[biofuel] BTU of WVO & 'Zine of the Times'
Group, Is there a doccumented source on the web with a chart of available BTU for various SVO and WVO? I thought I had this info on my machine but I can't find it. Also, I just received my copy of Girl_Marks Biodiesel Zine. Wow, nice collection of information. Many subjects in the arena of making biodiesel are covered - the little 'biodiesel bible' if you will. Mark __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! http://platinum.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> Make Money Online Auctions! Make $500.00 or We Will Give You Thirty Dollars for Trying! http://us.click.yahoo.com/yMx78A/fNtFAA/i5gGAA/FGYolB/TM -~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] Viscocity for SVO / WVO
Group, Anybody have a reference source for the viscocity for SVO / WVO ? Thanks Mark __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! http://platinum.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> Make Money Online Auctions! Make $500.00 or We Will Give You Thirty Dollars for Trying! http://us.click.yahoo.com/yMx78A/fNtFAA/i5gGAA/FGYolB/TM -~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Viscocity for SVO / WVO
Nevermind , found it http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_yield.html of course. --- Mark Foltarz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Group, > >Anybody have a reference source for the viscocity for SVO / WVO ? > >Thanks > >Mark > > > __ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! > http://platinum.yahoo.com > __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! http://platinum.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> Make Money Online Auctions! Make $500.00 or We Will Give You Thirty Dollars for Trying! http://us.click.yahoo.com/yMx78A/fNtFAA/i5gGAA/FGYolB/TM -~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] Using SVO / WVO as a fuel in a oil burner
Group, I would like to correspond with anyone who has had experience using SVO / WVO in a fuel oil boiler. Thanks Mark __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! http://platinum.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> FREE Cell Phones with up to $400 Cash Back! http://us.click.yahoo.com/_bBUKB/vYxFAA/i5gGAA/FGYolB/TM -~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] FYI, North America about to get a 25MPG V-10 Diesel from VW
Wow! This definately gives me a chubby! Wonder if they will bolt up to vw bus bellhousings?! --- "Ryan Morgan, Aerials Express" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://www.autonews.com/article.cms?articleId=43013 > > VW commits V-10 diesel to U.S. > > > By Dorothee Ostle > Automotive News / March 24, 2003 > > WOLFSBURG, Germany -- Volkswagen AG will introduce its V-10 TDI > direct-injection diesel engine in the United States, VW Chairman Bernd > Pischetsrieder says. > > The engine will debut in the VW Touareg SUV in the spring of 2004 and later > will be available in the Phaeton luxury sedan. > > Pischetsrieder says it has not been decided whether the V-8 TDI diesel > engine Audi uses in its flagship A8 would be made available in the United > States. > > __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more http://tax.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> Save Smiley. Help put Messenger back in the office. http://us.click.yahoo.com/4PqtEC/anyFAA/i5gGAA/FGYolB/TM -~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [biofuel] FYI, North America about to get a 25MPG V-10 Diesel from VW
Would you happen to have any links to the actual motor specifications? I like the little '82 1.6L diesel in my VW pickup. However, a similar motor in a van is a miserable combination! - way too slow for driving on the interstate! As I prepare to give my type IV engine a new home, I am preparing a 3.L Buick gasoline V6 for my '75 Westy - oh how I hope I can keep the project alive to eventually put a diesel in the van. So this new VW is a rather exciting proposition - keeping it all in the same family as it were. Mark --- "Ryan Morgan, Aerials Express" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Rumor has it the VW Eurovan is slated for a 6 cylinder TDI and the microbus > will hopefully get the same 4 cylinder we are currently enjoying. > > -----Original Message- > From: Mark Foltarz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 9:12 PM > To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [biofuel] FYI, North America about to get a 25MPG V-10 > Diesel from VW > > > Wow! This definately gives me a chubby! > Wonder if they will bolt up to vw bus bellhousings?! > > > --- "Ryan Morgan, Aerials Express" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > http://www.autonews.com/article.cms?articleId=43013 > > > > VW commits V-10 diesel to U.S. > > > > > > By Dorothee Ostle > > Automotive News / March 24, 2003 > > > > WOLFSBURG, Germany -- Volkswagen AG will introduce its V-10 TDI > > direct-injection diesel engine in the United States, VW Chairman Bernd > > Pischetsrieder says. > > > > The engine will debut in the VW Touareg SUV in the spring of 2004 and > later > > will be available in the Phaeton luxury sedan. > > > > Pischetsrieder says it has not been decided whether the V-8 TDI diesel > > engine Audi uses in its flagship A8 would be made available in the United > > States. > > > > > > > __ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more > http://tax.yahoo.com > > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > Biofuels list archives: > http://archive.nnytech.net/ > > Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. > To unsubscribe, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more http://tax.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> FREE Cell Phones with up to $400 Cash Back! http://us.click.yahoo.com/_bBUKB/vYxFAA/i5gGAA/FGYolB/TM -~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Re: BTU of WVO & 'Zine of the Times'
