[biofuels-biz] Re: [biofuel] Fwd: New fuel cell runs on sugar syrup---who needs Exxon anyway.
This whole setup kicks ass. I keep thinking of a picture of Christopher Lloyd in Back to the Future as Doc Brown, putting biomass into a Cuisinart to power his Time Travel Machine. But anyway, these news releases are showing some progress of using biomass in fuel cells. Excellent. I especially like this sugar syrup idea. I wonder if it runs on High Fructose Corn Syrup and not just the good stuff. Our bodies these days seem so often asked to imbibe the former and not the latter, I wonder if we couldn't leave the former for fuel cells and kick back at the table using the real maple syrup for pancakes. Subject: New fuel cell runs on sugar syrup---who needs Exxon anyway. Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 18:29:06 -0500 Fuel cell runs on sugar water (glucose, sucrose et. al.) As noted in [...] The significant advantage of this development is: (a.) Syrup is a liquid fuel, which inherently have a much higher energy content than impractical-to-compress hydrogen. Nor is energy density Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel at WebConX http://webconx.green-trust.org/2000/biofuel/biofuel.htm List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuels-biz] Columbia Space Shuttle Lost
-- NASA reports losing contact with space shuttle Columbia at 9 a.m. EST prior its scheduled landing at 9:16 a.m. Watch CNN or log on to http://CNN.com /AOL Keyword: CNN for the latest news. Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter Discussion Boards. Read about Sustainable Technology: http://www.green-trust.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel at WebConX http://webconx.green-trust.org/2000/biofuel/biofuel.htm List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuels-biz] Re: [biofuel] OT: Columbia Space Shuttle Lost
Not much weather above 6 ft. Shuttle was in unpowered glide mode. Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter Discussion Boards. Read about Sustainable Technology: http://www.green-trust.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: murdoch [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuels-biz@yahoogroups.com Cc: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 10:57 AM Subject: [biofuel] OT: Columbia Space Shuttle Lost I wonder if there are any weather-related lessons that can come from the two shuttle crashes (Jan. 28, 1986(?)) and now February 1, 2003). I think maybe with the first crash there were some on-the-launch-pad waiting issues that occurred in fueling, but I don't know. Ultimately, I don't mean to imply the causes were easy to pin down, just that I wonder how the time-of-year might affect any existing weaknesses or accidents-waiting-to-happen in the design, if they were there. On Sat, 1 Feb 2003 10:02:16 -0500, you wrote: -- NASA reports losing contact with space shuttle Columbia at 9 a.m. EST prior its scheduled landing at 9:16 a.m. Watch CNN or log on to http://CNN.com /AOL Keyword: CNN for the latest news. Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter Discussion Boards. Read about Sustainable Technology: http://www.green-trust.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel at WebConX http://webconx.green-trust.org/2000/biofuel/biofuel.htm List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel at WebConX http://webconx.green-trust.org/2000/biofuel/biofuel.htm List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuels-biz] OT: Columbia Space Shuttle Lost
I wonder if there are any weather-related lessons that can come from the two shuttle crashes (Jan. 28, 1986(?)) and now February 1, 2003). I think maybe with the first crash there were some on-the-launch-pad waiting issues that occurred in fueling, but I don't know. Ultimately, I don't mean to imply the causes were easy to pin down, just that I wonder how the time-of-year might affect any existing weaknesses or accidents-waiting-to-happen in the design, if they were there. On Sat, 1 Feb 2003 10:02:16 -0500, you wrote: -- NASA reports losing contact with space shuttle Columbia at 9 a.m. EST prior its scheduled landing at 9:16 a.m. Watch CNN or log on to http://CNN.com /AOL Keyword: CNN for the latest news. Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter Discussion Boards. Read about Sustainable Technology: http://www.green-trust.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel at WebConX http://webconx.green-trust.org/2000/biofuel/biofuel.htm List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel at WebConX http://webconx.green-trust.org/2000/biofuel/biofuel.htm List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuels-biz] OT: (fwd) [fuelcellvehicles] In Japan: BALLARD's 92% Efficiency 1 kW Stationary fc Generator
If this is Natural Gas Powered, and it looks like it is, then it sure seems
impressive. Not a biofuel-powered-fuel-cell exactly, but along with the other
Japan stories I've been reading, one more piece of evidence they're really
moving on some of these projects. How hard is it to gear biomass processing
toward Methane, in particular? I don't know, but if a lot of methane can be
derived from biomass, then that could lead to use of these fuel cells with
biomass in addition to using a regular natural gas hookup? Contamination might
be an issue?
MM
On Thu, 30 Jan 2003 20:50:08 -0800 (PST), Bruce EVangel Parmenter
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
EVLN(BALLARD's 92% Efficiency 1 kW Stationary fc Generator)
[The Internet Electric Vehicle List News. For Public EV
informational purposes. Contact publication for reprint rights.]
--- {EVangel}
EBARA BALLARD Unveils 1 kW Stationary Fuel Cell Generator
with Total Efficiency of 92%
VANCOUVER, British Columbia--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Jan. 29,
2003-- Ballard Power Systems' (NASDAQ:BLDP)(TSX:BLD) and
EBARA Corporation's jointly owned company EBARA BALLARD
unveiled the first generation of its pre-commercial 1kW
stationary combined heat and power proton exchange membrane
(PEM) fuel cell generator for the Japanese residential
market, building upon the second generation engineering
prototype fuel cell generator unveiled in January of 2002.
The system is manufactured by EBARA BALLARD and comprises a
Ballard (R) fuel cell, EBARA Corporation's newly developed
pumps and blowers, a reformer based on technology licenced
from Tokyo Gas, and a hot water storage tank.
We have set the standard for fuel cell performance in Japan
with our 1 kW combined heat and power fuel cell generator
achieving a total system efficiency (heat and electricity)
of 92 percent (LHV) of which 34 percent is the AC electrical
efficiency. Also of significance is the high partial load
efficiency of our system. At 50 percent rated load the total
system efficiency is 78 percent (LHV) with AC electrical
efficiency of 31 percent, said Masakatsu Ohya, EBARA
BALLARD's President. Each successive prototype generation
has demonstrated improved efficiency and reduced volume,
bringing this environmentally friendly power generator
closer to its planned introduction, in limited volumes, to
the Japanese residential market as a distributed power
source. We are still on track for a marketing launch in
late-2004.
The progress shown by each successive prototype generation
in increased efficiency and reduced volume is a testament to
Ballard's world class fuel cell expertise and the close
relationship we have with EBARA BALLARD, said John Harris,
Ballard's Managing Director, Asia Pacific. Ballard's
advances in fuel cell technology and EBARA BALLARD's
improvements in the balance of plant are creating a system
that leads the industry in efficiency, performance and size.
Our testing and development program will continue to focus
on enhancing product lifetime and reducing costs to enable
us to meet the market requirements for the commercial
product.
The pre-commercial power plant will undergo extensive
testing both in EBARA BALLARD's facility and in the field
allowing further improvement of this product prior to the
commercial launch of the initial commercial version. EBARA
BALLARD is based in Tokyo, Japan and its mandate is to
develop, manufacture and sell, fuel cell power generators
incorporating the Ballard (R) fuel cell to customers in
Japan.
EBARA Corporation is globally recognized as a major
developer, manufacturer and distributor of fluid machinery
and systems, precision machinery and environmental
engineering systems and as a leader in zero-emission energy
technology.
Ballard Power Systems is recognized as the world leader in
developing, manufacturing and marketing zero-emission proton
exchange membrane (PEM) fuel cells. Ballard is
commercializing fuel cell engines for transportation
applications and fuel cell systems for portable and
stationary products. Ballard is also commercializing
electric drives for fuel cell and other electric vehicles,
power conversion products, natural gas and hydrogen
generator sets and is a Tier 1 automotive supplier of
friction materials for power train components. Ballard's
proprietary technology is enabling automobile, bus,
electrical equipment, portable power and stationary product
manufacturers to develop environmentally clean products for
sale. Ballard is partnering with strong, world-leading
companies, including DaimlerChrysler, Ford, EBARA, ALSTOM
and FirstEnergy, to commercialize Ballard (R) fuel cells.
Ballard has supplied fuel cells to Honda, Nissan,
Volkswagen, Yamaha, Cinergy and Coleman Powermate, among
others.
This release contains forward-looking statements [...]
Ballard, the Ballard logo and Power to Change the World are
registered trademarks of Ballard Power Systems Inc.
CONTACT: Ballard Power Systems Inc. Michael Rosenberg,
604/412-3195 Fax: 604/412-3100 Email: [EMAIL
[biofuels-biz] Re: [biofuel] OT: (fwd) [fuelcellvehicles] In Japan: BALLARD's 92% Efficiency 1 kW Stationary fc Generator
If it is nat gas powered, this is cool. Biogas and nat gas are extremely
similar in makeup. throw your carbon/nitrogen digestibles in Mr. Fusion and
power a fuel cell for 45 days or so.
http://webconx.green-trust.org/methane.htm
Steve Spence
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From: murdoch [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuels-biz@yahoogroups.com
Cc: biofuel@yahoogroups.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 11:31 AM
Subject: [biofuel] OT: (fwd) [fuelcellvehicles] In Japan: BALLARD's 92%
Efficiency 1 kW Stationary fc Generator
If this is Natural Gas Powered, and it looks like it is, then it sure
seems
impressive. Not a biofuel-powered-fuel-cell exactly, but along with the
other
Japan stories I've been reading, one more piece of evidence they're really
moving on some of these projects. How hard is it to gear biomass
processing
toward Methane, in particular? I don't know, but if a lot of methane can
be
derived from biomass, then that could lead to use of these fuel cells with
biomass in addition to using a regular natural gas hookup? Contamination
might
be an issue?
