Re: [biofuel] home heat
For any large-scale businesses (or home-owners who have oil heat for that matter)that are interested, I've just successfully burned homebrewed biodiesel in a large oil-burner furnace. If interested in the details contact me... viva biodiesel jamie merkle 617 969 2489 [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] home heat
Hello James For any large-scale businesses (or home-owners who have oil heat for that matter)that are interested, I've just successfully burned homebrewed biodiesel in a large oil-burner furnace. If interested in the details contact me... We're always getting asked about this, both off-list and on-list. It would be a pity to take this useful discussion off-list, where it will sit on a few private hard disks, rather than have it on-list for everyone to share, and where it will stay in the archives for anybody to find in the future. Best wishes Keith Addison Journey to Forever List owner viva biodiesel jamie merkle 617 969 2489 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] Chernobyl
Check out this site put together by a Ukrainian woman who rides though the Chernobyl area on her motorcycle. Interesting to see the city of 50,000 that was abandoned in 1986. http://www.angelfire.com/extreme4/kiddofspeed/ Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Re: Corporate ethics
I'm not good at drawing pictures,only inferences. Rico Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Drawing a blank here. Who is it that you are referring to? - Original Message - From: rico suavae [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 8:10 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Re: Corporate ethics Seems to me that one of the biggest zealots was put to death about this time of year a while back.Crazy thing was,he didn't do it for just a few.He did it for you too.There's nothing wrong about being passionate about what you do and believe in.Sharing it usually becomes part of the process.Otherwise we wouldn't be on this board.Share what you've discovered with others!Just don't shove it down their throat. Rico Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yah...Zealots should scare just about anyone. But then again, I'll put a zealous Greanpeacer hanging from the anchor of an outgoing freight destined to dump its toxic waste in the North Sea over a RWASP (right-wing, anglo-saxon, protestant) hell bent on forcing the world to live by his or her code. One serves the broadest interests of humanity. The other only a narrow corridor. Todd Swearingen - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 1:40 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Re: Corporate ethics Further to which... http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=18259 The Christian Taliban Best Keith Some really sick crap.. http://www.cdfe.org/ Pick a link. According to these asinigned zealots the sypmtoms are the cause of the disease. Some of them may be zealots, but I think most of them are just... damn, the term that's used is whores, but that's an abusive term for prostitutes and using it this way defames them: it implies dishonesty and carries contempt, which is unjust. Can't think of an apt term for these folks. Whores then, for now, with due reservation. Think I'd rather bed down with the Taliban. At least their doctrine has some assemblance of social order and construct other than exploiting anything and everything for a buck. There are terrorists and then there are terrorists. Todd Swearingen Appal Energy The Taliban is more honest - whatever their principles and actions might be (execrable in many ways), they at least hold to them because they believe in them, not because they're paid to. Though they did accept rather a lot of millions of dollars in US support... but you didn't see them spouting a lot of US propaganda as a result. I don't think they're any worse than Christian fundamentalist extremists or any other kind of fundamentalist extremists, maybe not as bad in some ways. (Keith supports Taliban! LOL!) Are the Taliban terrorists though? They did and do support Al-Qaeda, which is also a creation of US funding and support, and possibly more than that. The US is itelf a major supporter of terrorists, from the mujahideen to Fort Benning, and much more besides. (Ah, but they're *our* terrorists. For now maybe...) But I don't think the Taliban itself has been guilty of terrorism. Whereas the Center for the Defense of Free Enterprise and its ilk... Since the late 1980's, CDFE has been at the center of the Wise Use movement. CDFE was originally founded by Alan Gottlieb July 4, 1976. The Second Amendment Foundation and the Citizen's Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms were founded at the same time, and CDFE is still affiliated with both gun groups. According to the New York Times, Gottlieb shifted his focus to environmentalism when he realized the fundraising potential. The New York Times wrote, For conservative fundraisers like Mr. Gottlieb, the enemies were Senator Edward M. Kennedy and the threat of gun control. But now Mr. Gottlieb has found a better target. 