To Whomever has a problem, I started this thread. I received the manual. I was glad to have received it and have shared it with several people. NOT EVERYONE HAS A DAMN COMPUTER! And do you really believe that anyone is going to get rich off of selling a $5 booklet? Maybe enough to buy some various parts or more methanol. You don't like it? Go pester someone else or better yet, do something half as good! There is PLENTY of stuff I have not seen on the web - yet! Overall, there is an excellent representation of the backyard biodiesel state of the art. I have learned a number of "hints and kinks" that typically only comes from doing. So my personal benefits include bypassing mistakes that I know I would have encountered otherwise. Whats my angle here? I appreciate real work and productivity. I have seen my share of pure BULLSHIT, caprice and greed. I think I know when something is genuine. To me the booklet is a practical manual for producing and finishing biodiesel. And I completely belive that when she put the material together she had absolutely nothing but pure and good intentions of teaching others. I dare you to meet that same standard. 88's Mark --- martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It's interesting that you can tell my mood from a question, I was just > asking. I'm sorry if I appear hostile. (fer cryin' out loud) > > > mark manchester wrote: > > >Martin, > >Whew, what a cranky letter. We ASKED her about her BD Guide, fer cryin' out > >loud. > >Jesse > > > >From: martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com > >Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2003 01:04:45 -0400 > >To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com > >Subject: Re: [biofuel] Re: BTU of WVO & 'Zine of the Times' > > > > > >Why charge for something that can be had at dozens of different websites? > >And how does it being constantly reworked coincide with it not being > >available electronically? > >Do you give proper citations for all of your sources? > > > >girl_mark_fire wrote: > > > > > > > >>I missed this message in the midst of all the raging war content and > >>Foltarz had to call me (a difficult thing to do considering I live > >>with 10 people and one phone line) for me to find out. > >> > >>Yeah, I've got a 50-page piece of print matter with the generic name > >>of Biodiesel Homebrewers' Guide, about making biodiesel- nope, it's > >>not going to be available electronically, it's constantly getting > >>reworked and added to, and the price is $5 plus shipping which in the > >>US means it's $7 by mail. I guess I need to go online somewhere and > >>find out how much that'd be to Canada and all those other places. > >>Email me offlist for info. > >> > >>mark > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > -- > --- > Martin Klingensmith > http://nnytech.net/ > http://infoarchive.net/ > > > __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more http://tax.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> FREE Cell Phones with up to $400 Cash Back! http://us.click.yahoo.com/_bBUKB/vYxFAA/i5gGAA/FGYolB/TM -~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Re: [biofuel] Re: Methanol Suppliers in Ohio?
Masha Hey Kid ! How you doing? Absolutely great to hear from you! Yeah, I have a diesel vw pickup that I bought in Salt Lake City a couple years back. I sold off the '63 bus to a teacher in Canton. And I refuse to let go of my '75 camper. I am putting in a V6 this spring - having the adapter plate made in Oregon. Looking for a good diesel engine candidate - probably a Mercedes 300d but the trans will need to be re-geared. I have been absolutely entranced by the JourneyToForever site. I am blown away about all the people that are doing the fun things that the "hippies" used to do. But these people are doing this stuff now - and for real good reasons. The timing of all this is great - it gives me strength and hope as I prepare to sell the house here and buy some farmland in central Ohio. I keep daydreaming about the energy in all the free veg oil that is available. Funny, a lot of people are grossed out by the concept of salvaging this stuff. But I think I was broken of all such sensitivities some 14 years ago when some folks from New York City brought a ton of perfectly eatable, dumpster dived food to the Rainbow Gathering in Minnesota! Now who could that be?? By the way, I periodically correspond with Bob - aka Bob the Hippie. Remember him? The uses for literally free biomass see to be endless - regardless of its form, be it veg oil or heaps of twigs. I have always believed if a person can supply his own source of energy, he can be so much more free to explore life. When coupling this little power of freedom with the responsibility to conserve energy and resources, we really become human beings rather than automaton servants to the pervasive capitalist greed that seems to have enveloped this world. Don't get me wrong, I think Capitalism is the tops - it in itself is a freedom. But some folks have consolidated power as a result of our complacency in terms of food, energy etc. Any rate, thank you for the welcome. I hope to be making up my first "straw colored batch" perhaps this week. Yours Mark --- "girl_mark_fire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Wow folks. The INternet is a nifty thing: > I know the guy sending this post- sort of (well I think I did, anyway, based > on the Cleveland connection as well as > the name). He inadvertently introduced me to diesel VW's in about 1989- he > was friends with my hippie boyfriend > (and therefore helped work on the Hippie's van becfore I butted in and > learned to do it myself). Anyway I was > already interested in diesels due to the fuel economy issue, and Mark Foltarz > had a small fleet of leaky old Rabbits > that he bought for $50 a piece or something like that. Which made me > realize that 45-mpg diesel-car ownership > wasn't going to be an expensive and hard-to-achieve situation. This was wayyy > before I heard anything about > vegetale oil fuels . And now here I am. > > Hey Mark Foltarz: I "used to be" Dave Bass's oldtime music playing friend > Masha. Now I go by Mark as well > (nickname, thanks to various smart-alek friends who saddled me with it after > I got mistaken for a (12yearold) > boy too many times living down South). I ended up in diesel school and all > kinds of mechanic-related stuff. and now > I'm a biodiesel weirdo like the rest of these people on this here list. > Welcome to biodiesel! > > M. > > > --- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, Mark Foltarz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hello Group, > > > > Anyone near Cleveland have a source for small quantities of methanol? > > > > Thanks > > > > Mark > > > > __ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Shopping - Send Flowers for Valentine's Day > > http://shopping. > > __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Send Flowers for Valentine's Day http://shopping.yahoo.com Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] A List Some Carmakers Don't Covet - and of course no little diesel VWs