MM
On Thu, 30 Jan 2003 20:50:08 -0800 (PST), Bruce EVangel Parmenter
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
EVLN(BALLARD's 92% Efficiency 1 kW Stationary fc Generator)
[The Internet Electric Vehicle List News. For Public EV
informational purposes. Contact publication for reprint rights.]
--- {EVangel}
EBARA BALLARD Unveils 1 kW Stationary Fuel Cell Generator
with Total Efficiency of 92%
VANCOUVER, British Columbia--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Jan. 29,
2003-- Ballard Power Systems' (NASDAQ:BLDP)(TSX:BLD) and
EBARA Corporation's jointly owned company EBARA BALLARD
unveiled the first generation of its pre-commercial 1kW
stationary combined heat and power proton exchange membrane
(PEM) fuel cell generator for the Japanese residential
market, building upon the second generation engineering
prototype fuel cell generator unveiled in January of 2002.
The system is manufactured by EBARA BALLARD and comprises a
Ballard (R) fuel cell, EBARA Corporation's newly developed
pumps and blowers, a reformer based on technology licenced
from Tokyo Gas, and a hot water storage tank.
We have set the standard for fuel cell performance in Japan
with our 1 kW combined heat and power fuel cell generator
achieving a total system efficiency (heat and electricity)
of 92 percent (LHV) of which 34 percent is the AC electrical
efficiency. Also of significance is the high partial load
efficiency of our system. At 50 percent rated load the total
system efficiency is 78 percent (LHV) with AC electrical
efficiency of 31 percent, said Masakatsu Ohya, EBARA
BALLARD's President. Each successive prototype generation
has demonstrated improved efficiency and reduced volume,
bringing this environmentally friendly power generator
closer to its planned introduction, in limited volumes, to
the Japanese residential market as a distributed power
source. We are still on track for a marketing launch in
late-2004.
The progress shown by each successive prototype generation
in increased efficiency and reduced volume is a testament to
Ballard's world class fuel cell expertise and the close
relationship we have with EBARA BALLARD, said John Harris,
Ballard's Managing Director, Asia Pacific. Ballard's
advances in fuel cell technology and EBARA BALLARD's
improvements in the balance of plant are creating a system
that leads the industry in efficiency, performance and size.
Our testing and development program will continue to focus
on enhancing product lifetime and reducing costs to enable
us to meet the market requirements for the commercial
product.
The pre-commercial power plant will undergo extensive
testing both in EBARA BALLARD's facility and in the field
allowing further improvement of this product prior to the
commercial launch of the initial commercial version. EBARA
BALLARD is based in Tokyo, Japan and its mandate is to
develop, manufacture and sell, fuel cell power generators
incorporating the Ballard (R) fuel cell to customers in
Japan.
EBARA Corporation is globally recognized as a major
developer, manufacturer and distributor of fluid machinery
and systems, precision machinery and environmental
engineering systems and as a leader in zero-emission energy
technology.
Ballard Power Systems is recognized as the world leader in
developing, manufacturing and marketing zero-emission proton
exchange membrane (PEM) fuel cells. Ballard is
commercializing fuel cell engines for transportation
applications and fuel cell systems for portable and
stationary products. Ballard is also commercializing
electric drives for fuel cell and other electric vehicles,
power conversion products, natural gas and hydrogen
generator sets and is a Tier 1 automotive supplier of
friction materials for
[biofuels-biz] OT: Biomass for building materials
http://earthblock.com/TGAssociates/products.htm Dunno anything about it, but I like the idea of new ideas in building materials, particularly if they lead to lower insurance, such as if they're fire-resistant or suffer less damage in certain types of natural disasters. Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel at WebConX http://webconx.green-trust.org/2000/biofuel/biofuel.htm List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuels-biz] Space shuttle
This is a very very sad day. Hakan ** If you want to take a look on a project that is very close to my heart, go to: http://energysavingnow.com/ http://hakan.vitools.net/ My .Net Card http://hakan.vitools.org/ About me http://vitools.com/ My webmaster site ** A truth's initial commotion is directly proportional to how deeply the lie was believed. It wasn't the world being round that agitated people, but that the world wasn't flat. When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic. -- Dresden James No flag is large enough to cover the shame of killing innocent people -- Howard Zinn Nobody grows old merely by living a number of years. We grow old by deserting our ideals. Years may wrinkle the skin, but to give up enthusiasm wrinkles the soul. - Unknown Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel at WebConX http://webconx.green-trust.org/2000/biofuel/biofuel.htm List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuels-biz] Brazil's green chief targets Petrobras polluter
http://www.planetark.org/dailynewsstory.cfm/newsid/19496/story.htm INTERVIEW - Brazil's green chief targets Petrobras polluter Mail this story to a friend | Printer friendly version BRAZIL: January 21, 2003 BRASILIA - Brazil's new Environment Minister Marina Silva says she wants to crack down on the country's record holder for environmental fines, state-owned oil giant Petrobras. In the past three years, Petrobras (PETR4.SA) (PBR.N) was responsible for a huge oil spill in Rio de Janeiro's Guanabara Bay and was also fined 168 million reais ($50 million) for polluting two rivers in the southern state of Parana. In 2000, its largest offshore rig sank following explosions that killed 11 crew members. One step being seriously considered is the participation of the (Ministry) of Environment on Petrobras' administrative council, Marina Silva, 44, told Reuters in an interview this week. Marina Silva said that both Petrobras President Jose Eduardo Dutra and Energy Minister Dilma Roussef support the idea. At Petrobras' headquarters in Rio de Janeiro, a spokesman noted that members of its council were nominated by the government. Declining to comment directly on Marina Silva's comments, the spokesman said, Petrobras is investing in projects to protect the environment. Marina Silva, a former rubber tapper, is one of the most popular members of leftist President Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva's government that took control of Latin America's largest country at the start of the month. From a poor family and illiterate until 16, Marina Silva will now try to make powerful Petrobras, the country's sole crude producer, toe the green line. Brazil is Latin America's No.3 oil producer, though still a net crude importer. PETROBRAS PIPELINE REVIEW A $340 million Petrobras project to build a gas pipeline through the Amazon forest from Urucu to Porto Velho may be blocked even though it was provisionally approved last year by Brazil's environmental agency, Ibama. We are carrying out a survey following a complaint by local people, said Marina Silva, adding that other projects by various large companies were also being reviewed. Marina Silva said she plans to expand the Amazon Solidarity Program involving traditional Indian communities by raising its budget fivefold to 21 million reais ($6.2 million). We want to continue such programs involving local people - riverside dwellers, rubber tappers, Indians, coconut gatherers, fishermen - and fight hunger in the Amazon region, Marina Silva said. President Lula has made the elimination of hunger a priority in a country where some 50 million people, or nearly one third of the population, can't afford three meals a day. Marina Silva also wanted to include loggers - traditional targets of environmentalists - in protecting the countryside. She said that most of them didn't break environmental laws deliberately. There's a lack of financial resources, technical support and in some cases laxity by control agencies which encourages illegality, she said. Environmental campaigners welcomed Silva's pledge to tighten controls on polluters. A seat on the board will help in planning positive changes in Petrobras, said Roberto Smeraldi, director of Friends of the Earth in Sao Paulo. But there's a lot to change and not just in Petrobras. Greenpeace said it had great expectations. When Marina Silva was a senator she showed she was a skilled negotiator, strategically involving many ministries and agencies. The environment will no longer be a side issue without funding, said Marcelo Furtado, Greenpeace's Latin American industrial pollution coordinator. Story by Frances Jones REUTERS NEWS SERVICE Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel at WebConX http://webconx.green-trust.org/2000/biofuel/biofuel.htm List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuels-biz] Private labs fake environmental tests, government finds
The fraud has caused millions of people to fill their cars with substandard gasoline that may have violated clean air standards, or to drink water not properly tested for safety, the officials said. Trust us, we're experts... http://enn.com/news/wire-stories/2003/01/01222003/ap_49393.asp - 1/22/2003 - ENN.com http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/134619756_labs22.html The Seattle Times: Nation World: Environmental labs caught faking data Private labs fake environmental tests, government finds Wednesday, January 22, 2003 By Associated Press WASHINGTON - Private laboratories are increasingly being caught falsifying test results for water supplies, petroleum products, underground tanks, and soil, hampering the government's ability to ensure Americans are protected by environmental laws, investigators say. The fraud has caused millions of people to fill their cars with substandard gasoline that may have violated clean air standards, or to drink water not properly tested for safety, the officials said. In addition, officials making decisions at hazardous waste cleanup sites have relied on companies that fraudulently tested air, water and soil samples. In recent years, what has come to our attention is that outside [non-government] labs are oftentimes in bed with the people who hired them, and conspired to commit environmental crime, said David Uhlmann, chief of the Justice Department's environmental crimes section. The EPA's watchdog against fraud, Inspector General Nikki Tinsley, has called the rise of lab fraud a disturbing trend. If it was my drinking water I'd consider it very serious, she said, declining to identify locations affected by the ongoing investigation. Private laboratories test products that are regulated by anti-pollution laws, and the results allow companies to certify that they're meeting the requirements of environmental protection laws. In one instance three years ago, investigators discovered fraudulent test results by contract employees at the Environmental Protection Agency's lab in Chicago. The head of the laboratory was transferred and the contractor, Lockheed Martin, was suspended from performing tests. The Justice Department and Environmental Protection Agency have prosecuted dozens of employees and laboratories the past several years for fraudulent testing. Uhlmann, the Justice Department official, said the prosecutions have grown but statistics are not kept on lab fraud cases. The growing number of cases stretch from New England, where a chemist for municipal water made up test results, to Texas, where the government recently prosecuted the largest tester of underground fuel tanks. Officials said they aren't certain whether an increasing number of labs are falsifying tests, or whether more are simply being caught through more aggressive investigations and whistle-blowers. Tinsley said there were numerous reasons for lab misconduct: poor training, ineffective ethics programs, shrinking markets, and efforts to cut costs. In some cases, the labs duped the companies that submitted samples for testing. In other instances, the companies were part of a conspiracy with the labs, officials said. Sometimes the fraud included driveway tests, so-named because employees generate them on a computer in their own driveways, without ever visiting the facilities. Whatever the case, lab fraud hampers an environmental protection system that frequently relies on voluntary compliance by companies backed by test results, officials said. If we can't rely upon science with supporting lab results, then we don't know what's out there for the public to eat or drink or use, said J.P. Suarez, the EPA's assistant administrator for enforcement and compliance assurance. When people may not be getting harmed, they may be getting ripped off, using products that are not what they're paying for. And companies are paying for services they're not getting, he said. Among the recent examples: * Intertek Testing Services, of Richardson, Texas, was fined $9 million for falsifying results at its former laboratory in the Dallas suburb. The tests of air, soil, pesticides, nerve gas agents and other hazards were used to make decisions for severely polluted areas called Superfund sites, at Department of Defense facilities and other hazardous waste locations. * Terian Koester, owner of Quality Water Analysis Laboratories in Pittsburg, Kan., was sentenced to 18 months in prison for violating the Clean Water Act and mail fraud. He was accused of fraudulent analysis of waste water, drinking water and hazardous waste. * William McCarthy, a senior chemist for the Lawrence, Mass., drinking water filtration plant, pleaded guilty to violating the Safe Drinking Water Act. During the 1990s McCarthy, who supervised quality testing, admitted he fabricated drinking water quality results. The Lawrence filtration plant draws water from the
