Re: [Sursound] Passive small speaker advice

2019-01-13 Thread Marc Lavallée 

Le 2019-01-13 à 7:01 a.m., Richard Foss a écrit :

Bruce, considering that price is an issue for you, you could look at the 
miniDSP SPK-4. It has an interesting cousin, the SPK-4P. The SPK-4P is an 
Ethernet AVB-capable speaker, and can get power, audio and control over the 
Ethernet cable. This eases configuration. The SPK-4 can also power an attached 
SPK4. You could have a configuration with up to 120 speakers.


A link to the range of products: 
https://www.immersivedsp.com/collections/all


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On 11 Jan 2019, at 1:35 PM, Bruce Wiggins  wrote:

Thanks to all for suggestions.  Really appreciated.  Definitely some
possible solutions in there, depending on how much money I can wangle.

cheers

Bruce



On Fri, 11 Jan 2019 at 09:01, Axel Drioli  wrote:


I second KEF egg E301. Coaxial, great sounding! Been using them for two
years now in any sort of situation, from studio to installations.


On Thu, 10 Jan 2019 at 23:54, Sönke Pelzer 
wrote:


There aren't many loudspeakers in that test, but the measured Genelec

8351A

is the winner in nearly every category (if you take the time and look at
the data, e.g. homogeneity and smoothness of directivity across frequency
and angles, distortions, etc.)

Am Do., 10. Jan. 2019 um 02:24 Uhr schrieb Sven König :


On 01/09/2019 02:27 PM, Bruce Wiggins wrote:

Hello Sursounders (and Happy New Year!)

For many years, we've been running our Sounds in Space research

symposium

using lots of old passive minipod speakers (as Peter Lennox had lots

of

these at the time of our first symposium, an we've been using them

ever

since https://www.podspeakers.com/)

hi bruce,

kef ls50 were suggested before but if the budget is tight you should
also consider kef q150.
for ambisonics the kefs are actually the only speakers that are really
usable when you need a big sweetspot because of their wide and even
dispersion. i've never understood why in so many places adams, genelecs
or neumanns are used - their dispersion is really poor.
here's an interesting comparison:
https://www.princeton.edu/3D3A/Directivity.html

sven.

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Re: [Sursound] Passive small speaker advice

2019-01-13 Thread Richard Foss 
Bruce, considering that price is an issue for you, you could look at the 
miniDSP SPK-4. It has an interesting cousin, the SPK-4P. The SPK-4P is an 
Ethernet AVB-capable speaker, and can get power, audio and control over the 
Ethernet cable. This eases configuration. The SPK-4 can also power an attached 
SPK4. You could have a configuration with up to 120 speakers.

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Cell: +27 83 288 9354



> On 11 Jan 2019, at 1:35 PM, Bruce Wiggins  wrote:
> 
> Thanks to all for suggestions.  Really appreciated.  Definitely some
> possible solutions in there, depending on how much money I can wangle.
> 
> cheers
> 
> Bruce
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, 11 Jan 2019 at 09:01, Axel Drioli  wrote:
> 
>> I second KEF egg E301. Coaxial, great sounding! Been using them for two
>> years now in any sort of situation, from studio to installations.
>> 
>> 
>> On Thu, 10 Jan 2019 at 23:54, Sönke Pelzer 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> There aren't many loudspeakers in that test, but the measured Genelec
>> 8351A
>>> is the winner in nearly every category (if you take the time and look at
>>> the data, e.g. homogeneity and smoothness of directivity across frequency
>>> and angles, distortions, etc.)
>>> 
>>> Am Do., 10. Jan. 2019 um 02:24 Uhr schrieb Sven König :
>>> 
 On 01/09/2019 02:27 PM, Bruce Wiggins wrote:
> Hello Sursounders (and Happy New Year!)
> 
> For many years, we've been running our Sounds in Space research
>>> symposium
> using lots of old passive minipod speakers (as Peter Lennox had lots
>> of
> these at the time of our first symposium, an we've been using them
>> ever
> since https://www.podspeakers.com/)
 hi bruce,
 
 kef ls50 were suggested before but if the budget is tight you should
 also consider kef q150.
 for ambisonics the kefs are actually the only speakers that are really
 usable when you need a big sweetspot because of their wide and even
 dispersion. i've never understood why in so many places adams, genelecs
 or neumanns are used - their dispersion is really poor.
 here's an interesting comparison:
 https://www.princeton.edu/3D3A/Directivity.html
 
 sven.
 