'For us' said Mr. Gottlieb...'the environmental movement has become the perfect bogeyman.' CDFE is a 501(c)3 tax-exempt organization. The Taliban are not whores. Are people like CDFE terrorists? I think so. This is terrorism: 12/19/03 BOOK REVIEWS Eco-Imperialism: Green Power, Black Death Read the rave reviews of Paul Driessen's new book that exposes the green racist agenda to withhold malaria control and life-saving GMO crops from Africa and other developing nations. A horrifying account of green genocide. Inasmuch as info-toxins like this convince the gullible, which clearly they do, people's lives and livelihoods are destroyed en masse. The malaria-control bit is pro-DDT, which is an environmental disaster - great stuff for small-farmer communities entirely dependent on a healthy and functioning ecology. The pro-DDT lobbying is helping to hold up research on far
[biofuel] micro-organisms in oil
When the temperature is warm enough micro-organisms can start to develop in mineral oil, especially in WVO I guess. Now that spring/summer is coming I wonder, is there a substance that can safely be added to the WVO to prevent this, or doesn't it matter. Yves. Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] micro-organisms in oil
I don't know at all, but I can imagine that if you would recover the methanol just before you use the BD, it would keep the micro -organisms quiet for so long. Groeten, Pieter. - Original Message - From: Yves vd Hoeven [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 10:21 AM Subject: [biofuel] micro-organisms in oil When the temperature is warm enough micro-organisms can start to develop in mineral oil, especially in WVO I guess. Now that spring/summer is coming I wonder, is there a substance that can safely be added to the WVO to prevent this, or doesn't it matter. Yves. Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links Deze e-mail is door E-mail VirusScanner van Planet Internet gecontroleerd op virussen. Op http://www.planet.nl/evs staat een verwijzing naar de actuele lijst waar op wordt gecontroleerd. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] Re: OT: More on Measuring Appliance Energy Use
At 07:23 AM 4/2/2004, you wrote: Re: OT: More on Measuring Appliance Energy Use Hey,back in the day you could order anew car with amotor minder.All it was,was a vacuum gauge connected directly to the intake manifold.The idea was to keep the arrow in the green area of the gauge,which was high vacuum.It worked pretty well in changing your driving habits if you watched it.I see no reason why you couldn't hook up some chart recorder to a vacuum soruce to monotor the same thing. Rico murdoch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was discussing my home appliances and how much energy they use. But, as many already know, it's difficult to measure some of them because they don't come with meters which show their exact kW usage at any given time. For high energy use devices, such as refrigerators and water heaters, this could be very important toward an owner understanding their energy use. Understanding could, in turn, lead to better usage of those devices, or replacing of perniciously inefficient ones. Inclusion of some sort of power meter on home appliances could add cost to those devices, but I think some appliance-buyers might find this cost to be worth their while, particularly if electricity prices get higher. Also, if such measuring meters are included, they could be better-integrated with computerized-house-of-the-future plans, such as Microsoft sometimes tries to cook up. If the appliances plug in you can buy just such a meter for $20-$50 at Radio Shack or a similar sort of store. I know of two models discussed on a solar living list I am on. I bought the Watt Meter, and use it frequently. Because of it, I did not use Christmas lights for decorative room lighting, and replaced the vaporizer (with it's lovely warm steam) with a cool humidifier that uses 1/15th worth of energy. You really only need to measure the same item a day or even hour to figure out how much energy it uses, though if you leave it, the thing sits there and collects the info for as long as you wish along with the time it has been in use. Watching how much energy a waffle iron uses makes sure you turn it on, use it and turn it off, not leave it plugged on in case someone wants another. Electric water heaters use LOTS of electricity. I use a extremely efficient propane to which I am adding a solar heater, as soon as I can get it mounted. Caroline Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] (Fwd) Saudi priorities 'driving oil price'