[biofuels-biz] Tax Credits Could Boost SUV Sales
http://ens-news.com/ens/jan2003/2003-01-21-09.asp Tax Credits Could Boost SUV Sales WASHINGTON, DC, January 21, 2003 (ENS) - A tax credit proposed by the Bush administration would allow small business owners to purchase large sport utility vehicles (SUVs) almost for free. One of the tax cuts included in a package proposed by President George W. Bush would increase from $25,000 to $75,000 the amount that business owners, including wealthy self employed doctors and lawyers, could claim as a tax write off if they buy a large SUV for their business use. The so called SUV loophole, first reported yesterday by The Detroit News, is part of a tax proposal that the administration says would help stimulate the economy by allowing a higher deduction for business equipment. The deduction was $17,500 in 1996, but was raised to $25,000 in 2003 under the Bush tax plan. This is a plan that says that if you are willing to take risk and invest more, that there's a benefit for doing so, Bush said when he announced his new tax initiative on January 9. It will have a positive effect throughout our entire economy. But environmental groups say the proposal could have a negative effect on the environment, encouraging small business owners to buy the largest SUVs available, rather than more fuel efficient, less polluting vehicles. The Internal Revenue Service defines any vehicle with a gross weight of 6,000 pounds or more as a truck, including large SUVs, and business owners can write off such trucks as necessary equipment. But they cannot write off as equipment vehicles that do not meet that weight requirement. A business can claim a deduction for the depreciation in value that a car experiences as soon as it is driven off the lot, but the maximum deduction is just $7,660 - far less than the proposed cap on business equipment. Even the tax credits offered for alternative fueled cars, which qualify for a $2,000 clean vehicle deduction, do not bring the incentives for buying cars up to the level of the proposed incentives for buying large SUVs. Leave it to the Bush administration to try to make an even more outrageous a taxpayer rip-off that benefits the rich, Daniel Becker, director of the global warming and energy program at the Sierra Club, told the Detroit News. I'm sure there will be a fight over this. Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel at WebConX http://webconx.green-trust.org/2000/biofuel/biofuel.htm List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Odors
Hi Doug Best Keith Most governments take a dim view on anyone not forking over their property in taxes heaped upon car fuels to support all manner of non-transportation infrastructure expenditures. It would be interesting to work out how much Dino juice is necessary 'blanket' the FC smell. Or carry a ready supply of (hot) FC for emergency use? Good evening officer, would you care for a snack? :-) What was the story of the Aussie that was supposedly 'caught' regards Doug This was posted on the vegoil list on October 10: Hi Guys: I briefly heard on the BBC this morning that in Australia people are being ticketed for running diesels on veggie oil and thus not paying a road tax on fuel. Then someone else told me they heard about this in San Francisco, California (which I can't find confirmation of). Anyone know more about this? Lori Could be Lori misheard it, may have been a report on the Frying squad busts in Wales. Regards Keith Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [biofuel] Homemade inverters.
Most newer inverters are PWM sine wave output. Modern MOSFET designs improve efficiency incredibly over less efficient transistor designs. A 500W inverter wasting 20% is quite exaggerated, I have seen actual values from 90-97% A lot of people don't take into account the losses associated with running low-voltage high-current power through a conductor. A 12 volt appliance drawing 20 amps with a loss of .08 ohms in the conductor [size 12 AWG, 50 feet] would have a drop of 1.58 volts - assuming you could get that 20 amps of current [max allowed for 12 gauge wire], you would be wasting 30 watts in your wire. 24 volt systems are much better. Depending on your situation and if the wire already exists in your house, you may be better off using a high-efficiency inverter or inverters that switch on with an increasing load [to reduce idle losses] Larger-gauge wire would also be a lot more expensive for new installations. --- Martin Klingensmith infoarchive.net [archive.nnytech.net] nnytech.net -Original Message- From: John Mullan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 9:21 PM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [biofuel] Homemade inverters. I have been keeping my on the inverter subject for a while. As a 'reasonably' educated electronics technician (mostly digital) I feel I can comment on this. Most inverters are notorious energy wasters. Energy waste is proportional to energy drawn. For example (not accurate) a 100W inverter wastes 5% while a 500W inverter wastes 20%. Transformers can of course give you a better sine wave. However, 60hz is such a low frequency that you need a huge transformer. Solid state produces the noisier sine wave and depending on the wattage you require, can be very difficult to keep the output devices cool. Many of the new inverters have improved on efficiency, but are expensive. I bought a 1800W Tripp-Lite unit for $1200 CDN. And it doesn't take long for a pair of 500W quartz lamps to drain 2 deep-cycle marine batteries. It might be better to use a few smaller individual inverters for smaller loads and a couple of heavier duty ones for heavier loads. IE; use the size necessary to get the job done. If you used one huge inverter to power most of your house, it would have to be on constantly and waste a lot of power (they do consume energy even when the load is off). Better yet, you can get almost every electrical device you desire in a 12 or 24 volt version. Why not convert everything to low-voltage (24 being more efficient than 12). You will get a lot more time between recharges over using inverters. PS: I know I didn't really solve any problems here but hope to have imparted a little knowledge for Patrick. Cheers, Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Homemade inverters. --new type of Gel Sealed battery
Before we can store electricity in Hydrogen or Compressed air forms outside the lab! There is a new type of Lead-Vitriol gel-sealed battery! Replacing the liquid Sulfur Acid with Colloidal Vitriol Acid. This acid won't form lamination like sulfur acid which causes the cells to close out. Longer life(450 recharges than 300 for Lead Acid) and low self-discharge rate(2% per month vs. 1% per day). Charging and discharging to full capacity faster! Colloidal Acid has good heat dissipation, so no internal short circuit to interrupt power flow! Invented by German, improved in China. Chinese government is promoting this battery to replace Lead Acid Battery all over China. Oxide Battery may start this OEM battery soon! - Original Message - From: Martin Klingensmith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 11:30 PM Subject: RE: [biofuel] Homemade inverters. Most newer inverters are PWM sine wave output. Modern MOSFET designs improve efficiency incredibly over less efficient transistor designs. A 500W inverter wasting 20% is quite exaggerated, I have seen actual values from 90-97% A lot of people don't take into account the losses associated with running low-voltage high-current power through a conductor. A 12 volt appliance drawing 20 amps with a loss of .08 ohms in the conductor [size 12 AWG, 50 feet] would have a drop of 1.58 volts - assuming you could get that 20 amps of current [max allowed for 12 gauge wire], you would be wasting 30 watts in your wire. 24 volt systems are much better. Depending on your situation and if the wire already exists in your house, you may be better off using a high-efficiency inverter or inverters that switch on with an increasing load [to reduce idle losses] Larger-gauge wire would also be a lot more expensive for new installations. --- Martin Klingensmith infoarchive.net [archive.nnytech.net] nnytech.net -Original Message- From: John Mullan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 9:21 PM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [biofuel] Homemade inverters. I have been keeping my on the inverter subject for a while. As a 'reasonably' educated electronics technician (mostly digital) I feel I can comment on this. Most inverters are notorious energy wasters. Energy waste is proportional to energy drawn. For example (not accurate) a 100W inverter wastes 5% while a 500W inverter wastes 20%. Transformers can of course give you a better sine wave. However, 60hz is such a low frequency that you need a huge transformer. Solid state produces the noisier sine wave and depending on the wattage you require, can be very difficult to keep the output devices cool. Many of the new inverters have improved on efficiency, but are expensive. I bought a 1800W Tripp-Lite unit for $1200 CDN. And it doesn't take long for a pair of 500W quartz lamps to drain 2 deep-cycle marine batteries. It might be better to use a few smaller individual inverters for smaller loads and a couple of heavier duty ones for heavier loads. IE; use the size necessary to get the job done. If you used one huge inverter to power most of your house, it would have to be on constantly and waste a lot of power (they do consume energy even when the load is off). Better yet, you can get almost every electrical device you desire in a 12 or 24 volt version. Why not convert everything to low-voltage (24 being more efficient than 12). You will get a lot more time between recharges over using inverters. PS: I know I didn't really solve any problems here but hope to have imparted a little knowledge for Patrick. Cheers, Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Odors
What was the story of the Aussie that was supposedly 'caught' regards Doug This was posted on the vegoil list on October 10: Hi Guys: I briefly heard on the BBC this morning that in Australia people are being ticketed for running diesels on veggie oil and thus not paying a road tax on fuel. Then someone else told me they heard about this in San Francisco, California (which I can't find confirmation of). Anyone know more about this? Lori Could be Lori misheard it, may have been a report on the Frying squad busts in Wales. Regards Keith The mixup of 'Wales' the Aussie 'New South Wales may be it. Yes, that must be it - I didn't think of that. As far as I know there is a dispensation to use Bd in Australia (Have never heard of any excise problems) That's what I thought too, I think you've cleared this up now, thanks Doug. Best Keith Doug Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [biofuel] seperating glyc and FFA
Hi, some update on my 'problem' with separating glycerine. I've continued my tests, and come up with the following.