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Re: [Sursound] Passive small speaker advice

2019-01-11 Thread Bruce Wiggins 
Thanks to all for suggestions.  Really appreciated.  Definitely some
possible solutions in there, depending on how much money I can wangle.

cheers

Bruce



On Fri, 11 Jan 2019 at 09:01, Axel Drioli  wrote:

> I second KEF egg E301. Coaxial, great sounding! Been using them for two
> years now in any sort of situation, from studio to installations.
>
>
> On Thu, 10 Jan 2019 at 23:54, Sönke Pelzer 
> wrote:
>
> > There aren't many loudspeakers in that test, but the measured Genelec
> 8351A
> > is the winner in nearly every category (if you take the time and look at
> > the data, e.g. homogeneity and smoothness of directivity across frequency
> > and angles, distortions, etc.)
> >
> > Am Do., 10. Jan. 2019 um 02:24 Uhr schrieb Sven König :
> >
> > > On 01/09/2019 02:27 PM, Bruce Wiggins wrote:
> > > > Hello Sursounders (and Happy New Year!)
> > > >
> > > > For many years, we've been running our Sounds in Space research
> > symposium
> > > > using lots of old passive minipod speakers (as Peter Lennox had lots
> of
> > > > these at the time of our first symposium, an we've been using them
> ever
> > > > since https://www.podspeakers.com/)
> > > hi bruce,
> > >
> > > kef ls50 were suggested before but if the budget is tight you should
> > > also consider kef q150.
> > > for ambisonics the kefs are actually the only speakers that are really
> > > usable when you need a big sweetspot because of their wide and even
> > > dispersion. i've never understood why in so many places adams, genelecs
> > > or neumanns are used - their dispersion is really poor.
> > > here's an interesting comparison:
> > > https://www.princeton.edu/3D3A/Directivity.html
> > >
> > > sven.
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Re: [Sursound] Passive small speaker advice

2019-01-11 Thread Axel Drioli 
I second KEF egg E301. Coaxial, great sounding! Been using them for two
years now in any sort of situation, from studio to installations.


On Thu, 10 Jan 2019 at 23:54, Sönke Pelzer 
wrote:

> There aren't many loudspeakers in that test, but the measured Genelec 8351A
> is the winner in nearly every category (if you take the time and look at
> the data, e.g. homogeneity and smoothness of directivity across frequency
> and angles, distortions, etc.)
>
> Am Do., 10. Jan. 2019 um 02:24 Uhr schrieb Sven König :
>
> > On 01/09/2019 02:27 PM, Bruce Wiggins wrote:
> > > Hello Sursounders (and Happy New Year!)
> > >
> > > For many years, we've been running our Sounds in Space research
> symposium
> > > using lots of old passive minipod speakers (as Peter Lennox had lots of
> > > these at the time of our first symposium, an we've been using them ever
> > > since https://www.podspeakers.com/)
> > hi bruce,
> >
> > kef ls50 were suggested before but if the budget is tight you should
> > also consider kef q150.
> > for ambisonics the kefs are actually the only speakers that are really
> > usable when you need a big sweetspot because of their wide and even
> > dispersion. i've never understood why in so many places adams, genelecs
> > or neumanns are used - their dispersion is really poor.
> > here's an interesting comparison:
> > https://www.princeton.edu/3D3A/Directivity.html
> >
> > sven.
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Re: [Sursound] Passive small speaker advice

2019-01-10 Thread Sönke Pelzer 
There aren't many loudspeakers in that test, but the measured Genelec 8351A
is the winner in nearly every category (if you take the time and look at
the data, e.g. homogeneity and smoothness of directivity across frequency
and angles, distortions, etc.)