Forwarded from another list. Seems relevant to the discussion on OPEC Tightens Screw on Oil Supply Restrictions --- Forwarded message follows --- Saudi priorities 'driving oil price' By Carola Hoyos in Vienna Published: April 2 2004 5:00 | Last Updated: April 2 2004 5:00 Oil prices will be driven increasingly by the needs of Saudi Arabia, the world's largest oil exporter and the most influential member of the Organisation of Petroleum Exporting Countries, analysts said after yesterday's Opec production cut. Facing a domestic struggle against suspected al-Qaeda militants and with little economic growth outside the oil sector, Saudi Arabia is increasingly reliant on high oil revenues to maintain domestic stability. Last year Riyadh earned $85bn (¥69bn, £46bn) from oil, the highest in 21 years. This allowed it to register a budget surplus, only the second in two decades. It's somewhat surprising that Saudi Arabia would be accepting of high oil prices - that's unusual, said Brad Bourland, chief economist at Saudi American Bank in Riyadh. It is the need for ever- higher revenues and the belief that around the corner there will be a supply glut. The Saudis are pre-emptively keeping markets tight to accommodate jumps in supply from non-Opec sources. In total, Opec earned $55bn more in 2003 than 2004 as oil prices rose and output increased to make up for the shortfall in Iraq exports because of the war. Saudi Arabia has suffered somewhat because of the decline in the dollar, in which oil is traded. Goldman Sachs, the US-based investment bank, calculates that Opec countries will need oil prices between $35-$40 within the next five to 10 years, in large part because of their growing populations. That demographic pressure is especially strong in Saudi Arabia. Opec has become increasingly effective at keeping prices at levels it finds comfortable, most recently $22-$28 a barrel, or higher to account for the drop in the dollar. Though the successful co-operation between the cartel's members is not assured, what is clear is that 80 per cent of the world's oil reserves lie in the Middle East and 60 per cent of the world's oil is within the boundaries of Middle Eastern Opec members. Additional reporting by Roula Khalaf in http://news.ft.com/servlet/ContentServer? pagename=FT.com/StoryFT/FullStoryc=StoryFTcid=1079420106634p=101257 1727236 --- End of forwarded message --- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] Cellphone hazard proven
Doesn't help adult's brain chemistry either. Kirk What Cell Phones Can Do To Youngster's Brain In 2 Minutes... http://www.sundaymirror.co.uk/shtml/NEWS/P15S3.shtml Excerpts: Scientists have discovered that a call lasting just two minutes can alter the natural electrical activity of a child's brain for up to an hour afterwards. And they also found for the first time how radio waves from mobile phones penetrate deep into the brain and not just around the ear. The study by Spanish scientists has prompted leading medical experts to question whether it is safe for children to use mobile phones at all. Doctors fear that disturbed brain activity in children could lead to psychiatric and behavioural problems or impair learning ability. It was the first time that human guinea pigs were used to measure the effects of mobile phone radiation on children. The tests were carried out on an 11-year-old boy and a 13-year-old girl called Jennifer. Using a CATEEN scanner, linked to a machine measuring brain wave activity, researchers were able to create the images above. (Images not shown here.) The yellow coloured part of the scan on the right shows how radiation spreads through the centre of the brain and out to the ear on the other side of the skull. The scans found that disturbed brain wave activity lasted for up to an hour after the phone call ended. Dr Gerald Hyland -- a Government adviser on mobiles -- says he finds the results extremely disturbing. It makes one wonder whether children, whose brains are still developing, should be using mobile phones, he adds. The results show that children's brains are affected for long periods even after very short-term use. Their brain wave patterns are abnormal and stay like that for a long period. This could affect their mood and ability to learn in the classroom if they have been using a phone during break time, for instance. We don't know all the answers yet, but the alteration in brain waves could lead to things like a lack of concentration, memory