Re: [biofuel] Odors
What was the story of the Aussie that was supposedly 'caught' regards Doug This was posted on the vegoil list on October 10: Hi Guys: I briefly heard on the BBC this morning that in Australia people are being ticketed for running diesels on veggie oil and thus not paying a road tax on fuel. Then someone else told me they heard about this in San Francisco, California (which I can't find confirmation of). Anyone know more about this? Lori Could be Lori misheard it, may have been a report on the Frying squad busts in Wales. Regards Keith The mixup of 'Wales' the Aussie 'New South Wales may be it. As far as I know there is a dispensation to use Bd in Australia (Have never heard of any excise problems) Doug Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [biofuel] Homemade inverters.
OK. Yes, I did mention that newer inverters were better efficiency. The 'auto on' switching you mention goes with my theory that a few inverters would be a decent idea. The heavier gauge wire for the low-voltage application would depend of course on what your loads are. 24V equipment can be obtained that draw relatively low currents (albiet some will still draw a lot, ie; inductive). Another reason I offered 24V over 12V (P=IE of course). However, I am further educated now by your data on 90-97%. That is pretty good. John -Original Message- From: Martin Klingensmith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 2:31 AM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [biofuel] Homemade inverters. Most newer inverters are PWM sine wave output. Modern MOSFET designs improve efficiency incredibly over less efficient transistor designs. A 500W inverter wasting 20% is quite exaggerated, I have seen actual values from 90-97% A lot of people don't take into account the losses associated with running low-voltage high-current power through a conductor. A 12 volt appliance drawing 20 amps with a loss of .08 ohms in the conductor [size 12 AWG, 50 feet] would have a drop of 1.58 volts - assuming you could get that 20 amps of current [max allowed for 12 gauge wire], you would be wasting 30 watts in your wire. 24 volt systems are much better. Depending on your situation and if the wire already exists in your house, you may be better off using a high-efficiency inverter or inverters that switch on with an increasing load [to reduce idle losses] Larger-gauge wire would also be a lot more expensive for new installations. --- Martin Klingensmith infoarchive.net [archive.nnytech.net] nnytech.net -Original Message- From: John Mullan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 9:21 PM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [biofuel] Homemade inverters. I have been keeping my on the inverter subject for a while. As a 'reasonably' educated electronics technician (mostly digital) I feel I can comment on this. Most inverters are notorious energy wasters. Energy waste is proportional to energy drawn. For example (not accurate) a 100W inverter wastes 5% while a 500W inverter wastes 20%. Transformers can of course give you a better sine wave. However, 60hz is such a low frequency that you need a huge transformer. Solid state produces the noisier sine wave and depending on the wattage you require, can be very difficult to keep the output devices cool. Many of the new inverters have improved on efficiency, but are expensive. I bought a 1800W Tripp-Lite unit for $1200 CDN. And it doesn't take long for a pair of 500W quartz lamps to drain 2 deep-cycle marine batteries. It might be better to use a few smaller individual inverters for smaller loads and a couple of heavier duty ones for heavier loads. IE; use the size necessary to get the job done. If you used one huge inverter to power most of your house, it would have to be on constantly and waste a lot of power (they do consume energy even when the load is off). Better yet, you can get almost every electrical device you desire in a 12 or 24 volt version. Why not convert everything to low-voltage (24 being more efficient than 12). You will get a lot more time between recharges over using inverters. PS: I know I didn't really solve any problems here but hope to have imparted a little knowledge for Patrick. Cheers, Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ . [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Fwd: New fuel cell runs on sugar syrup---who needs Exxon anyway.
This whole setup kicks ass. I keep thinking of a picture of Christopher Lloyd in Back to the Future as Doc Brown, putting biomass into a Cuisinart to power his Time Travel Machine. But anyway, these news releases are showing some progress of using biomass in fuel cells. Excellent. I especially like this sugar syrup idea. I wonder if it runs on High Fructose Corn Syrup and not just the good stuff. Our bodies these days seem so often asked to imbibe the former and not the latter, I wonder if we couldn't leave the former for fuel cells and kick back at the table using the real maple syrup for pancakes. Subject: New fuel cell runs on sugar syrup---who needs Exxon anyway. Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 18:29:06 -0500 Fuel cell runs on sugar water (glucose, sucrose et. al.) As noted in [...] The significant advantage of this development is: (a.) Syrup is a liquid fuel, which inherently have a much higher energy content than impractical-to-compress hydrogen. Nor is energy density Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] OT: --new type of Gel Sealed battery
Well, let's keep an eye on this. The Chinese are some of the only ones who seem able or willing, these days, to stand against the rotten machinations of the worldwide petroleum industry against uninhibited electric vehicle battery production. Here in the States, we've seen The mysterious disappearance of some of the best batteries that were being used to make EV drag racers faster than some ICE drag racers. The mysterious 20 years it has taken to develop good NiMH battery packs for EVs Hybrids, where first the patent-holding company was controlled by GM and now by Chevron-Texaco, in both cases not only dragging their feet in an historic performance of corporate nonsense, but also using their patent rights seemingly to make certain that the batteries took their time coming on the world markets. To this day Matsushita and Toyota are being sued. To this day we do not seem to have the good batteries for EVs as available and competitive as we might like. The recent emergence of Lithium-based research and the (to me, not surprising) recent insinuation of 3M into the most high-profile effort. I see this as a possible effort to further stifle the speed with which such batteries will really be brought to the market. Virtually every EV fan I talk to recognizes China as an important player in alt-fuels and EVs. My own opinion is that I fear (as a fan of the American Economy staying on its feet) that the Chinese have a very valid point when they predict bad things for the future of the American Economy. I see a possible switch of alt-fuel-vehicle-production going on, to China, in the near future, if the American Unions or someone doesn't step up and remind Detroit Managers and others to be responsive to consumer demand. On Sat, 1 Feb 2003 02:11:30 -0800, you wrote: Before we can store electricity in Hydrogen or Compressed air forms outside the lab! There is a new type of Lead-Vitriol gel-sealed battery! Replacing the liquid Sulfur Acid with Colloidal Vitriol Acid. This acid won't form lamination like sulfur acid which causes the cells to close out. Longer life(450 recharges than 300 for Lead Acid) and low self-discharge rate(2% per month vs. 1% per day). Charging and discharging to full capacity faster! Colloidal Acid has good heat dissipation, so no internal short circuit to interrupt power flow! Invented by German, improved in China. Chinese government is promoting this battery to replace Lead Acid Battery all over China. Oxide Battery may start this OEM battery soon! Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] Columbia Space Shuttle Lost
-- NASA reports losing contact with space shuttle Columbia at 9 a.m. EST prior its scheduled landing at 9:16 a.m. Watch CNN or log on to http://CNN.com /AOL Keyword: CNN for the latest news. Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter Discussion Boards. Read about Sustainable Technology: http://www.green-trust.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] OT: Columbia Space Shuttle Lost
Not much weather above 6 ft. Shuttle was in unpowered glide mode. Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter Discussion Boards. Read about Sustainable Technology: http://www.green-trust.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: murdoch [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuels-biz@yahoogroups.com Cc: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 10:57 AM Subject: [biofuel] OT: Columbia Space Shuttle Lost I wonder if there are any weather-related lessons that can come from the two shuttle crashes (Jan. 28, 1986(?)) and now February 1, 2003). I think maybe with the first crash there were some on-the-launch-pad waiting issues that occurred in fueling, but I don't know. Ultimately, I don't mean to imply the causes were easy to pin down, just that I wonder how the time-of-year might affect any existing weaknesses or accidents-waiting-to-happen in the design, if they were there. On Sat, 1 Feb 2003 10:02:16 -0500, you wrote: -- NASA reports losing contact with space shuttle Columbia at 9 a.m. EST prior its scheduled landing at 9:16 a.m. Watch CNN or log on to http://CNN.com /AOL Keyword: CNN for the latest news. Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter Discussion Boards. Read about Sustainable Technology: http://www.green-trust.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel at WebConX http://webconx.green-trust.org/2000/biofuel/biofuel.htm List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] OT: Columbia Space Shuttle Lost
I wonder if there are any weather-related lessons that can come from the two shuttle crashes (Jan. 28, 1986(?)) and now February 1, 2003). I think maybe with the first crash there were some on-the-launch-pad waiting issues that occurred in fueling, but I don't know. Ultimately, I don't mean to imply the causes were easy to pin down, just that I wonder how the time-of-year might affect any existing weaknesses or accidents-waiting-to-happen in the design, if they were there. On Sat, 1 Feb 2003 10:02:16 -0500, you wrote: -- NASA reports losing contact with space shuttle Columbia at 9 a.m. EST prior its scheduled landing at 9:16 a.m. Watch CNN or log on to http://CNN.com /AOL Keyword: CNN for the latest news. Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter Discussion Boards. Read about Sustainable Technology: http://www.green-trust.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel at WebConX http://webconx.green-trust.org/2000/biofuel/biofuel.htm List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Biodiesel using acid catalyst
The glycerin is still there... :-) How deep is your top green layer? Perhaps the same depth as the volume of alcohol? If this is the case, the reaction you seek hasn't yet begun. Todd Swearingen - Original Message - From: kavitha palaniappan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 10:27 AM Subject: [biofuel] Biodiesel using acid catalyst Hello everyone, I'm Kavitha, back again into biofuels. As I had already mentioned a few months back, I had some problems in convincing my prof. at college to take up production of biodiesel as my project for M.Sc. in Environmental Science. At last, I have convinced him and I have also started producing biodiesel from Mahua oil using ethanol and acid catalyst. I have been following the procedures given in the various websites. The problem is: I don't get two layers of biodiesel and glycerol after the settling period. Instead, I get a bottom layer, which resembles biodiesel and a top layer of clear liquid (pale green in colour). I'm not sure whether the top layer is ethanol but i'm pretty sure about the bottom layer as its properties are similar to that of diesel. Now, where has the glycerol gone? Or, will I not get glycerol when I use acid catalyst instead of NaOH? What can I do with the top layer? I have also found out that the boiling point of the top layer is around 78 deg. Celsius. So, taking it to be ethanol, can I reuse it? (But, its colour stops me from re-using it!). I'm a bit confused. Can anyone help me? Kavitha. - Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] OT: (fwd) [fuelcellvehicles] In Japan: BALLARD's 92% Efficiency 1 kW Stationary fc Generator
If this is Natural Gas Powered, and it looks like it is, then it sure seems
impressive. Not a biofuel-powered-fuel-cell exactly, but along with the other
Japan stories I've been reading, one more piece of evidence they're really
moving on some of these projects. How hard is it to gear biomass processing
toward Methane, in particular? I don't know, but if a lot of methane can be
derived from biomass, then that could lead to use of these fuel cells with
biomass in addition to using a regular natural gas hookup? Contamination might
be an issue?