Am Do., 10. Jan. 2019 um 02:24 Uhr schrieb Sven König :

> On 01/09/2019 02:27 PM, Bruce Wiggins wrote:
> > Hello Sursounders (and Happy New Year!)
> >
> > For many years, we've been running our Sounds in Space research symposium
> > using lots of old passive minipod speakers (as Peter Lennox had lots of
> > these at the time of our first symposium, an we've been using them ever
> > since https://www.podspeakers.com/)
> hi bruce,
>
> kef ls50 were suggested before but if the budget is tight you should
> also consider kef q150.
> for ambisonics the kefs are actually the only speakers that are really
> usable when you need a big sweetspot because of their wide and even
> dispersion. i've never understood why in so many places adams, genelecs
> or neumanns are used - their dispersion is really poor.
> here's an interesting comparison:
> https://www.princeton.edu/3D3A/Directivity.html
>
> sven.
>
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Re: [Sursound] Passive small speaker advice

2019-01-10 Thread Drew Kirkland 
If your looking for a small footprint, have a look at ohm boutique 4" tops,
lot of bang for your buck.

Drew

On Thu, 10 Jan 2019, 12:28 dan2...@yotz.org,  wrote:

> PSI A14
>
> I only have a pair so far, but they arrived so well matched that the
> soundstage is huge... When resources allow, would like a large array of
> these myself.
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Re: [Sursound] Passive small speaker advice

2019-01-10 Thread dan2...@yotz.org 
PSI A14

I only have a pair so far, but they arrived so well matched that the soundstage 
is huge... When resources allow, would like a large array of these myself.
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Re: [Sursound] Passive small speaker advice

2019-01-10 Thread Augustine Leudar 
Acoustic energy extreme 8 sound OK will have enough bass for your room  and
big metal brackets on the back.
 (Ps kef eggs sound OK but are way to small for your space and would be a
downgrade from the b&w type things you already have)
I'd look at getting a grant and go Genelec though they really are
outstanding - even worth the added hassle of running power to. If you sold
each monoblock for a couple of hundred quid you'd probably be looking at
paying 300 quid for each 8330


On Thursday, 10 January 2019, Bruce Wiggins  wrote:

> Thanks.  Ideally passive, but always open to suggestions :-)
>
> Thanks
>
> Bruce
>
> On Thu, 10 Jan 2019 at 10:39, Augustine Leudar 
> wrote:
>
> > I though you said passive but if you're willing to consider active and
> sell
> > all the moles then the Generic 8330 are much cheaper than the ones .
> really
> > accurate , sound great can be daisychained via the AES digital input so
> > cabling easier and you could use glm to calibrate the whole system. If
> you
> > sold the moles then it would probably be the same price or cheaper than
> > passive options. They're mountable too.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wednesday, 9 January 2019, Bruce Wiggins 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks David.  I've pinged them an email :-)
> > >
> > > Hopefully there's a mounting optionthat seems to be the limiting
> > factor
> > > for us.
> > >
> > > cheers
> > >
> > > Bruce
> > >
> > > On Wed, 9 Jan 2019 at 21:17, David Stalling 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > I'd like to recommend Australian company Grover Notting. I got a few
> of
> > > > their CR Series passive monitors last year and am very happy with
> them
> > > (and
> > > > also with the price!).
> > > > https://www.classicaudiodesigns.com.au/tech-cross-ref.php
> > > > Not much detailed info on their website but available on request.
> > > >
> > > > Best,
> > > > David
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, 9 Jan 2019 at 19:41, Bruce Wiggins 
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > ..just looked at the price of the Genelec Ones...definitely
> > > > > wouldn't be able to get many of them! ;-)
> > > > >
> > > > > KEF LS50s look very promising :-)
> > > > >
> > > > > PCMs (we actually got hold of the flying moles, years ago, as we
> knew
> > > PMC
> > > > > used them..they are good, too!) - not sure these are flyable
> very
> > > > > easily..
> > > > >
> > > > > Any other suggestions?
> > > > >
> > > > > cheers
> > > > >
> > > > > Bruce
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, 9 Jan 2019 at 19:34, Steven Boardman <
> > > boardroomout...@gmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > I second any Genelecs too!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Steve
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 9 Jan 2019, at 19:04, Jack Reynolds <
> > jackreynolds...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Genelec The Ones if you can stretch to it.
> > > > > > > Jack
> > > > > > >
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Re: [Sursound] Passive small speaker advice

