure" under "Show memory reports". My Seamonkey version - on this machine - is a bit older than yours but that should not make any difference. Wow, I saw a lot of ghost windows with previous visits from a few hours ago. I tried its "Minimize memory usage" button and it went from 1 GB to 644.26 MB. All ghost windows were removed. Good. I now and then check for them but ghosts became quite rare here in recent SeaMonkey builds. Are you still using Adblock Plus by chance? Had nothing but trouble with slowdowns and memory bloat with the latest compatible 2.91 versions. Nope. uBlock Origin. I need an ad blocker. :P Yes. Also use it and NoScript. Interesting. My 64-bit W7 says about 1.3 GB of RAM is in used (peaked at almost 3 GB) after minimizing memory use. Memory reports show measurements with stuck ghosts like: "Main Process Explicit Allocations 820.52 MB (100.0%) -- explicit ├──275.26 MB (33.55%) -- window-objects │ ├──203.34 MB (24.78%) -- top(none) │ │ ├──132.55 MB (16.15%) -- ghost │ │ │ ├───63.07 MB (07.69%) -- window(https://www.wunderground.com/weather/...) │ │ │ │ ├──56.52 MB (06.89%) -- js-compartment(https://www.wunderground.com/weather/...) │ │ │ │ │ ├──54.79 MB (06.68%) -- classes │ │ │ │ │ │ ├──36.26 MB (04.42%) -- class(Object)/objects │ │ │ │ │ │ │ ├──28.93 MB (03.53%) ── gc-heap │ │ │ │ │ │ │ └───7.33 MB (00.89%) ++ malloc-heap │ │ │ │ │ │ ├──10.15 MB (01.24%) ++ (12 tiny) │ │ │ │ │ │ └───8.38 MB (01.02%) ++ class(Array)/objects │ │ │ │ │ └───1.73 MB (00.21%) ++ (5 tiny) │ │ │ │ └───6.55 MB (00.80%) ++ (3 tiny) │ │ │ ├───49.29 MB (06.01%) -- window(https://www.wunderground.com/weather/...) │ │ │ │ ├──37.37 MB (04.55%) -- js-compartment(https://www.wunderground.com/weather/...) │ │ │ │ │ ├──33.90 MB (04.13%) -- classes │ │ │ │ │ │ ├──15.81 MB (01.93%) ++ (13 tiny) │ │ │ │ │ │ ├───9.41 MB (01.15%) ++ class(Object)/objects │ │ │ │ │ │ └───8.68 MB (01.06%) -- class(ArrayBuffer)/objects │ │ │ │ │ │ ├──8.63 MB (01.05%) ── malloc-heap/elements/normal [2] │ │ │ │ │ │ └──0.05 MB (00.01%) ── gc-heap [2] │ │ │ │ │ └───3.46 MB (00.42%) ++ (6 tiny) │ │ │ │ └──11.92 MB (01.45%) ++ (3 tiny) │ │ │ └───20.19 MB (02.46%) -- window(https://www.wunderground.com/weather/...) │ │ │ ├──14.24 MB (01.74%) -- js-compartment(https://www.wunderground.com/weather/...) │ │ │ │ ├──12.54 MB (01.53%) ++ classes │ │ │ │ └───1.70 MB (00.21%) ++ (5 tiny) │ │ │ └───5.96 MB (00.73%) ++ (3 tiny) │ │ └───70.79 MB (08.63%) -- detached │ │ ├──29.25 MB (03.57%) -- window(chrome://messenger/content/messengercompose/messengercompose.xul) │ │ │ ├──17.56 MB (02.14%) -- js-compartment([System Principal], about:blank) │ │ │ │ ├───9.93 MB (01.21%) ++ classes │ │ │ │ └───7.63 MB (00.93%) ++ (6 tiny) │ │ │ ├──10.41 MB (01.27%) ++ dom │ │ │ └───1.28 MB (00.16%) ++ (2 tiny) │ │ ├──27.43 MB (03.34%) -- window(chrome://navigator/content/navigator.xul) │ │ │ ├──16.08 MB (01.96%) -- js-compartment([System Principal], about:blank) │ │ │ │ ├───9.04 MB (01.10%) ++ classes │ │ │ │ └───7.03 MB (00.86%) ++ (6 tiny) │ │ │ ├───9.97 MB (01.21%) ++ dom │ │ │ └───1.38 MB (00.17%) ++ (2 tiny) │ │ ├───8.87 MB (01.08%) ++ window(chrome://messenger/content/messenger.xul) │ │ └───5.24 MB (00.64%) ++ (20 tiny) │ ├───31.65 MB (03.86%) -- top(about:memory, id=2042) │ │ ├──30.53 MB (03.72%) -- active/window(about:memory) │ │ │ ├──29.14 MB (03.55%) -- dom │ │ │ │ ├──29.11 MB (03.55%) ── orphan-nodes │ │ │ │ └───0.03 MB (00.00%) ++ (5 tiny) │ │ │ └───1.39 MB (00.17%) ++ (4 tiny) │ │ └───1.12 MB (00.14%) ++ js-zone(0x24cd1000) │ ├───21.61 MB (02.63%) -- top(data:application/vnd.mozilla.xul+xml;charset=utf-8,, id=6) │ │ ├──11.53 MB (01.41%) -- js-zone(0x14cb1000) │ │ │ ├──10.51 MB (01.28%) -- strings │ │ │ │ ├───8.56 MB (01.04%) ++ string() │ │ │ │ └───1.95 MB (00.24%) ++ (45 tiny) │ │ │ └───1.02 MB (00.12%) ++ (12 tiny) │ │ └──10.08 MB (01.23%) -- active │ │ ├───9.92 MB (01.21%) -- window(chrome://ublock0/content/background.html#1.16.4.20) │ │ │ ├──9.82 MB (01.20%) -- js-compartment([System Principal], about:blank) │ │ │ │ ├──9.71 MB (01.18%) ++ classes │ │ │ │ └──0.11 MB (00.01%) ++ (5 tiny) │ │ │ └──0.09 MB (00.01%) ++ (4 tiny) │ │ └───0.17 MB (00.02%) ++ window(data:application/vnd.mozilla.xul+xml;charset=utf-8,) │ └───18.66 MB (02.27%) ++ (13 tiny) ├──198.87 MB (24.24%) -- js-non-window │ ├──154.47 MB (18.83%) -- zones │ │ ├───51.23 MB
Re: What's the highest memory usage you have seen from your seamonkey.exe in Windows?
On 6/12/2020 2:04 PM, Paul in Houston, TX wrote: ... What?? Can't your brain multi-task, Paul?? Sorry, Paul, I forgot the ;-P after my last! ;-( That's ok. I had assumed so and thought it was quite funny! :) I have no brain. :( -- Life is so crazy! ..!.. *isms, sins, devil, illness (e.g., COVID-19/2019-nCoV/SARS-CoV-2), deaths, heat waves, arsonists, out(r)ages, unlucky #4, 2020, etc. :( Note: A fixed width font (Courier, Monospace, etc.) is required to see this signature correctly. /\___/\ http://aqfl.net & http://antfarm.ma.cx / / /\ /\ \ http://antfarm.home.dhs.org | |o o| | Axe ANT from its address if shown & e-mailing privately. \ _ / Please kindly use Ant nickname & URL/link if crediting. ( ) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: What's the highest memory usage you have seen from your seamonkey.exe in Windows?