MM
On Thu, 30 Jan 2003 20:50:08 -0800 (PST), Bruce EVangel Parmenter
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
EVLN(BALLARD's 92% Efficiency 1 kW Stationary fc Generator)
[The Internet Electric Vehicle List News. For Public EV
informational purposes. Contact publication for reprint rights.]
--- {EVangel}
EBARA BALLARD Unveils 1 kW Stationary Fuel Cell Generator
with Total Efficiency of 92%
VANCOUVER, British Columbia--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Jan. 29,
2003-- Ballard Power Systems' (NASDAQ:BLDP)(TSX:BLD) and
EBARA Corporation's jointly owned company EBARA BALLARD
unveiled the first generation of its pre-commercial 1kW
stationary combined heat and power proton exchange membrane
(PEM) fuel cell generator for the Japanese residential
market, building upon the second generation engineering
prototype fuel cell generator unveiled in January of 2002.
The system is manufactured by EBARA BALLARD and comprises a
Ballard (R) fuel cell, EBARA Corporation's newly developed
pumps and blowers, a reformer based on technology licenced
from Tokyo Gas, and a hot water storage tank.
We have set the standard for fuel cell performance in Japan
with our 1 kW combined heat and power fuel cell generator
achieving a total system efficiency (heat and electricity)
of 92 percent (LHV) of which 34 percent is the AC electrical
efficiency. Also of significance is the high partial load
efficiency of our system. At 50 percent rated load the total
system efficiency is 78 percent (LHV) with AC electrical
efficiency of 31 percent, said Masakatsu Ohya, EBARA
BALLARD's President. Each successive prototype generation
has demonstrated improved efficiency and reduced volume,
bringing this environmentally friendly power generator
closer to its planned introduction, in limited volumes, to
the Japanese residential market as a distributed power
source. We are still on track for a marketing launch in
late-2004.
The progress shown by each successive prototype generation
in increased efficiency and reduced volume is a testament to
Ballard's world class fuel cell expertise and the close
relationship we have with EBARA BALLARD, said John Harris,
Ballard's Managing Director, Asia Pacific. Ballard's
advances in fuel cell technology and EBARA BALLARD's
improvements in the balance of plant are creating a system
that leads the industry in efficiency, performance and size.
Our testing and development program will continue to focus
on enhancing product lifetime and reducing costs to enable
us to meet the market requirements for the commercial
product.
The pre-commercial power plant will undergo extensive
testing both in EBARA BALLARD's facility and in the field
allowing further improvement of this product prior to the
commercial launch of the initial commercial version. EBARA
BALLARD is based in Tokyo, Japan and its mandate is to
develop, manufacture and sell, fuel cell power generators
incorporating the Ballard (R) fuel cell to customers in
Japan.
EBARA Corporation is globally recognized as a major
developer, manufacturer and distributor of fluid machinery
and systems, precision machinery and environmental
engineering systems and as a leader in zero-emission energy
technology.
Ballard Power Systems is recognized as the world leader in
developing, manufacturing and marketing zero-emission proton
exchange membrane (PEM) fuel cells. Ballard is
commercializing fuel cell engines for transportation
applications and fuel cell systems for portable and
stationary products. Ballard is also commercializing
electric drives for fuel cell and other electric vehicles,
power conversion products, natural gas and hydrogen
generator sets and is a Tier 1 automotive supplier of
friction materials for power train components. Ballard's
proprietary technology is enabling automobile, bus,
electrical equipment, portable power and stationary product
manufacturers to develop environmentally clean products for
sale. Ballard is partnering with strong, world-leading
companies, including DaimlerChrysler, Ford, EBARA, ALSTOM
and FirstEnergy, to commercialize Ballard (R) fuel cells.
Ballard has supplied fuel cells to Honda, Nissan,
Volkswagen, Yamaha, Cinergy and Coleman Powermate, among
others.
This release contains forward-looking statements [...]
Ballard, the Ballard logo and Power to Change the World are
registered trademarks of Ballard Power Systems Inc.
CONTACT: Ballard Power Systems Inc. Michael Rosenberg,
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Re: [biofuel] Biodiesel using acid catalyst
Hello everyone, I'm Kavitha, back again into biofuels. As I had already mentioned a few months back, I had some problems in convincing my prof. at college to take up production of biodiesel as my project for M.Sc. in Environmental Science. At last, I have convinced him and I have also started producing biodiesel from Mahua oil using ethanol and acid catalyst. I have been following the procedures given in the various websites. The problem is: I don't get two layers of biodiesel and glycerol after the settling period. Instead, I get a bottom layer, which resembles biodiesel and a top layer of clear liquid (pale green in colour). I'm not sure whether the top layer is ethanol but i'm pretty sure about the bottom layer as its properties are similar to that of diesel. Now, where has the glycerol gone? Or, will I not get glycerol when I use acid catalyst instead of NaOH? What can I do with the top layer? I have also found out that the boiling point of the top layer is around 78 deg. Celsius. So, taking it to be ethanol, can I reuse it? (But, its colour stops me from re-using it!). I'm a bit confused. Can anyone help me? Kavitha. Hello Kavitha Glad you persuaded the prof. You did a two-stage acid-base process? Using ethanol? Hm. Anyway, if you didn't get glycerol separation then you didn't get biodiesel. That's the problem with using ethanol, unless you really know what you're doing it won't separate - much more difficult than with methanol. I suggest you start again maybe. Start here: Where do I start? http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_make.html#start Use a standard type of oil - I don't know what Mahua oil is. When you have some practice with single-stage base processing of virgin oil, then move on to more complicated things, if you wish, such as acid-base methods. I don't think we know too much about using the acid-base method with ethanol instead of methanol. If you want to use ethanol, then get a bit of expertise first using methanol, single-stage base, then go here: Ethyl esters -- making ethanol biodiesel http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_link.html#ethylester Best wishes Keith Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] OT: (fwd) [fuelcellvehicles] In Japan: BALLARD's 92% Efficiency 1 kW Stationary fc Generator
If it is nat gas powered, this is cool. Biogas and nat gas are extremely
similar in makeup. throw your carbon/nitrogen digestibles in Mr. Fusion and
power a fuel cell for 45 days or so.
http://webconx.green-trust.org/methane.htm
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Subject: [biofuel] OT: (fwd) [fuelcellvehicles] In Japan: BALLARD's 92%
Efficiency 1 kW Stationary fc Generator
If this is Natural Gas Powered, and it looks like it is, then it sure
seems
impressive. Not a biofuel-powered-fuel-cell exactly, but along with the
other
Japan stories I've been reading, one more piece of evidence they're really
moving on some of these projects. How hard is it to gear biomass
processing
toward Methane, in particular? I don't know, but if a lot of methane can
be
derived from biomass, then that could lead to use of these fuel cells with
biomass in addition to using a regular natural gas hookup? Contamination
might
be an issue?
MM
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EBARA BALLARD Unveils 1 kW Stationary Fuel Cell Generator
with Total Efficiency of 92%
VANCOUVER, British Columbia--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Jan. 29,
2003-- Ballard Power Systems' (NASDAQ:BLDP)(TSX:BLD) and
EBARA Corporation's jointly owned company EBARA BALLARD
unveiled the first generation of its pre-commercial 1kW
stationary combined heat and power proton exchange membrane
(PEM) fuel cell generator for the Japanese residential
market, building upon the second generation engineering
prototype fuel cell generator unveiled in January of 2002.
The system is manufactured by EBARA BALLARD and comprises a
Ballard (R) fuel cell, EBARA Corporation's newly developed
pumps and blowers, a reformer based on technology licenced
from Tokyo Gas, and a hot water storage tank.