2019-01-10 Thread Bruce Wiggins 
Thanks.  Ideally passive, but always open to suggestions :-)

Thanks

Bruce

On Thu, 10 Jan 2019 at 10:39, Augustine Leudar 
wrote:

> I though you said passive but if you're willing to consider active and sell
> all the moles then the Generic 8330 are much cheaper than the ones . really
> accurate , sound great can be daisychained via the AES digital input so
> cabling easier and you could use glm to calibrate the whole system. If you
> sold the moles then it would probably be the same price or cheaper than
> passive options. They're mountable too.
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, 9 January 2019, Bruce Wiggins 
> wrote:
>
> > Thanks David.  I've pinged them an email :-)
> >
> > Hopefully there's a mounting optionthat seems to be the limiting
> factor
> > for us.
> >
> > cheers
> >
> > Bruce
> >
> > On Wed, 9 Jan 2019 at 21:17, David Stalling 
> wrote:
> >
> > > I'd like to recommend Australian company Grover Notting. I got a few of
> > > their CR Series passive monitors last year and am very happy with them
> > (and
> > > also with the price!).
> > > https://www.classicaudiodesigns.com.au/tech-cross-ref.php
> > > Not much detailed info on their website but available on request.
> > >
> > > Best,
> > > David
> > >
> > > On Wed, 9 Jan 2019 at 19:41, Bruce Wiggins 
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > ..just looked at the price of the Genelec Ones...definitely
> > > > wouldn't be able to get many of them! ;-)
> > > >
> > > > KEF LS50s look very promising :-)
> > > >
> > > > PCMs (we actually got hold of the flying moles, years ago, as we knew
> > PMC
> > > > used them..they are good, too!) - not sure these are flyable very
> > > > easily..
> > > >
> > > > Any other suggestions?
> > > >
> > > > cheers
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> > > > > > On 9 Jan 2019, at 19:04, Jack Reynolds <
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> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
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Re: [Sursound] Passive small speaker advice

2019-01-10 Thread Augustine Leudar 
I though you said passive but if you're willing to consider active and sell
all the moles then the Generic 8330 are much cheaper than the ones . really
accurate , sound great can be daisychained via the AES digital input so
cabling easier and you could use glm to calibrate the whole system. If you
sold the moles then it would probably be the same price or cheaper than
passive options. They're mountable too.



On Wednesday, 9 January 2019, Bruce Wiggins  wrote:

> Thanks David.  I've pinged them an email :-)
>
> Hopefully there's a mounting optionthat seems to be the limiting factor
> for us.
>
> cheers
>
> Bruce
>
> On Wed, 9 Jan 2019 at 21:17, David Stalling  wrote:
>
> > I'd like to recommend Australian company Grover Notting. I got a few of
> > their CR Series passive monitors last year and am very happy with them
> (and
> > also with the price!).
> > https://www.classicaudiodesigns.com.au/tech-cross-ref.php
> > Not much detailed info on their website but available on request.
> >
> > Best,
> > David
> >
> > On Wed, 9 Jan 2019 at 19:41, Bruce Wiggins 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > ..just looked at the price of the Genelec Ones...definitely
> > > wouldn't be able to get many of them! ;-)
> > >
> > > KEF LS50s look very promising :-)
> > >
> > > PCMs (we actually got hold of the flying moles, years ago, as we knew
> PMC
> > > used them..they are good, too!) - not sure these are flyable very
> > > easily..
> > >
> > > Any other suggestions?
> > >
> > > cheers
> > >
> > > Bruce
> > >
> > > On Wed, 9 Jan 2019 at 19:34, Steven Boardman <
> boardroomout...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > I second any Genelecs too!
> > > >
> > > > Steve
> > > >
> > > > > On 9 Jan 2019, at 19:04, Jack Reynolds 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Genelec The Ones if you can stretch to it.
> > > > > Jack
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Re: [Sursound] Passive small speaker advice

2019-01-10 Thread Sven König 

On 01/09/2019 02:27 PM, Bruce Wiggins wrote:

Hello Sursounders (and Happy New Year!)