loss, inability to learn and aggressive behaviour. Previously it had been thought that interference with brain waves and brain chemistry stopped when a call ended. The results of the study by the Spanish Neuro Diagnostic Research Institute in Marbella coincide with a new survey that shows 87 per cent of 11- to 16-year-olds own mobile phones and 40 per cent of them spend 15 minutes or more talking each day on them. And disturbingly, 70 per cent said they would not change the use of their phone even if advised to by the Government. Dr Hyland plans to publish the latest findings in medical journal The Lancet next year. He said: This information shows there really isn't a safe amount of mobile phone use. We don't know what lasting damage is being done by this exposure. If I were a parent I would now be extremely wary about allowing my children to use a mobile even for a very short period. My advice would be to avoid mobiles. Dr Michael Klieeisen, who conducted the study, said: We were able to see in minute detail what was going on in the brain. We never expected to see this continuing activity in the brain. We are worried that delicate balances that exist -- such as the immunity to infection and disease -- could be altered by interference with chemical balances in the brain. A Department of Health spokesman said: In children mobile phone use should be restricted to very short periods of time. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Re: OT: More on Measuring Appliance Energy Use
Inclusion of some sort of power meter on home appliances could add cost to those devices, but I think some appliance-buyers might find this cost to be worth their while, particularly if electricity prices get higher. Also, if such measuring meters are included, they could be better-integrated with computerized-house-of-the-future plans, such as Microsoft sometimes tries to cook up. If the appliances plug in you can buy just such a meter for $20-$50 at Radio Shack or a similar sort of store. I know of two models discussed on a solar living list I am on. I bought the Watt Meter, and use it frequently. Because of it, I did not use Christmas lights for decorative room lighting, and replaced the vaporizer (with it's lovely warm steam) with a cool humidifier that uses 1/15th worth of energy. You really only need to measure the same item a day or even hour to figure out how much energy it uses, though if you leave it, the thing sits there and collects the info for as long as you wish along with the time it has been in use. Watching how much energy a waffle iron uses makes sure you turn it on, use it and turn it off, not leave it plugged on in case someone wants another. Electric water heaters use LOTS of electricity. I use a extremely efficient propane to which I am adding a solar heater, as soon as I can get it mounted. Caroline Thanks. I've literally received about six similar suggestions. I'm suggesting it should be built in to appliances (or maybe wall-sockets) for folks who are not handy enough, or don't feel like, trying to do it themselves. Im going to go on the web this weekend to buy one, now that I can see from your post how easy it is to find. Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Victory Gardens?
Murdoch, as a gardener, naturally I'm in agreement (pun intended). And as I'm foraging through material on Journey to Forever (small farms) and the Soil Association and more, there is much more to it than just local sourcing. And it includes things like city gardens, guerilla gardening, box gardens, and more. And it is simply so human. There is a simple satisfaction to growing and harvesting (OK, weeding sucks). I think you want a better term than Victory Garden. I know what you mean. However, to me the term is quite specific to WWII, and I think you want to send a different message. Perhaps Low-Oil Gardens. Of course, there are many other messages you can stir into the mix (organics, propagating heirloom or heritage species vs. GMOs, native species, rainwater harvesting, soil amendment, composting as landfill diversion, neighbourhood co- operation, nature as the ultimate recycler, photosynthesis is the original solar power ...) Human activity stems from food energy, so I guess it shouldn't be a surprise there are so many connections from this point. So, let's get growing! (Snow has nearly disappeared from my yard now, and plants are started in the lean-to greenhouse - nice to see the green again.) Darryl McMahon To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com From: murdoch [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date sent: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 11:10:45 -0800 Subject:[biofuel] Victory Gardens? Send reply to: biofuel@yahoogroups.com