We have set the standard for fuel cell performance in Japan
with our 1 kW combined heat and power fuel cell generator
achieving a total system efficiency (heat and electricity)
of 92 percent (LHV) of which 34 percent is the AC electrical
efficiency. Also of significance is the high partial load
efficiency of our system. At 50 percent rated load the total
system efficiency is 78 percent (LHV) with AC electrical
efficiency of 31 percent, said Masakatsu Ohya, EBARA
BALLARD's President. Each successive prototype generation
has demonstrated improved efficiency and reduced volume,
bringing this environmentally friendly power generator
closer to its planned introduction, in limited volumes, to
the Japanese residential market as a distributed power
source. We are still on track for a marketing launch in
late-2004.
The progress shown by each successive prototype generation
in increased efficiency and reduced volume is a testament to
Ballard's world class fuel cell expertise and the close
relationship we have with EBARA BALLARD, said John Harris,
Ballard's Managing Director, Asia Pacific. Ballard's
advances in fuel cell technology and EBARA BALLARD's
improvements in the balance of plant are creating a system
that leads the industry in efficiency, performance and size.
Our testing and development program will continue to focus
on enhancing product lifetime and reducing costs to enable
us to meet the market requirements for the commercial
product.
The pre-commercial power plant will undergo extensive
testing both in EBARA BALLARD's facility and in the field
allowing further improvement of this product prior to the
commercial launch of the initial commercial version. EBARA
BALLARD is based in Tokyo, Japan and its mandate is to
develop, manufacture and sell, fuel cell power generators
incorporating the Ballard (R) fuel cell to customers in
Japan.
EBARA Corporation is globally recognized as a major
developer, manufacturer and distributor of fluid machinery
and systems, precision machinery and environmental
engineering systems and as a leader in zero-emission energy
technology.
Ballard Power Systems is recognized as the world leader in
developing, manufacturing and marketing zero-emission proton
exchange membrane (PEM) fuel cells. Ballard is
commercializing fuel cell engines for transportation
applications and fuel cell systems for portable and
stationary products. Ballard is also commercializing
electric drives for fuel cell and other electric vehicles,
power conversion products, natural gas and hydrogen
generator sets and is a Tier 1 automotive supplier of
friction materials for
[biofuel] FW: MSNBC News Link: Tight security for shuttle landing
MSNBC News Link: Tight security for shuttle landing ** Tight security for shuttle landing ** Space shuttle Columbia, carrying the first Israeli astronaut, aimed for a return to Earth on Saturday morning after more than two weeks of scientific research in orbit. http://www.msnbc.com/modules/exports/ct_email.asp?/news/857733.asp Link now just takes you to story shuttle lost. Wonder what the first one was. Kirk Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] FW: [h2view] Solar Hydrogen Chronicles book
Solar Hydrogen Chronicles book Link: http://www.goodideacreative.com/shc.html Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] OT: Biomass for building materials
http://earthblock.com/TGAssociates/products.htm Dunno anything about it, but I like the idea of new ideas in building materials, particularly if they lead to lower insurance, such as if they're fire-resistant or suffer less damage in certain types of natural disasters. Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] OT: Biomass for building materials
looks like a scheme to me. no info on the material, can only buy property and house from them? I'm partial to rammed earth. Something you can do yourself. http://webconx.green-trust.org/shelter.htm Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter Discussion Boards. Read about Sustainable Technology: http://www.green-trust.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: murdoch [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Cc: biofuels-biz@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 2:07 PM Subject: [biofuel] OT: Biomass for building materials http://earthblock.com/TGAssociates/products.htm Dunno anything about it, but I like the idea of new ideas in building materials, particularly if they lead to lower insurance, such as if they're fire-resistant or suffer less damage in certain types of natural disasters. Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [biofuel] Biodiesel using acid catalyst
Hello everyone, I'm Kavitha, back again into biofuels. As I had already mentioned a few months back, I had some problems in convincing my prof. at college to take up production of biodiesel as my project for M.Sc. in Environmental Science. At last, I have convinced him and I have also started producing biodiesel from Mahua oil using ethanol and acid catalyst. I have been following the procedures given in the various websites. The problem is: I don't get two layers of biodiesel and glycerol after the settling period. Instead, I get a bottom layer, which resembles biodiesel and a top layer of clear liquid (pale green in colour). I'm not sure whether the top layer is ethanol but i'm pretty sure about the bottom layer as its properties are similar to that of diesel. Now, where has the glycerol gone? Or, will I not get glycerol when I use acid catalyst instead of NaOH? What can I do with the top layer? I have also found out that the boiling point of the top layer is around 78 deg. Celsius. So, taking it to be ethanol, can I reuse it? (But, its colour stops me from re-using it!). I'm a bit confused. Can anyone help me? Kavitha. Hi Kavitha,
[biofuel] OT: (fwd) [fuelcellvehicles] In Japan: BALLARD's 92% Efficiency 1 kW Stationary fc Generator
On Sat, 1 Feb 2003 12:13:13 -0500, you wrote: If it is nat gas powered, this is cool. Biogas and nat gas are extremely similar in makeup. throw your carbon/nitrogen digestibles in Mr. Fusion and power a fuel cell for 45 days or so. http://webconx.green-trust.org/methane.htm Bio-gas usually contains about 60 to 70 percent methane, 30 to 40 percent carbon dioxide, and other gases. One of the reasons I asked about impurities is that I don't know how tolerant these fuel cell designs are for other materials getting through are. So, I don't know if the CO2 and other gases would be an issue. But, that aside, we seem to really be making some connections here, biomass-to-biogases-to-fuelcell-to-convenient-home-electricity-production, biomass-to-useable liquid-relatively-energy-dense-and-very-stable fuels for fuel cells, etc. I keep wondering if the political and other support for pure H2, while it seems to have some scientific rationale and-or even some socio-technological-economic rationale (standardizing to something that everyone can deal with, as we've done with some HC's) isn't partly based on an over-simple-mindedness a literal overemphasis on the simple because it's relatively simple. Why not ethanol as a carrier? Why not methanol? Why not whatever? The best review I've read of a car running a fuel cell was a Mercedes that was running Methanol. It sounded honest-to-goodness doable and seemed to have good performance. I'm not sure what the catch was (I'm sure there had to be some). Despite the supposed increased support from the present American Government, maybe fuel cells do have a future in the near-term. That is, I do not take a new Government program as necessarily a good sign for a technology, particuularly when it is so eminently clear that this Administration, while its priorities often run toward what it thinks is good for its country, has a high priority of bias toward the Petroleum industry, and has taken some policy decisions which have hindered, rather than helped, the effort to get competition and better cars and fuels into the auto and fuels industries. We are seeing some things come together. But Fuel cell companies have been out there for a long time. What's taking so long? Why the need for massive government funding right now, and how will this help the U.S. get on a better footing with energy sourcing? I don't know a lot of the answers to these questions, but surely part of the problem is the difficulties presented by the choice of Hydrogen as fuel. To be sure, the technology itself seems to choose H2, but that doesn't mean that's the only reason for this focus on H2. There are so many possibilities for energy conversion and storage and use that have emerged over the last twenty years or more, that to me it's not a question of knowing the right one, but of simply pointing out that we don't seem to have a non-broken market in many areas, such as energy for transportation. The markets seem to be a bit frozen, not really reflecting a market-place free-for-all competition that would help us see the pros and cons of these technologies. JMHO. Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] OT: (fwd) [fuelcellvehicles] In Japan: BALLARD's 92% Efficiency 1 kW Stationary fc Generator
filters can remove the co2 and hydrogen sulfide gases, leaving almost pure methane. Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter Discussion Boards. Read about Sustainable Technology: http://www.green-trust.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: murdoch [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 5:10 PM Subject: [biofuel] OT: (fwd) [fuelcellvehicles] In Japan: BALLARD's 92% Efficiency 1 kW Stationary fc Generator On Sat, 1 Feb 2003 12:13:13 -0500, you wrote: If it is nat gas powered, this is cool. Biogas and nat gas are extremely similar in makeup. throw your carbon/nitrogen digestibles in Mr. Fusion and power a fuel cell for 45 days or so. http://webconx.green-trust.org/methane.htm Bio-gas usually contains about 60 to 70 percent methane, 30 to 40 percent carbon dioxide, and other gases. One of the reasons I asked about impurities is that I don't know how tolerant these fuel cell designs are for other materials getting through are. So, I don't know if the CO2 and other gases would be an issue. But, that aside, we seem to really be making some connections here, biomass-to-biogases-to-fuelcell-to-convenient-home-electricity-production, biomass-to-useable liquid-relatively-energy-dense-and-very-stable fuels for fuel cells, etc. I keep wondering if the political and other support for pure H2, while it seems to have some scientific rationale and-or even some socio-technological-economic rationale (standardizing to something that everyone can deal with, as we've done with some HC's) isn't partly based on an over-simple-mindedness a literal overemphasis on the simple because it's relatively simple. Why not ethanol as a carrier? Why not methanol? Why not whatever? The best review I've read of a car running a fuel cell was a Mercedes that was running Methanol. It sounded honest-to-goodness doable and seemed to have good performance. I'm not sure what the catch was (I'm sure there had to be some). Despite the supposed increased support from the present American Government, maybe fuel cells do have a future in the near-term. That is, I do not take a new Government program as necessarily a good sign for a technology, particuularly when it is so eminently clear that this Administration, while its priorities often run toward what it thinks is good for its country, has a high priority of bias toward the Petroleum industry, and has taken some policy decisions which have hindered, rather than helped, the effort to get competition and better cars and fuels into the auto and fuels industries. We are seeing some things come together. But Fuel cell companies have been out there for a long time. What's taking so long? Why the need for massive government funding right now, and how will this help the U.S. get on a better footing with energy sourcing? I don't know a lot of the answers to these questions, but surely part of the problem is the difficulties presented by the choice of Hydrogen as fuel. To be sure, the technology itself seems to choose H2, but that doesn't mean that's the only reason for this focus on H2. There are so many possibilities for energy conversion and storage and use that have emerged over the last twenty years or more, that to me it's not a question of knowing the right one, but of simply pointing out that we don't seem to have a non-broken market in many areas, such as energy for transportation. The markets seem to be a bit frozen, not really reflecting a market-place free-for-all competition that would help us see the pros and cons of these technologies. JMHO. Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] Space shuttle