For many years, we've been running our Sounds in Space research symposium
using lots of old passive minipod speakers (as Peter Lennox had lots of
these at the time of our first symposium, an we've been using them ever
since https://www.podspeakers.com/)

hi bruce,

kef ls50 were suggested before but if the budget is tight you should 
also consider kef q150.
for ambisonics the kefs are actually the only speakers that are really 
usable when you need a big sweetspot because of their wide and even 
dispersion. i've never understood why in so many places adams, genelecs 
or neumanns are used - their dispersion is really poor.
here's an interesting comparison: 
https://www.princeton.edu/3D3A/Directivity.html


sven.

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Re: [Sursound] Passive small speaker advice

2019-01-09 Thread Bruce Wiggins 
Thanks David.  I've pinged them an email :-)

Hopefully there's a mounting optionthat seems to be the limiting factor
for us.

cheers

Bruce

On Wed, 9 Jan 2019 at 21:17, David Stalling  wrote:

> I'd like to recommend Australian company Grover Notting. I got a few of
> their CR Series passive monitors last year and am very happy with them (and
> also with the price!).
> https://www.classicaudiodesigns.com.au/tech-cross-ref.php
> Not much detailed info on their website but available on request.
>
> Best,
> David
>
> On Wed, 9 Jan 2019 at 19:41, Bruce Wiggins 
> wrote:
>
> > ..just looked at the price of the Genelec Ones...definitely
> > wouldn't be able to get many of them! ;-)
> >
> > KEF LS50s look very promising :-)
> >
> > PCMs (we actually got hold of the flying moles, years ago, as we knew PMC
> > used them..they are good, too!) - not sure these are flyable very
> > easily..
> >
> > Any other suggestions?
> >
> > cheers
> >
> > Bruce
> >
> > On Wed, 9 Jan 2019 at 19:34, Steven Boardman 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I second any Genelecs too!
> > >
> > > Steve
> > >
> > > > On 9 Jan 2019, at 19:04, Jack Reynolds 
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Genelec The Ones if you can stretch to it.
> > > > Jack
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Re: [Sursound] Passive small speaker advice

2019-01-09 Thread Bo-Erik Sandholm 
Second hand KEF eggs, It should be possible to get sets of 5 for around 100
- 200 pounds.

Search for KEF egg speakers on eBay.co.uk

Bosse

On Wed, 9 Jan 2019 20:41 Bruce Wiggins  ..just looked at the price of the Genelec Ones...definitely
> wouldn't be able to get many of them! ;-)
>
> KEF LS50s look very promising :-)
>
> PCMs (we actually got hold of the flying moles, years ago, as we knew PMC
> used them..they are good, too!) - not sure these are flyable very
> easily..
>
> Any other suggestions?
>
> cheers
>
> Bruce
>
> On Wed, 9 Jan 2019 at 19:34, Steven Boardman 
> wrote:
>
> > I second any Genelecs too!
> >
> > Steve
> >
> > > On 9 Jan 2019, at 19:04, Jack Reynolds 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Genelec The Ones if you can stretch to it.
> > > Jack
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On 9 Jan 2019 20:41, "Bruce Wiggins"  wrote:

..just looked at the price of the Genelec Ones...definitely
wouldn't be able to get many of them! ;-)

KEF LS50s look very promising :-)

PCMs (we actually got hold of the flying moles, years ago, as we knew PMC
used them..they are good, too!) - not sure these are flyable very
easily..

Any other suggestions?

cheers

Bruce

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wrote:


> I second any Genelecs too!
>
> Steve
>
> > On 9 Jan 2019, at 19:04, Jack Reynolds 
> wrote:
> >
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Re: [Sursound] Passive small speaker advice

2019-01-09 Thread David Stalling 
I'd like to recommend Australian company Grover Notting. I got a few of
their CR Series passive monitors last year and am very happy with them (and
also with the price!).
https://www.classicaudiodesigns.com.au/tech-cross-ref.php
Not much detailed info on their website but available on request.