Daniel wrote: Daniel wrote on 11/06/2020 7:20 PM: Paul in Houston, TX wrote on 11/06/2020 12:11 PM: Ant wrote: On 6/10/2020 2:20 PM, Paul in Houston, TX wrote: Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote: Paul in Houston, TX wrote: Ant wrote: Mine went over 3 GB of RAM for its working set, 4.5 GB for its peak working set, and almost 30K of page faults. It was mostly caused by many tabs of YouTube.com in my decade old, updated 64-bit W7 HPE SP1 PC (6 GB of RAM). :( Thank you for reading and hopefully answering. :) I have never seen mine above 650k. Don't you mean 650 MB? You are correct. I meant MB... accidentally left off 3 zeros. I currently have 5 separate instances of SM open to test and am using 485,904K. I don't have a win7 disk cache. Ram cache only. https://www.foxnews.com/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SB-qEYVdvXA (cute kitties) https://nmap.org/ https://avcams.faa.gov/sitelist.php https://radar.weather.gov/Conus/centgrtlakes_loop.php How about opening more YouTube's videos and other bloated web sites (LinkedIn, Facebook, Twitter, etc.)? ;) Why would I want to watch more than one youtube vid at a time? :) I don't belong to Link, Face, or Twit. What?? Can't your brain multi-task, Paul?? Sorry, Paul, I forgot the ;-P after my last! ;-( That's ok. I had assumed so and thought it was quite funny! :) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: What's the highest memory usage you have seen from your seamonkey.exe in Windows?
On 6/12/2020 10:00 AM, Gerry Hickman wrote: Ant wrote: On 6/11/2020 9:12 AM, Gerry Hickman wrote: Ant wrote: Well, youtube is supposed to be for watching videos, so I can't imagine why you'd need more than one tab open I watch many daily. ;) Yes, but if you open multiple videos in multiple tabs, what is supposed to happen, do they all start playing at once? Nope. I disabled their autoplays. I play when I am ready. In that case, you could just open a tab when ready. I have a subscription and like to load them in the background as queue. -- Life is so crazy! ..!.. *isms, sins, devil, illness (e.g., COVID-19/2019-nCoV/SARS-CoV-2), deaths, heat waves, arsonists, out(r)ages, unlucky #4, 2020, etc. :( Note: A fixed width font (Courier, Monospace, etc.) is required to see this signature correctly. /\___/\ http://aqfl.net & http://antfarm.ma.cx / / /\ /\ \ http://antfarm.home.dhs.org | |o o| | Axe ANT from its address if shown & e-mailing privately. \ _ / Please kindly use Ant nickname & URL/link if crediting. ( ) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: What's the highest memory usage you have seen from your seamonkey.exe in Windows?
Ant wrote: On 6/11/2020 9:12 AM, Gerry Hickman wrote: Ant wrote: Well, youtube is supposed to be for watching videos, so I can't imagine why you'd need more than one tab open I watch many daily. ;) Yes, but if you open multiple videos in multiple tabs, what is supposed to happen, do they all start playing at once? Nope. I disabled their autoplays. I play when I am ready. In that case, you could just open a tab when ready. -- Gerry Hickman (London UK) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: What's the highest memory usage you have seen from your seamonkey.exe in Windows?
Daniel wrote on 11/06/2020 7:20 PM: Paul in Houston, TX wrote on 11/06/2020 12:11 PM: Ant wrote: On 6/10/2020 2:20 PM, Paul in Houston, TX wrote: Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote: Paul in Houston, TX wrote: Ant wrote: Mine went over 3 GB of RAM for its working set, 4.5 GB for its peak working set, and almost 30K of page faults. It was mostly caused by many tabs of YouTube.com in my decade old, updated 64-bit W7 HPE SP1 PC (6 GB of RAM). :( Thank you for reading and hopefully answering. :) I have never seen mine above 650k. Don't you mean 650 MB? You are correct. I meant MB... accidentally left off 3 zeros. I currently have 5 separate instances of SM open to test and am using 485,904K. I don't have a win7 disk cache. Ram cache only. https://www.foxnews.com/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SB-qEYVdvXA (cute kitties) https://nmap.org/ https://avcams.faa.gov/sitelist.php https://radar.weather.gov/Conus/centgrtlakes_loop.php How about opening more YouTube's videos and other bloated web sites (LinkedIn, Facebook, Twitter, etc.)? ;) Why would I want to watch more than one youtube vid at a time? :) I don't belong to Link, Face, or Twit. What?? Can't your brain multi-task, Paul?? Sorry, Paul, I forgot the ;-P after my last! ;-( -- Daniel Win7 User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49.5 Build identifier: 20190609032134 Linux User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49.1 Build identifier: 20171015235623 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: What's the highest memory usage you have seen from your seamonkey.exe in Windows?