Group, Noticed there weren't any listing for great MPG diesels. Yes, these "environmentalists" ( the ones who rate these cars, sipping their no caf lattes, probably payed stooges of the car manufacturers and have never probably had to actually swing a wrench to repair one of these modern nightmares) laud the hybrid gas / electric cars. What do we do with the batteries when they give out? Are the entirely recylable or just more crud in the waste heap to satisfy somebody's fantasy that buying something new is going to save the planet. Exactly how much of the so called "technology" really gets recycled? 50mpg? Every VW diesel in the 80's did that - and I'm sure the particulate waste is trivial when compared to one of those SUVs with a single person driving around talking on acell phone. You know the type - meet 'em every day. Also, what about the lowly 3 cyl Geo Metro? It may still be found here in the U.S. quite serviceable for LESS than $1000 - also 50 mpg gasoline. They go like hell, parts are dirt cheap and best of all - they are easy to work on. And of course we will never see the VW Lupo (90 MPG on diesel ) in this country thanks to the safety tyrants like Ralph Nader and the like. Sorry gang, I don't care for socialists "good intentions" modulating the way I want to live my life. I hear there are a small number of Lupos in Canada. Might be nice to do a personal import. I bet if we ALL drove small pollution would not be an issue. It would be even less of an issue if we kept some of the above cars on the road longer. I wonder how much energy has been saved because I still keep a 20 year old VW diesel Rabbit going? I know, I'm preaching to the choir. Finally, this country would not be at odds with the world if we didn't bullshit ourselves with these gas guzzling insane SUV's. I don't think U.S. servicemen and women should be placing their lives on the line so that Joe entrepeneur, Mrs. SoccerMom and home boy rapper thug up the street can drive around burning literally tons of excess fuel because of machismo or false sense of security. Yes, SUVs have a high center of gravity and will roll over right on the roof - a lot like the old Corvairs - but you don't see Ralphy successfully lobbying against them. Mark --- Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://www.nytimes.com/2003/02/18/business/18AUTO.html?tntemail0=&page > wanted=print&position=top > > See also: > http://www.epa.gov/greenvehicles/ > Green Vehicle Guide > > February 18, 2003 > > A List Some Carmakers Don't Covet > By DANNY HAKIM > > ETROIT, Feb. 14 - Automakers are obsessed with ratings, from customer > satisfaction to how many hours it takes workers to assemble a car. > But there is at least one list many do not like to talk about. > > The Environmental Protection Agency rates every vehicle according to > the amount of pollutants coming out of the tailpipe that contribute > to smog, which can worsen asthma and lead to cancer and lung damage. > Many popular sport utility vehicles and pickup trucks rank at the > bottom on the 0-to-10 scale. Among them are a number of recently > introduced - and highly profitable - models. > > Vehicles with ratings from 0 to 4 include four pickup trucks - the > Ford F-150, Chevrolet Silverado, Dodge Ram and GMC Sierra - as well > as sport utilities, including the Mercedes M class, Chevrolet Tahoe > and Suburban, Cadillac Escalade, GMC Yukon and Lincoln Navigator. > > Toyota, which has been praised by environmentalists for its > fuel-efficient hybrid car, the Prius, also sells three sport utility > vehicles that receive low ratings: the Sequoia, the Land Cruiser and > the LX 470 from its Lexus division. > > The low ratings mean that these vehicles emit at best 21 pounds of > pollutants for every 15,000 miles driven, the E.P.A. says, and have 2 > to 10 times the emissions of most Honda Civics. (The ratings are > posted at epa.gov/greenvehicles.) > > Carmakers point out that even for the lowest-rated vehicles, > emissions of smog-forming pollutants - chemicals like hydrocarbons > and nitrogen oxide as well as soot - are substantially lower than in > the past. And by the end of the decade, regulations will be phased > out that currently allow medium and large sport utilities and pickups > to have greater emissions of airborne pollutants than do cars. > > "By next year, 2004, cars and trucks will run 99 percent cleaner than > they did in the 60's," William Clay Ford Jr., chairman and chief > executive of the Ford Motor Company, said in a speech last month. > > Even so, environmentalists say the air would be far cleaner were it > not for the growing popularity of large vehicles. A recent study by > one group, the Union of Concerned Scientists, showed that the average > light truck - a category that includes sport utilities, minivans and > pickups - emits nearly 2.5 times the smog-forming pollutants of the > average car and near
RE: [biofuel] SUV question - Silk Purses out of Sows Ears
I believe an SUV is defined by the frame on which it is built. This is essentially a truck frame. Being classified as a truck, the SUV also qualifies for a tax deduction that was originally meant for famers and jobbers needing a big vehicle to make a living. Rest assured, the auto makers want this to continue as incentive to buyers. The SUV as it has come to be known is a very profitable beast for the automakers. If you have ever seen one in a salvage yard you might notice what vaccuous pieces of luxo junk they actually are - merely pounds of molded plastic and glass set an SUV apart from its ancestor the truck. The bottom line for the auto maker is that they make scads of cash on the sale of these monsters - they took a truck and gussied it up. Even though government mandates on anything goes against my grain, as long as the government takes money out of my wallet for emission tests on my little car, I will always oppose promotion of the SUV. Also, one might be wise to realize that politicians who did not vote in support of or actively pursue an