During the four years of the anti-renewable-energy (by doing as much as possible to downplay and ignore it, and misportray it when the other two aren't possible) Bush Administration, one of the topics I stupidly expected to hear from others, but never did, was about Victory Gardens. I was stupid in this because frankly I knew very well that four years of the Bush Administration meant, basically, silence on anything having to do with renewable energy. If you never mention something then you can avoid a mistake, which is to get drawn into defending a position you know very well is indefensible and in some ways outrageous. And by never mentioning renewable energy, one can cast the impression, soto voce, underground, that people who do mention it are wacos, lunies, etc that they *and their pet technologies and practices and social concerns* can be marginalized. And by never mentioning it, it doesn't come up that often, and you get away with four to eight years of full-steam-ahead make-it-more-impossible to kick the addiction of oil-coal-nuclear-natgas. Victory Gardens must be pretty far down the list even for renewable-energy-discussers (discutants? I always think there should be a word for 'discussion participant'), but maybe the lack of mention of a topic during this Administration should be a clue to us that if we think of it, let's get it out there a bit for discussion. I don't know 1/100 of what I'm sure others know. When I was a kid and I asked why my Papa grew tomatoes in the back, I was told it was a habit he'd picked up during WWII, when he was slightly too old to serve but wanted to contribute in some way. So, that was when I first heard about Victory Gardens. Some here, who may despise how the U.S. has chosen to define the War On Terror, may call into question the naming of this thing, the Victory Garden. They may say that whether it's 9-11 or 9-10 or 9-12, the rational for local food growing has nothing to do with a Victory in a War on Terror. Ok, whatever. I mean: let me make clear that I disagree, but that does not mean that we disagree as to the discussion of finding ways to save energy. One of the ideas that Keith and others have passed on to me that I particularly like is the idea that one can save energy (and money if prices for energy are reflected in products) simply by sourcing one's food supply as close as possible to home. This includes, for some, growing one's own food. For others it means buying it at a restauraunt or grocery store that buys locally-grown food. Ideally, grown in a progressive clean lower-energy way. I happen to make some connection to the U.S. resolving its foreign policy issues permanently and beneficially and such matters as changing energy patterns at home, but even if one doesn't see that connection, I think the idea of a personal garden or a Victory Garden would get some traction in the U.S. Of course, no Bush Administration official would dare mention the idea. They've already permanently marginalized every sustainable technology and renewable energy person and concept they could think of. Which means they've tried to distance themselves from some Americans who could have helped them in their War, if they'd actually wanted to do everything posssible to define it properly and then win it. Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list
Re: [biofuel] OPEC Tightens Screw on Oil Supply Restrictions
Plus: - North American oil consumption continues to rise on an annual basis - North Americans have purchased a significant number of heavy private vehicles in the past 5 years, which will continue to aggravate the situation for at least another decade, aided and abetted by tax incentives that encourage the purchase of these gas-hogs - the U.S. government is currently buying large quantities of oil for the Strategic Reserve Fund, at a time of relatively high world oil prices - does not appear to be fiscally prudent timing for the American taxpayer, so what's the real agenda here? Favours to the friends of the White House in the oil business prior to the November 2004 American elections? - Saudi's need the cash to maintain House of Saud powerbase, and the U.S. dollar is slipping relative to other currencies, so prices look higher when reported in U.S. dollars - if House of Saud is trying to appease moderate factions in S.A., the appearance of putting the screws to the U.S. on oil can't hurt in terms of perceptions at home and in the Muslim street - maybe the folks that want us to believe they can manage/control the world oil markets don't have as tight a grip as they would have us believe - cynicism mode on perhaps the U.S. administration (which has strong ties to House of Saud) are manipulating the market to drive up prices (see U.S. Strategic Reserve purchases item above) in the short term, so that shortly before November 2004 elections they can drop prices dramatically to show they are in control, and all is good in America, so you can safely vote Republican cynicism mode off Plenty to ponder. Of course, getting us to focus on the roller coaster of world oil prices could just be a distraction to keep us from focusing from getting off fossil fuels and aggressively implementing a sustainable energy strategy and infrastructure. But what do I know? I'm just crazy enough to believe that the hydrogen economy isn't the answer. Darryl McMahon To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com From: Hakan Falk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date sent: Thu, 01 Apr 2004 05:23:13 +0200 Subject:Re: [biofuel] OPEC Tightens Screw on Oil Supply Restrictions Send reply to: biofuel@yahoogroups.com MM, Personally I have some thought about the total scenario. I find the OPEC cuts being against their own adopted policies and it might be some other underlaying reasons also. - It has been said many times that we now are at the Hubbert peak of world oil production. - It has also been said that the Saudis and the other swing producers have over reported their reserves for a while now. - The Iraq war took out a considerable oil production for US, I think they were the third supplier in size. - The Venezuelan coup attempt by CIA and the following unrest are hurting deliveries. - China is buying up a larger part of oil production. - The OPEC cartel was not supporting the Iraq invasion and cannot or do not want to compensate for deficiencies. - Increasing anti Saudi propaganda, that must worry them. - US one sided support of Israel. - The miscalculation and problems in Iraq, that inhibit a restoring and rise of Iraqi oil production. - The miscalculation and problems with NG supplies. - US policies that have isolated them somewhat from the world community. - and a few other minor problems. Maybe it is not possible to increase the oil production, even if they wanted. It must be difficult to motivate larger sacrifices or extra ordinary measures by OPEC, to bail out US in their thirst for oil. Any further aggressions by US, would only result in further disturbances in oil supply. It is looking like a catch 22 situation and with little time to implement alternatives like coal and oil. What do you think? Hakan At 04:15 01/04/2004, you wrote: I may be exaggerating though the near-term effects. Perhaps many Americans will just pay that extra $10-$20 per week and not sweat the matter. Many, I guess, maybe more so than we'd think, *IF* it's seen as an environment issue, which a majority of Americans take seriously (despite all the best Wise Use efforts). It's all those who don't have an extra $10-$20 per week that worry me. Best Keith Yes, thanks, I am not against making clear that the issue is about more than a few dollars per week, but for some Americans, about eating and survival (even as some of those may not have time or inclination or ability or access to speak out about the issues that are threatening their existence). I was raising the $10 or $20 per week issue merely to try to be fair because in this sort of conversation I am so often met with the wise wink about how I don't appreciate the real issues, and Americans (grossly overgeneralized too often, don't you think?) just haven't shown they (whoever they are as a gross
Re: [biofuel] Re: OT: More on Measuring Appliance Energy Use
Thanks. I've literally received about six similar suggestions. I'm suggesting it should be built in to appliances (or maybe wall-sockets) for folks who are not handy enough, or don't feel like, trying to do it themselves. It would seem to be a natural for energy efficient new home construction. Do the monitoring at the circuit box level. Lets see, ammeters attached in a circuit box with the output wired to a computer to read the data. or for a retrofit, connect the ammeters from the circuit box via a modem for a wi-fi connection, so you don't need any aditional wiring. sounds like a business opertunity here. -- -- Bob Allen,http://ozarker.org/bob -- - The modern conservative is engaged in one of Man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness JKG --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] Clean Car Parade at NYC Auto Show