Best,
David

On Wed, 9 Jan 2019 at 19:41, Bruce Wiggins  wrote:

> ..just looked at the price of the Genelec Ones...definitely
> wouldn't be able to get many of them! ;-)
>
> KEF LS50s look very promising :-)
>
> PCMs (we actually got hold of the flying moles, years ago, as we knew PMC
> used them..they are good, too!) - not sure these are flyable very
> easily..
>
> Any other suggestions?
>
> cheers
>
> Bruce
>
> On Wed, 9 Jan 2019 at 19:34, Steven Boardman 
> wrote:
>
> > I second any Genelecs too!
> >
> > Steve
> >
> > > On 9 Jan 2019, at 19:04, Jack Reynolds 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Genelec The Ones if you can stretch to it.
> > > Jack
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Re: [Sursound] Passive small speaker advice

2019-01-09 Thread Bruce Wiggins 
..just looked at the price of the Genelec Ones...definitely
wouldn't be able to get many of them! ;-)

KEF LS50s look very promising :-)

PCMs (we actually got hold of the flying moles, years ago, as we knew PMC
used them..they are good, too!) - not sure these are flyable very
easily..

Any other suggestions?

cheers

Bruce

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wrote:

> I second any Genelecs too!
>
> Steve
>
> > On 9 Jan 2019, at 19:04, Jack Reynolds 
> wrote:
> >
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Re: [Sursound] Passive small speaker advice

2019-01-09 Thread Steven Boardman 
I second any Genelecs too!

Steve

> On 9 Jan 2019, at 19:04, Jack Reynolds  wrote:
> 
> Genelec The Ones if you can stretch to it. 
> Jack
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Re: [Sursound] Passive small speaker advice

2019-01-09 Thread Bruce Wiggins 
Thanks for all these suggestions :-)

Cheers

Bruce

On Wed, 9 Jan 2019, 19:05 Jack Reynolds  Genelec The Ones if you can stretch to it.
> Jack
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On 9 Jan 2019, at 17:29, Augustine Leudar 
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Bruce
> > PMC TB2S+ or smaller db1 are a good match for the flying mole amps. They
> do
> > studio and hi versions not the flattest but time based response is really
> > good.
> > They were often sold with the flying me amps too so there's that
> >
> >
> >> On Wednesday, 9 January 2019, Bruce Wiggins 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hello Sursounders (and Happy New Year!)
> >>
> >> For many years, we've been running our Sounds in Space research
> symposium
> >> using lots of old passive minipod speakers (as Peter Lennox had lots of
> >> these at the time of our first symposium, an we've been using them ever
> >> since https://www.podspeakers.com/)
> >>
> >> However, it's come to the time where we really need to invest in a
> >> replacement for these, essentially hifi, speakers!
> >>
> >> We have a large number of flying mole amplifiers (100W into 8ohm - like
> >> these https://www.flyingmole.co.jp/new_en/products/new_product/
> >> dadm100pro2/
> >> ) and are looking for advice on small speakers we could use to replace
> the
> >> minipods with.
> >>
> >> We'll be wanting around 30 of them, and need to fly them on truss for a
> 3D
> >> rig and sounds level wise, the minipods have actually been ok but are a
> >> little under-spec'ed (having lots of subs on the floor helps!)
> >>
> >> Anyone got any good suggestions/experiences they'd be happy to share?
> >>
> >> Sounds in Space last year:
> >> https://www.brucewiggins.co.uk/?page_id=1119
> >>
> >> cheers
> >>
> >> Bruce Wiggins
> >> Derby
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Re: [Sursound] Passive small speaker advice

2019-01-09 Thread Jack Reynolds 
Genelec The Ones if you can stretch to it. 
Jack