increase in the C.A.F.E. ( Corporate Average Fuel Economy ) standards can not be trusted with anything at all - period. Who in their right mind and with good consious can allow the production of 8mpg vehicles. Notice who of your state representatives did not do their job and let them know. Isn't it amazing that in these days of science and wonder that they make a car that gets 8 mpg? Even more amazing are the atitudes of the people who drive them. Do a little sociology game and make some observations about the people you see or know who drive SUVs. How about them "No War for Oil" stickers on the back of a Lincoln Navigator? Heh who are they kidding, how much prozac does it take to be blind of the reality that we are hostage to foreign energy sources? These bonds are our own doing. We as individuals will make our own freedom. Mark --- harley3 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My question is how did a work pickup truck become a Sports Utility vehicle > (SUV)?. I am missing that some how. I grew up on a farm, and we always > had a truck. We where not part of the upper class. I must admit once we > got our first 4 wheel drive, we never went back to 2 wheel drive. The > mileage was never the best, but we worked the heck out of them. Either > plowing snow or hauling something.Also the work vans and trucks used by > service people, are they also being considered SUV's?Who made the > decision of what constituted a SUV? Mater of fact what does constitutes a > SUV, and why? > > Confused in Wisconsin > > Harley > > > -Original Message- > From: Keith Addison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 12:49 PM > To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com > Cc: biofuels-biz@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [biofuel] Automakers Oppose Increased Fuel Efficiency > > > http://ens-news.com/ens/feb2003/2003-02-19-09.asp > > Automakers Oppose Increased Fuel Efficiency > WASHINGTON, DC, February 19, 2003 (ENS) - American automakers say > meeting a new higher fuel efficiency standard for light trucks, as > proposed by the Bush administration, would carry a prohibitive cost. > > The three largest U.S. automakers - General Motors Corporation, Ford > Motor Company and DaimlerChrysler AG - have filed papers with the > National Highway Traffic Safety Administration arguing that a > proposal to increase fuel economy standards for light trucks by 1.5 > miles per gallon could cost the companies billions of dollars. > > To meet the new standards, automakers might need to make trucks > lighter, which would make them less safe, the companies said. > > Last December, the NHTSA proposed to mandate the small increase in > the fuel efficiency of light trucks and sport utility vehicles (SUVs) > between model years 2005-2007, boosting economy from a fleet average > of 20.7 miles per gallon (mpg) to 22.2 mpg. The light truck standard > has remained at 20.7 mpg since 1996, and the standard for cars has > been held at 27.5 miles per gallon. > > Critics of the proposal say it shortchanges American consumers and > national security because automakers already have the technology to > raise fuel economy much more. > > The Union of Concerned Scientists (UCS) said an analysis of the > proposal shows that what the administration is proposing is less > aggressive than what the automakers have said they would do > voluntarily by 2005. > > In 2000, Ford Motor Co. committed to improving the fuel economy of > its fleet of SUVs by 25 percent over five years. Assuming Ford made > no improvements to its other light trucks, its commitment would yield > a 1.8 mpg increase for its light truck category by 2005. > > By contrast, the administration's proposal would give the automaker > two more years to improve its light trucks by 1.5 mpg. > > But Ford joined GM and DaimlerChrysler on Friday in sayi
Re: [biofuel] Re: Retrieving the gold... Engine Oil Pumps
Mark, Yup, the old and practically free oil pump out of virtually any motor should do a good job. Mine is of unknown origin found in the corner of my friends scrap heap. When opened, the rotors showed plenty of wear. However, for the purposes of pumping random amounts of waste oil it seems to do the trick. I had to put a series resistance on the little 12 volt driving motor - some WWII surplus item acquired at a ham radio swap meet. The initial head was a bit too much and had to be reduced to manageable levels, hence the series rheostat. Problem with a rheostat is that being a big resistor it gets quite warm. A better trick I might try is building a little pulse width modulator to control the motor speed - most likely overkill. The pump is mounted to a flange that is brazed to the end of a piece of 1/2" water pipe that is 3ft.long. The drive shaft is a piece of threaded stock that (as you already knew!) is ground to a hexagon to fit in the pump. The other end connects to the motor with a stout piece of rubber tube to couple the shaft to the motor. Two hose clamps secure the rubber hose coupler. The motor is mounted at the top end of the shaft. Fiddly bits of scrap were used to cobble up a mount for the motor leaving a space so that the coupler can be serviced. The output if the pump is coupled to another cobbled up manifold that bolts to the pump but then converts to hose and then to a piece of copper water pipe strapped to the drive line pipe. I have not tried this with real nasty oil that has real big particulate in it. One thing I did notice is that as the screen on the bottom of the pickup gets clogged, the current the unit draws goes down - the pump is working less so less current. "Normal" current is about 8 amps. But of course the sound of the pump and the sheer fact that it is not putting much out is a pretty sure indicator that something is amiss. Yours, Mark I think I'll keep the screen l_mark_fire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Pumping coldish WVo with a dc pump is one of the most complicated > things I've found about this process. I just gave up and I use > something plastic as a pitcher to scoop the stuff. more recently I've > taken to using a 4 gallon bucket to do it (and have a bigger bucket > to then put the dirty bucket into so as not to get oil all over my > vehicle). > > here's what doens't work too well: > the 12V pumps that SVOers commonly use are the 12V, $70 transfer > pumps