This is a very very sad day. Hakan ** If you want to take a look on a project that is very close to my heart, go to: http://energysavingnow.com/ http://hakan.vitools.net/ My .Net Card http://hakan.vitools.org/ About me http://vitools.com/ My webmaster site ** A truth's initial commotion is directly proportional to how deeply the lie was believed. It wasn't the world being round that agitated people, but that the world wasn't flat. When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic. -- Dresden James No flag is large enough to cover the shame of killing innocent people -- Howard Zinn Nobody grows old merely by living a number of years. We grow old by deserting our ideals. Years may wrinkle the skin, but to give up enthusiasm wrinkles the soul. - Unknown Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] Intro and question
Hi Y'all, I have been monitoring this list for awhile and although I am totally excited about biofule I must admit that I have never actually done it. I did try to start a car charing organization in Yolo Co CA a few years ago but couldn't get the needed resourses togethernamely people power. Here is my questionI am an auctioneer and work at car auctions for the $$$ (I specialize in benefit auctions). Being such I have friends that are dealers that are happy to buy wholesale for me. Occaionally I see a nice TDI or some other diesel product role by. I often think to my self and say self you should have X buy that for you and then post it on the list here. Would y'all consider that SPAM? Best, Jack Young www.jacksauctions.com 530.219.7900 (voice) 530.795.5536 (fax) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [biofuel] OT: (fwd) [fuelcellvehicles] In Japan: BALLARD's 92% Efficiency 1 kW Stationary fc Generator
I don't think the obstacle is technology. The products in our world are profit driven. Engineers don't decide what we will have. They may tell costs versus products but the path taken is decided by others. The current implementation of electricity is testament to that. What will speak louder than anything is if customers escape the monopoly. If you can persuade others to incorporate renewable energy, to use more efficient methods -- that speaks the only language corporate hears -- $$$. Kirk -Original Message- From: murdoch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 3:10 PM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [biofuel] OT: (fwd) [fuelcellvehicles] In Japan: BALLARD's 92% Efficiency 1 kW Stationary fc Generator On Sat, 1 Feb 2003 12:13:13 -0500, you wrote: If it is nat gas powered, this is cool. Biogas and nat gas are extremely similar in makeup. throw your carbon/nitrogen digestibles in Mr. Fusion and power a fuel cell for 45 days or so. http://webconx.green-trust.org/methane.htm Bio-gas usually contains about 60 to 70 percent methane, 30 to 40 percent carbon dioxide, and other gases. One of the reasons I asked about impurities is that I don't know how tolerant these fuel cell designs are for other materials getting through are. So, I don't know if the CO2 and other gases would be an issue. But, that aside, we seem to really be making some connections here, biomass-to-biogases-to-fuelcell-to-convenient-home-electricity-production, biomass-to-useable liquid-relatively-energy-dense-and-very-stable fuels for fuel cells, etc. I keep wondering if the political and other support for pure H2, while it seems to have some scientific rationale and-or even some socio-technological-economic rationale (standardizing to something that everyone can deal with, as we've done with some HC's) isn't partly based on an over-simple-mindedness a literal overemphasis on the simple because it's relatively simple. Why not ethanol as a carrier? Why not methanol? Why not whatever? The best review I've read of a car running a fuel cell was a Mercedes that was running Methanol. It sounded honest-to-goodness doable and seemed to have good performance. I'm not sure what the catch was (I'm sure there had to be some). Despite the supposed increased support from the present American Government, maybe fuel cells do have a future in the near-term. That is, I do not take a new Government program as necessarily a good sign for a technology, particuularly when it is so eminently clear that this Administration, while its priorities often run toward what it thinks is good for its country, has a high priority of bias toward the Petroleum industry, and has taken some policy decisions which have hindered, rather than helped, the effort to get competition and better cars and fuels into the auto and fuels industries. We are seeing some things come together. But Fuel cell companies have been out there for a long time. What's taking so long? Why the need for massive government funding right now, and how will this help the U.S. get on a better footing with energy sourcing? I don't know a lot of the answers to these questions, but surely part of the problem is the difficulties presented by the choice of Hydrogen as fuel. To be sure, the technology itself seems to choose H2, but that doesn't mean that's the only reason for this focus on H2. There are so many possibilities for energy conversion and storage and use that have emerged over the last twenty years or more, that to me it's not a question of knowing the right one, but of simply pointing out that we don't seem to have a non-broken market in many areas, such as energy for transportation. The markets seem to be a bit frozen, not really reflecting a market-place free-for-all competition that would help us see the pros and cons of these technologies. JMHO. Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.449 / Virus Database: 251 - Release Date: 1/27/2003 Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] Parking ticket...
PARKING TICKET Ê I went to the store the other day, and I was in there for only about 5 minutes.Ê When I came out there was a motorcycle cop writing a parking ticket. So I went up to him and said, Come on, buddy, how about giving a guy aÊ break? He ignored me and continued writing the ticket. Ê So I called him a pencil-necked Nazi. He glared at me and started writing another ticket for worn tires! So I called him a piece of horse doodoo. Ê He finished the second ticket and put it on the windshield with the first.Ê Then he started writing a third ticket! Ê This went on for about 20 minutes... the more I Ê abused him, the more tickets he wrote. Ê I didn't care..it was John Tillman's car.. Ê My truck was parked around the corner. Ê I try to have a little fun each day. Ê It's important. Glenn [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] Is there a pattern?? Was: Democracy
In my personal opinion, ANY groundbreaking decision which can spell the difference between a normal community of individuals being: A) Happily self-sufficient / self-reliant or: B) Slaving away for peanuts ... while the spoils generated by the above individuals get sucked away and enjoyed in HUGE quantities by ONE BIG slave-driver sitting on his big fat a** sipping margaritas . ANY issue like that ... especially with so much at stake will, by default, ALWAYS be extremely political I think. Curtis Get your free newsletter at http://www.ezinfocenter.com/3122155/NL - Original Message - From: Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Oh but biofuel is extremely political, as are fossil fuels and newks. Make no mistake about it. As have been solar, wind and geothermal for decades. Just a matter of which side of the fence you choose to build your house on and who's ring finger one is willing to kiss...or not. Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] Not Building Green Is Called a Matter of Economics
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/01/15/business/15BRIC.html?tntemail0=page wanted=printposition=top January 15, 2003 Not Building Green Is Called a Matter of Economics By MICHAEL BRICK ROCKVILLE, Md., Jan. 8 - The tools for constructing environmentally conscious, energy-efficient office buildings have existed for decades, but commercial developers have not adopted the principles of what is commonly called green or sustainable building because a compelling case demonstrating the economic rewards has not been made, according to specialists in real estate, finance, design, construction and environmental health and safety. This is a concept that has sputtered along for 20 or 30 years, said Daniel R. Tishman, executive vice president of Tishman Realty Corporation. It's an economic thing. It is a phenomenon with parallels to the popularity of sport utility vehicles, except that buildings are responsible for more than 36 percent of the country's energy consumption, and transportation only 27 percent, according to the Energy Information Administration of the Department of Energy. A movement is under way to promote green development as economically compelling, complete with a trade organization that sets standards and awards certifications to buildings under the Leadership in Energy and Environmental Design program administered by the private U.S. Green Building Council. This amounts to the early stages of an effort to create a marketable brand of buildings, one that addresses environmental issues outside the scope of the government's Energy Star program. That program, administered by the Environmental Protection Agency, awards certification to voluntarily participating buildings that demonstrate energy efficiency. The Green Building Council's program offers escalating levels of certification, using a point system to measure a broader palette of green. Developers can win points by complying with more difficult, costly and unusual standards like replacing impervious surfaces with vegetative cover and treating waste water at the site. Governmental entities are also pressing for green building. In 2001, the federal General Services Administration joined the Green Building Council. In 2000, New York State approved a tax credit for developments that comply with requirements for energy use, materials selection, indoor air quality, waste disposal and water use. It was the first state to do so, and others, including Maryland, have followed. Still, of the 1.6 billion square feet of nonresidential construction projects started last year, only 2.3 percent applied for certification from the Green Building Council, according to an analysis by Robert K. Watson, director of the International Energy Project at the Natural Resources Defense Council. Of government buildings, 16.5 percent applied. In commercial projects, where by far the most construction was started, only 1.07 percent applied for certification. A factor contributing to the low participation rate is that the program has existed only since March 2000, and so far, most types of projects have needed to apply in the early, conceptual phases, though they do not achieve certification until much later. We need to make the business case, said Kenneth W. Hubbard, a partner in the Hines Company. It has not caught on. There are notable exceptions, mostly experienced developers who hold their properties for many years and who have seen a comparable long-term payoff from the use of distinctive, high-quality architecture. A prominent example in New York is the Durst Organization, developer of 4 Times Square. Elsewhere in the country, the Hines Company has taken a pioneering role, with environmentally sophisticated office buildings in Boston, Seattle, Houston, Detroit and Atlanta. Hines estimates that it has spent 45 cents to $1.30 a square foot, varying by building, above conventional construction costs to make mechanical and electrical systems in its buildings exceed building codes. To date, Mr. Hubbard said, the financial returns are unproven. Here in Rockville, a private developer called the Tower Companies has built a squat 10-story oval of dark reflective glass and metallic panels, split on the thin ends by angular wedges that look like supports for a lunar module. The 263,000-square-foot Tower Building cost $62 million and sits on 12 acres. It opened at the end of 2001 and is now 85 percent leased. The cost breaks down to $235 a square foot, and of that, $124 a square foot was spent on construction, $2 more than conventional construction by the developer's estimate. The windows are made of double-paned, spectrally selective glass that reduces the transfer of heat. Carpets and ceiling tiles are made of recycled and recyclable materials. They are manufactured to reduce the emission of volatile organic compounds, the airborne chemicals familiar to most people for giving off the new car smell.