Sent from my iPhone

> On 9 Jan 2019, at 17:29, Augustine Leudar  wrote:
> 
> Hi Bruce
> PMC TB2S+ or smaller db1 are a good match for the flying mole amps. They do
> studio and hi versions not the flattest but time based response is really
> good.
> They were often sold with the flying me amps too so there's that
> 
> 
>> On Wednesday, 9 January 2019, Bruce Wiggins  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Sursounders (and Happy New Year!)
>> 
>> For many years, we've been running our Sounds in Space research symposium
>> using lots of old passive minipod speakers (as Peter Lennox had lots of
>> these at the time of our first symposium, an we've been using them ever
>> since https://www.podspeakers.com/)
>> 
>> However, it's come to the time where we really need to invest in a
>> replacement for these, essentially hifi, speakers!
>> 
>> We have a large number of flying mole amplifiers (100W into 8ohm - like
>> these https://www.flyingmole.co.jp/new_en/products/new_product/
>> dadm100pro2/
>> ) and are looking for advice on small speakers we could use to replace the
>> minipods with.
>> 
>> We'll be wanting around 30 of them, and need to fly them on truss for a 3D
>> rig and sounds level wise, the minipods have actually been ok but are a
>> little under-spec'ed (having lots of subs on the floor helps!)
>> 
>> Anyone got any good suggestions/experiences they'd be happy to share?
>> 
>> Sounds in Space last year:
>> https://www.brucewiggins.co.uk/?page_id=1119
>> 
>> cheers
>> 
>> Bruce Wiggins
>> Derby
>> UK
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Re: [Sursound] Passive small speaker advice

2019-01-09 Thread Drew Kirkland 
Hi,
Funktion one are about to launch a 5" top which has excellent acoustics, as
soon as I get pricing and official specs I will post the details.
Drew







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On Wed, 9 Jan 2019, 13:28 Bruce Wiggins  Hello Sursounders (and Happy New Year!)
>
> For many years, we've been running our Sounds in Space research symposium
> using lots of old passive minipod speakers (as Peter Lennox had lots of
> these at the time of our first symposium, an we've been using them ever
> since https://www.podspeakers.com/)
>
> However, it's come to the time where we really need to invest in a
> replacement for these, essentially hifi, speakers!
>
> We have a large number of flying mole amplifiers (100W into 8ohm - like
> these
> https://www.flyingmole.co.jp/new_en/products/new_product/dadm100pro2/
> ) and are looking for advice on small speakers we could use to replace the
> minipods with.
>
> We'll be wanting around 30 of them, and need to fly them on truss for a 3D
> rig and sounds level wise, the minipods have actually been ok but are a
> little under-spec'ed (having lots of subs on the floor helps!)
>
> Anyone got any good suggestions/experiences they'd be happy to share?
>
> Sounds in Space last year:
> https://www.brucewiggins.co.uk/?page_id=1119
>
> cheers
>
> Bruce Wiggins
> Derby
> UK
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Re: [Sursound] Passive small speaker advice

2019-01-09 Thread Len Moskowitz 

Bruce Wiggins wrote:


We ... are looking for advice on small speakers we could use to 
replace the

minipods with.



KEF LS50




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Re: [Sursound] Passive small speaker advice

2019-01-09 Thread Augustine Leudar 
Hi Bruce
PMC TB2S+ or smaller db1 are a good match for the flying mole amps. They do
studio and hi versions not the flattest but time based response is really
good.
They were often sold with the flying me amps too so there's that


On Wednesday, 9 January 2019, Bruce Wiggins  wrote:

> Hello Sursounders (and Happy New Year!)
>
> For many years, we've been running our Sounds in Space research symposium
> using lots of old passive minipod speakers (as Peter Lennox had lots of
> these at the time of our first symposium, an we've been using them ever
> since https://www.podspeakers.com/)
>
> However, it's come to the time where we really need to invest in a
> replacement for these, essentially hifi, speakers!
>
> We have a large number of flying mole amplifiers (100W into 8ohm - like
> these https://www.flyingmole.co.jp/new_en/products/new_product/
> dadm100pro2/
> ) and are looking for advice on small speakers we could use to replace the
> minipods with.
>
> We'll be wanting around 30 of them, and need to fly them on truss for a 3D
> rig and sounds level wise, the minipods have actually been ok but are a
> little under-spec'ed (having lots of subs on the floor helps!)
>
> Anyone got any good suggestions/experiences they'd be happy to share?
>
> Sounds in Space last year:
> https://www.brucewiggins.co.uk/?page_id=1119
>
> cheers
>
> Bruce Wiggins
> Derby
> UK
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