from Northern Tool (also sold by Greasel and greasecar and > others I believe). These things come with a fuse- so you'd think, > why, I can't burn up this pump, the fuse will blow. But I know many, > many people (oh, about 5) who have cooked the wiring of these things > while the fuse sits there and does nothing (other than letting loads > of electricity flow right on through where it makes a smoky mess of > the other wiring). Northern can't even tell you much about these- > they're made in China somewhere and northern.. well, never mind. Just > don't try and get customer service from places like that. > > anyway if you are using really nice oil that's liquid they're > probably OK-ish, but I don't recommend them. (and in Arizona you > won't have too much trouble with the liquid part like 70% of the year > due to the temperatures) > > I have heard but did not experience myself that the cheap Simer Blue > 12V utility pumps (thats the Pudl-Scooper deal from some Ace Hardware > stores) can work OK but knowing Simer's reputation I wonder about > this- they're cheap, and they're lightweight-looking. > > I'm experimenting with a 12V macerator toilet pump from a boat marine > toilet, but it's not continuous-duty rated and I'm still > experimenting... and some expensive bilge pumps would probably work > too but I haven't tried it yet. > > anyway, that brings me to > > AC! > > There's much more of a choice in AC pumps- the motors are much > heavier-duty, plus you have more of a choice in what's available. > > I use a Grainger (Teel brand actually) 'fryer filter' pump (a gear > pump with an huge heavy 8-amp motor) that's been pretty bulletproof > (we used it at the biodiesel coop for a year and it hasn't broken yet > despite serious abuse). it's pricey- $220, and it's heavy, but it's > designed for moving hot WVO around. If you can get an arrangement > with the restaurant to let you run an extension cord to the oil > dumpster, an ac pump is the way to go. If you want to use an inverter > I've found that many pumps are a pretty big draw... > > Remember that all pumps push better than they 'suck'- so use a short > hose on the intake end and a long one on the outgoing end. > > A foot valve is a good addition to a cheap non-self-priming pump. It > is a check valve with a strainer. > > But scooping the stuff works OK if you're not a completely messy > person. > > Also drill-driven pumps are sometimes sug
RE: [biofuel] Solar powered air conditioning & Stirling Motors
Hey, I am just waiting to see any "real" stirling motors that can do any appreciable amount of work and are available for purchase. Little kits that power fans from hot cups of coffee are great for the Captain Kangaroo bunch. But are there any real motors on the order of 5 bhp that arer available for purchase? Sun Power in Athens, Oh ( http://sunpower.com/enthusiast/index.html) is supposed be to be some kind of Sterling mecca, but they are probably so tired of being inundated with basement tinkerers like myself, that they don't want to share much information. Also I believe their specialty now is the "CryoCooler" - a novel artifact of the sterling motor - it becomes a refrigirator if you run power in to it. Reverse the power input and the same end turns very hot. So the stirling motor can function as a heat pump. Todd have you ever chatted with those folks there at SunPower? There is a group on Yahoo called SESUSA (http://www.sesusa.org) . Good info there but I have not seen any "real" workable engines that would be considered a powerplant that is available to a regular joe. Still pretty exotic yet. Yours, Mark --- kirk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Still waiting to see a Stirling that is as efficient as other cycles across > the same delta T. > > Kirk > > __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> New Yahoo! Mail Plus. More flexibility. More control. More power. Get POP access, more storage, more filters, and more. http://us.click.yahoo.com/Hcb0iA/P.iFAA/46VHAA/FGYolB/TM -~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Solar powered air conditioning & Stirling Motors
I want one!! --- Appal Energy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Sun Power in Athens, Oh ( http://sunpower.com/enthusiast/index.html) is > > supposed be to be some kind of Sterling mecca, but they are probably so > tired > > of being inundated with basement tinkerers like myself, that they don't > want to > > share much information. Also I believe their specialty now is the > "CryoCooler" > > - a novel artifact of the sterling motor - it becomes a refrigirator if > you run > > power in to it. Reverse the power input and the same end turns very hot. > So the > > stirling motor can function as a heat pump. Todd have you ever chatted > with > > those folks there at SunPower? > > I've seen their 1kW gennie in operation. It runs on biomass - wood chips, > cobs and the like. Slick as a whistle, with their magnetically "suspended" > piston. Sets into motion the imagery a bit like an overglorified pellet > stove, coupled with the Stirling engine and a generator, all wrapped up in a > portable and aesthetic package about the size of a 1-5 kW gasoline gennie. > > It's a great little unit, especially if the waste heat were coupled into a > water or residence heating system. Just a bit on the pricey side though, as > the few units made have been cast and prepared individually. It's going to > take a seriously interested manufacturer to get the price down to the "Home > Depot" (that's "consumer warehouse") level. > > Todd Swearingen > > __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> New Yahoo! Mail Plus. More flexibility. More control. More power. Get POP access, more storage, more filters, and more. http://us.click.yahoo.com/Hcb0iA/P.iFAA/46VHAA/FGYolB/TM -~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] SUV question - Silk Purses out of Sows Ears