Dear Bio-Diesel Drivers: When the New York Auto Show opens next weekend, volunteers with Sierra Club and Global Exchange will hold a rally to call on the car corporations to break our addiction to oil. As part of the rally, we are organizing a Clean Car Parade to show people that workable alternatives to the gas guzzlers exist. If you live in the greater NYC area, we hope you will bring your bio-fuel vehicle out to the parade. If you don't live near New York, please pass this invitation to any bio-fuel drivers you know who aren't on this list. Many thanks, Jason Mark Clean Car Campaigner Global Exchange Breaking Our Oil Addiction IS NOT Rocket Science: Show the Gas-Guzzlers What They Could Be Driving Hybrid, Electric Vehicle and Bio-diesel Rally and Parade at NYC Auto Show Saturday, April 10,12:00 Noon Assemble at 36th Street and 11th Avenue The New York City Auto Show is a premier event for the auto industry, a chance for the carmakers to show off their new models and get the public excited about their products. But when it comes to improving fuel efficiency and breaking AmericaÕs deadly addiction to oil, most major car companies have very little to boast about. Drivers of hybrid cars, electric vehicles, and bio-diesel vehicles know it doesnÕt have to be this way. Using proven technologies, hybrid vehicles get double the gas mileage of the average car on the road. Electric vehicles are capable of running entirely free of fossil fuels, as are bio-diesel cars, which essentially run on vegetable oil. As the growing number of hybrids, Evs and bio-diesel vehicles on the road proves, breaking our oil addiction is not rocket science. The technologies for change exist; itÕs the will thatÕs lacking. On Saturday, April 10, environmentalists, human rights groups, and public transit advocates will hold a rally at the LA Auto Show to demand that the car corporations act immediately to break our oil addiction. Hybrid, EV and bio-diesel drivers will join them to show the positive alternatives that exist on the roads today and to build public awareness about the promise of these vehicles. If you or anyone you know drives a hybrid, EV or bio-diesel vehicle, please invite them to this important event. For more information, contact Jason Mark at Global Exchange, 510-551-9685 (cell) or [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or visit http://www.globalexchange.org/campaigns/oil Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] (fwd) [evworld] Clean Car Parade NYC Auto Show
On Fri, 02 Apr 2004 09:23:16 -0800, Jason Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear EV and Hybrid Drivers: When the NY City Auto Show opens next weekend, volunteers with Sierra Club and Global Exchange will hold a rally to demand that the car corporations break our addiction to oil. As part of the rally, we will host a Clean Car Parade to show auto show attendees that workable alternatives to the gas guzzlers exist. If you live in the great NYC area, we hope you will bring our clean car to the parade. And if you don't live in the area, we hope you will spread this invitation far and wide to clean car drivers that you know who are not on this discussion list. Many thanks, Jason Mark Clean Car Campaigner Global Exchange Breaking Our Oil Addiction IS NOT Rocket Science: Show the Gas-Guzzlers What They Could Be Driving Hybrid, Electric Vehicle and Bio-diesel Rally and Parade at NYC Auto Show Saturday, April 10,12:00 Noon Assemble at 36th Street and 11th Avenue The New York City Auto Show is a premier event for the auto industry, a chance for the carmakers to show off their new models and get the public excited about their products. But when it comes to improving fuel efficiency and breaking AmericaÕs deadly addiction to oil, most major car companies have very little to boast about. Drivers of hybrid cars, electric vehicles, and bio-diesel vehicles know it doesnÕt have to be this way. Using proven technologies, hybrid vehicles get double the gas mileage of the average car on the road. Electric vehicles are capable of running entirely free of fossil fuels, as are bio-diesel cars, which essentially run on vegetable oil. As the growing number of hybrids, Evs and bio-diesel vehicles on the road proves, breaking our oil addiction is not rocket science. The technologies for change exist; itÕs the will thatÕs lacking. On Saturday, April 10, environmentalists, human rights groups, and public transit advocates will hold a rally at the LA Auto Show to demand that the car corporations act immediately to break our oil addiction. Hybrid, EV and bio-diesel drivers will join them to show the positive alternatives that exist on the roads today and to build public awareness about the promise of these vehicles. If you or anyone you know drives a hybrid, EV or bio-diesel vehicle, please invite them to this important event. For more information, contact Jason Mark at Global Exchange, 510-551-9685 (cell) or [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or visit http://www.globalexchange.org/campaigns/oil Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Victory Gardens?