On 6/11/2020 9:12 AM, Gerry Hickman wrote: Ant wrote: Well, youtube is supposed to be for watching videos, so I can't imagine why you'd need more than one tab open I watch many daily. ;) Yes, but if you open multiple videos in multiple tabs, what is supposed to happen, do they all start playing at once? Nope. I disabled their autoplays. I play when I am ready. -- Life is so crazy! ..!.. *isms, sins, devil, illness (e.g., COVID-19/2019-nCoV/SARS-CoV-2), etc. :( Note: A fixed width font (Courier, Monospace, etc.) is required to see this signature correctly. /\___/\ http://aqfl.net & http://antfarm.ma.cx / / /\ /\ \ http://antfarm.home.dhs.org | |o o| | Axe ANT from its address if shown & e-mailing privately. \ _ / Please kindly use Ant nickname & URL/link if crediting. ( ) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: What's the highest memory usage you have seen from your seamonkey.exe in Windows?
Ant wrote: Well, youtube is supposed to be for watching videos, so I can't imagine why you'd need more than one tab open I watch many daily. ;) Yes, but if you open multiple videos in multiple tabs, what is supposed to happen, do they all start playing at once? -- Gerry Hickman (London UK) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: What's the highest memory usage you have seen from your seamonkey.exe in Windows?
Ant wrote: On 6/10/2020 4:07 PM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote: Ant wrote: On 6/10/2020 1:17 AM, Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote: ... Ever tried about:memory ? I then clicked "Measure" under "Show memory reports". My Seamonkey version - on this machine - is a bit older than yours but that should not make any difference. Wow, I saw a lot of ghost windows with previous visits from a few hours ago. I tried its "Minimize memory usage" button and it went from 1 GB to 644.26 MB. All ghost windows were removed. Good. I now and then check for them but ghosts became quite rare here in recent SeaMonkey builds. Are you still using Adblock Plus by chance? Had nothing but trouble with slowdowns and memory bloat with the latest compatible 2.91 versions. Nope. uBlock Origin. I need an ad blocker. :P Yes. Also use it and NoScript. FRG ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: What's the highest memory usage you have seen from your seamonkey.exe in Windows?
Paul in Houston, TX wrote on 11/06/2020 12:11 PM: Ant wrote: On 6/10/2020 2:20 PM, Paul in Houston, TX wrote: Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote: Paul in Houston, TX wrote: Ant wrote: Mine went over 3 GB of RAM for its working set, 4.5 GB for its peak working set, and almost 30K of page faults. It was mostly caused by many tabs of YouTube.com in my decade old, updated 64-bit W7 HPE SP1 PC (6 GB of RAM). :( Thank you for reading and hopefully answering. :) I have never seen mine above 650k. Don't you mean 650 MB? You are correct. I meant MB... accidentally left off 3 zeros. I currently have 5 separate instances of SM open to test and am using 485,904K. I don't have a win7 disk cache. Ram cache only. https://www.foxnews.com/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SB-qEYVdvXA (cute kitties) https://nmap.org/ https://avcams.faa.gov/sitelist.php https://radar.weather.gov/Conus/centgrtlakes_loop.php How about opening more YouTube's videos and other bloated web sites (LinkedIn, Facebook, Twitter, etc.)? ;) Why would I want to watch more than one youtube vid at a time? :) I don't belong to Link, Face, or Twit. What?? Can't your brain multi-task, Paul?? -- Daniel Win7 User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49.5 Build identifier: 20190609032134 Linux User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49.1 Build identifier: 20171015235623 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
OT: Memory Management ..... (was: Re: What's the highest memory usage you have seen from your seamonkey.exe in Windows?)
Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote on 11/06/2020 9:07 AM: Ant wrote: On 6/10/2020 1:17 AM, Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote: ... Ever tried about:memory ? I then clicked "Measure" under "Show memory reports". My Seamonkey version - on this machine - is a bit older than yours but that should not make any difference. Wow, I saw a lot of ghost windows with previous visits from a few hours ago. I tried its "Minimize memory usage" button and it went from 1 GB to 644.26 MB. All ghost windows were removed. Good. I now and then check for them but ghosts became quite rare here in recent SeaMonkey builds. Are you still using Adblock Plus by chance? Had nothing but trouble with slowdowns and memory bloat with the latest compatible 2.91 versions. FRG Frank-Rainer, what are these "ghosts"?? Web-sites/Tabs/Windows that I've been to in this current session that haven't quite closed down properly/fully?? Programs/Processes 'phoning *Home* ?? What?? -- Daniel Win7 User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49.5 Build identifier: 20190609032134 Linux User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49.1 Build identifier: 20171015235623 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: What's the highest memory usage you have seen from your seamonkey.exe in Windows?
On 6/10/2020 4:07 PM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote: Ant wrote: On 6/10/2020 1:17 AM, Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote: ... Ever tried about:memory ? I then clicked "Measure" under "Show memory reports". My Seamonkey version - on this machine - is a bit older than yours but that should not make any difference. Wow, I saw a lot of ghost windows with previous visits from a few hours ago. I tried its "Minimize memory usage" button and it went from 1 GB to 644.26 MB. All ghost windows were removed. Good. I now and then check for them but ghosts became quite rare here in recent SeaMonkey builds. Are you still using Adblock Plus by chance? Had nothing but trouble with slowdowns and memory bloat with the latest compatible 2.91 versions. Nope. uBlock Origin. I need an ad blocker. :P -- This ant finally went out far after 2 months and 23 days / 12 weeks / 84 days / 0.23 years. :O ..!.. *isms, sins, devil, illness (e.g., COVID-19/2019-nCoV/SARS-CoV-2), etc. Note: A fixed width font (Courier, Monospace, etc.) is required to see this signature correctly. /\___/\ http://aqfl.net & http://antfarm.ma.cx / / /\ /\ \ http://antfarm.home.dhs.org | |o o| | Axe ANT from its address if shown & e-mailing privately. \ _ / Please kindly use Ant nickname & URL/link if crediting. ( ) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: What's the highest memory usage you have seen from your seamonkey.exe in Windows?
On 6/10/2020 7:11 PM, Paul in Houston, TX wrote: ... Why would I want to watch more than one youtube vid at a time? :) I don't belong to Link, Face, or Twit. So, you can watch them later. :P -- This ant finally went out far after 2 months and 23 days / 12 weeks / 84 days / 0.23 years. :O ..!.. *isms, sins, devil, illness (e.g., COVID-19/2019-nCoV/SARS-CoV-2), etc. Note: A fixed width font (Courier, Monospace, etc.) is required to see this signature correctly. /\___/\ http://aqfl.net & http://antfarm.ma.cx / / /\ /\ \ http://antfarm.home.dhs.org | |o o| | Axe ANT from its address if shown & e-mailing privately. \ _ / Please kindly use Ant nickname & URL/link if crediting. ( ) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: What's the highest memory usage you have seen from your seamonkey.exe in Windows?