Hah! --- "Domenick V. Amato" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What is luxo junk to one is comfort and safety to another. The general > public votes with its pocket book for SUVs and pickup trucks. Fifty million > Americans can't be politically incorrect. > > Dom Amato > > ----- Original Message - > From: "Mark Foltarz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 11:19 PM > Subject: RE: [biofuel] SUV question - Silk Purses out of Sows Ears > > > > > > I believe an SUV is defined by the frame on which it is built. This is > > essentially a truck frame. Being classified as a truck, the SUV also > qualifies > > for a tax deduction that was originally meant for famers and jobbers > needing a > > big vehicle to make a living. Rest assured, the auto makers want this to > > continue as incentive to buyers. > > > > The SUV as it has come to be known is a very profitable beast for the > > automakers. If you have ever seen one in a salvage yard you might notice > what > > vaccuous pieces of luxo junk they actually are - merely pounds of molded > > plastic and glass set an SUV apart from its ancestor the truck. > > > > The bottom line for the auto maker is that they make scads of cash on the > sale > > of these monsters - they took a truck and gussied it up. > > > > Even though government mandates on anything goes against my grain, as long > as > > the government takes money out of my wallet for emission tests on my > little > > car, I will always oppose promotion of the SUV. > > > > Also, one might be wise to realize that politicians who did not vote in > support > > of or actively pursue an increase in the C.A.F.E. ( Corporate Average > Fuel > > Economy ) standards can not be trusted with anything at all - period. Who > in > > their right mind and with good consious can allow the production of 8mpg > > vehicles. Notice who of your state representatives did not do their job > and let > > them know. > > > > Isn't it amazing that in these days of science and wonder that they make a > car > > that gets 8 mpg? Even more amazing are the atitudes of the people who > drive > > them. Do a little sociology game and make some observations about the > people > > you see or know who drive SUVs. > > > > How about them "No War for Oil" stickers on the back of a Lincoln > Navigator? > > Heh who are they kidding, how much prozac does it take to be blind of the > > reality that we are hostage to foreign energy sources? These bonds are our > own > > doing. We as individuals will make our own freedom. > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > > > --- harley3 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > My question is how did a work pickup truck become a Sports Utility > vehicle > > > (SUV)?. I am missing that some how. I grew up on a farm, and we > always > > > had a truck. We where not part of the upper class. I must admit once > we > > > got our first 4 wheel drive, we never went back to 2 wheel drive. The > > > mileage was never the best, but we worked the heck out of them. Either > > > plowing snow or hauling something.Also the work vans and trucks used > by > > > service people, are they also being considered SUV's?Who made the > > > decision of what constituted a SUV? Mater of fact what does constitutes > a > > > SUV, and why? > > > > > > Confused in Wisconsin > > > > > > Harley > > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: Keith Addison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 12:49 PM > > > To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com > > > Cc: biofuels-biz@yahoogroups.com > > > Subject: [biofuel] Automakers Oppose Increased Fuel Efficiency > > > > > > > > > http://ens-news.com/ens/feb2003/2003-02-19-09.asp > > > > > > Automakers Oppose Increased Fuel Efficiency > > > WASHINGTON, DC, February 19, 2003 (ENS) - American automakers say > > > meeting a new higher fuel efficiency standard for light trucks, as > > > proposed by the Bush administration, would carry a prohibitive cost. > > > > > > The three largest U.S. automakers - General Motors Corporation, Ford > > > Motor Company and DaimlerChrysler AG - have filed papers with the > > > National Highway Traffic Safety Administration arguing that a > > > proposal to increase fuel economy standards
RE: [biofuel] Solar powered air conditioning & Stirling Motors
Very Cool! I wrote them requesting availability of various equipment - lets see what happens. Mark --- Kris Book <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mark, > > You can stop waiting. > http://www.stirlingenergy.com/default.asp > > kris > > > --- Mark Foltarz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hey, > > > > I am just waiting to see any "real" stirling motors that > > can do any > > appreciable amount of work and are available for > > purchase. Little kits that > > power fans from hot cups of coffee are great for the > > Captain Kangaroo bunch. > > But are there any real motors on the order of 5 bhp that > > arer available for > > purchase? > > > > Sun Power in Athens, Oh ( > > http://sunpower.com/enthusiast/index.html) is > > supposed be to be some kind of Sterling mecca, but they > > are probably so tired > > of being inundated with basement tinkerers like myself, > > that they don't want to > > share much information. Also I believe their specialty > > now is the "CryoCooler" > > - a novel artifact of the sterling motor - it becomes a > > refrigirator if you run > > power in to it. Reverse the power input and the same end > > turns very hot. So the > > stirling motor can function as a heat pump. Todd have > > you ever chatted with > > those folks there at SunPower? > > > > There is a group on Yahoo called SESUSA > > (http://www.sesusa.org) . Good info > > there but I have not seen any "real" workable engines > > that would be considered > > a powerplant that is available to a regular joe. Still > > pretty exotic yet. > > > > Yours, > > > > Mark > > > > > > --- kirk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Still waiting to see a Stirling that is as efficient as > > other cycles across > > > the same delta T. > > > > > > Kirk > > > > > > > > > > __ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more > > http://taxes.yahoo.com/ > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > > > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > > > Biofuels list archives: > > http://archive.nnytech.net/ > > > > Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list > > address. > > To unsubscribe, send an email to: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > > __ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more > http://taxes.yahoo.com/ > __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> New Yahoo! Mail Plus. More flexibility. More control. More power. Get POP access, more storage, more filters, and more. http://us.click.yahoo.com/Hcb0iA/P.iFAA/46VHAA/FGYolB/TM -~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Re: Measuring Lye - Cheap Scales
