Re: [Biofuel] Constant Gardener; The best film in years, exposes western crimes in africa
Hello Joe Thanks, but... Hi Keith; If you thought that was a film worth seeing I didn't see it. you should also check out the film Darwin's Nightmare which documents the story of the introduction of the Nile Perch to Lake Victoria and how remote slavery works for europeans while they enjoy cheap fish and try not to know about how weapons trickle in to Africa in the bargain. Not exactly a trickle. The main flood seems to have shifted to Southeast Asia now, but there's plenty left for Africa's needs. In short supply for some apparently: http://news.independent.co.uk/world/americas/article314944.ece Independent Online Edition Americas US forced to import bullets from Israel as troops use 250,000 for every rebel killed By Andrew Buncombe in Washington Published: 25 September 2005 The mind boggles. Bullets can't stop it, rockets can't stop it, we might have to use NUKULAR FORZ! Aarghh! This is how our leaders and their institutions see the priorities, as opposed to how people and their communities see them: 1998 Global priorities in spending in 1998 Global Priority $U.S. Billions Basic education for everyone in the world 6 Cosmetics in the United States 8 Water and sanitation for everyone in the world 9 Ice cream in Europe 11 Reproductive health for all women in the world 12 Perfumes in Europe and the United States12 Basic health and nutrition for everyone in the world13 Pet foods in Europe and the United States 17 Business entertainmentin Japan 35 Cigarettes in Europe50 Alcoholic drinks in Europe 105 Narcotics drugs in the world400 Military spending in the world 780 Number of children in the world 2.2 billion Number in poverty 1 billion (every second child) http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg51848.html [Biofuel] Inequality in wealth Inequality in wealth: Just 0.13% of the world population controlled nearly 25% of world financial assets in 2004 :-( Dinosaurs. Mammoths. How to kill a mammoth: http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg30628.html [biofuel] Mammoth corporations In a parallel thread the human flesh trade is exposed and how the catholic church turns a blind eye and encourages the spread of HIV. A hard film to watch but again one everyone should see. Joe Keith Addison wrote: I didn't, Thomas Mountain did. I have not seen the film and have not commented on it. I posted a news item on a similar subject, that's all. PLEASE be more careful in attributing posts to those who posted them! Thanks Keith My wife and I saw the film Constant Gardener last night and would highly recommend it to all citizens of the world. The film, starring Ralph Fiennes, is based on the Le Carre book of the same name, and is about how the western drug companies use Africa as a testing ground for their experimental drugs, and cause death and suffering in the process when toxic side effects to their imperfect formulas start killing people. The best part of the whole film is that it showed just how ruthless and murderous the drug companies were in protecting their multi million dollar investments and didnt try to have a happy ending. The film showed how the highest levels of western government know of these crimes and are complicit in the cover up. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Constant Gardener; The best film in years, exposes western crimes in africa
Sorry about the confusion Keith and Thomas; I don't know how I did that because I remember checking before I typed my message to try to be sure who posted the comment on the movie. Since I have seen the admonishment from you a few times and recieved one myself I guess that is a sore point with you. I do try to be careful in replies to attribute snips to the right person but obviously I missed something despite my effort! Anyways I wanted to recommend the movie Darwin's Nightmare not only to Thomas Mountain but to the membership at large. Movies like hold the promise of changing things in this world if they could reach a broad audience. The problem is many do not want to hear about it. Obviously discussing it on this forum is like preaching to the choir but I thought I would put it out there in case anyone had not heard of the film. I guess my message achieved that aim despite my mis-reference. Joe Keith Addison wrote: Hello Joe Thanks, but... Hi Keith; If you thought that was a film worth seeing I didn't see it. you should also check out the film Darwin's Nightmare which documents the story of the introduction of the Nile Perch to Lake Victoria and how remote slavery works for europeans while they enjoy cheap fish and try not to know about how weapons trickle in to Africa in the bargain. Not exactly a trickle. The main flood seems to have shifted to Southeast Asia now, but there's plenty left for Africa's "needs". In short supply for some apparently: http://news.independent.co.uk/world/americas/article314944.ece Independent Online Edition Americas US forced to import bullets from Israel as troops use 250,000 for every rebel killed By Andrew Buncombe in Washington Published: 25 September 2005 The mind boggles. "Bullets can't stop it, rockets can't stop it, we might have to use NUKULAR FORZ!" Aarghh! This is how our leaders and their institutions see the priorities, as opposed to how people and their communities see them: 1998 Global priorities in spending in 1998 Global Priority $U.S. Billions Basic education for everyone in the world 6 Cosmetics in the United States 8 Water and sanitation for everyone in the world 9 Ice cream in Europe 11 Reproductive health for all women in the world 12 Perfumes in Europe and the United States 12 Basic health and nutrition for everyone in the world 13 Pet foods in Europe and the United States 17 Business entertainmentin Japan 35 Cigarettes in Europe 50 Alcoholic drinks in Europe 105 Narcotics drugs in the world 400 Military spending in the world 780 Number of children in the world 2.2 billion Number in poverty 1 billion (every second child) http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg51848.html [Biofuel] Inequality in wealth Inequality in wealth: Just 0.13% of the world population controlled nearly 25% of world financial assets in 2004 :-( Dinosaurs. Mammoths. How to kill a mammoth: http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg30628.html [biofuel] Mammoth corporations In a parallel thread the human flesh trade is exposed and how the catholic church turns a blind eye and encourages the spread of HIV. A hard film to watch but again one everyone should see. Joe Keith Addison wrote: I didn't, Thomas Mountain did. I have not seen the film and have not commented on it. I posted a news item on a similar subject, that's all. PLEASE be more careful in attributing posts to those who posted them! Thanks Keith My wife and I saw the film Constant Gardener last night and would highly recommend it to all citizens of the world. The film, starring Ralph Fiennes, is based on the Le Carre book of the same name, and is about how the western drug companies use Africa as a testing ground for their experimental drugs, and cause death and suffering in the process when toxic side effects to their imperfect formulas start killing people. The best part of the whole film is that it showed just how ruthless and murderous the drug companies were in protecting their multi million dollar investments and didnt try to have a happy ending. The film showed how the highest levels of western government know of these crimes and are complicit in the cover up. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and
Re: [Biofuel] Constant Gardener; The best film in years, exposes western crimes in africa
NGO's, the UN, and especially the western aid agencies are all out to keep Africa and the African people in submission to the western interests, and one cant but help see this in the film. In general, I agree, however not all NGO's are out to do this. I worked for Engineers Without Borders, which focuses on village level design of small infrastructure projects, and stresses appropriate technology that is designed in consulation with the people who will use it, and training the local people to extend the technology to neighboring areas themselves. Of course, we cannot get any funding from USAID, etc, because #1) our average project costs $20,000, which lacks about two decimal places for qualifying for aid agencies to even look at it, and #2) this approach which treats each village as a unique situation instead of doing a cookie cutter, one size fits no one approach, has much higher administrative and overhead costs, and looks bad on the books. And we also have to constantly fight people who have either the arrogant engineer mentality (lets save the poor africans with our great technology), or the christian evangelist mentality (lets save the poor africans with our great religion). ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Constant Gardener; The best film in years, exposes western crimes in africa
My wife and I saw the film Constant Gardener last night and would highly recommend it to all citizens of the world. The film, starring Ralph Fiennes, is based on the Le Carre book of the same name, and is about how the western drug companies use Africa as a testing ground for their experimental drugs, and cause death and suffering in the process when toxic side effects to their imperfect formulas start killing people. The best part of the whole film is that it showed just how ruthless and murderous the drug companies were in protecting their multi million dollar investments and didnt try to have a happy ending. The film showed how the highest levels of western government know of these crimes and are complicit in the cover up. The acting is excellent, the plot complicated yet believable and the scenery, shot on location in Kenya, while including the stark and awesome beauty of Kenya, shows just how the African people are suffering, while their leaders take the white mans money and allow their people to die. After watching this film, one can only say Thank God for Shaebia! (the nickname for the Eritrean government, meaning the people in Arabic), who would never allow such crimes to be inflicted on the Eritrean people. NGO's, the UN, and especially the western aid agencies are all out to keep Africa and the African people in submission to the western interests, and one cant but help see this in the film. This film is definitely one of the best in years, actually the best I can remember. Definitely for Eri-TV to show TWICE! Selam and rain for Eritrea, Thomas C. Mountain http://www.commondreams.org/headlines05/0911-05.htm Published on Sunday, September 11, 2005 by the Observer/UK Diseases of Rich Deprive Poor of Drugs by Anushka Asthana The world's poorest people are being denied access to drugs because pharmaceutical companies are focusing their resources on diseases suffered by wealthy, middle-aged Americans, such as obesity and heart disease, a leading expert will say tomorrow. Dr David Rhodes, the Health Protection Agency's (HPA) head of business development, will claim that spiraling costs are driving firms to invest primarily in drugs that tackle diseases of 'older Americans'. As a result, the international market has been flooded with medicines to treat 'American diseases' such as high blood pressure, obesity, heart disease and cancer, while drugs to tackle tuberculosis, malaria and water-borne diseases prevalent in the poorest countries have been neglected. Presenting his research at the HPA's annual conference tomorrow, Rhodes will show that more and more pharmaceutical companies are moving their headquarters to the US in search of profits. Once there, they pump money into treatments that help the local population to live longer. 'Drugs and vaccines are becoming phenomenally expensive to develop,' said Rhodes. 'Companies have to recoup their investments by selling the drugs and vaccines. To be economic, they need a large population and the price has to be high. That increasingly means that drugs are developed for older Americans, who are getting healthier and living longer.' Costs are soaring, added Rhodes, because of extensive safety and efficacy testing and the fact that many drugs that show 'early promise' never make it through the checks. As such, companies looking to be 'economic' shift resources to meet the needs - and benefit from the profits - of the biggest spenders. 