Ant wrote: On 6/10/2020 2:20 PM, Paul in Houston, TX wrote: Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote: Paul in Houston, TX wrote: Ant wrote: Mine went over 3 GB of RAM for its working set, 4.5 GB for its peak working set, and almost 30K of page faults. It was mostly caused by many tabs of YouTube.com in my decade old, updated 64-bit W7 HPE SP1 PC (6 GB of RAM). :( Thank you for reading and hopefully answering. :) I have never seen mine above 650k. Don't you mean 650 MB? You are correct. I meant MB... accidentally left off 3 zeros. I currently have 5 separate instances of SM open to test and am using 485,904K. I don't have a win7 disk cache. Ram cache only. https://www.foxnews.com/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SB-qEYVdvXA (cute kitties) https://nmap.org/ https://avcams.faa.gov/sitelist.php https://radar.weather.gov/Conus/centgrtlakes_loop.php How about opening more YouTube's videos and other bloated web sites (LinkedIn, Facebook, Twitter, etc.)? ;) Why would I want to watch more than one youtube vid at a time? :) I don't belong to Link, Face, or Twit. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: What's the highest memory usage you have seen from your seamonkey.exe in Windows?
Ant wrote: On 6/10/2020 1:17 AM, Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote: ... Ever tried about:memory ? I then clicked "Measure" under "Show memory reports". My Seamonkey version - on this machine - is a bit older than yours but that should not make any difference. Wow, I saw a lot of ghost windows with previous visits from a few hours ago. I tried its "Minimize memory usage" button and it went from 1 GB to 644.26 MB. All ghost windows were removed. Good. I now and then check for them but ghosts became quite rare here in recent SeaMonkey builds. Are you still using Adblock Plus by chance? Had nothing but trouble with slowdowns and memory bloat with the latest compatible 2.91 versions. FRG ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: What's the highest memory usage you have seen from your seamonkey.exe in Windows?
On 6/10/2020 2:20 PM, Paul in Houston, TX wrote: Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote: Paul in Houston, TX wrote: Ant wrote: Mine went over 3 GB of RAM for its working set, 4.5 GB for its peak working set, and almost 30K of page faults. It was mostly caused by many tabs of YouTube.com in my decade old, updated 64-bit W7 HPE SP1 PC (6 GB of RAM). :( Thank you for reading and hopefully answering. :) I have never seen mine above 650k. Don't you mean 650 MB? You are correct. I meant MB... accidentally left off 3 zeros. I currently have 5 separate instances of SM open to test and am using 485,904K. I don't have a win7 disk cache. Ram cache only. https://www.foxnews.com/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SB-qEYVdvXA (cute kitties) https://nmap.org/ https://avcams.faa.gov/sitelist.php https://radar.weather.gov/Conus/centgrtlakes_loop.php How about opening more YouTube's videos and other bloated web sites (LinkedIn, Facebook, Twitter, etc.)? ;) -- This ant finally went out far after 2 months and 23 days / 12 weeks / 84 days / 0.23 years. :O ..!.. *isms, sins, devil, illness (e.g., COVID-19/2019-nCoV/SARS-CoV-2), etc. Note: A fixed width font (Courier, Monospace, etc.) is required to see this signature correctly. /\___/\ http://aqfl.net & http://antfarm.ma.cx / / /\ /\ \ http://antfarm.home.dhs.org | |o o| | Axe ANT from its address if shown & e-mailing privately. \ _ / Please kindly use Ant nickname & URL/link if crediting. ( ) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: What's the highest memory usage you have seen from your seamonkey.exe in Windows?