On Fri, 02 Apr 2004 10:42:29 -0500, you wrote: Murdoch, as a gardener, naturally I'm in agreement (pun intended). And as I'm foraging through material on Journey to Forever (small farms) and the Soil Association and more, there is much more to it than just local sourcing. And it includes things like city gardens, guerilla gardening, box gardens, and more. And it is simply so human. There is a simple satisfaction to growing and harvesting I slightly know what you mean. I have just grown what are more or less my first things ever (or since a few indoor plants I killed in college), some rose bushes that the previous owner left outside. I was surprised at the sense of satisfaction I got, and that I was able to make a difference in bringing them back to good growth So, I agree with your pointing out of this sense of satisfaction. I've also enjoyed watching even the smallest insects and plants and birds. This is, to me, completely unexpected. I must admit that I made the one-time mistake when I moved in of spraying pesticides, as I was completely freaked out by Black Widow Infestations inside my house, (having never seen a one until recently) and the possibility of other dangerous pests, but I guess I'll be paying for this mistake for a long time. (OK, weeding sucks). There is enough of a weed problem here such that this rose bush thing may be a one time deal. I don't have the time or money I don't think for the size of the garden I've got, and right now it's a weed garden. But I'm piecing together solutions. It's just going to take many many years for me to get things down to any kind of idea of what I want. I think you want a better term than Victory Garden. I know what you mean. However, to me the term is quite specific to WWII, and I think you want to send a different message. Perhaps Low-Oil Gardens. I think maybe the term Victory Garden, or some other term, could be co-opted to connote a loose worldwide or nationwide movement of people who garden for certain defined reasons in certain defined ways. Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] [Fwd: Nu Fuel Discovery]
Original Message Subject:Nu Fuel Discovery Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 11:29:01 -0500 From: Nu Energy Research Laboratories [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Nu Energy Research Laboratories [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: Nu Energy Research Laboratories To: eGroup list (nuenergy) [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: Radiant Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED], JLN Labs [EMAIL PROTECTED], Free Energy Claims [EMAIL PROTECTED], Free Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED], energy2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Good Day Everyone! Here is the final stage of technology transfer that I have promised... http://www.nuenergy.org/technology/radon_fuel.htm Throughout the following weeks I will introduce real working hardware beginning with my IONIC DIODE and then with my ULTRA FUEL CELL. These have been developed beyond bench top experiments into practical products as many of you have been expecting for a long time now. They are not yet at the level of powering a home but it will not be hard to realize that by scaling them up they could be powering a home in short time. Power assistance should be realized straight away. With the acceptance of my radon fuel discovery in conjunction with the ionic diode and ultra fuel cell hundreds of kilowatt outputs can be realized. But first, we must take baby steps to reach our final goal of energy independence that will lead to our personal freedoms. My technology transfer is the first step that we all take together. Best Regards, Bruce A. Perreault [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] introduction of newbie.
hello all, My name is Marc Orion Cardoso. im chairman of the Ecogenics center for the study of alternative solutions.(non profit)... known as Ecogenics. we are heavily involved in biofuels and operate an ethanol distillery which we are modyfying so as to also process wvo into biodiesel. We also do a lot of research in Algae production for food fuel and fertiliser.. you can see some of our work at www dabney.com/ecogenics/ or just go to ecogenics on google. looking foreward to being here.. Marc. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] Agri-Biodiesel tax incentive distinction
Seems our fine folks who represent the soy industry have been getting their agenda rolling quite well in creating (another) rift the biodiesel world. Not the small producer / large producer issue this time, but in the virgin oil / waste oil issue. Although no legislation on the federal level has passed, check this out language out The current Senate bill language can be found in S.1072, Title V, Subtitle B. The bill defines first-use vegetable oil and animal fats as agri-biodiesel. Second-use oils such as recycled cooking oil receive half of the incentive of agri-biodiesel. The incentives go to the blender, and are aimed at helping offset the incremental cost of biodiesel to the end user. ( from todays National Biodiesel Board (read American Soy Association) update ) Half the incentive for second use? Is there a justification for this? I see a growing need for a unified lobby representing the 2nd use biodiesel producers. -rob Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] home heat
I have been considering for some time now, constructing a waste oil furnace. Seems quite simple, and does not require the making of biodiesel. Other than direct compatibility with current oil burning devices, is there any advantage to making biodiesel first? Seems the BTU value of the glycerol content is worth utilizing, not to mention the energy/chemical/waste savings of skipping the biodiesel process. -rob At 12:06 PM 4/2/2004 +0900, you wrote: Hello James For any large-scale businesses (or home-owners who have oil heat for that matter)that are interested, I've just successfully burned homebrewed biodiesel in a large oil-burner furnace. If interested in the details contact me... We're always getting asked about this, both off-list and on-list. It would be a pity to take this useful discussion off-list, where it will sit on a few private hard disks, rather than have it on-list for everyone to share, and where it will stay in the archives for anybody to find in the future. Best wishes Keith Addison Journey to Forever List owner viva biodiesel jamie merkle 617 969 2489 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