'The US tend to get the first bite of the cherry,' admitted Rhodes. He said the trend had led to a 'vicious' circle in the poorest countries of 'low economic growth leading to poor healthcare systems, creating a higher burden of disease which in turn affects the ability of the population to develop economically'. But while sub-Saharan Africa is heavily affected, China and India's strong investment in their pharmaceutical industry has seen health improvements and economic bonuses that will in turn attract investment back. Nevertheless, with many private companies turning their back on the developing world, Rhodes said research was heavily dependent on philanthropic funding and government backing. He welcomed the International Finance Facility for Immunization - the funding arm of the Global Alliance for Vaccines and Immunization - that was launched on Friday. The group has pledged to raise $4 billion (£2.2bn) for an immunization program in the developing world. © Guardian Newspapers Limited 2005 ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Constant Gardener; The best film in years, exposes western crimes in africa
Hi Keith; If you thought that was a film worth seeing you should also check out the film Darwin's Nightmare which documents the story of the introduction of the Nile Perch to Lake Victoria and how remote slavery works for europeans while they enjoy cheap fish and try not to know about how weapons trickle in to Africa in the bargain. In a parallel thread the human flesh trade is exposed and how the catholic church turns a blind eye and encourages the spread of HIV. A hard film to watch but again one everyone should see. Joe Keith Addison wrote: My wife and I saw the film Constant Gardener last night and would highly recommend it to all citizens of the world. The film, starring Ralph Fiennes, is based on the Le Carre book of the same name, and is about how the western drug companies use Africa as a testing ground for their experimental drugs, and cause death and suffering in the process when toxic side effects to their imperfect formulas start killing people. The best part of the whole film is that it showed just how ruthless and murderous the drug companies were in protecting their multi million dollar investments and didnt try to have a happy ending. The film showed how the highest levels of western government know of these crimes and are complicit in the cover up. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Constant Gardener; The best film in years, exposes western crimes in africa
sounds like you should be working in Eritrea, which has kicked USAID out of the country and is very strict about NGO's From: Zeke Yewdall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 08:47:32 -0600 To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Constant Gardener; The best film in years, exposes western crimes in africa NGO's, the UN, and especially the western aid agencies are all out to keep Africa and the African people in submission to the western interests, and one cant but help see this in the film. In general, I agree, however not all NGO's are out to do this. I worked for Engineers Without Borders, which focuses on village level design of small infrastructure projects, and stresses appropriate technology that is designed in consulation with the people who will use it, and training the local people to extend the technology to neighboring areas themselves. Of course, we cannot get any funding from USAID, etc, because #1) our average project costs $20,000, which lacks about two decimal places for qualifying for aid agencies to even look at it, and #2) this approach which treats each village as a unique situation instead of doing a cookie cutter, one size fits no one approach, has much higher administrative and overhead costs, and looks bad on the books. And we also have to constantly fight people who have either the arrogant engineer mentality (lets save the poor africans with our great technology), or the christian evangelist mentality (lets save the poor africans with our great religion). ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Constant Gardener; The best film in years, exposes western crimes in africa
My wife and I saw the film Constant Gardener last night and would highly recommend it to all citizens of the world. The film, starring Ralph Fiennes, is based on the Le Carre book of the same name, and is about how the western drug companies use Africa as a testing ground for their experimental drugs, and cause death and suffering in the process when toxic side effects to their imperfect formulas start killing people. The best part of the whole film is that it showed just how ruthless and murderous the drug companies were in protecting their multi million dollar investments and didnt try to have a happy ending. The film showed how the highest levels of western government know of these crimes and are complicit in the cover up. The acting is excellent, the plot complicated yet believable and the scenery, shot on location in Kenya, while including the stark and awesome beauty of Kenya, shows just how the African people are suffering, while their leaders take the white mans money and allow their people to die. After watching this film, one can only say Thank God for Shaebia! (the nickname for the Eritrean government, meaning the people in Arabic), who would never allow such crimes to be inflicted on the Eritrean people. NGO's, the UN, and especially the western aid agencies are all out to keep Africa and the African people in submission to the western interests, and one cant but help see this in the film. This film is definitely one of the best in years, actually the best I can remember. Definitely for Eri-TV to show TWICE! Selam and rain for Eritrea, Thomas C. Mountain ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