On 6/10/2020 1:17 AM, Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote: ... Ever tried about:memory ? I then clicked "Measure" under "Show memory reports". My Seamonkey version - on this machine - is a bit older than yours but that should not make any difference. Wow, I saw a lot of ghost windows with previous visits from a few hours ago. I tried its "Minimize memory usage" button and it went from 1 GB to 644.26 MB. All ghost windows were removed. Good. -- This ant finally went out far after 2 months and 23 days / 12 weeks / 84 days / 0.23 years. :O ..!.. *isms, sins, devil, illness (e.g., COVID-19/2019-nCoV/SARS-CoV-2), etc. Note: A fixed width font (Courier, Monospace, etc.) is required to see this signature correctly. /\___/\ http://aqfl.net & http://antfarm.ma.cx / / /\ /\ \ http://antfarm.home.dhs.org | |o o| | Axe ANT from its address if shown & e-mailing privately. \ _ / Please kindly use Ant nickname & URL/link if crediting. ( ) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: What's the highest memory usage you have seen from your seamonkey.exe in Windows?
On 6/9/2020 3:52 PM, Gerry Hickman wrote: Ant wrote: Mine went over 3 GB of RAM for its working set, 4.5 GB for its peak working set, and almost 30K of page faults. It was mostly caused by many tabs of YouTube.com in my decade old, updated 64-bit W7 HPE SP1 PC (6 GB of RAM). :( Well, youtube is supposed to be for watching videos, so I can't imagine why you'd need more than one tab open, but yes, everyone knows that if you visit huge data sucking sites that run thousands of "affiliate" scripts, then bad things will happen. I watch many daily. ;) -- This ant finally went out far after 2 months and 23 days / 12 weeks / 84 days / 0.23 years. :O ..!.. *isms, sins, devil, illness (e.g., COVID-19/2019-nCoV/SARS-CoV-2), etc. Note: A fixed width font (Courier, Monospace, etc.) is required to see this signature correctly. /\___/\ http://aqfl.net & http://antfarm.ma.cx / / /\ /\ \ http://antfarm.home.dhs.org | |o o| | Axe ANT from its address if shown & e-mailing privately. \ _ / Please kindly use Ant nickname & URL/link if crediting. ( ) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: What's the highest memory usage you have seen from your seamonkey.exe in Windows?
Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote: Paul in Houston, TX wrote: Ant wrote: Mine went over 3 GB of RAM for its working set, 4.5 GB for its peak working set, and almost 30K of page faults. It was mostly caused by many tabs of YouTube.com in my decade old, updated 64-bit W7 HPE SP1 PC (6 GB of RAM). :( Thank you for reading and hopefully answering. :) I have never seen mine above 650k. Don't you mean 650 MB? You are correct. I meant MB... accidentally left off 3 zeros. I currently have 5 separate instances of SM open to test and am using 485,904K. I don't have a win7 disk cache. Ram cache only. https://www.foxnews.com/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SB-qEYVdvXA (cute kitties) https://nmap.org/ https://avcams.faa.gov/sitelist.php https://radar.weather.gov/Conus/centgrtlakes_loop.php ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: What's the highest memory usage you have seen from your seamonkey.exe in Windows?
Gerry Hickman wrote: Ant wrote: Mine went over 3 GB of RAM for its working set, 4.5 GB for its peak working set, and almost 30K of page faults. It was mostly caused by many tabs of YouTube.com in my decade old, updated 64-bit W7 HPE SP1 PC (6 GB of RAM). :( Well, youtube is supposed to be for watching videos, so I can't imagine why you'd need more than one tab open, but yes, everyone knows that if you visit huge data sucking sites that run thousands of "affiliate" scripts, then bad things will happen. Memory use can be a bit misleading anyway, because modern applications will sometimes keep huge chunks of memory in the background "in case they're suddenly needed", trying to trick the user into thinking they're getting better performance. However, a well written app should free the memory when it closes. I don't know how you measured it, but there's a really good extension in Seamonkey called "SeaMonkey Debug and QA UI", that shows you what's going on inside the browser, including memory, and there's even a menu item where you can "Flush Memory". Ever tried about:memory ? I then clicked "Measure" under "Show memory reports". My Seamonkey version - on this machine - is a bit older than yours but that should not make any difference. -- spammo ergo sum, viruses courtesy of https://www.nsa.gov/malware/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: What's the highest memory usage you have seen from your seamonkey.exe in Windows?