Unless I made a wrong turn on a calculation, it looks as if water weighs 1.0233 gms / CC. Yes, thats absolutely pure deionized water. Suppose you made a balance with two graduated containers and a balance beam. Something about coat hangers and Wal Mart kitchen supplies come to mind. You could then add a specific amount of water to one container for a specific weight. Than add the lye to the other container until the system comes back into balance. Similarly, you could borrow a scale to calibrate your own little weights - 1gm, 10gm, 50gm etc. Make a few of each. These could be used in place of liquid water. ~~ Nahh just save up some bread and buy a digital designer scale at the William Sonoma. Just kidding! Yikes! ~~ Mark --- "girl_mark_fire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I wouldn 't recommend determining weight from volume. I also have > bought cheaper scales than that. Ebay is one resource. It sometimes > takes some looking to find them- search under gram balance or triple > balance beam as well as scale there... > flea markets sometimes have stuff like this too. So do pawn shops. > mark > > > > --- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, Dan Ross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Is there a way to determine the weight of lye without > > a scale. The cheapest scale I could find on Edmund > > Scientific was 100 bucks. Is there a general > > conversion that is pretty acurate? Thanks. > > > > Dan > > > > __ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more > > http://taxes.yahoo.com/ > > __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Solar powered air conditioning that really works with temps as low as 80C (176F)
Curtis, Yes, the modern stirling engines use pressurized cases filled with helium. Anything to eeek out a little more thermal efficiency. Hmmm, I suppose hydrogen could be used. oh the humanity! more fun: http://users.moscow.com/oiseming/lc_ant_p/lnk_stir.htm Mark --- csakima <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If I recall, most of the Sterlings I hear about use a working gas of > Helium. > > Curtis > > Get your free newsletter at > http://www.ezinfocenter.com/3122155/NL > > > - Original Message - > From: Hakan Falk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > James, > > If you can show me how the sterling will run from 80 degree Celsius solar > heated warm water, I think we have an absolute winner. If then the > compressor would work with a gas that is not dangerous or contribute to > Global warming. A fantastic solution that definitely have my support. > > > __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] Silk Purses out of Sows Ears - Kill this thread!
>I know that cars are (unfortunately) part of the >american persona and american psyche. And the >American dream and the american myth. True! But some other things, really excellent things are also part of the "American myth." Self reliance, ingenuity and that ever pervasive "can do" spirit. At least these were attributes that helped make this country great in the last century. It's still everywhere. It's just not glamorous. It never will be. Its really neat when you can tap into those things without distraction from "social norms" pupmed in via the media. Lord give me the strength to shoot my television! Mark __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] Tanks Alot!
Todd, Holy smokes did I find some killer tanks today. These things are completely enclosed stainless steel rectangular tanks. They have to be at least 600 gallons. Totally suited for methanol reclamaition - there is a hatch on top and a few fittings. Easily modifiable to add heat - or heck just build a fire underneath! Slight slope to drain on the the side. $600 wait a month and they will be $300 Mark __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [biofuel] SUV question - Silk Purses out of Sows Ears
Wow! Any German or Russian metal? Hey, fire them all up and it could be like Kirsk summer of '43! Mark --- harley3 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hakan: > > Off subject. sorry, but 20 miles south of where I live. There is a > gentlemen that collects and rents out US tanks, and APC. Old Sherman's to > newer M-60s. All the guns are spiked and welded. I hear they are not > cheap to rent but he has a open field that you can take one out and play. > > Harley > -Original Message- > From: Hakan Falk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 2:12 PM > To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [biofuel] SUV question - Silk Purses out of Sows Ears > > > > Greg, > > Absolutely and I envy you. > > Being in the signal corps the limit for me was bandwagon truck (wheel in > front) and other larger/smaller vehicles with wheels. I started as > communication specialist with Morse, codification and that stuff, but > after > a transfer the slots for this in the new place was filled. Since I had > professional licence for Taxi, Buses and Trucks (financed my studies that > way), I did some time on transportation support, when waiting for > assignment. Finally I ended up as group leader for quality testing of > electronic equipment/material deliveries. I would have loved to try or > learn to drive a tank -:). > > Hakan > > > At 10:42 AM 2/27/2003 -0700, you wrote: > > >- Original Message - > >From: "Hakan Falk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: > >Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 01:21 > >Subject: Re: [biofuel] SUV question - Silk Purses out of Sows Ears > > > > > > > > > >I'm sure that being able to drive a 62 ton M-1 Abrems, qualifies me to > drive > >a 1 1/2 ton SUV. :-P > > > >Greg H. > > > > > > > > > > > 2. That it is ensured that people who drives them have the > > > necessary special knowledge to do so, by demanding that > > > they have a truck license or similar. > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > ADVERTISEMENT > > > > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > Biofuels list archives: > http://archive.nnytech.net/ > > Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. > To unsubscribe, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [biofuel] Tanks Alot!