[biofuel] Brazil's green chief targets Petrobras polluter
http://www.planetark.org/dailynewsstory.cfm/newsid/19496/story.htm INTERVIEW - Brazil's green chief targets Petrobras polluter Mail this story to a friend | Printer friendly version BRAZIL: January 21, 2003 BRASILIA - Brazil's new Environment Minister Marina Silva says she wants to crack down on the country's record holder for environmental fines, state-owned oil giant Petrobras. In the past three years, Petrobras (PETR4.SA) (PBR.N) was responsible for a huge oil spill in Rio de Janeiro's Guanabara Bay and was also fined 168 million reais ($50 million) for polluting two rivers in the southern state of Parana. In 2000, its largest offshore rig sank following explosions that killed 11 crew members. One step being seriously considered is the participation of the (Ministry) of Environment on Petrobras' administrative council, Marina Silva, 44, told Reuters in an interview this week. Marina Silva said that both Petrobras President Jose Eduardo Dutra and Energy Minister Dilma Roussef support the idea. At Petrobras' headquarters in Rio de Janeiro, a spokesman noted that members of its council were nominated by the government. Declining to comment directly on Marina Silva's comments, the spokesman said, Petrobras is investing in projects to protect the environment. Marina Silva, a former rubber tapper, is one of the most popular members of leftist President Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva's government that took control of Latin America's largest country at the start of the month. From a poor family and illiterate until 16, Marina Silva will now try to make powerful Petrobras, the country's sole crude producer, toe the green line. Brazil is Latin America's No.3 oil producer, though still a net crude importer. PETROBRAS PIPELINE REVIEW A $340 million Petrobras project to build a gas pipeline through the Amazon forest from Urucu to Porto Velho may be blocked even though it was provisionally approved last year by Brazil's environmental agency, Ibama. We are carrying out a survey following a complaint by local people, said Marina Silva, adding that other projects by various large companies were also being reviewed. Marina Silva said she plans to expand the Amazon Solidarity Program involving traditional Indian communities by raising its budget fivefold to 21 million reais ($6.2 million). We want to continue such programs involving local people - riverside dwellers, rubber tappers, Indians, coconut gatherers, fishermen - and fight hunger in the Amazon region, Marina Silva said. President Lula has made the elimination of hunger a priority in a country where some 50 million people, or nearly one third of the population, can't afford three meals a day. Marina Silva also wanted to include loggers - traditional targets of environmentalists - in protecting the countryside. She said that most of them didn't break environmental laws deliberately. There's a lack of financial resources, technical support and in some cases laxity by control agencies which encourages illegality, she said. Environmental campaigners welcomed Silva's pledge to tighten controls on polluters. A seat on the board will help in planning positive changes in Petrobras, said Roberto Smeraldi, director of Friends of the Earth in Sao Paulo. But there's a lot to change and not just in Petrobras. Greenpeace said it had great expectations. When Marina Silva was a senator she showed she was a skilled negotiator, strategically involving many ministries and agencies. The environment will no longer be a side issue without funding, said Marcelo Furtado, Greenpeace's Latin American industrial pollution coordinator. Story by Frances Jones REUTERS NEWS SERVICE Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] Private labs fake environmental tests, government finds
The fraud has caused millions of people to fill their cars with substandard gasoline that may have violated clean air standards, or to drink water not properly tested for safety, the officials said. Trust us, we're experts... http://enn.com/news/wire-stories/2003/01/01222003/ap_49393.asp - 1/22/2003 - ENN.com http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/134619756_labs22.html The Seattle Times: Nation World: Environmental labs caught faking data Private labs fake environmental tests, government finds Wednesday, January 22, 2003 By Associated Press WASHINGTON - Private laboratories are increasingly being caught falsifying test results for water supplies, petroleum products, underground tanks, and soil, hampering the government's ability to ensure Americans are protected by environmental laws, investigators say. The fraud has caused millions of people to fill their cars with substandard gasoline that may have violated clean air standards, or to drink water not properly tested for safety, the officials said. In addition, officials making decisions at hazardous waste cleanup sites have relied on companies that fraudulently tested air, water and soil samples. In recent years, what has come to our attention is that outside [non-government] labs are oftentimes in bed with the people who hired them, and conspired to commit environmental crime, said David Uhlmann, chief of the Justice Department's environmental crimes section. The EPA's watchdog against fraud, Inspector General Nikki Tinsley, has called the rise of lab fraud a disturbing trend. If it was my drinking water I'd consider it very serious, she said, declining to identify locations affected by the ongoing investigation. Private laboratories test products that are regulated by anti-pollution laws, and the results allow companies to certify that they're meeting the requirements of environmental protection laws. In one instance three years ago, investigators discovered fraudulent test results by contract employees at the Environmental Protection Agency's lab in Chicago. The head of the laboratory was transferred and the contractor, Lockheed Martin, was suspended from performing tests. The Justice Department and Environmental Protection Agency have prosecuted dozens of employees and laboratories the past several years for fraudulent testing. Uhlmann, the Justice Department official, said the prosecutions have grown but statistics are not kept on lab fraud cases. The growing number of cases stretch from New England, where a chemist for municipal water made up test results, to Texas, where the government recently prosecuted the largest tester of underground fuel tanks. Officials said they aren't certain whether an increasing number of labs are falsifying tests, or whether more are simply being caught through more aggressive investigations and whistle-blowers. Tinsley said there were numerous reasons for lab misconduct: poor training, ineffective ethics programs, shrinking markets, and efforts to cut costs. In some cases, the labs duped the companies that submitted samples for testing. In other instances, the companies were part of a conspiracy with the labs, officials said. Sometimes the fraud included driveway tests, so-named because employees generate them on a computer in their own driveways, without ever visiting the facilities. Whatever the case, lab fraud hampers an environmental protection system that frequently relies on voluntary compliance by companies backed by test results, officials said. If we can't rely upon science with supporting lab results, then we don't know what's out there for the public to eat or drink or use, said J.P. Suarez, the EPA's assistant administrator for enforcement and compliance assurance. When people may not be getting harmed, they may be getting ripped off, using products that are not what they're paying for. And companies are paying for services they're not getting, he said. Among the recent examples: * Intertek Testing Services, of Richardson, Texas, was fined $9 million for falsifying results at its former laboratory in the Dallas suburb. The tests of air, soil, pesticides, nerve gas agents and other hazards were used to make decisions for severely polluted areas called Superfund sites, at Department of Defense facilities and other hazardous waste locations. * Terian Koester, owner of Quality Water Analysis Laboratories in Pittsburg, Kan., was sentenced to 18 months in prison for violating the Clean Water Act and mail fraud. He was accused of fraudulent analysis of waste water, drinking water and hazardous waste. * William McCarthy, a senior chemist for the Lawrence, Mass., drinking water filtration plant, pleaded guilty to violating the Safe Drinking Water Act. During the 1990s McCarthy, who supervised quality testing, admitted he fabricated drinking water quality results. The Lawrence filtration plant draws water from the
[biofuel] Tax Credits Could Boost SUV Sales
http://ens-news.com/ens/jan2003/2003-01-21-09.asp Tax Credits Could Boost SUV Sales WASHINGTON, DC, January 21, 2003 (ENS) - A tax credit proposed by the Bush administration would allow small business owners to purchase large sport utility vehicles (SUVs) almost for free. One of the tax cuts included in a package proposed by President George W. Bush would increase from $25,000 to $75,000 the amount that business owners, including wealthy self employed doctors and lawyers, could claim as a tax write off if they buy a large SUV for their business use. The so called SUV loophole, first reported yesterday by The Detroit News, is part of a tax proposal that the administration says would help stimulate the economy by allowing a higher deduction for business equipment. The deduction was $17,500 in 1996, but was raised to $25,000 in 2003 under the Bush tax plan. This is a plan that says that if you are willing to take risk and invest more, that there's a benefit for doing so, Bush said when he announced his new tax initiative on January 9. It will have a positive effect throughout our entire economy. But environmental groups say the proposal could have a negative effect on the environment, encouraging small business owners to buy the largest SUVs available, rather than more fuel efficient, less polluting vehicles. The Internal Revenue Service defines any vehicle with a gross weight of 6,000 pounds or more as a truck, including large SUVs, and business owners can write off such trucks as necessary equipment. But they cannot write off as equipment vehicles that do not meet that weight requirement. A business can claim a deduction for the depreciation in value that a car experiences as soon as it is driven off the lot, but the maximum deduction is just $7,660 - far less than the proposed cap on business equipment. Even the tax credits offered for alternative fueled cars, which qualify for a $2,000 clean vehicle deduction, do not bring the incentives for buying cars up to the level of the proposed incentives for buying large SUVs. Leave it to the Bush administration to try to make an even more outrageous a taxpayer rip-off that benefits the rich, Daniel Becker, director of the global warming and energy program at the Sierra Club, told the Detroit News. I'm sure there will be a fight over this. Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