Paul in Houston, TX wrote: Ant wrote: Mine went over 3 GB of RAM for its working set, 4.5 GB for its peak working set, and almost 30K of page faults. It was mostly caused by many tabs of YouTube.com in my decade old, updated 64-bit W7 HPE SP1 PC (6 GB of RAM). :( Thank you for reading and hopefully answering. :) I have never seen mine above 650k. Don't you mean 650 MB? -- spammo ergo sum, viruses courtesy of https://www.nsa.gov/malware/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: What's the highest memory usage you have seen from your seamonkey.exe in Windows?
Ant wrote: Mine went over 3 GB of RAM for its working set, 4.5 GB for its peak working set, and almost 30K of page faults. It was mostly caused by many tabs of YouTube.com in my decade old, updated 64-bit W7 HPE SP1 PC (6 GB of RAM). :( Thank you for reading and hopefully answering. :) I have never seen mine above 650k. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: What's the highest memory usage you have seen from your seamonkey.exe in Windows?
Ant wrote: Mine went over 3 GB of RAM for its working set, 4.5 GB for its peak working set, and almost 30K of page faults. It was mostly caused by many tabs of YouTube.com in my decade old, updated 64-bit W7 HPE SP1 PC (6 GB of RAM). :( Well, youtube is supposed to be for watching videos, so I can't imagine why you'd need more than one tab open, but yes, everyone knows that if you visit huge data sucking sites that run thousands of "affiliate" scripts, then bad things will happen. Memory use can be a bit misleading anyway, because modern applications will sometimes keep huge chunks of memory in the background "in case they're suddenly needed", trying to trick the user into thinking they're getting better performance. However, a well written app should free the memory when it closes. I don't know how you measured it, but there's a really good extension in Seamonkey called "SeaMonkey Debug and QA UI", that shows you what's going on inside the browser, including memory, and there's even a menu item where you can "Flush Memory". -- Gerry Hickman (London UK) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: What's the highest memory usage you have seen from your seamonkey.exe in Windows?
On 6/9/20 3:16 PM, Ant wrote: Mine went over 3 GB of RAM for its working set, 4.5 GB for its peak working set, and almost 30K of page faults. It was mostly caused by many tabs of YouTube.com in my decade old, updated 64-bit W7 HPE SP1 PC (6 GB of RAM). :( Thank you for reading and hopefully answering. :) I don't pay attention to CPU or memory usage with any of my browsers or email applications. I'm pretty sure they haven't gone over 500 MB. If they even get there. Then we may not be using our browsers in the same way. I rarely go to YouTube. -- OS: Ubuntu Linux 18.04LTS - Gnome Desktop https://www.thunderbird.net/en-US/get-involved/ https://give.thunderbird.net/en-US/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
What's the highest memory usage you have seen from your seamonkey.exe in Windows?
Mine went over 3 GB of RAM for its working set, 4.5 GB for its peak working set, and almost 30K of page faults. It was mostly caused by many tabs of YouTube.com in my decade old, updated 64-bit W7 HPE SP1 PC (6 GB of RAM). :( Thank you for reading and hopefully answering. :) -- This ant finally went out far after 2 months and 23 days / 12 weeks / 84 days / 0.23 years. :O ..!.. *isms, sins, devil, illness (e.g., COVID-19/2019-nCoV/SARS-CoV-2), etc. Note: A fixed width font (Courier, Monospace, etc.) is required to see this signature correctly. /\___/\ http://aqfl.net & http://antfarm.ma.cx / / /\ /\ \ http://antfarm.home.dhs.org | |o o| | Axe ANT from its address if shown & e-mailing privately. \ _ / Please kindly use Ant nickname & URL/link if crediting. ( ) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