Doug, Good question. I will definately try to find out exactly what was in them. Hope it wasn't something to icky! Mark --- Doug Allbright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > what were these tanks used for ? > > > -Original Message----- > From: Mark Foltarz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 10:10 PM > To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [biofuel] Tanks Alot! > > > Todd, > > Holy smokes did I find some killer tanks today. > > These things are completely enclosed stainless steel rectangular tanks. > > They have to be at least 600 gallons. Totally suited for methanol > reclamaition - there is a hatch on top and a few fittings. > > Easily modifiable to add heat - or heck just build a fire underneath! > > Slight slope to drain on the the side. > > $600 wait a month and they will be $300 > > Mark > > __ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more > http://taxes.yahoo.com/ > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > > ADVERTISEMENT > > <http://rd.yahoo.com/M=246920.2960106.4328965.2848452/D=egroupweb/S=1705083269:HM/A=1464858/R=0/*http://www.gotomypc.com/u/tr/yh/cpm/grp/300_Cquo_1/g22lp?Target=mm/g22lp.tmpl> > > > <http://us.adserver.yahoo.com/l?M=246920.2960106.4328965.2848452/D=egroupmail/S=:HM/A=1464858/rand=556102477> > > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > Biofuels list archives: > http://archive.nnytech.net/ > > Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. > To unsubscribe, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service > <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> . > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> New Yahoo! Mail Plus. More flexibility. More control. More power. Get POP access, more storage, more filters, and more. http://us.click.yahoo.com/Hcb0iA/P.iFAA/46VHAA/FGYolB/TM -~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] Looking for tests to indicate quality of Methanol
Group, I am looking for methods of analysis to indicate the water content of Methanol. I would like to do this in the "field" as it were. I have found several methods of detecting the occurence of Methyl Alcohol in Ethyl. So these tests are aimed at the foddstuffs industry rather than the quality of Methanol as being technical grade - the all desireable 98.5%. The only contaminants I will be looking for is Ethanol and Water. I don't believe there will be any other organic contaminants Specific gravity Methyl is 0.7924 Water is 1. Ethanol is 0.816 Fractional distallation Boiling Point of Methanol is 115 C Water is of course 100 C Ethanol is 78 C Any other ideas? Mark __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> Rent DVDs Online-No late fees! Try Netflix for FREE! http://us.click.yahoo.com/bbvVKB/oEZFAA/46VHAA/FGYolB/TM -~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Fw: [Audi-VW-Diesels] FW: Thiellert diesel aircraft engines
Neat stuff! I saw aircraft at Oshkosh that used the venerable 1.6L VW diesel. I believe Packard tried - albeit unsuccessfully - to market a diesel radial motor (?!) back in the 1930's Mark --- Steve Spence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > biodiesel/veggie oil aircraft anyone? > > Steve Spence > Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter > & Discussion Boards. Read about Sustainable Technology: > http://www.green-trust.org > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - Original Message - > From: "James Hansen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Audi-VW-Diesels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Vwdiesel" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 4:25 PM > Subject: [Audi-VW-Diesels] FW: Thiellert diesel aircraft engines > > > > Here's the latest from the diesel aircraft engine front. > > -James > > > > > > > > > > == > > T A E - I N F O M A I L N o. 0 2 / 2 0 0 3 > > from 03 March 2003 > > Best legibility Courier New font face > > == > > > > Dear Sir or Madam, > > > > having announced further information in our last infomail we would > > like to provide them now: > > > > 1. Series kick-off retrofit kits for Cessna 172 / First customer > >aircraft shipped in march > > > > 2. Status of Piper PA 28 STC > > > > We hope to provide you helpful information and we are pleased > > about your interest. > > > > Yours faithfully, > > > > Thielert Aircraft Engines GmbH > > > > -- > > > > 1. SERIES KICK-OFF RETROFIT KITS FOR CESSNA 172 / FIRST CUSTOMER > >AIRCRAFT SHIPPED IN MARCH > > > > At present, we are producing our CENTURION 1.7 jet fuel aircraft > > engines and the installation parts for the Cessna 172. The delivery > > times for the Cessna 172 retrofit installation parts have been > > postponed. The reason for this being quality and supply bottlenecks on > > the part of our suppliers. We are currently providing our suppliers > > with significant levels of support in the transition to series > > production, which in turn has produced the knock-on effect that our > > internal resources cannot be used for the development of further > > retrofit kits. Due to the limited capacities, we shall not be > > extending our range of certified retrofit kits until after the > > completion of this Cessna 172 series kick-off. The first customer > > aircraft successfully completed their ground roll tests and are due to > > be shipped to their owners before the end of March. > > > > * Retrofit-Kits for 172N, F172N, 172P, F172P > > > > -- > > > > 2. STATUS OF PIPER PA 28 STC > > > > The issuing of the supplemental type certification (STC) for the Piper > > PA 28 has been postponed. We anticipate that the STC will be issued by > > mid-April at AERO 2003 in Friedrichshafen, Germany. Regular deliveries > > of the retrofit kit for the Piper PA 28 will be available in August > > from our sales partners. By this point in time, we will have also > > defined the retrofit kit for the PA 28-161 Cadet, meaning that two > > types will be available from August. > > > > > > > > _THIELERT AIRCRAFT ENGINES GMBH___ > > > > Platanenstrasse 14 > > 09350 Lichtenstein > > Germany > > > > Fon: +49 37204 6960 > > Fax: +49 37204 69650 > > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://www.tae-engines.com > > > > > > _CENTURION - JET A-ENGINES FOR GA BUILT BY TAE > > > > http://www.centurion-engines.com > > __ > > > > --- > > Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > Version: 6.0.459 / Virus Database: 258 - Release Date: 2/25/2003 > > > > --- > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > Version: 6.0.459 / Virus Database: 258 - Release Date: 2/25/2003 > > > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > > > __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~--> New Yahoo! Mail Plus. More flexibility. More control. More power. Get POP access, more storage, more filters, and more. http://us.click.yahoo.com/Hcb0iA/P.iFAA/46VHAA/FGYolB/TM -~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is s
